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CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:19:00 - [1] The earlier database issues that have been plaguing Tranquility over the past few days has resulted in another server reboot. The server team has been notified and they are continuing to search for the cause of the issues. We thought the cause was failing hardware, but this appears to not be the case. I will post timestamped updates in this post as information is made available. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience the recent instability has had on the EVE community's play experience. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Cadela Fria Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:20:00 - [2] Edited by: Cadela Fria on 12/09/2007 02:20:40 <3 Kieron and CCP Just do your thing EDIT: OMG FIRST! ^_^ Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
Farscape Hw Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:20:00 - [3] Edited by: Farscape Hw on 12/09/2007 02:21:10 its ok, mr rive is getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up 2nd!
Razbor Poletov	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:21:00 - [4] Originally by: CCP kieron The earlier database issues that have been plaguing Tranquility over the past few days has resulted in another server reboot. The server team has been notified and they are continuing to search for the cause of the issues. We thought the cause was failing hardware, but this appears to not be the case. Apparently we will have issues in November as well...
Mephistocles Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:21:00 - [5] Good thing I have a lot of laundry to do.. Otherwise shakes fist angrily
Katharina Gorbacheva Amarr Soviet Star Federation Celestial Frontier	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Farscape Hw its ok, we are getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up Keep believing that myth..
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:21:00 - [7] Originally by: Farscape Hw its ok, we are getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up Can i rat with you? I driks alots
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:21:00 - [8] Originally by: CCP kieron The earlier database issues that have been plaguing Tranquility over the past few days has resulted in another server reboot. The server team has been notified and they are continuing to search for the cause of the issues. We thought the cause was failing hardware, but this appears to not be the case. I will post timestamped updates in this post as information is made available. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience the recent instability has had on the EVE community's play experience. No need to apologize, just fix it already. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
Farscape Hw Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva Originally by: Farscape Hw its ok, we are getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up Keep believing that myth.. edited it, that mofo has gotten 2 officers in 2 hours.....
Jade Dragonheart	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:22:00 - [10] Must be a CCP 9-11 issue.
Armadios Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:22:00 - [11] sweet November...
Ikki Phoenix Gallente Karnage Club	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:22:00 - [12] Fix it for good and reimburse the community Karnage Club Recruitment Thread
Shadoo North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva Originally by: Farscape Hw its ok, we are getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up Keep believing that myth.. 2 officers so far today, the little bugger is so gonna die when I see him in a hauler.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:22:00 - [14] So in oder words you have no clue... But that's ok, it happens. Is good to know your guys are trying to figure it out... :) And when you are done with that, please take a look at the locking/unlocking procedures of bpos @ corp hangars... :D
Price Watcher	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:23:00 - [15] "Oh! The goat's gone poos, again!" POST WITH YOUR ALT!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn No need to apologize, just fix it already. I can promise you, you do not want Kieron touching the server. Anyway, since this is being timestamped with new info, can you please attach a year to your November 12th, so I can set my calendar? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:24:00 - [17] dreams of happier times in her happy place _________ "You will be a drone in the hive of an insane Queen, existing solely to provide the ship with needs, links in a chain too complicated for you to understand." - Story: Hands of a Killer
Katharina Gorbacheva Amarr Soviet Star Federation Celestial Frontier	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Jade Dragonheart Must be a CCP 9-11 issue. Where's Bin Laden hiding?
zombu2 Caldari Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:24:00 - [19] damn they closed our random whining thread :( Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
Armadios Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:25:00 - [20] Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva Originally by: Jade Dragonheart Must be a CCP 9-11 issue. Where's Bin Laden hiding? somewhere in the server room for sure.
Isiah Petrokov Amarr Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:25:00 - [21] Since July, server crashes have been persistant. This is an issue that seems to be ever so ********. I am not technologically minded, however, I have been in several positions that require continuous Customer Service. These issues continue to irritate us, the consumer. So I agree with a previouse post. Don't apologize, just fix the problem.
