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ollobrains Mission Invasion Squad	Posted - 2007.09.20 02:30:00 - [301] Originally by: xDEVASTATORx This drone NERFING is a load of BS! You aren't unnerfing the drones you are nerfing them. I don't care how many waves of drones I can field I care about the types of drones I can field and as a Myrmidon pilot I like to field heavies which your *** bandwidth nerfing will screw up. Instead of nerfing anything that people whine about why don't you encourage people to learn tactics like say targeting drones with alpha strikes. I'm seriously getting sick of the nerf-friendly carebears whining about things that work. I play EVE for fun, and the more fun factor you remove from the game the more I'm going to think about moving on to another game. this is about classiflying ships according to their size nothing more which is a shame.
dpatyi	Posted - 2007.09.20 20:01:00 - [302] Battlecruisers are not intended to be used with large weapon modules. For ex. the drake can fit 1 cruise launcher, with nothing else on it... The myrmi should be able to deploy only 1 heavy drone, and some lights, or 7-8 mediums. P.S. the basic wexor will become actually a guardian wexor.
dpatyi	Posted - 2007.09.20 20:04:00 - [303] > Vexor
Aeryn Davenport Claflin Industries	Posted - 2007.09.20 22:37:00 - [304] Are we going to get the cloak nerf as well?
Eraggan Sadarr Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2007.09.21 01:06:00 - [305] I general this release will see a lot of long awaited improvements (drones being a biggie, and about time). Regarding drones i hope we get rid of the "target destroyed, split up and move to random targets routine" As drones is a group of weapons you should be able to focus fire like any other group of weapons in eve. As a fully trained Myrmidon pilot i will of course also hate the bandwidth implementation. Although if it helps on balance in the grander scope, i'm all for it. Just too bad for me. First the drake...nerf....move to myrm...nerf...sigh. Guess i should be moving to a hauler, and see if that gets nerfed too :P On a side note: Could we get a timestamp instead of just a date on the marketlog exports. Too bad that you cant figure out the exact expiry date :( Eve Market Scanner
Adam Rauhar	Posted - 2007.09.21 09:58:00 - [306] Originally by: xDEVASTATORx I play EVE for fun, and the more fun factor you remove from the game the more I'm going to think about moving on to another game. Can I have your stuff?
Lugburz	Posted - 2007.09.21 11:15:00 - [307] Edited by: Lugburz on 21/09/2007 11:18:42 Originally by: Adam Rauhar Originally by: xDEVASTATORx I play EVE for fun, and the more fun factor you remove from the game the more I'm going to think about moving on to another game. Can I have your stuff? DAMMIT!! beat me to it And will the myrm still be a good ship now? who wants to field several waves of drones when your PvPing, sounds a bit odd really - wouldnt you be wanting as much dps as possible? and to think, i wanted a myrm for low sec protection.... i'll have to train something else now, its not easy being a caldari you know... nerfing the myrm? why???
Gangus Minmatar Matari BackBone	Posted - 2007.09.21 15:27:00 - [308] Hmmm. I wanted to maske some clever comment putting all the ccp detractors down (you whine and moan but continue to pay your RL cash to play...) but I really can't think of anything to say (oh wait, I already did!) In that case, all thats left to say is PICS OR STFU!!! Gangus MBB Corp Booster Guinea Pig and Seer Of Visions any links between said boosters and those cool times when the hamsters tell me the future are purely coincidental... Never mess with a guy in an ugly ship. He's bitter and has nothing to lose.
Einar Matveinen Gallente Paladines N E X O	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:38:00 - [309] Originally by: Gangus In that case, all thats left to say is PICS OR STFU!!! Yeah!!!
galphi	Posted - 2007.09.23 06:24:00 - [310] I concur! I'm really interested in seeing the new Dominix. I mean, it could hardly look worse

Perry Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:45:00 - [311] PvE Battleships... Are cloaked Ravens not good enough? I would hate a T2 Armageddon with "Carebear" written all over it. Waited 4 1/2 years for it! ________________ Kali 3.0 Patchnotes: Amarr Oompf! ~~-Armageddon: +1 Missile Slot~~ -Omen: Autocannon RoF Bonus -Apocalypse: 5% Mining Bonus ~~-Zealot: +10% more golden hull~~
Becka Call	Posted - 2007.09.26 01:41:00 - [312] Has the new engine been tested to work with Wine under Linux?
