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Posted - 2007.09.25 08:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
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4. Did the US really have to get involved in WWI or WWII?
Well actually in WW2 we had to join the battle full time after zero's lightly showered our west coast. Before that strange weather pattern however we,not really as a country, but more as independent people, helped out in small ways like joining the BAF and what not.
Not to mention everything the UK had to pay the US. They had to give up property in the in the US, gold, and share all their latest millitary secrets. The US made a small fortune from it.
Well the UK got something out of it too. Spreken zie deutsch?
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Taj Zela
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Posted - 2007.09.25 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: DarkMatter
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
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4. Did the US really have to get involved in WWI or WWII?
Well actually in WW2 we had to join the battle full time after zero's lightly showered our west coast. Before that strange weather pattern however we,not really as a country, but more as independent people, helped out in small ways like joining the BAF and what not.
If the Japanese didn't make the US a more active member of the allies during World War 2, the English would not have had enough manufacturing power to take on Germany alone. The cowardly American politicans in the US seemed to their that "Fortress North America" was safe from the ****'s reach. One of the few times the US actually ended up doing the right thing in the end. Sadly, it was also the last.
It amazes me how much you hate the USA...
Sucks to live right next door eh?
Last I checked, we were on top of the pile chief. From what I read of your sexual insecurities, that must drive you freaking nuts, eh?
Thanks for all the raw materials you guys ship over here (oil, wood, ect). Glad we have a nice supply so close. By the way, I think there are more cops in NYC than canada has military.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 08:40:00 -
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One more thing to add to the US plus side. We take daily showers. Last time I was in europe I never smelled so many dirty people. Italy was the worst by far. Le Pew
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shell Guardian
Edited by: Shell Guardian on 23/09/2007 21:37:52
I was born in England and now I live in America, so here's my two cents (pence):
For those saying that crime is higher in England, it may be. But I'm damn sure fatal crimes are much lower because of the gun laws. They may be mugged, but not killed. Big difference there.
I could go on forever about how much I like England compared to the US, but I'm heavily biased. I can't be a dual citizen of the US and the UK because the US won't let me, even though they made me wait 7 years to get a green card that was actually blue.
Ironic? Yes.
Gun Laws? Crime? Sorry to tell you but the 2 aren't really correlated. Take a look at Canada with pretty light gun laws, and yet the Crime rate is low.
If gun laws force a criminal not able to buy a gun legally, he'll just end up buying one illegally. So one way or another the criminal is going to get a gun. Guns in the hands of citizens has not proved to boost criminal rates, since your standard citizen has no wish to commit a crime in the 1st place. Crime is a more linked to proverty than Gun laws.
As far as the original poster, I prefer the US style of lifestyle. Well the theoretical position of the US anyway. The US was founded on the principal of minimal government with minimal interference in your life. I don't want government to be responsible for me from cradle to grave. I want myself to be responsible for myself, and my neighbor to be responsible to his self. I don't want to pay his medical expenses, and he doesn't want to pay mine. If I practice a healthy lifestyle I shouldn't be penalized by others that did not practice disease prevention in their own lives. I don't want to pay smoker's cancer bills, illegal racers accident bills, etc. Those people made their choices in life, it's unfair to those that live a clean lifestyle to be responsible for other people in my opinion. I don't realy like any entitlement programs, like social security medicare, medicaid, etc. For lots of reasons but I would go not everyone of them :).
The US is just abit astray right now. We have increased spending, excessive borrowing, and excessive printing of money, eventually we need to get back on track. The good news is through the internet earlier generations are catching onto this fact and starting to see the faults in our current path. I hope to see vast cuts in the federal government at some point, and more state control.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
Well the UK got something out of it too. Spreken zie deutsch?
And the French helped the americans in their struggle for independance. Without them, you would still have been a English colony. Whats your point?
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Taj Zela
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:30:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: shinsushi
Well the UK got something out of it too. Spreken zie deutsch?
And the French helped the americans in their struggle for independance. Without them, you would still have been a English colony. Whats your point?
Much like canada is still a colony or India for that matter.
Yep, the french helped the US. They we'e repaid with being saved in WWI and WWII, non?