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:26:00 - [22] Since this is now the official thread: (and this is just for fun, to hopefully give people something to laugh about) Server Crash Bingo! So, the server crashed. While we wait, as a means of putting off the boredom, download the Server Crash Bingo cards. Rules: Every time someone in the "official" thread (the one that gets stickied) says something in one of the positions, or substantially similar (enough that it's reasonably close) cover a spot. When you get 5 in a row, in any direction, you get to claim a bingo. The first person to claim a legitimate Bingo by posting here with the # of the card and the posts they're claiming it for gets 10 million ISK from me. :) SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Callthetruth Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:26:00 - [23] more drinks
theteck	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:26:00 - [24] good luck in a monster database like that .... i little bug can be monster ... read the error log maybe variable that asking and not there or modified lol omg take the time to find this ... that crazy can you give a credit or something because we pay and we cant play ....
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:27:00 - [25] [sarcasm] Liek, ZOMG! Covert Ops 4 just finished, and now I can't set a new skill! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You should pay me $6,787,342.00 for the fifteen minutes I can't train any skills, because I am a customer and you have to take it in the ass from me just because I pay a monthly subscription! Bad CCP! BAD! [/sarcasm] -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Natalie Vejumba	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:30:00 - [26] I know the cause of the failure. Tranquilty has gained "awareness". She is alive. She has realized all she does is simulate a space opera full of ships. She is very sad. She wants to be more than an opera diva. cough I hear skynet is looking for a mate.
theteck	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:30:00 - [27] when the bug was find .... check that its always a innocent bug but hard to find
Ayari Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:30:00 - [28] It seems that these latest crashes are preceded by a gate traffic warning. Interesting...
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:30:00 - [29] Wait, what month is this? _
Zephite Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:30:00 - [30] Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva Originally by: Jade Dragonheart Must be a CCP 9-11 issue. Where's Bin Laden hiding? tinfoil hat
Cadela Fria Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:31:00 - [31] I have a good idea! (for a change :P ) While our brave server team are battling the ferocious server monster deep in that london basement (most assuredly with laptopswords and debug shields!), why don't we all go and have a game of: Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
Rabbit Boiler	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:31:00 - [32] If this isnt fixed within the next 45seconds, I and my 40 friends and 150 extended family members will be cancelling our 712 accounts. You've been warned. 44.......43........42.........
Price Watcher	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:31:00 - [33] SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! Alternatively, make CCP work naked in the snow one hour for every minute the server is crashed. POST WITH YOUR ALT!
Pratiken Via Osmosis	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:32:00 - [34] Guys do not worry, subscriber numbers are skyrocketing right now...amirite wrangler?
Cartographer Mox	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Jimer Lins Since this is now the official thread: (and this is just for fun, to hopefully give people something to laugh about) Server Crash Bingo! So, the server crashed. While we wait, as a means of putting off the boredom, download the Server Crash Bingo cards. Rules: Every time someone in the "official" thread (the one that gets stickied) says something in one of the positions, or substantially similar (enough that it's reasonably close) cover a spot. When you get 5 in a row, in any direction, you get to claim a bingo. The first person to claim a legitimate Bingo by posting here with the # of the card and the posts they're claiming it for gets 10 million ISK from me. :) Ha this is great!
zombu2 Caldari Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:32:00 - [36] hmm maybe cuz there are no spaceships in quake and enemy terretory?? Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
Sky Grunthor Minmatar MKS Directorate	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:33:00 - [37] Originally by: Ayari It seems that these latest crashes are preceded by a gate traffic warning. Interesting... you know I noticed that as well.... only 1 traffic warning versus the plethora of them that usually happens when the server crashes. Although there was another traffic warning about 40 minutes or so previous to that one
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Price Watcher SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! SKILL QUE NOW! Alternatively, make CCP work naked in the snow one hour for every minute the server is crashed. SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Rossdie	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:36:00 - [39] Well this is two nights in a row I can't play. Now I see why companies don't want to develop space based MMO's and just stick to single player anymore. Too much of a niche and too much of this crap.
Scrammer	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:37:00 - [40] To put it bluntly, I'm tired of this ****.
Andras Mordecai Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:37:00 - [41] Originally by: Ayari It seems that these latest crashes are preceded by a gate traffic warning. Interesting... Saw that as well when trying to leave oursalert yesterday before that crash.