Amaldor Themodius	Posted - 2007.09.26 12:07:00 - [313] Sigh If there is the need to nerf the myrmidon then some accomodation will need to be made to the ship bonuses it recieves.. the current drone bonuses applied to medium drones will not align equally with the damage bonuses of other race tier 2 battlecruisers.. the bandwidth drone nerf is both uneeded and unwanted.. The most rewarding aspect of playing EVE is the richness of game play and the many and varied ways we can PVP but over time this is being eroded... the NOS nerf, now the drone nerf, the upcomming sensor damp nerf are just some examples of this gradually players are being herded toward PVP where shooting each other with guns is the only viable PVP method... Each nerf is a step closer to destroying the diversity of the game and diminishes the rich vivid playing experience of the game.. I like some of the upcomming patch notes but for me this is another nail in the coffin of a game i love to play.. CCP need to exercise a little more integrity in resisting forum whining... Ironic really when u consider this post.. Sigh
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:37:00 - [314] New ships = new models? If 'yes' can we have any pics or art work? If 'no' what current model will be used for the cruiser class interdictor? Thanks. C. - sig designer - eve mail
Alteris Domond	Posted - 2007.09.26 23:26:00 - [315] Edited by: Alteris Domond on 26/09/2007 23:26:24 Originally by: xDEVASTATORx This drone NERFING is a load of BS! You aren't unnerfing the drones you are nerfing them. I don't care how many waves of drones I can field I care about the types of drones I can field and as a Myrmidon pilot I like to field heavies which your *** bandwidth nerfing will screw up. Instead of nerfing anything that people whine about why don't you encourage people to learn tactics like say targeting drones with alpha strikes. I'm seriously getting sick of the nerf-friendly carebears whining about things that work. I play EVE for fun, and the more fun factor you remove from the game the more I'm going to think about moving on to another game. Im carebear and i agree. this is a horrible drone nerf. I pilot off and on my domi and my myrm. The whole point of the mrym is drones and gang assist. taking that away will severely remove it's ability to function. it will knock on effect that players will crawl into ships too big for them and end up making them get ganked more often. leave drone skillz where they at, or allow at least ships to use their present allocations( myrm with 5 heavies)
Ztrain Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.27 04:03:00 - [316] Well I just finished spending several months maxing out myra and heavy drone skills. That gets nerfed I'll have no problem not having to pay that 15 a month anymore on that account since that's it's specialty. And retooling for something else just to have that get nurfed down the road is a gamble I'm tired of playing. CCP taking the fun out of EVE one patch at a time. Z CCP (Producers of Slide Show Online) takin the fun out of EVE, one patch at a time.
Jenni Concarnadine	Posted - 2007.09.27 07:13:00 - [317] Z, if you do decide to retire, may I (politely, of course) draw to your attention the huddled masses of poor n00bs out here. Which is a polite way of saying "Can I hav yur stuf??" Actually, I suspect that, whatever "nerfs" get inflicted, it won't take long before people find a way round them (and if it's true that the devs play the game, I don't imagine they'll over-nerf it for themselves). Jenni C Vote Hamster! * * * * * Hamsters don't overload very well
Ztrain Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.27 09:04:00 - [318] Edited by: Ztrain on 27/09/2007 09:05:08 I wrote up a decent length response but the dev's with their current capabilities wouldn't be able to actually implement the fixes. Take a stroll over the last year of what the dev's have stated they want and then look at what they've actually done. The writing is on the wall. As you mention the newer players. Wait and see what happens in Rev 3 but if your coming from another MMO. Keep your old subscriptions going. You may want them to be kept up to date in the coming months. Z CCP (Producers of Slide Show Online) takin the fun out of EVE, one patch at a time.
