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Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:07:00 - [61] Originally by: CARY Edited by: CARY on 03/09/2007 14:22:45 FACTS NOT SMACK!!! I'm not a PVP Pilot at all, I am a long time EVE player of 4 years and a Diehard Miner. So enough about little me in the Big World of EVE. FACT: RoadKill/SMASH far out Number IO. 2 Very Large Alliance again a small alliance. FACT: RK/SMASH Invaded IO Sov. FACT: RK/SMASH Intel fail them not knowing of the MAD PACT. FACT: RK/SMASH had total control of the MJ system with at lease a Fleet of 200 in local and set shop with (at lease) 2 POS of their own. FACT: MAD PACT responded with close to 200 ships into the TDP System next to MJ. FACT: RK/SMASH bubbled the TDP Gate in MJ. FACT: RK/SMASH control IO SOV and the MJ system with a Large Fleet and Large Bubbles on the gates and thinking No way the MAD PACT was going to jump into the Bubble against their Large Fleet, which again was close 200 ships as well. FACT: MAD PACT JUMPED!!!!!!!!!!!! The rest is EVE history now. FACT: RK/Smash lost 7 CAP SHIP, MAD PACT NONE!! FACT: RK/SMASH Lost countless numbers of BS. BS were popping off like fireworks on a New Year EVE sky. The Battle were very fairly even in number. RK/SMACK will not post their loses but the fact is, their loses were very high, I'm talking very high. I want to salute the commanders of the MAD PACT for their control of the Fleet and awesome Fleet Tactics, I salute you all. These are FACT I was there and saw it all. FACT: MAD PACT NOW Control MJ. IO has its Sov control. FACT: We are left with some tactical questions to RK/Smash...here are only a few and I am sure more will follow.....Why did you all have a carrier inside the bubble, a DREAD with Large guns on it, in other words battleship mods? Why did your intel fail you so badly? . That is a clear sign that you really didn't understand the will of the MAD PACT at all, Many Corps, Many Alliances, 1 PACT and we will respond and will not quit. SMACK: Anything other then the facts. SEMPER FI CARY I know ur on my side but woah! easy on the smacktalk please :\ - Gob Stealth bombers work!
CARY Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:10:00 - [62] JUST THE FACTS!! THAT ALL I POSTED.
zykerx Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:16:00 - [63] Originally by: CARY JUST THE FACTS!! THAT ALL I POSTED. nope ya diddnt btw acordint to kb it was like 150 vs 3oo and then smashkill thought ok lets warpin some caps and see what hapends and the guy got a new dread so mayby ya see a dread with large guns again . "MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:20:00 - [64] Originally by: CARY JUST THE FACTS!! THAT ALL I POSTED. FACT: SMASHKILL put the pos's in MJ- into reinforced using entirely snowball launchers.
Korah Caldari Heavy Metal Mining and Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:27:00 - [65] What a spanking for smashkill. Over last day all I hear is "please tell us who's in MAD so we never do this again". I think MAD should let smashkill live, you've proven your point, i suspect smashkill will now slowly become your pets. Korah
CARY Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:28:00 - [66] LOL we had no 300 ships man, get it straight!!... unless you gave us some of your ships and regardless you had the MAD PACT fleet all bubbled up at the gate and was made fireworks of. I'm done with this convo. MJ looks BLUE to me..FACT I promise Fact, not Smack. FACT: It was a Good Battle.... o7 SEMPER FI CARY
Thoric Frosthammer Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:34:00 - [67] Originally by: Admiral Nova Originally by: CARY JUST THE FACTS!! THAT ALL I POSTED. FACT: SMASHKILL put the pos's in MJ- into reinforced using entirely snowball launchers. They took my snowball launcher away in one of these damn revelation patches. I hate them. My precioussss is gone.
Conniving Connivier Amarr Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:39:00 - [68] Originally by: Moloc You guys have a website where people can see who the current members are ? Invictus / FREGE etc, it's fairly common knowledge I would have thought that they are members of of the MAD PACT, maybe not something that was known before you turned inwards on The GUARD guys or whoever you decided didn't belong last time. To be honest before about 2 weeks ago I'd never heard of IO at all. First thing I heard about them was, 'so there's this outpost 12 jumps away, 1 tower is offline, another is a small... there are only 6 moons etc...' Was Tre Kroner a member ? Who isn't ? If its in drone space it's probably part of MAD pact (aside of RA/Goon). Even if its blue to you. I was hearing about some alliances chaning their standings after MJ- attack to Smashkill and such. Drone space is a very friendly area, you know? =P
Grimm Tbone Caldari Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:43:00 - [69] I'm pretty new to the drone region but when i heard that someone went to war out our way and we could join in, i thought YAY! i don't have to fly 54 jumps to KOS space to shoot something! The most basic of reasons that so many drone region pilots came to their aid was that we didn't have to fly far to shoot something! we are kinda like an ant hill. from the outside we look benign enough, but stir us up and we all boil out looking for something to kill.