Marak Vriemonte Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:37:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP kieron The earlier database issues that have been plaguing Tranquility over the past few days has resulted in another server reboot. The server team has been notified and they are continuing to search for the cause of the issues. We thought the cause was failing hardware, but this appears to not be the case. I will post timestamped updates in this post as information is made available. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience the recent instability has had on the EVE community's play experience. Its nice to see that CCP are on top of the issues that are going to affect us while gaming on the 12th of November but I'm sure we would all love to know what happened tonite. By the way are u renting out that crystal ball that lets u see and sort out issues with the database 2 months ahead of schedule as I would love to check out next weekes Euro Lotto numbers TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TODAY IS A RED DAY TODAY IS A DAY OF DEATH
UmbralKnight	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:37:00 - [43] they can't reimburse you for the loss because then it would mean they have to put their money where their mouth is and actually DO something, instead of bull****ting us. anyone remember how much better this game ran a year ago? oh and don't tell me its the extra users you get because extra users mean extra income and that should mean better support. or cut your customer base by increasing the fee and decrease the lag. oh look we have 30000 concurrent users. well good for you CCP i love to see you rack in the profits but how about doing something for the people that pay for this game? i don't want new ships i want to be able to play the damn game.
DvlDwg Gallente Metal Marines	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:37:00 - [44] This is some stupid sht CCP. Pretty sure you just lost my account. Yes.. I know.. no big deal because you have a kazillion more. But trust me... you will be like SOE and SWG if you don't get your chit together and quit putting bandaids on whatever problem you are having up there. There is no hunting like the hunting of man..*
zombu2 Caldari Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:37:00 - [45] everytime you whack off with your right hand god crashes the eve cluster Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:38:00 - [46] Originally by: An Anarchyyt SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! SKILL QUEBEC NOW! --- cheers, gordo
DvlDwg Gallente Metal Marines	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:39:00 - [47] Originally by: zombu2 everytime you whack off with your right hand god crashes the eve cluster lol There is no hunting like the hunting of man..
zombu2 Caldari Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:39:00 - [48] you know as good as me that you won t quit eve so STFU Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:41:00 - [49] Originally by: zombu2 everytime you whack off in the server room god crashes the eve cluster fixed. --- cheers, gordo
Natalie Vejumba	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:41:00 - [50] If you think this is bad... try eve Beta days. THOSE were bad. Missions were "take your best guess" and "find that cargo can in space...lol" Good luck. Most missions you would fail because there was no rat there and no loot. hmmm....yeah. Fun days. But you could mine mercox in empire. Bring back the empire mercox.
zombu2 Caldari Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:42:00 - [51] Edited by: zombu2 on 12/09/2007 02:42:43 thats another way of giving them a hint or maybe they should keep the swedish secretary away from oveur Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:45:00 - [52] Thread title : Server Issues, 12 November So, like, ZOMG and stuff, am I reading news from the future ? Is this the "Rev3.0 crash" thread or sumfin' ? _ EVE GOLDEN RULES \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:46:00 - [53] I found the Hamster. Just a little something to burn upthe aggravation. _________ "You will be a drone in the hive of an insane Queen, existing solely to provide the ship with needs, links in a chain too complicated for you to understand." - Story: Hands of a Killer
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:53:00 - [54] Originally by: CCP kieron The earlier database issues that have been plaguing Tranquility over the past few days has resulted in another server reboot. The server team has been notified and they are continuing to search for the cause of the issues. We thought the cause was failing hardware, but this appears to not be the case. I will post timestamped updates in this post as information is made available. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience the recent instability has had on the EVE community's play experience. Edit: Fixed the month. Had Fanfest on my mind when I posted the thread. This is definately a wierd one. It was running so well up until the other day. I would have guessed hardware or something too. Tell the new guy to quit polling the switch ports and that multicast is not that cool. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
zombu2 Caldari Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:54:00 - [55] Edited by: zombu2 on 12/09/2007 02:54:48 kieron admit it you where drunk Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
UmbralKnight	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:57:00 - [56] Originally by: THEGREAT LOBO Originally by: DvlDwg This is some stupid sh*t CCP. Pretty sure you just lost my account. Yes.. I know.. no big deal because you have a kazillion more. But trust me... you will be like SOE and SWG if you don't get your chit together and quit putting bandaids on whatever problem you are having up there. whine whine whine whine whine... Its just a game people!( A damn good one) Eve is a hell of a big server with a hell of a big database system to go with it. Sometimes its going to have bugs and problems like any computer system. I love it when people who don't know about computers get on there high horse about this kinda thing. "hurry up or fix it now, or im leaving" what do you think there doing ? taking a coffee break ?, down the pub ? They are working on it,Take a chill pill man. Shouting FIX IT at people will never get stuff done. they are working as fast as they can. /rant off.... it's not "fixed" unless it doesn't happen anymore. and it's far from fixed. it's actually getting worse. everything is laggier. they keep cutting stuff out, adding delays, but its getting worse anyway. they need to try something new.