Adam Rauhar	Posted - 2007.09.27 09:25:00 - [319] Originally by: Amaldor Themodius ...the bandwidth drone nerf is both uneeded and unwanted.. The most rewarding aspect of playing EVE is the richness of game play and the many and varied ways we can PVP but over time this is being eroded... the NOS nerf, now the drone nerf, the upcomming sensor damp nerf are just some examples of this gradually players are being herded toward PVP where shooting each other with guns is the only viable PVP method... Each nerf is a step closer to destroying the diversity of the game and diminishes the rich vivid playing experience of the game.. I like some of the upcomming patch notes but for me this is another nail in the coffin of a game i love to play.. CCP need to exercise a little more integrity in resisting forum whining... Ironic really when u consider this post.. Sigh /signed You forgot ecm nerf Can I have your stuff? Adam. PS: About paying real money for eve... when can we pay with debit cards like maestro and others? I know, there is alredy a topic about that, so consider this a commercial for that. :) Further rants here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=531065&page=6
Cytech Caldari Fun Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.27 11:53:00 - [320] I'm confused, a myrm with hammer IIs = 238dps (no guns involved) a drake with HAM IIs does 218.... sure with a couple of BCUS you can increase the BPS, but whats stopping you fitting guns and 1/2 damage mods on the myrm? lets say we fitted 5 medium neutron IIs as well and we get way over 400dps....still using "only" med drones so all you people are getting ****ed off about the fact they are bringing the myrm inline with other BC's? did i miss something?

Adam Rauhar	Posted - 2007.09.27 12:20:00 - [321] Yeah, well.... I dont think there is much point in big ship kills little ship no matter what. You can go after a BS in a myrmi and have a chance of blowing it up. You can go after a BS in a drake and have a chance of not being blown up. As far as minmatar and amarr BCs go... well... IN YOUR FACE! (dont know their bonuses, im a n00b) I guess what I would like to say is... a pilot with good skills and good fit on a kestrel should be able to kill a n00b player with badly fitted BS. I really dont see a point of everybody flying around in BSes just because everything else is too flimsy and cant kill anything (since everybody is in a BS).
Trautenberk Rytiri Lva	Posted - 2007.09.28 13:08:00 - [322] Edited by: Trautenberk on 28/09/2007 13:08:59 Any info about optimal hardware specifications for the new engine?
Susan Acid	Posted - 2007.09.28 14:36:00 - [323] Any chance we can have the Caldari Race renamed to 'Whiners' or 'Not Very Good' and change their description for Rev3 please?At least this way nobody will pick them just 'cos they sound cool and we can be done with it all.
Alteris Domond	Posted - 2007.09.29 18:55:00 - [324] Originally by: Cytech I'm confused, a myrm with hammer IIs = 238dps (no guns involved) a drake with HAM IIs does 218.... sure with a couple of BCUS you can increase the BPS, but whats stopping you fitting guns and 1/2 damage mods on the myrm? lets say we fitted 5 medium neutron IIs as well and we get way over 400dps....still using "only" med drones so all you people are getting ****ed off about the fact they are bringing the myrm inline with other BC's? did i miss something? lets see... now add in that getting to HH 2s takes a bare minimum of 2 months. then factor that the myrm is a ...... DRONE PLATFORM.. now it strikes me that using drones on a ship like that is just plain wierd. so givning it bonuses to use these drones... i mean wow thats unfair. Lets balance out tankabilty next, and make it possible to take out a Hac in a BS. Or even better in a BC! This is a serious over nerf. Unless ccp allows for the use of 5 Heavy drones, this ship will be rendered useless.
Moni Toimikone	Posted - 2007.09.29 20:08:00 - [325] Originally by: Alteris Domond lets see... now add in that getting to HH 2s takes a bare minimum of 2 months. then factor that the myrm is a ...... DRONE PLATFORM.. now it strikes me that using drones on a ship like that is just plain wierd. so givning it bonuses to use these drones... i mean wow thats unfair. And last time i checked... ur drake also has weapons...... and those missle launchers could pump out the same total dps as a myrm when pilots r same age. Ur completely ignoring stats. Not only that ur drake has a much easier tank than ne Gallente BC. Lets balance out tankabilty next, and make it possible to take out a Hac in a BS. Or even better in a BC! This is a serious over nerf. Unless ccp allows for the use of 5 Heavy drones, this ship will be rendered useless. This guy makes absolutely no sense at all.