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Taj Zela
They we'e repaid with being saved in WWI WWII, non?
Oui.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: shinsushi
Well the UK got something out of it too. Spreken zie deutsch?
And the French helped the americans in their struggle for independance. Without them, you would still have been a English colony. Whats your point?
You made it sound like the UK got nothing out of it, while the evil Americans took advantage of the English. I pointed out a symbiotic exchange rather than a parasitic one.
Anyway learn you history, the English never would have won that war, just like while **** Germany would have steam rolled western Europe, Russia would have eventually beaten them, and dropping the A-bomb saved more lives than it cost (both Japanese and American lives.)
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 25/09/2007 09:40:09
Originally by: shinsushi
You made it sound like the UK got nothing out of it, while the evil Americans took advantage of the English. I pointed out a symbiotic exchange rather than a parasitic one.
You make it sound like the Americans halped Europe because they felt it was the right thing to do. The US was first very comfertable with watching Europe burn. Japanese and German agression got you into the war, not charity.
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Anyway learn you history, the English never would have won that war, just like while **** Germany would have steam rolled western Europe, Russia would have eventually beaten them, and dropping the A-bomb saved more lives than it cost (both Japanese and American lives.)
US steel made sure Russia could produce tanks, without it Russia would have been forced to surrender. A-bomb? when did that topic enter the debate?
And as far as history, most of the royal British navy was guarding the English channel as they feared france would attack England. And american ships were allowed to repair their ships in French harbours.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: shinsushi
Well the UK got something out of it too. Spreken zie deutsch?
And the French helped the americans in their struggle for independance. Without them, you would still have been a English colony. Whats your point?
You made it sound like the UK got nothing out of it, while the evil Americans took advantage of the English. I pointed out a symbiotic exchange rather than a parasitic one.
Anyway learn you history, the English never would have won that war, just like while **** Germany would have steam rolled western Europe, Russia would have eventually beaten them, and dropping the A-bomb saved more lives than it cost (both Japanese and American lives.)
This guy is right - you should listen to him.
The thing about British teeth is.... well tea.
The stereotype that we drink tea lots, it is an accurate one.
I myself drink 4 to 5 cups a day, there's a chemical in it that effects the teeth making them more yellow, cant remember it's name.
The nukes were a nessecity, no question. The Japanese rulers were preparing to arm evry man woman and child that could hold a gun and charge when the USA invaded the mainland.
At the moment gas prices are soaring - guess how we heat our water for showers and how we save a few quid each day?
About the rest of Europe I cannot speak for, nut keep in mind that Britian did have the worlds largest empire in history our previous generations have too much stock in that.
Hell I mentioned to a distant family member I was part German and he started getting smug because Germany lost WW2 - I mean what the ****?
To be honest many Brits are smart, we have huge investments in education and when we hear that creationism is taken as fact in some state schools, sorry we kinda lol at that no offence intended.
Reading Bill Bryson's "Notes from a Small Island" would be reccomended, and most of Britian getting over the Empire and stop living in the past - who cares about "independant" Britian ffs, it's become part of a larger Europe like France and Germany or become inimportant.
In conclusion we have our problems with each other but when it comes down to it we are willing to band together for each other.
Oh, and bring on the European Commonwealth!!
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Taj Zela
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Taj Zela
They we'e repaid with being saved in WWI WWII, non?
Oui.
So, what would have happened had not all the american troops came over to help in WWI? If memory serves it was around the time Russia surrendered and all the eastern german troops were free'd up to hit the western front. I also remember reading paris nearly falling and the frnech having to commendeer taxi's to rush soldiers to the front.
I thought all the fresh american troops turned the tide.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Taj Zela
Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: Taj Zela
They we'e repaid with being saved in WWI WWII, non?
Oui.
So, what would have happened had not all the american troops came over to help in WWI? If memory serves it was around the time Russia surrendered and all the eastern german troops were free'd up to hit the western front. I also remember reading paris nearly falling and the frnech having to commendeer taxi's to rush soldiers to the front.
I thought all the fresh american troops turned the tide.