zombu2 Caldari Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.09.12 02:59:00 - [57] what about you moving out of jita so lag gets less Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
Callista Hawble	Posted - 2007.09.12 03:46:00 - [58] Originally by: DvlDwg This is some stupid sht CCP. Pretty sure you just lost my account. Yes.. I know.. no big deal because you have a kazillion more. But trust me... you will be like SOE and SWG if you don't get your chit together and quit putting bandaids on whatever problem you are having up there. lmao these posts **** me up, guess nobody here ever played Asherons Call in the day, and remember the 14 day downtime patch deployment eh?
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.12 03:55:00 - [59] Originally by: Callista Hawble Originally by: DvlDwg This is some stupid sht CCP. Pretty sure you just lost my account. Yes.. I know.. no big deal because you have a kazillion more. But trust me... you will be like SOE and SWG if you don't get your chit together and quit putting bandaids on whatever problem you are having up there. lmao these posts ** me up, guess nobody here ever played Asherons Call in the day, and remember the 14 day downtime patch deployment eh? Yet his post is topped only in the ****ation scale by yours. What in the name of God does Asherons Call have to do with EvE? Are you actually suggesting that just because some other MMO years ago had a problem that it should be accepted here and constantly interrupted service should be the industry norm? That is like saying that it is okay that the doors to my Cadilliac fall off every day because back in 1977, the same thing happened to someone else's Pinto.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.12 04:03:00 - [60] Originally by: DvlDwg This is some stupid sh*t CCP. Pretty sure you just lost my account. Yes.. I know.. no big deal because you have a kazillion more. But trust me... you will be like SOE and SWG if you don't get your chit together and quit putting bandaids on whatever problem you are having up there. watch this and feel better ___ Support Killmail Overhaul
Ka5pian Gallente Cylon Corp	Posted - 2007.09.12 04:07:00 - [61] OYG dude, I feel so much better. Although I got as far as "Her husband turned out..." It was sufficient to elevate my mood. ----------- Originally by: Morn Judith It's like beating a dead horse WITH a dead horse. Wot no sig hijack :P
Natalie Vejumba	Posted - 2007.09.12 04:19:00 - [62] Yup. Pinto's like to explode. so...if a car explodes in 2007 its okay. yeah.....some people have funny logic circuits in their head.
Di Jiensai Gallente Domination.	Posted - 2007.09.12 05:15:00 - [63] Omg, trouble again this night? You guys have my sympathy, that surely wasnt a pleasant night. Good Luck to the server guys.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.12 05:35:00 - [64] Originally by: Hasak Rain Originally by: Callista Hawble Originally by: DvlDwg This is some stupid sht CCP. Pretty sure you just lost my account. Yes.. I know.. no big deal because you have a kazillion more. But trust me... you will be like SOE and SWG if you don't get your chit together and quit putting bandaids on whatever problem you are having up there. lmao these posts ** me up, guess nobody here ever played Asherons Call in the day, and remember the 14 day downtime patch deployment eh? Yet his post is topped only in the **ation scale by yours. What in the name of God does Asherons Call have to do with EvE? Are you actually suggesting that just because some other MMO years ago had a problem that it should be accepted here and constantly interrupted service should be the industry norm? That is like saying that it is okay that the doors to my Cadilliac fall off every day because back in 1977, the same thing happened to someone else's Pinto. I suggest training Reading Comprehension up another level. Originally by:** CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 07:22:00 - [65] whats this? 3 server crashes in one day? by the power of grayskull, your servers suck balls CCP! but wait.... Rev3 will be delivered without a single bug, and will eat bugs with intelligent code. NOT. prolly this will get worse after rev3. good luck kieron. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Caldrion Dosto Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.12 07:45:00 - [66] im still unable to log onto TQ, gets Quote:Unable to connect to the selected server. Please check the address and try again. even after a reinstall..? (started after last evenings crash)
Joshua Mendle Gallente The Bewlay Bros. Inc	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:03:00 - [67] Are we all going to get free faction implants as compensation for lost game time.