Altrisra	Posted - 2007.09.29 20:39:00 - [326] Edited by: Altrisra on 29/09/2007 20:45:19 Originally by: Cytech I'm confused, a myrm with hammer IIs = 238dps (no guns involved) a drake with HAM IIs does 218.... sure with a couple of BCUS you can increase the BPS, but whats stopping you fitting guns and 1/2 damage mods on the myrm? lets say we fitted 5 medium neutron IIs as well and we get way over 400dps....still using "only" med drones so all you people are getting ****ed off about the fact they are bringing the myrm inline with other BC's? did i miss something? I believe he(Dommond) is sayng that this person(CYTECH) is totally ignoring the fact that the Drake really isn't made to use drones, so when using the drones on the Myrm vs a Drake, obviously the myrm will win. And that total dps from the myrm is nearly the same as the total dps from the Drake. I don't know the numbers from the other BCs. He then points out that it based on char age and skills, it is easier to develope a tank in a Drake than in a Myrm in less time. I guess it makes sense since i speak crazy wcked out, over caffinated gamer. I agree the nerf is useless and unwanted.
Kyra Felann Gallente Red Eye .Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.01 21:18:00 - [327] Originally by: JForce Can I get a "Please explain" on: "With this, bandwidth determines the number of drones you can control, allowing the dronebay to be considerably increased on drone ships, accommodating more waves or variety." Do you mean to say that if my bandwidth is less than someone else, I can release 5 drones and they can release 10? So combat will now be decided by how good your internet connection is? lern2read. Seriously. Read the very next small paragraph.
Strander Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.10.02 07:50:00 - [328] So does anyone know what the required spec is to run the new game engine? Also what is the official release date.
Strander Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.10.02 07:53:00 - [329] So does anyone know what the required spec is to run the new game engine? Also what is the official release date.
Tidas Andrommeda Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:58:00 - [330] Originally by: Alteris Domond Edited by: Alteris Domond on 29/09/2007 19:10:16 Originally by: Cytech I'm confused, a myrm with hammer IIs = 238dps (no guns involved) a drake with HAM IIs does 218.... sure with a couple of BCUS you can increase the BPS, but whats stopping you fitting guns and 1/2 damage mods on the myrm? lets say we fitted 5 medium neutron IIs as well and we get way over 400dps....still using "only" med drones so all you people are getting **ed off about the fact they are bringing the myrm inline with other BC's? did i miss something? lets see... now add in that getting to HH 2s takes a bare minimum of 2 months. then factor that the myrm is a ...... DRONE PLATFORM.. now it strikes me that using drones on a ship like that is just plain wierd. so givning it bonuses to use these drones... i mean wow thats unfair. And last time i checked... ur drake also has weapons...... and those missle launchers could pump out the same total dps as a myrm when pilots r same age. Ur completely ignoring stats. Not only that ur drake has a much easier tank than ne Gallente BC. Lets balance out tankabilty next, and make it possible to take out a Hac in a BS. Or even better in a BC! This is a serious over nerf. Unless ccp allows for the use of 5 Heavy drones, this ship will be rendered useless. Ok guys heres the loadout. Myrm = 5 HH2s and no other damage mods or guns = 238 DPS Drake = 2 HH IIs, 1 Hobgoblin IIs, and 7 Heavy Missile Launcher Is = 205 DPS Drake = 5 Hobgoblin IIs, and 7 Heavy Missile Launcher Is** = 221 DPS (If its the more effective passive tank it won't have damage mods. This comparison isn't fair either cause its allowing for the drake to use 2 types of weapons yet limiting the Myrm to only one. But as you can see, even with this disadvantage, the Myrm is still beating out the Drake as far as DPS goes.) Do it in EFT yourself. With only 5 Ogre IIs the Myrm had 475 DPS. The Myrm will now be more in line with other BCs. (Btw before you say I'm ignoring skills, I'm using the "all Level V" skillset in EFT.) Not only that, but because of the bandwidth "restriction" you will be forced to carry more waves of drones instead of just the biggest and baddest drones, thus keeping your DPS stable even if they try to keep killing your drones.



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