Marogian eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:49:00 - [70] Originally by: zykerx Originally by: CARY JUST THE FACTS!! THAT ALL I POSTED. btw acordint to kb it was like 150 vs 3oo and then smashkill thought ok lets warpin some caps and see what hapends WTB Pyschic Killboard I was there- SMASHKILL didn't warp to the gate to 'see what happens'. You had the gate bubbled and were on it with caps there, some ships in the bubble, some BSes at snipe range presumably (I'd hope) aligned and waiting for us to jump into you. SMASHKILL had every advantage. We had no caps on jump-in, ours only arrived just as the last of your carriers/dreads were going down. Also, I'd love to see a killboard that showed 300 people in the MAD gang, because...thats well entirely wrong, our gang was 200ish prior to jumping in, and the jump was optional as we expected to die horribly (as most people would expect jumping into an even numbered fleet bubbled at a gate) so I think the jump-in numbers were closer to 170 or so.

Thoric Frosthammer Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:49:00 - [71] Pretty much the only residents who aren't a part of MAD were those that resided in the 7-k region. Chaos Incarnate never was, in fact when they set up their station they claimed they were friends of yours. 7-k was never claimed by any of us, and has been largely a hole where various outfits set up for a time, then collapsed, until, as I gather, pure and smash decided to claim parts of it. GUARD was. But they became belligerant neighbors and claimed all sorts of things that weren't theirs, and tried to push other MAD pact members out of systems they already owned with threats and bluster. This is the kind of neighbor we hate. Sound familiar? Tre Kroner, well that was between them and Rule of Three. Basically they had a couple of towers in a station system with a huge number of moons, refused to bolster their security and were threat. Because they might attract, you know, hostile neighbors who wanted to grab a station and we'd be involved in one of these. Turns out that was a reasonable fear, eh? Proper Response/Stella Polar set themselves up without becoming the kind of friendly neighbors our other drone region allies are, and then started doing roaming squads all over the region. While we don't mind pew, there's no reason we have to let it live in the system next door. So we pushed them out. Which, incidentally, is where Imperial Order comes in, because they basically took over the space held by one of the other of those. I forget which. We don't keep a public list, but you should let your diplomats know it never hurts to ask first, since, hell, some of us were blue to you.
zykerx Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.03 16:59:00 - [72] Originally by: Marogian Originally by: zykerx Originally by: CARY JUST THE FACTS!! THAT ALL I POSTED. btw acordint to kb it was like 150 vs 3oo and then smashkill thought ok lets warpin some caps and see what hapends WTB Pyschic Killboard I was there- SMASHKILL didn't warp to the gate to 'see what happens'. You had the gate bubbled and were on it with caps there, some ships in the bubble, some BSes at snipe range presumably (I'd hope) aligned and waiting for us to jump into you. SMASHKILL had every advantage. We had no caps on jump-in, ours only arrived just as the last of your carriers/dreads were going down. Also, I'd love to see a killboard that showed 300 people in the MAD gang, because...thats well entirely wrong, our gang was 200ish prior to jumping in, and the jump was optional as we expected to die horribly (as most people would expect jumping into an even numbered fleet bubbled at a gate) so I think the jump-in numbers were closer to 170 or so. ok my bad diddnt look good at killboard it was 298 hostiles within a 3 hour timezone not that battle but whatever the important part is people having funn and that what ag ame is about more funn then boring bob warfare it seems . "MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
Conniving Connivier Amarr Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:14:00 - [73] A lot of the trash talk here is immature, and I am talking about both sides of the conflict (especially my fellow MAD Pact members -- please keep this clean and civil) Here's what happened: Smashkill attacked IO's system looking for a fight. Of course they knew about MAD pact. Of course they expected 100-200 ship fleet to come soon enough after the attack. Smashkill was looking for a big fight, and we are glad, because we could use a big fight as well. The whole MAD vs. Smashkill conflict has been long in the making -- we had had small fights all over the place, so most of us saw a big one coming. We all moved to 0.0 looking for conflict, and wars, and here's one of them. What's not to love? Lets keep it clean, and blow each other's ships till cows come home.