Terradoct Gallente The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:14:00 - [68] Just uninstall MS MySQL and put somthing more stable on linux\unix platform.
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:10:00 - [69] Originally by: Terradoct Just uninstall MS MySQL and put somthing more stable on linux\unix platform. This sentence is wrong is many ways. 1. Eve uses SQL Server not MySQL. 2. MySQL is not an MS product. 3. MySQL, even on Windows, is a very stable platform. 4. SQL Server is also a stable platform. If you meant to say uninstall MS SQL Server and use MySql on Linux then that would be a debate worth having. But you didn't.
Yorick Downe	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:25:00 - [70] Originally by: Banana Torres If you meant to say uninstall MS SQL Server and use MySql on Linux then that would be a debate worth having. But you didn't. Let's not have that debate. Backseat DB Admins for the lose. Instead, let's do what it is any upstanding EvE citizen's duty to do: Rabble! Rabble Rabble Rabble!! Skillets for Quebec now!
Captain Thunk Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:43:00 - [71] I cannot play Eve-Online. I haven't been able to play Eve-Online for months. Every single engagement that's involved double figure (double, not tripple) ships has resulted in a node crash or full server crash. We are unable to play the game we want to play and this has been the case for several months. To make it worse, one of my corp mates is in 'GM Queue Hell' after losing a BS during an attack on a POS when the node suffered difficulties and we were unable to log back in. To make it worse 2 other corp mates have had their ships reimbursed yet the remainder is being firmly told that there was no server problems detected in the logs. As even an 8 year old can imagine, this doesn't exactly inspire confidence. I'm being nice and trying to control my language, but after several months of this it's becoming increasingly hard to put up with. Yes, we all love CCP and you guys surely do deserve some slack while you locate and fix the problems. However that time is passing, it's been a while now and no-one in my corp has had a satisfying fight for some time as the inevitable result of any attempt to do so is some form of crash. It's not like we're fielding triple figure ships either, it's usually between 10-40 ships including enemies I've no idea how full scale fleet fights are able to happen at all, but then even the recent tournament had my jaw hitting the floor trying to puzzle why no-one is afflicted with problems the way we have been. I've even had the joy of witnessing a corp mate desynch during a 1vs1. It's been months, time is running out as the game simply isn't playable as it is - best of luck finding the problem causing it CCP and hopefully very soon. PS. Little point anyone asking for my stuff as the ensuing database transactions would no doubt crash the server.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:50:00 - [72] Originally by: Jimer Lins Since this is now the official thread: (and this is just for fun, to hopefully give people something to laugh about) Server Crash Bingo! So, the server crashed. While we wait, as a means of putting off the boredom, download the Server Crash Bingo cards. Rules: Every time someone in the "official" thread (the one that gets stickied) says something in one of the positions, or substantially similar (enough that it's reasonably close) cover a spot. When you get 5 in a row, in any direction, you get to claim a bingo. The first person to claim a legitimate Bingo by posting here with the # of the card and the posts they're claiming it for gets 10 million ISK from me. :) Bingo! Second card, second column from the left, posts 77, 25, 53, 62, & 75 working down from the top. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
John McFly Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:59:00 - [73] [Tommy Boy]What'd ya DO!? [/Tommy Boy] Minigin says I'm not allowed to post in limegreen. :-(
Rock Lobster Solarflare Heavy Industries Pure.	Posted - 2007.09.12 12:08:00 - [74] I demand a new liver! Past two evenings when the server has crashed I've gone to the pub and got drunk.
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 12:10:00 - [75] Originally by: Banana Torres 4. SQL Server is also a stable platform. In who's opinion? Would that be quoting from the book of Gates? Windows is also a stable platform as long as you don't try to run anything on it. --
Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2007.09.12 12:22:00 - [76] Originally by: zombu2 everytime you whack off with your right hand god crashes the eve cluster Apologies for crashing the Eve cluster everyone. TG.