Kinda ironic then that the French president at the end of WW2 thought that WW3 was coming between Europe and USA (was Canada still a domionion at this point?).
If it hadn't have been for the cold war....
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: shinsushi on 25/09/2007 10:23:43
Originally by: Death Kill
Edited by: Death Kill on 25/09/2007 09:40:09
Originally by: shinsushi
You made it sound like the UK got nothing out of it, while the evil Americans took advantage of the English. I pointed out a symbiotic exchange rather than a parasitic one.
You make it sound like the Americans halped Europe because they felt it was the right thing to do. The US was first very comfertable with watching Europe burn. Japanese and German agression got you into the war, not charity.
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Anyway learn you history, the English never would have won that war, just like while **** Germany would have steam rolled western Europe, Russia would have eventually beaten them, and dropping the A-bomb saved more lives than it cost (both Japanese and American lives.)
US steel made sure Russia could produce tanks, without it Russia would have been forced to surrender. A-bomb? when did that topic enter the debate?
And as far as history, most of the royal British navy was guarding the English channel as they feared france would attack England. And american ships were allowed to repair their ships in French harbours.
No, you started out characterizing American involvement in the early stages of WWII as profiteering. I only responded after your comment. You have made it sound as if the United States was not involved in WW I aswell, when 4 million American citizens were drafted, our mercantile vessels re-outfitted, and we sent 10,000 troops a day, to help win the war.Not to mention it was due in large part to European idiocy that WWII even happened. The US was not comfortable watching Europe burn, most of the population wanted to get involved but thanks for painting my culture that way.
Where the hell are you getting the figures for American steel going to Russia for tanks? I know that the handbook "The economy of USSR in 1941-45" doesn't agree with you.
France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being *****s to the whole world.
EDIT: Fixed some grammar.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Taj Zela
So, what would have happened had not all the american troops came over to help in WWI? If memory serves it was around the time Russia surrendered and all the eastern german troops were free'd up to hit the western front. I also remember reading paris nearly falling and the frnech having to commendeer taxi's to rush soldiers to the front.
I thought all the fresh american troops turned the tide.
Not really. Ww1 was just a stallmate where all sides sendt troops to die in a massive meat grinder. Neither side were able to hit eachothers factories etc etc. Basically millions died on a relative small area.
Just take a look at the casualties list and you get a very good indicator of how it was. Preussia didnt surrender due to any decisive victory like in other wars.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
No, you started out characterizing American involvement in the early stages of WWII as profiteering. I only responded after your comment. You have made it sound as if the United States was not involved in WW I aswell, when 4 million American citizens were drafted, our mercantile vessels re-outfitted, and we sent 10,000 troops a day, to help win the war.
Yes I did. America was happy with staying out of Europe as they did business with the ****s. Yes the US helped during WW1 but WW1 would have ended anyways as neither sides could really afford such casualties.
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Not to mention it was due in large part to European idiocy that WWII even happened. The US was not comfortable watching Europe burn, most of the population wanted to get involved but thanks for painting my culture that way.
America was having an isolationistic policy at that time, they refered to the war as 'Europes war' and had no intention of joining.
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Where the hell are you getting the figures for American steel going to Russia for tanks? I know that the handbook "The economy of USSR in 1941-45" doesn't agree with you.
Oh I dont knw the fact that Russia was in desperate need of steel? Ever heard about the huge convoys going from the US to Russia with raw materials to help the russian army build the units needed to fight germany? ever heard about the uboat wars? the evolution of destroyers and subs?
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France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being *****s to the whole world.
Kinda like the US today innit?
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: shinsushi
No, you started out characterizing American involvement in the early stages of WWII as profiteering. I only responded after your comment. You have made it sound as if the United States was not involved in WW I aswell, when 4 million American citizens were drafted, our mercantile vessels re-outfitted, and we sent 10,000 troops a day, to help win the war.
Yes I did. America was happy with staying out of Europe as they did business with the ****s. Yes the US helped during WW1 but WW1 would have ended anyways as neither sides could really afford such casualties.
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Not to mention it was due in large part to European idiocy that WWII even happened. The US was not comfortable watching Europe burn, most of the population wanted to get involved but thanks for painting my culture that way.