zykerx Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Conniving Connivier A lot of the trash talk here is immature, and I am talking about both sides of the conflict (especially my fellow MAD Pact members -- please keep this clean and civil) Here's what happened: Smashkill attacked IO's system looking for a fight. Of course they knew about MAD pact. Of course they expected 100-200 ship fleet to come soon enough after the attack. Smashkill was looking for a big fight, and we are glad, because we could use a big fight as well. The whole MAD vs. Smashkill conflict has been long in the making -- we had had small fights all over the place, so most of us saw a big one coming. We all moved to 0.0 looking for conflict, and wars, and here's one of them. What's not to love? Lets keep it clean, and blow each other's ships till cows come home. good post . "MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
Zubenelgenubi Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:21:00 - [75] Quote: In the first and most decisive battle you were not outnumbered to any great extent and you had the advantage of bubbles and large cap fleet support and you still lost very heavily (and before you cry "lag" it affected both sides and we had to jump into you). Didn't say we were outnumbered in every engagement did I? And I didn't and dont plan to "cry lag" Quote: In every engagement where the numbers were pretty much even you have had heavy losses, your only real "win" that I am aware of being where you had an organised 70 man gang attacking a 40 man gang that rushed unprepared to defend. I dont know if there is any truth in that statment or not. Personally I have lost a BS and a HAC so far.. pretty much paid for them with loot. So on a personal level it's all pretty good. My own experience has shown a few nights where your numbers in mj- are consistently greater than ours in wnm- / wherever else we are. Which is what I based my outnumbered statement on. I dont see how you can say that Smash and Roadkill outnumber your coalition....?? Quote: I can understand you trying to play the "OMG we are blobbed" card to hide your defeats but most nights in MJ- you could have come there with fairly even numbers if you had been minded to do so. What OMG we are blobbed card? You are just making stuff up now. With the greatest of respect "Less of us to die and more of you to kill" is my motto. Quote: Anyway, any truth to the rumours you have asked Tri to come and bail you out? No idea.. I just log in to shoot stuff. Dont really care much in all honesty. if they want to come pew pew with us then whatever... Quote: Tbh I would be surprised if they would want to swap one laggy POS war in BKG for another so soon, but that's up to them ofc. No idea.. probably right.. unless they feel they want to fight along side smash and roadkill? You Improvise. You Adapt. You overcome! Have a plan, Execute it violently Do it now. ~General Douglas MacArthur
Tweety Bird Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:26:00 - [76] Originally by: God's Army All ROADKILL members needs to stfu in the forums already. Thanks. And someone close this thread again, BS. and u are?
Mazza Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:29:00 - [77] all IVC and MAD members cease on the forum flaming. leave the forums alone and concentrate on the job at hand. MV NO MORE POSTING ON FORUMS PERIOD Yarrrrrrr
Zubenelgenubi Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.03 17:30:00 - [78] Quote: and u are? nub, bog cleaner, as zit popper, ak47 wielding terrorist and camel humping extraordinaire. that about covers it :P You Improvise. You Adapt. You overcome! Have a plan, Execute it violently Do it now. ~General Douglas MacArthur
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:37:00 - [79] I don't care much about politics. The pew-pew without the 60j into hostile space is nice though. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Null Byte Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:50:00 - [80] Originally by: Zucarito Hi im part of this alliance, and im brand new to this game in 0.0 space but what i do know is that its funny to see red dudes come into the big baloons and go pop while a bunch of doods sit in their ships going LAWLLAWLALWLALWLAWLALWLWAlwl. But then i went back to empire cuz i cant fly a BS yet and i was scared of losing my implants and stuff so yea. I dont understand this game yet but all i know is that the popping red dudes in the bubbles is funny. Genius. I laughed so hard when i read this. Epic post in another 'omg i dont have a win button' boring thread

Eventus Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 19:52:00 - [81] guys try to keep the smacking to a minimum. keep it on the kb where it belongs. this will be a long and bloody conflict. our resolve has been tested many times before and found unwavering. prepare for a long drawn out conflict.
Raketefrau Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:09:00 - [82] FACT: This is now 19 pages of the same 3 things stated over and over and over and over again. Noone's listening to arguments, but everyone is making them. Over and over and over again. Think you guys could let it go and keep it in-game?
JeanLuc Descartes Gallente Macabre Votum	Posted - 2007.09.03 20:44:00 - [83] hi mom !
Maj'k Lootar Trinity Corp	Posted - 2007.09.03 21:57:00 - [84] Originally by: Gaunty Edited by: Gaunty on 03/09/2007 14:57:42 Originally by: Maj'k Lootar Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Maj'k Lootar FREGE, the last people on earth who should be pointing the finger and laughing. Your alliance is the biggest joke (no pun intended) that has ever been in eve. Start an alliance, have 2500 other people join it, and take a region of 0.0...drop stations, etc...ya I see why its so funny Start your own alliance and see how far you get... 1 man is not = to another. Each of my corpmates is worth at least 100 Frege pilots. I'd prefer 1 FREGE pilot to 100 of your corpmates. Which is exactly why you still live in the drone regions.