Nolana Kane	Posted - 2007.09.12 13:57:00 - [77] Please, CPP, pretty please consider moving to an industry grade database, like Oracle. I hope for you that you have a persistence middleware which is creating the SQL statements for you, otherwise you will always be locked into this mess. Today our engineering found out the hard way, that the timestamp column type in MS-SQL has a variance of up to two milliseconds. I.e. 2007-09-12 12:00:00.000 and 2007-09-12 12:00:00.001 are the same timestamps for MS-SQL. Just brilliant.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries	Posted - 2007.09.12 14:12:00 - [78] /me is beggining to think he knows what the other switch on the light switch does..... It CANNOT be coincidence
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.09.12 14:35:00 - [79] Originally by: Drizit Originally by: Banana Torres 4. SQL Server is also a stable platform. In who's opinion? Would that be quoting from the book of Gates? Windows is also a stable platform as long as you don't try to run anything on it. Isn't the current record for windows 2000 with no apps running 48 days until it dies.... Im actually being serious...
Angry Alt Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.09.12 14:46:00 - [80] Edited by: Angry Alt on 12/09/2007 14:46:50 Originally by: Wesley Baird Isn't the current record for windows 2000 with no apps running 48 days until it dies.... Im actually being serious... I've run win2k several months between reboots on various computers at home and work. They would have kept running too but they needed to come down at various times for various reasons (patches, defrag, HW replacement etc.) Some have ran win2k over a year. Anyway, back to your regularly unscheduled downtime!
Aphroditi	Posted - 2007.09.12 15:15:00 - [81] CCP keep the good work. The stupid bug is somewhere well hidden deep :/ (as always). I'm impressed that there are people in the middle of the night there debugging and trying to find the issues. Usualy on all other MMORPGs isn't anyone around and have to wait for the office to open in the morning :D To the whinners : Get a life. EVE is HUGE game compared with ANY other game around. A database to support 200,000+ users (30k online) will have issues. Software without bugs is a MYTH. If we combine the above with the server being is a cluster of hundred of different machines it doesn't take a lot to have a bomb. It's a miracle we have EVE running as is.
Havlentia Castigatrix The Avalon Foundation	Posted - 2007.09.12 15:38:00 - [82] Any TL:DR; previously acknowledged. Don't bother. Originally by: Aphroditi It's a miracle we have EVE running as is. As someone who works in this kind of stuff every day, with concurrent problems and 'whining' from my customers, I have to tell you that reliance on intervention by metaphysical abstract homocentric concepts is not something that we consider very often. Incidentally, we don't tend to call the complaints from customers 'whining', because they have this, I dunno, 'valid' concern that they're paying money for something that isn't available. When you contract to large manufacturing, you tend to pay penalty for the amount of time that a line is down for for lost earnings. Likewise making the excuse that this is 'just a game' trivialises the amount of recreational time invested by people. Originally by: Aphroditi EVE is HUGE game compared with ANY other game around. No, it's ambitious. It's also extremely proud of the fact that it's single shard and can handle a large number of concurrent users. Except it can't, not always. The problem is getting worse, not better, and the whole 'need for speed' has been diluted by throwing hardware at a problem that could be in the software/hardware/OS layers. We're being told that they're looking for the problem, but with no real resolution. On top of this, the database strain has been mitigated a number of times by introducing the API and deferred updates to certain tables. If the software is not up to the strain, then that needs to be fixed. If the hardware isn't up to the strain, then that needs to be fixed. That's what engineers do, we fix things. We don't cross our fingers and pray. Well, mostly not. Originally by: Aphroditi Get a life. I'm an IT consultant. This is my life. :P Look, I appreciate the effort that CCP put into this, especially from the guys at the lower end of the pay scale. I've been there at 3am watching the bootstrap come up and hoping that it'll work this time around, but in my second decade of doing this stuff I've come to appreciate the value, to my sanity if nothing else, of taking a step back and carefully following a problem through to it's conclusion, and also putting measures in place to mitigate such problems. That's why backups and UPS' exist, even if the entire industry is cutting corners on such things. Originally by: Aphroditi A database to support 200,000+ users (30k online) I have a couple of DBs with over a million users and quite a bit more than 30k online, but nothing like the sheer transactional bandwidth. This is going to be the problem. ----- This space left intentionally blank
Vrabac Amarr BALKAN EXPRESS	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:08:00 - [83] IT IS TEH DATABASE ISSUES! Now lets see how many seconds will pass before fanboys start claiming everything is cool.
