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Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.25 14:54:00 - [211] Originally by: Cornucopian here, check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Zubkov Viktor Zubkov Took me under 10 seconds to notice whats wrong with that. No political party??? His daughter married to the deffence minister. He himself the man responsable to investigate money laundering in a mob ridden corrupt government?? We are in deep ** now. Originally by:** CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
Warp away ITS A CIRCUS	Posted - 2007.09.25 15:08:00 - [212] u ppl r 2 smart. Heir, haev sum beer
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.25 15:09:00 - [213] Originally by: Warp away u ppl r 2 smart. Heir, haev sum beer Sorry - I'm underage Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:32:00 - [214] Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: Jago Kain OK, so the USA was late for WWI and WWII... fair comment, even Britain was late joinging in WWII and only came in for the same reason as the USA; enlightened self-interest. Didnt Britain and France declear war on Germany when Germany invaded Poland? True. It's also true that Britain and France earlier sat on their hands whilst He who shall not get past the filter's minions rolled over the Sudetenland, in an effort to appease Germany and not be next on the list... didn't work out too well that one, particularly not for the French. We (the UK) also ignored the 2nd Sino-Japanese War which started in 1937, only declaring against Japan after Pearl Harbour. Was there a point you were trying to make? I'm unclear what you're getting at. Surely you weren't going to tell me that UK/USA involvement in the war was anything other than self-preservation? The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:38:00 - [215] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: Jago Kain OK, so the USA was late for WWI and WWII... fair comment, even Britain was late joinging in WWII and only came in for the same reason as the USA; enlightened self-interest. Didnt Britain and France declear war on Germany when Germany invaded Poland? True. It's also true that Britain and France earlier sat on their hands whilst He who shall not get past the filter's minions rolled over the Sudetenland, in an effort to appease Germany and not be next on the list... didn't work out too well that one, particularly not for the French. We (the UK) also ignored the 2nd Sino-Japanese War which started in 1937, only declaring against Japan after Pearl Harbour. Was there a point you were trying to make? I'm unclear what you're getting at. Surely you weren't going to tell me that UK/USA involvement in the war was anything other than self-preservation? The Japanese were openly attacking British positions in Asia well before open war was declared. Hong Kong is a notorious example of this. Than there was that hospital staffed by nuns who were raped, murdered along-side their Commonwealth Army protection.
hattifnatt Gallente The Movement	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:42:00 - [216] US supports the military dictatorship in pakistan afaik. (hence its not on the 'to invade list') Originally by: Nicholas Barker i tackled somebody in the middle of nowhere, and told them i wouldn't leave untill they stripped on web cam. Who wants the video?
mama guru Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2007.09.25 20:58:00 - [217] Most of us Europeans and more specifically us scandinavians kinda bought into the principle of solidarity, the fundumental cornerstone of Socialism. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." "Communism deprives no man of the ability to appropriate the fruits of his labour. The only thing it deprives him of is the ability to enslave others by means of such appropriations." "Democracy is the road to socialism." -Karl Marx The USA kinda bought these ones instead: "In bourgeois(read. capitalist) society capital is independent and has individuality, while the living person is dependent and has no individuality." "Landlords, like all other men, love to reap where they never sowed." "Sell a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man how to fish, you ruin a wonderful business opportunity." -Karl Marx This is why we win. Also this thread is stupid. -YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE- EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:32:00 - [218] Originally by: hattifnatt US supports the military dictatorship in pakistan afaik. (hence its not on the 'to invade list') ...This week The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Cornucopian Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:33:00 - [219] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: hattifnatt US supports the military dictatorship in pakistan afaik. (hence its not on the 'to invade list') ...This week QFT. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.09.25 21:49:00 - [220] Quote: Also this thread is stupid. How stupid does that make you for posting in it then? My Current Project
