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DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
777
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:36:00 -
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There should probably be a final, confirmation window which appears for both parties after accept is clicked. It shows the proposed transaction, which cannot be modified. Both parties need to click accept again, or else reject. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
711
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:46:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:There should probably be a final, confirmation window which appears for both parties after accept is clicked. It shows the proposed transaction, which cannot be modified. Both parties need to click accept again, or else reject. Also known as a 'contract'. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Selinate
580
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:50:00 -
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Morganta wrote:
if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once
Confirming towards the beginning of this character's birth, I got scammed for 400 mil through a courier contract.
Haven't been scammed since if memory serves right... |

Zarcan
Liberate New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:56:00 -
[34] - Quote
I think that CCP just wants the extra $15 a month.
Oh, wait, scammers make so much ISK that they just plex.
Hmmmmm. Obviously a completely equitable situation here. |

Mekki Muvila
Petrichor Acquisitions and Industry Development Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:00:00 -
[35] - Quote
Zarcan wrote:Mekki Muvila wrote:Your Domi fit sucks anyway The Guristas disagree.
The Guristas are ********.
You combine buffer and active tanks, you use a mag stab on a ship where your DPS comes from drones.... it doesn't take much to make a Domi invincible in L4s, but it takes some intelligence to fit it properly. No wonder you're so broke for such an old player, it takes you ages to do the simplest of L4s, and its mind numbingly boring to do it. |

Zarcan
Liberate New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:05:00 -
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Mekki Muvila wrote:Zarcan wrote:Mekki Muvila wrote:Your Domi fit sucks anyway The Guristas disagree. The Guristas are ********. You combine buffer and active tanks, you use a mag stab on a ship where your DPS comes from drones.... it doesn't take much to make a Domi invincible in L4s, but it takes some intelligence to fit it properly. No wonder you're so broke for such an old player, it takes you ages to do the simplest of L4s, and its mind numbingly boring to do it.
Oh save your crap. My dominix was a great combination of HP, repair quantity and resistances along with combined rail and drone damage.
If you think I give two craps about your opinion of my ship, consider; I had enough intelligence to not allow you to scam me out of 300mil, so, kindly go hide in your corner of your basement you sociopath. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4369
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:07:00 -
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Zarcan wrote:I think that CCP just wants the extra $15 a month.
Oh, wait, scammers make so much ISK that they just plex. So CCP earns $17.50 a month from them.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Hijeri
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
65
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:09:00 -
[38] - Quote
Zarcan wrote:Mekki Muvila wrote:Your Domi fit sucks anyway The Guristas disagree.
You think being able to kill rats enables you to judge whether a fit is good or not? That's freaking hilarious coming from someone like you, who's played this game for years. I can hop into an armor drake and do L4's. Just saying. I see ratters rat with the most stupid fits every day.
You'll do good staying in high sec for the rest of your life. Have fun with your mission running, basically the most boring thing you can do in this game along with mining. This is an MMO sandbox, and then you go and voluntarily grind your ass off doing the most mundane thing, as if you're playing World of Warcraft. Hilarious. |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
189
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:10:00 -
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Zleon Leigh wrote:Another example of how scammers get off without consequences... he'll never leave the station, never have sec status where you could even put a bounty on him (even though that is a totally f'd up mechanic as well)
You know, you bring up a very good point
People always talk about EVE in terms of
"Risk vs Reward"
Where is the risk for scammer?
Can someone give a legimate reason as to why there is a risk for a scammer selling Carbon to someone who thinks its a Charon? Cause if there is no LEGITIMATE risk, this game activity needs to be put in line with all the other activities of EVE that require risk. |