America was having an isolationistic policy at that time, they refered to the war as 'Europes war' and had no intention of joining.
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Where the hell are you getting the figures for American steel going to Russia for tanks? I know that the handbook "The economy of USSR in 1941-45" doesn't agree with you.
Oh I dont knw the fact that Russia was in desperate need of steel? Ever heard about the huge convoys going from the US to Russia with raw materials to help the russian army build the units needed to fight germany? ever heard about the uboat wars? the evolution of destroyers and subs?
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France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being *****s to the whole world.
Kinda like the US today innit?
I am glad your true colors are showing. Ok, so my first hand knowledge of speaking with people here and at the 60th anniversary of D-Day ceremony at Normandy is trumped by your prejudice and biased opinion.... Ever spoken with WWII vets? Ever had them come up to you, shake your hand and thank you when you know damn well they have sacrificed 100 times what you have? STFU.
Hey, who sends more relief aid out in troops and money than the UN? Which country spearheads operations to stop genocide in the third world? I'll give ya a hint, its no one in Europe. Keep your ignorant elitism to yourself, the United States has done more for to relieve pain and suffering in the world than any other Super-power ever. Hey wasn't Britan like this horrible tyranical super-power that never gave anything back in it's day? How about France? Italy, Germany. The United States has been the most benevolent world leader in history, a fact you cannot dispute.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Death Kill
Originally by: shinsushi
No, you started out characterizing American involvement in the early stages of WWII as profiteering. I only responded after your comment. You have made it sound as if the United States was not involved in WW I aswell, when 4 million American citizens were drafted, our mercantile vessels re-outfitted, and we sent 10,000 troops a day, to help win the war.
Yes I did. America was happy with staying out of Europe as they did business with the ****s. Yes the US helped during WW1 but WW1 would have ended anyways as neither sides could really afford such casualties.
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Not to mention it was due in large part to European idiocy that WWII even happened. The US was not comfortable watching Europe burn, most of the population wanted to get involved but thanks for painting my culture that way.
America was having an isolationistic policy at that time, they refered to the war as 'Europes war' and had no intention of joining.
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Where the hell are you getting the figures for American steel going to Russia for tanks? I know that the handbook "The economy of USSR in 1941-45" doesn't agree with you.
Oh I dont knw the fact that Russia was in desperate need of steel? Ever heard about the huge convoys going from the US to Russia with raw materials to help the russian army build the units needed to fight germany? ever heard about the uboat wars? the evolution of destroyers and subs?
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France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being *****s to the whole world.
Kinda like the US today innit?
I am glad your true colors are showing. Ok, so my first hand knowledge of speaking with people here and at the 60th anniversary of D-Day ceremony at Normandy is trumped by your prejudice and biased opinion.... Ever spoken with WWII vets? Ever had them come up to you, shake your hand and thank you when you know damn well they have sacrificed 100 times what you have? STFU.
Hey, who sends more relief aid out in troops and money than the UN? Which country spearheads operations to stop genocide in the third world? I'll give ya a hint, its no one in Europe. Keep your ignorant elitism to yourself, the United States has done more for to relieve pain and suffering in the world than any other Super-power ever. Hey wasn't Britan like this horrible tyranical super-power that never gave anything back in it's day? How about France? Italy, Germany. The United States has been the most benevolent world leader in history, a fact you cannot dispute.
lol: relief aid in troops. LAAAWL. MegaLAAWL. sending in troops to help a situation the Us started by handing Iraq to mister ba'aath in the first place. after they let bagdad out to dry in the first gulf war. The US generally creates its own problems to 'relieve' these days. I agree that empire building is repressive, but there is only one country doing it in the 20th and 21st century: the US. Europe had its imperialistic phase: we ended that with the modern age. US is just getting started. you actually BUY that iraqi freedom horse****?
So now I'm disputing you mister benevolent. Post with your main btw.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
I am glad your true colors are showing. Ok, so my first hand knowledge of speaking with people here and at the 60th anniversary of D-Day ceremony at Normandy is trumped by your prejudice and biased opinion.... Ever spoken with WWII vets? Ever had them come up to you, shake your hand and thank you when you know damn well they have sacrificed 100 times what you have? STFU.