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:04:00 - [221] Edited by: shinsushi on 25/09/2007 23:05:44 Originally by: Death Kill I had family memebers captured and tortured by the Gestapo. I dont need any lectures from a blind patriot unwilling to see throgh the history written in the 'glory days' after WW2. Once again, I have spoken with both American and European soldiers at the 60th anniversary of D-Day in Normandy. Many of my relatives fought, and some died, in WWII. Your full of **, I am calling you on it. Quote: Wich country has started most of the wars since the 50's? Witch country has assasinated state leaders, backed millitary despots to come into power resulting in genocide? (chile/Iraq) Misdirection, that means you have no counter to my original arguement doesn't it? The United States has been in the Korean War, the Vietnem War, and Middle-Eastern wars (I and II) since the 50s. Oh, and all countries invlove themselves in third world politics. Didn't France support Iraq after the US denounced them for attrocities? How about south Africa, or India, Hong Kong, or.. (the list will go on for quite a while.) Anyway, Norway doesn't really involve themselves in anything because they are insignificant on the world stage. Quote: what country bombs people from far away while calling themselves brave? I'll give you a hint, its no one in europe. Wow, so using weapons available to us makes what difference? Quote: I wonder what the people that had napalm rain over them felt. Or the civillians in Iraq that are machine gunned down by privatly owned 'security' personell who come to Iraq to profit from the suffering of others. Lol, Eurpean companies are just as involved as American ones. You have been profiting on the suffering of others since history began, along with all developed nations. This is a non-point, an appeal to emotion rather than reason. Quote: If your only argument is that Europeans have been bad too, then its hardly a counter to the evils of the only superpower, in my opinion It seems like I have brought up multiple arguments, and you have fallen short on all of them. I will be the first to admit that the United States is not perfect, but neither or you. What have you done to shape the world today? I fought for what I believed in, and would gladly do it again. You are a monday-mourning quarterback with all the answers and no real-life experience to draw from. A spoiled product of an envious culture and one thats guilty of just as much scape-goating as the one you damn now. You are a hypocrite looking for anyway to feel good about your lack of action, and guilt compels you to blame someone for acting. Your a piece of **.
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:07:00 - [222] Originally by: shinsushi Edited by: shinsushi on 25/09/2007 23:05:44 Originally by: Death Kill I had family memebers captured and tortured by the Gestapo. I dont need any lectures from a blind patriot unwilling to see throgh the history written in the 'glory days' after WW2. Once again, I have spoken with both American and European soldiers at the 60th anniversary of D-Day in Normandy. Many of my relatives fought, and some died, in WWII. Your full of **, I am calling you on it. Quote: Wich country has started most of the wars since the 50's? Witch country has assasinated state leaders, backed millitary despots to come into power resulting in genocide? (chile/Iraq) Misdirection, that means you have no counter to my original arguement doesn't it? The United States has been in the Korean War, the Vietnem War, and Middle-Eastern wars (I and II) since the 50s. Oh, and all countries invlove themselves in third world politics. Didn't France support Iraq after the US denounced them for attrocities? How about south Africa, or India, Hong Kong, or.. (the list will go on for quite a while.) Anyway, Norway doesn't really involve themselves in anything because they are insignificant on the world stage. Quote: what country bombs people from far away while calling themselves brave? I'll give you a hint, its no one in europe. Wow, so using weapons available to us makes what difference? Quote: I wonder what the people that had napalm rain over them felt. Or the civillians in Iraq that are machine gunned down by privatly owned 'security' personell who come to Iraq to profit from the suffering of others. Lol, Eurpean companies are just as involved as American ones. You have been profiting on the suffering of others since history began, along with all developed nations. This is a non-point, an appeal to emotion rather than reason. Quote: If your only argument is that Europeans have been bad too, then its hardly a counter to the evils of the only superpower, in my opinion It seems like I have brought up multiple arguments, and you have fallen short on all of them. I will be the first to admit that the United States is not perfect, but neither or you. What have you done to shape the world today? I fought for what I believed in, and would gladly do it again. You are a monday-mourning quarterback with all the answers and no real-life experience to draw from. A spoiled product of an envious culture and one thats guilty of just as much scape-goating as the one you damn now. You are a hypocrite looking for anyway to feel good about your lack of action, and guilt compels you to blame someone for acting. Your a piece of **. I'd advise you not to waste your keystrokes on DK... My Current Project
shinsushi	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:13:00 - [223] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: shinsushi Edited by: shinsushi on 25/09/2007 23:05:44 Hulk smash I'd advise you not to waste your keystrokes on DK... Your probably right. I take my leave of this thread and politics on these boards.