Zarcan
Liberate New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:11:00 -
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Hijeri wrote:Zarcan wrote:Mekki Muvila wrote:Your Domi fit sucks anyway The Guristas disagree. You think being able to kill rats enables you to judge whether a fit is good or not? That's freaking hilarious coming from someone like you, who's played this game for years. I can hop into an armor drake and do L4's. Just saying. I see ratters rat with the most stupid fits every day. You'll do good staying in high sec, running missions all day.
Teach me your ways, wise computer game master!
Montevius Williams wrote:Zleon Leigh wrote:Another example of how scammers get off without consequences... he'll never leave the station, never have sec status where you could even put a bounty on him (even though that is a totally f'd up mechanic as well) You know, you bring up a very good point People always talk about EVE in terms of "Risk vs Reward" Where is the risk for scammer? Can someone give a legimate reason as to why there is a risk for a scammer selling Carbon to someone who thinks its a Charon? Cause if there is no LEGITIMATE risk, this game activity needs to be put in line with all the other activities of EVE that require risk.
The risk, indeed, should be CCP catching them and banning them. |

Cryten Jones
Advantage Inc The Matari Consortium
31
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:12:00 -
[41] - Quote
Sigh... There was some sympathy at the start of the thread. shame you went a ruined it really.... grow up mate, it's a game.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4369
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:14:00 -
[42] - Quote
Zarcan wrote:The risk, indeed, should be CCP catching them and banning them. For what?
Do you also propose that CCP should start catching you and banning you for shooting those Guristas?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Zarcan
Liberate New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:14:00 -
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Cryten Jones wrote:Sigh... There was some sympathy at the start of the thread. shame you went a ruined it really.... grow up mate, it's a game.
God forbid I'm a high-sec player.
Tippia wrote:Zarcan wrote:The risk, indeed, should be CCP catching them and banning them. For what? Do you also propose that CCP should start catching you and banning you for shooting those Guristas?
For what? Really? Do I have to spell out that scamming players out of ISK, which is transferable to game time, is the same thing as scamming people out of real money? A dishonest method of gameplay that CCP only endorses because it brings them more money? |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
822
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:15:00 -
[44] - Quote
Zarcan wrote:Cryten Jones wrote:Sigh... There was some sympathy at the start of the thread. shame you went a ruined it really.... grow up mate, it's a game.
I'm a high-sec player.
and that is why you fail
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4369
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:18:00 -
[45] - Quote
Zarcan wrote:For what? Really? Do I have to spell out that scamming players out of ISK, which is transferable to game time, is the same thing as scamming people out of real money? Except that it's not. Well, unless you're an ISK sellerGǪ in which case they most certainly should ban you, not the scammer.
Scamming is legitimate gameplay. Why would they ban people for playing the game? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Zarcan
Liberate New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:20:00 -
[46] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Zarcan wrote:For what? Really? Do I have to spell out that scamming players out of ISK, which is transferable to game time, is the same thing as scamming people out of real money? Except that it's not. Well, unless you're an ISK sellerGǪ in which case they most certainly should ban you, not the scammer. Scamming is legitimate gameplay. Why would they ban people for playing the game?
CCP decides what is legitimate and what isn't. If you really want to put your energy into defending scammers, all the more power to you. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4369
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:22:00 -
[47] - Quote
Zarcan wrote:CCP decides what is legitimate and what isn't. GǪand they've decided that scamming is legitimate. So you can stop with the GÇ£ban themGÇ¥ nonsense. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
189
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:24:00 -
[48] - Quote
[/quote]The risk, indeed, should be CCP catching them and banning them.[/quote]
No, scamming is legitimate gameplay mechanic. I'm more concerned about the trade window interface being buggy, and being scammed due to lag...thats just dumb. Scamming in and of itself is fine. Scams that you cant avoid becasue of bad interface design/buggy interface is wrong. Thats not a players fauly. That's CCP's fault. |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
741
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:27:00 -
[49] - Quote
Mekki Muvila wrote:Zarcan wrote:Mekki Muvila wrote:Your Domi fit sucks anyway The Guristas disagree. The Guristas are ********. You combine buffer and active tanks, you use a mag stab on a ship where your DPS comes from drones.... it doesn't take much to make a Domi invincible in L4s, but it takes some intelligence to fit it properly. No wonder you're so broke for such an old player, it takes you ages to do the simplest of L4s, and its mind numbingly boring to do it. I don't know many people who only have an armor buffer tank for missions (unless they use rr). There is nothing wrong with putting on some buffer on an active tank when doing missions. Also not all the dps comes from drones with a Domi. A Domi has 6 turrets, not just 6 highslots, why wouldn't you use them? People who use a neut domi in pvp might think that drones are the only dps.
Edit: on the main topic: Not much in the game that is as dodgy as the trade window. Never stop a contract to do a trade window with a stranger. |