I had family memebers captured and tortured by the Gestapo. I dont need any lectures from a blind patriot unwilling to see throgh the history written in the 'glory days' after WW2.
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Hey, who sends more relief aid out in troops and money than the UN? Which country spearheads operations to stop genocide in the third world? I'll give ya a hint, its no one in Europe.
Wich country has started most of the wars since the 50's? Witch country has assasinated state leaders, backed millitary despots to come into power resulting in genocide? (chile/Iraq)
what country bombs people from far away while calling themselves brave? I'll give you a hint, its no one in europe.
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Keep your ignorant elitism to yourself, the United States has done more for to relieve pain and suffering in the world than any other Super-power ever.
I wonder what the people that had napalm rain over them felt. Or the civillians in Iraq that are machine gunned down by privatly owned 'security' personell who come to Iraq to profit from the suffering of others.
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Hey wasn't Britan like this horrible tyranical super-power that never gave anything back in it's day? How about France? Italy, Germany. .
If your only argument is that Europeans have been bad too, then its hardly a counter to the evils of the only superpower, in my opinion
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:53:00 -
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where is bin laden?
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill[quote
France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being *****s to the whole world.
Kinda like the US today innit?
That is kind of true, but there allways has to be the biggest bastard right?
Give it a few years and the title will go to another country, US is on the decline in global importance.
The term superpower may even go into misuse as the term Great power is redefined to include India China USA and EU.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Royaldo
where is bin laden?
Personaly I keep him in my wheely bin and feed him on bush trimmings.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 11:15:00 -
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no seriously.
how much money has been spent trying to find him?
and have you found him?
now i know 1/5 from usa cant find usa on a map. so i guess its no wonder why
you cant find him.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop
Originally by: Death Kill[quote
France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being *****s to the whole world.
Kinda like the US today innit?
That is kind of true, but there allways has to be the biggest bastard right?
Give it a few years and the title will go to another country, US is on the decline in global importance.
The term superpower may even go into misuse as the term Great power is redefined to include India China USA and EU.
All true.
I forgot one comment to the previous poster though
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The United States has been the most benevolent world leader in history, a fact you cannot dispute.
Thats partially true, it all depends on if you are on the receiving end of a cruise missile.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 11:37:00 -
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So what are all you USA haters going to do exactly?
Sit and b!tch some more?
Jesus you guys cry a lot...
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Posted - 2007.09.25 11:41:00 -
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so where is he darkmatter? where is bin laden?
why are you not able to find him?
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Posted - 2007.09.25 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter
So what are all you USA haters going to do exactly?
Sit and b!tch some more?
Jesus you guys cry a lot...
Eh?
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Posted - 2007.09.25 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatter on 25/09/2007 11:57:09
Originally by: Royaldo
so where is he darkmatter? where is bin laden?
why are you not able to find him?
Pakistan is not helping much...
It's a sorry state of affairs when the Pakistan army doesn't have free reign over it's own territory. (What is it with these ME countries where religion comes before all else, where clerics mean more than government & the military?)
We could most certainly take a bunch of troops into Pakistan and eventually find him like we did *******. However, we would lose whatever little help we are getting from the Pakistan military in the future...
And even if we did find him and kill him, he would just be replaced, probably by someone younger, and even better at terrorism than he...
And quite frankly, finding him is really not the top priority. It's not like once we find him, terrorism ends...
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Posted - 2007.09.25 12:01:00 -
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what is top priority then? besides siegeing small countries with oil reserves?
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Posted - 2007.09.25 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Royaldo
what is top priority then? besides siegeing small countries with oil reserves?
Methodically invading any ME country whose government supports terrorism with money & cannon fodder. Replacing that government with some form of system other than a tyrannical dictatorship in the hopes all ME people someday can rise out from under the thumb of these extreme clerics and their misguided teachings of Islam.
We have Syria and Iran to take care of, and Pakistan eventually once the pro US government is disposed of, which will probably happen soon...
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Posted - 2007.09.25 12:09:00 -
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and you do know that pakistan got some of them big guns right?
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