Ademaro Imre Caldari Eye of God	Posted - 2007.09.26 02:39:00 - [224] Originally by: hattifnatt US supports the military dictatorship in pakistan afaik. (hence its not on the 'to invade list') So - what countries then are ursupring the dictatorship then? Or, are you supporting 'Bin Labden's efforts to topple it?
Thorliaron	Posted - 2007.09.26 03:10:00 - [225] Originally by: Kirjava Heres something for a bit of perspective that I mentioned earlier. In 40 years Putin, Bush, Brown and BinLaden will all probably have died of old age. Yet many of us (Im guessing most people here are under 25?) will be coming towards how old they are now. We may spend Billions on finding and killing people in pursuit of a need for people who want us dead to die, but ultimatly we all die of age and then it won't matter anymore. Does the thousands that died for Nappoleon realy matter to us? Will the millions that died in WW2 matter in 30 years if we continue as we do? Some of us here wont reach 30/40's as WW3 will be happening, i say 'some' because there are a lot of armchair soldiers,generals and patriots who are contempt to sit on a online spaceship fourm and allow other countrymen to die for a cause their so fanatical about...ie 'the war on terror', why dont you stfu and sign up and go out there and shoot yourself some al-queda.
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.26 06:46:00 - [226] Edited by: Death Kill on 26/09/2007 06:47:57 Originally by: shinsushi Once again, I have spoken with both American and European soldiers at the 60th anniversary of D-Day in Normandy. Many of my relatives fought, and some died, in WWII. And is this some type of argument? Whats your point? Quote: Your full of **, I am calling you on it. Oh noes! Quote: Misdirection, that means you have no counter to my original arguement doesn't it? Yes I do. You portrait the US as some loving carebear caring for everyone and never does any harm to anyone witch is a blatant lie. The amount of sceletons you got in your closet is amazing, your ignorance of history is even more amazing. Quote: The United States has been in the Korean War, the Vietnem War, and Middle-Eastern wars (I and II) since the 50s. Oh, and all countries invlove themselves in third world politics. Didn't France support Iraq after the US denounced them for attrocities? 1. I think you need to work on your definiition of support. 2. Saying that others may have been bad too isnt a good argument. 3. Attrocoties? Who put ** into power, who sold Iraq tons of weapons in the past. Oh snap the US did. Quote: Anyway, Norway doesn't really involve themselves in anything because they are insignificant on the world stage. Yes we do. We try to negotiate peace between nations that are in conflict. Unlike you who run around being world police bombing people we give people aid and ask them to calm down. You run around with a big stick, we carry an olive branch. Your mentality "we are big , we are strong grrrrrr" belongs in the previous millenia. Quote: Wow, so using weapons available to us makes what difference? It makes all the difference in the world when you pat your self on the back and pretend to be brave. Especially when your solsiers run amok in Iraq raping and killing civillians. Quote: Lol, Eurpean companies are just as involved as American ones. You have been profiting on the suffering of others since history began, along with all developed nations. This is a non-point, an appeal to emotion rather than reason. Not really. Quote: It seems like I have brought up multiple arguments, and you have fallen short on all of them. Why, because you say so? You use classical fox News rethoric. America the brave, spreading freedom to the world (by using cruise missiles) and only evil communists are against us. THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM!!! Better take a good look at yourself buddy, there is a reason for why the US is the least populat country in the west, and theres a reason to why a huge part of the world dislikes you. You may chose to belive its because the world is evil and they hate you for your freedom, but thats just another example of american ignorance. Quote: What have you done to shape the world today? Each day I enter a phoneboth and change into a superhero costume, then I save the world. Quote: I fought for what I believed in, and would gladly do it again. You are a monday-mourning quarterback with all the answers and no real-life experience to draw from. A spoiled product of an envious culture and one thats guilty of just as much scape-goating as the one you damn now. You are a hypocrite looking for anyway to feel good about your lack of action, and guilt compels you to blame someone for acting. Your a piece of **. An american calling me spoiled, with no life experience? LOL! I fell of my chair laughing. You mention culture, what culture do you have? You live in a degenerated society where your heroes are people singing about hoes, dollars, lexus and girls dressing as prostitutes. Do you have any idea of how much of an irony overload your reply was? Keep on calling others spoiled while you continue to consume most of the planets resources you vicious piece of jelly. Call to arms!!!