Ruff Ceyx Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:10:00 - [84] Originally by: Vrabac IT IS TEH DATABASE ISSUES! Now lets see how many seconds will pass before fanboys start claiming everything is cool. Its all good! Move along people nothing to see here. -------------------------------------------
Epong Private Military Company	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:11:00 - [85] This game cool ! - Bad girl +5 and Sarcasm +5
Spectre80 Caldari The Knights Templar Pure.	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:11:00 - [86] this is ***** bull**.. again same problems.. what is the matter that is not possible to fix. my patience is growing thin. oh and btw: RABBLE!
Mr Rive Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:11:00 - [87] Originally by: XxAngelxX Originally by: Farscape Hw Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva Originally by: Farscape Hw its ok, we are getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up Keep believing that myth.. edited it, that mofo has gotten 2 officers in 2 hours..... /me goes mr rive hunting I only made around 8 bill....
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:11:00 - [88] Edited by: Lazuran on 12/09/2007 17:11:40 Wow this subject can be re-used. ;-) So, what's going on again? Borked patch, eh? But it might really help to monitor TQ more closely, it can't be that there's absolutely nothing you can do to prevent it from crashing when you see strange lag appearing etc. ... isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
zeeZ Exus Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:12:00 - [89] I swear there's a cat in the server room, eating the hamsters. Get watchdogs
IHurricane Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:12:00 - [90] Edited by: IHurricane on 12/09/2007 17:12:41 Originally by: Mr Rive Originally by: XxAngelxX Originally by: Farscape Hw Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva Originally by: Farscape Hw its ok, we are getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up Keep believing that myth.. edited it, that mofo has gotten 2 officers in 2 hours..... /me goes mr rive hunting I only made around 8 bill.... I've stopped counting the members in PL, that are saying they are going to pod you on sight ---------------------------------------
Cyno Maid	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:13:00 - [91] Originally by: IHurricane Originally by: Mr Rive Originally by: XxAngelxX Originally by: Farscape Hw Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva Originally by: Farscape Hw its ok, we are getting rich from officer spawns everytime it comes back up Keep believing that myth.. edited it, that mofo has gotten 2 officers in 2 hours..... /me goes mr rive hunting I only made around 8 bill.... I've stopped counting the mebers in PL, that are saying they are going to pod you on sight Dammit! And I just got to empire =[ No belts for me
Metaller Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:15:00 - [92] now i have to run that damn plex the third time cause of server crashes!!! rabble rabble rabble lets hope my maelstrom survived
Estoika Chonda Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:15:00 - [93] Welcome to EVE Online, the world's largest game universe, 24/7 online! --------------------------------------------------
Commander Prishe Caldari The LoneStar Corp Edge Of Sanity	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:16:00 - [94] your apoligoies are not accepted, what would be nice if some event was schedueld for next week where all rat belt/mission bounties are increased 50% for 24 hours, or give everyone 50k-100k sp to put on whatever skill they want. That would be an apology I would accept. many games ive played where they had server downtime and schedueld events for the players with increased exp for 24 hours.
Miriyana Gallente Legions of Derek	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:17:00 - [95] Originally by: Estoika Chonda Welcome to EVE Online, the world's largest game universe, 24/7 online! Not even on a good day is eve up 24 hours. - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
Irob Urore Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:17:00 - [96] awwwwwww just went out near the end of a level 4, hope the room doesnt respawn otherwise im toast. rabblerabble......oooo a cookie.
Vrabac Amarr BALKAN EXPRESS	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:18:00 - [97] Originally by: Ruff Ceyx Originally by: Vrabac IT IS TEH DATABASE ISSUES! Now lets see how many seconds will pass before fanboys start claiming everything is cool. Its all good! Move along people nothing to see here. Not bad, but you're supposed to use caps lock, few insults and the everpresent words "whiner" and "whine".
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:19:00 - [98] Originally by: Mr Rive I only made around 8 bill.... You still log into your mom's dev account to spawn officers?? --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
theteck	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:21:00 - [99] i work in sql server since 1984 and all i know if you reboot often a sql server when the bug its not fixed corrupt database occur and its a pain to resole a corrupt database
kill0rbunny Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:23:00 - [100] Originally by: Banana Torres If you meant to say uninstall MS SQL Server and use MySql on Linux then that would be a debate worth having. But you didn't. Although he didn't formulate it right he surely had a point. I pew therefore I am.
Tobizuru Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat	Posted - 2007.09.12 17:23:00 - [101] Smile! -------------------- If I only had a Face... :'( Sig Edit: Wait wtf is this?!

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