Zephite Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:42:00 - [85] Originally by: Maj'k Lootar Originally by: Gaunty Edited by: Gaunty on 03/09/2007 14:57:42 Originally by: Maj'k Lootar Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Maj'k Lootar FREGE, the last people on earth who should be pointing the finger and laughing. Your alliance is the biggest joke (no pun intended) that has ever been in eve. Start an alliance, have 2500 other people join it, and take a region of 0.0...drop stations, etc...ya I see why its so funny Start your own alliance and see how far you get... 1 man is not = to another. Each of my corpmates is worth at least 100 Frege pilots. I'd prefer 1 FREGE pilot to 100 of your corpmates. Which is exactly why you still live in the drone regions. Burn!
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.03 22:44:00 - [86] Originally by: Raketefrau FACT: This is now 19 pages of the same 3 things stated over and over and over and over again. Noone's listening to arguments, but everyone is making them. Over and over and over again. Think you guys could let it go and keep it in-game? True forum warriors have there settings for max posts per page... So its only 3 pages :P ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
RaV1N Caldari The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.04 00:06:00 - [87] Originally by: Conniving Connivier A lot of the trash talk here is immature, and I am talking about both sides of the conflict (especially my fellow MAD Pact members -- please keep this clean and civil) Here's what happened: Smashkill attacked IO's system looking for a fight. Of course they knew about MAD pact. Of course they expected 100-200 ship fleet to come soon enough after the attack. Smashkill was looking for a big fight, and we are glad, because we could use a big fight as well. The whole MAD vs. Smashkill conflict has been long in the making -- we had had small fights all over the place, so most of us saw a big one coming. We all moved to 0.0 looking for conflict, and wars, and here's one of them. What's not to love? Lets keep it clean, and blow each other's ships till cows come home. A highly accurate account, while some are saying that they popped so many capitals and they lost none while dancing around is not entirely accurate. The above statement points out small to large skirmishes involving mainly two parties in the current conflict. While the loss of capitals is painful we are not the only ones to do so, and before you go all postal on my ass look at the kill boards. As far as he said she said, what does it matter? I am certainly no leader, someone calls primary and I lock and do my best to insta pop. I set my overview to show red/neutral, I and many others dont decide who is red and why. All I know is I am by the end of our engagements left shacking and full of adrenaline........bloody amazing battles and worth every cent I pay! WD to all parties involved and see you on the battle field.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:59:00 - [88] Originally by: Korah What a spanking for smashkill. Over last day all I hear is "please tell us who's in MAD so we never do this again". Wow, we really should keep this ingame, because there all we hear is 'stop attacking so we can go back to carebearing, please please please'.... Quote: If its in drone space it's probably part of MAD pact (aside of RA/Goon). Even if its blue to you. I was hearing about some alliances chaning their standings after MJ- attack to Smashkill and such. ^ If that was true then there'd be a few alliances breaking their obligation atm... I find it interesting that most members of the MAD Pact don't seem to know who the MAD Pact is. Quote: We don't keep a public list, but you should let your diplomats know it never hurts to ask first, since, hell, some of us were blue to you. They asked as nicely as they could without revealing our hand, and got no indication that they were a member. Now that's fine, you guys have friends, we have friends, and now we know who yours are, but you're still in the dark about ours
Krakatau Gallente eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.04 02:49:00 - [89] Now that's fine, you guys have friends, we have friends, and now we know who yours are, but you're still in the dark about ours Lol, you really think your security is that tight. MAD pack HC is well aware of what "friends" you are tring to bring to the party.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 03:08:00 - [90] Originally by: Krakatau Now that's fine, you guys have friends, we have friends, and now we know who yours are, but you're still in the dark about ours Lol, you really think your security is that tight. MAD pack HC is well aware of what "friends" you are tring to bring to the party. I'm pretty sure most of our friends won't show up unless we end up on the defensive, and I can guarantee you don't have a clue who they all are. And yes, they're blue to you at the moment. ;) Those who you 'think' we're trying to bring to the party, are not our friends. People looking for a fight maybe. And that's the worst kept secret about. It wouldn't be that hard to find out who our other friends are, but you're not going to find it by sniffing around who you think is showing up now. The funny thing is that no one seems to even try to engage us without spies on TS anymore :o it's quite sad.



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