hattifnatt Gallente The Movement	Posted - 2007.09.26 06:52:00 - [227] Thread over Death Kill won! Originally by: Nicholas Barker i tackled somebody in the middle of nowhere, and told them i wouldn't leave untill they stripped on web cam. Who wants the video?
Mindless Slave	Posted - 2007.09.26 07:57:00 - [228] Edited by: Mindless Slave on 26/09/2007 07:57:43 Edited by: Mindless Slave on 26/09/2007 07:57:27 Deathkill = asshat. If you think American culture = rap then???
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.09.26 10:22:00 - [229] Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/09/2007 10:22:32 Originally by: hattifnatt Thread over Death Kill won! Why? Because he hates the USA? He can get in line tbfh... The USA is not going to change it's ways because of world opinion, sorry... My Current Project
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.26 10:44:00 - [230] Originally by: Thorliaron Originally by: Kirjava Heres something for a bit of perspective that I mentioned earlier. In 40 years Putin, Bush, Brown and BinLaden will all probably have died of old age. Yet many of us (Im guessing most people here are under 25?) will be coming towards how old they are now. We may spend Billions on finding and killing people in pursuit of a need for people who want us dead to die, but ultimatly we all die of age and then it won't matter anymore. Does the thousands that died for Nappoleon realy matter to us? Will the millions that died in WW2 matter in 30 years if we continue as we do? Some of us here wont reach 30/40's as WW3 will be happening, i say 'some' because there are a lot of armchair soldiers,generals and patriots who are contempt to sit on a online spaceship fourm and allow other countrymen to die for a cause their so fanatical about...ie 'the war on terror', why dont you stfu and sign up and go out there and shoot yourself some al-queda. I would love to - however I am not of miliary age so cannot sighn up for the Army, or my personal prefference for what I am trying to get a carrer in , naval enginearing. Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
Cosy Porandor	Posted - 2007.09.26 10:47:00 - [231] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/09/2007 10:22:32 Originally by: hattifnatt Thread over Death Kill won! Why? Because he hates the USA? He can get in line tbfh... The USA is not going to change it's ways because of world opinion, sorry... hope USA never change will be a example for other ppl and because u never change paying for placing military base like on cold war US started a cold war II congratz use h.264 code for your video and like that help eve-files
Doctor Funcleroy	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:13:00 - [232] Originally by: Cosy Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/09/2007 10:22:32 Originally by: hattifnatt Thread over Death Kill won! Why? Because he hates the USA? He can get in line tbfh... The USA is not going to change it's ways because of world opinion, sorry... hope USA never change will be a example for other ppl and because u never change paying for placing military base like on cold war US started a cold war II congratz USA might change of world opinion. If the world decides it dosen't want to trade with the US because their people beleive they shoulden't then good luck USA on an isolationist policy.