Wacktopia
Noir.
142
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:29:00 -
[50] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Zarcan wrote:CCP decides what is legitimate and what isn't. GǪand they've decided that scamming is legitimate. So you can stop with the Gǣban themGǥ nonsense.
This. Scams are just another part of EVE. I know all the good scams of course and can tell anyone who wants to throw a few million my way.  . |

Zarcan
Liberate New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:31:00 -
[51] - Quote
I'm just really surprised that you all feel that way.
I guess this is another issue however, the trade window is the culprit.
If the right DEV happens to read this, the petition is filed, please get back to me. |

Cryten Jones
Advantage Inc The Matari Consortium
31
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:32:00 -
[52] - Quote
Zarcan wrote:Cryten Jones wrote:Sigh... There was some sympathy at the start of the thread. shame you went a ruined it really.... grow up mate, it's a game.
God forbid I'm a high-sec player.
Mate.. your play style is not the issue here! I spent at least half of my time in EvE in hisec. Nothing wrong with it if that's what you enjoy as...guess what... IT'S A GAME.
Seriously, if you want safe fun EvE is not for you, please understand I am not been an ass about it... just after 7+ years I can tell you this will not be the last time you loose a crap load and definitely not the last time you will feel violated by the loss.
-CJ
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gfldex
266
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:42:00 -
[53] - Quote
If believe you got hit by a bug file a bug report. If that bug is confirmed (that bug is very very old btw) you refere to it in your petition. Whining about a bug on the forum that was exploited will and always has spawn trolls. It never spawned devs. There is still hope for EVE:
"Best Regards, GM Ninjapirate" |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
826
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:45:00 -
[54] - Quote
its too easy to scam people in eve it's like they want to be scammed
try selling a few rifter fleet issues in contracts  The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Zarcan
Liberate New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:45:00 -
[55] - Quote
gfldex wrote:If believe you got hit by a bug file a bug report. If that bug is confirmed (that bug is very very old btw) you refere to it in your petition. Whining about a bug on the forum that was exploited will and always has spawn trolls. It never spawned devs.
Thank you for the reply. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1528
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:46:00 -
[56] - Quote
scams are a part of the game, as long as the scammer isn't taking advantage of a bug. deal with it. it's just another form of PvP.
what's next, do you want suicide gankers to be banned? you're hilarious |

Lord Wiggin
Furian Necromongers
23
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:56:00 -
[57] - Quote
This is Eve, Scamming is not just allowed, but even encourged in certain ways. It's unfortunate that you did get scammed, and it would be nice if CCP actually made a decent trade interface, but that is unlikely to happen anytime soon. I would have to guess that this happens to a large majority of players in this game, hopefully it doesn't ruin you, and you move on. About the only angle I could see you having on a petition is that the guy is using Jita lag as an exploit, possible, but i'm guessing a long shot without screenshots to back it up.
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Zleon Leigh
53
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Posted - 2012.01.14 01:56:00 -
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Andski wrote:scams are a part of the game, as long as the scammer isn't taking advantage of a bug. deal with it. it's just another form of PvP.
what's next, do you want suicide gankers to be banned? you're hilarious
Suicide gankers encounter risk/reward. No balance at all in scamming - it's win for them and loose on so many fronts it's almost impossible to count for us. Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
42
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Posted - 2012.01.14 02:14:00 -
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Zarcan wrote:I'm just really surprised that you all feel that way.
I guess this is another issue however, the trade window is the culprit.
If the right DEV happens to read this, the petition is filed, please get back to me.
A worthy workman never blames his tools.
Use a contract next time, and move on. Chalk it to a learning experience of something you should have learned within a month of playing, let alone 4 yrs..  |

Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
109
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Posted - 2012.01.14 02:20:00 -
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For the size of the loss I don't see why all this melodrama... |
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