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:15:00 - [233] Originally by: Cosy Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/09/2007 10:22:32 Originally by: hattifnatt Thread over Death Kill won! Why? Because he hates the USA? He can get in line tbfh... The USA is not going to change it's ways because of world opinion, sorry... hope USA never change will be a example for other ppl and because u never change paying for placing military base like on cold war US started a cold war II congratz France, Germany, UK... They all changed either due to war or internal pressure. Why should we be any different? Why should we listen to you? You didn't listen... I guess you'll have to go to war with us to change us... You don't change countries with words, you change them with bullets... My Current Project
Doctor Funcleroy	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:18:00 - [234] Originally by: DarkMatter You don't change countries with words, you change them with bullets... Spot on. The main reason why USA is the West's most unpopular country. Norway is the way forwards.
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:21:00 - [235] Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/09/2007 11:23:38 Originally by: Doctor Funcleroy Originally by: DarkMatter You don't change countries with words, you change them with bullets... Spot on. The main reason why USA is the West's most unpopular country. Norway is the way forwards. France, Germany, UK & USA, all want Iran to change. You think words & sanctions are going to change a damn thing? You're clueless if you think they will... If those 4 countries are serious about changing Iran, guess what? It's going to take bullets... Step up to the f'ing plate & grow a pair... They can talk for decades while Iran builds up a nuclear arsenal... My Current Project
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:24:00 - [236] Originally by: DarkMatter The USA is not going to change it's ways because of world opinion, sorry... And thats why hardly anyone likes you anymore. The world comunity ask that you stop acting like jerks, but you refuse to because you dont care about world opinion. So instead you turn death into profit, killing into a business. Call to arms!!!
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:28:00 - [237] Iran is the exception, but countries that are dependant on trade to survive should have blockades and trade barriers impossed before actual military action beyond enforcing the above. The coalition already straddels Iran on two sides and has a massive navy task force in the Gulf, not much is going to get through that. Ultimatly the US is perceived as triggerhappy and more than willing to invade a country for it's own intrests. Norway is small, neutral and can talk to both Iran and USA and negotiate things over as opposed to having their leader preaching how evil Iran is, that they are part of the "axis of evil", his undeclared "war of terror" that surprises him when people wage war back. Negotiations where you gain and lose nothing should be the standpoint of the US as the top superpower of the moment, doing the approach Norway has get's your country respect and from their a chance of changing things without needing the bullets apart from as a show that "yes, we do have weapons to defend ourselves should something happen". Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:34:00 - [238] Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/09/2007 11:36:30 Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/09/2007 11:35:26 Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: DarkMatter The USA is not going to change it's ways because of world opinion, sorry... And thats why hardly anyone likes you anymore. The world comunity ask that you stop acting like jerks, but you refuse to because you dont care about world opinion. So instead you turn death into profit, killing into a business. Did your forefathers change due to "opinion"? Did Britain? France? Germany? NO! None of them did... They changed for a multitude of other reasons, not because other countries didn't like them, boo hoo... This is the one thing liberals can never understand, talk is f'ing cheap! It's useless when things actually need to get done... My Current Project
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:40:00 - [239] Actualy many of the above did change due to opinion. Opinion that the Empires were dispicable, they were dismantled. Opinion that the certain german party that shall not be seen through this filter made my forefathers leave Germany to Britian. Opinion that the people of the British Colonies were being exploited made them change to become the USA. The opinion was taken on, and they were allowed to be their own country, remember Canada was invaded in 1812 and the empire was back in Washington, but we withdrew, we changed. Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:40:00 - [240] Edited by: Death Kill on 26/09/2007 11:41:52 Originally by: DarkMatter This is the one thing liberals can never understand, talk is f'ing cheap! It's useless when things actually need to get done... I'm not a liberal I'm actually conservative. But you wont even know the difference between a liberal and a conservative if you read the definition 100 times. Did you know that Eisenhower was a liberal? Quote: None of them did... They changed for a multitude of other reasons, not because other countries didn't like them, boo hoo... Right. They didnt, back in medival times, colonial times. guess what, we live in the modern age, the information age. so stop acting like a dinosaur and take a step into the modern, civilised comunity. Call to arms!!!

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