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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.02.25 19:52:00 -
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If you may recall, our dear Presidio was bragging about killing a Tempest, namely Jakal.
Today, as we always do, when someone dies, we get a description of how, and then taunt them about it for a week or two.
So, heres how Presidio killed Jakal.
Jakal is bored. He is in BKG system, and wants to fight. Presidio agrees to a 1v1.
Jakal & Presidio gangs up, and warp to a spot and go at it. Ill use Jakals own words;
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Last night I logged on after a day of playing eve and doing nothing at all. I was bored and wanted to fight. I ASKED some one if they wanted to fight.
I invited presido into a gang, he warped to me, i locked him, webbed him and started shooting and he locked me, webbed and warpscambled me and shot, i launched drones. i notice he isnt in my gang anymore. I start MWD way for 30 secs, i get to 8km and his scorp is at 30% of his armor/ hull bar, when 4 more PA warp in. they target jam me and then have my shields down. i am very very warp sctammbled and my armor is going down fast. so i self-destruct, and warp out in my pod.
So, heres the GRAND kill Presidio was bragging about in the now locked thread, feel proud mate.
I'll say this just once, and i mean it.
You will never, ever, in any corp, wherever you go, whatever you do, be taken off our target list. That is the most lamest stunt i ever heard.
Frankly my dear, got to ****.
Reap what you sow.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.02.25 19:54:00 -
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anytime anywhere presidio
you an me
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:01:00 -
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Did you know that it's a legitimate tactic if certain 'Bounty Hunter corporations' would do that.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Nex
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Nex on 25/02/2004 20:08:11
a legitimate tactic to call out for 1on1 and then call in corp members ?
i call this trying to get a kill in a dirty way because you arent able to get it in any other way, its poor and i dont want to say more because i usualy dont like smacktalk...but this...
well have phun with the feeling presidio - we will meet sometimes I promise
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Havocide
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:09:00 -
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there are no rules in war
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Flatliner
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:13:00 -
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Even the C.A did not pull any ghay tricks like this, ever!.
I've seen more honour in a pirate corp than these muppets.
The PA should never be taken off our KOS list.
Flatliner.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:13:00 -
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Quote:
Name: Presidio
Security Status: 0.9
Corporation: Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Ship Type: Scorpion
Name: Stigit
Security Status: 0.2
Corporation: Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Ship Type: Scorpion
Name: Hasan
Security Status: 0.4
Corporation: InfiniCorp
Ship Type: Raven
Name: CHASTITY TITE (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 0.0
Corporation: InfiniCorp
Ship Type: Moa
Weapon Type: Inferno Torpedo I
Name: Trader Joe
Security Status: 0.0
Corporation: InfiniCorp
Ship Type: Vigil
I'd be ashamed to fly beside any of those pilots ever.
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Nex
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:14:00 -
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there are no rules in war
well i totally agree but 1on1 isnt war, its a duel..a tournament..usualy..
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Omniwar on 25/02/2004 20:35:18
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there are no rules in war
Aggred duel isnt war its a fight with rules, rules wich include only 2 pilots and sometimes aggred to stop before explotion of ship or pod.
This stunt was very lame to say the least, but this shows how the self declared good guys usually feel the need of lame stupid tricks to succed.
Spawn of the Devil
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:37:00 -
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So you invited a pilot you were at war with (and as you would say kicking their arse) in a friendly duel and expect him to show up alone 
Did you know if you put a little hat on a snowball it can last a long time in hell
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Zenst
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:37:00 -
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It is indeed a shame you cant trust an honest 1v1, especialy during war. Some corps and people will give you an honest 1v1 and I have had a few with pirates and they have been fair. Even when had fellow friends in the system I stayed in gang and had a fair fight. But thats me.
I wouldn't blame the whole PA for the actions of a few desperate men after a kill during a war. Though being in a sytem 3 jumps from anybody else is alot safer. But I bet you wouldn;t even get the fight then. The only people I know in the PA are people in the Wolf Brigade and I'm sure they would honour a 1v1.
Other tricks to look out for in 1v1's are:
a) logged of peeps
b) gang warping to his buddies at a planet/moon
c) he is in a pod and sitting in nasty NPC belt or gangwarps you to one
Bottom line its a shame but it was war, though IMHO was very low to twist the truth about the kill, let alone brag about it given the facts. For me that is the sadest part about this whole event.
Well best of luck in your fights and lots of fun to both sides.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:40:00 -
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Deathwing > a stigit is here
Deathwing > hey stigit, how was the 5v1 yesterday with jakal? when he was in a 1v1 with presidio
Stigit > little lop sided but I did congradulate him because he was winning before I should up
Deathwing > so why would you interfere in a 1v1?
Stigit > Because He had set presideo in a trap himself it wasnt a fair 1v1
Deathwing > how is 1v1 not fair?
Deathwing > there was only jakal and presidio
Deathwing > what wasnt fair?
bUBbLeS dONkeY > cAKe vs cAKe = fair
Deathwing > tell me pls
Stigit > Jakal and presideo and already fought a little Jakal new that presideo only had long range so he set up a short range trap
Deathwing > um
Deathwing > presidio only carries one kind of ammo?
Stigit > he challenged him knowing that he had to warp wiithin 15k of him
Deathwing > you realise how lame your argument is here
Stigit > I dont know
Deathwing > let me break it down for you
Deathwing > now just sit here and listen a second
Stigit > It is :)
Stigit > dont have to
Deathwing > Jakal challenged Presidio
Deathwing > it is irrelivent if jakal knew he had a long range setup loaded atm, because Presidio still accepted the challenge
Deathwing > Presidio knowingly went into the challenge
Deathwing > and got tooled over
Stigit > im just making it so I can sleep at night it doesnt haev to be logical
Deathwing > and called for help like a *****
Deathwing > then goes on the forums, bragging like he is king **** of the worls
Deathwing > world*
Stigit > he didnt call for help it was all a setup
Deathwing > but wait
Deathwing > you said that Jakal was the one who set the trap
Stigit > i know we played a mean trick
Deathwing > no you didnt
Stigit > I was playin bud
Deathwing > you played the role of a****get
Deathwing > and you know it
Stigit > Im not calling anyone names
Deathwing > sorry to bust your nuts, but you know it was bull****, and you still went allong with it
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 25/02/2004 20:53:33
Hmmmm..
Oberon incorporated fully believes in the sanctity of the 1v1 challenge. I see it as the one true test of someones word in game. However, I also believe in the old saying "all is fair in love and war".
Did anyone save the chat of the 1v1 challenge/acceptance?
I would like to see that.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 25/02/2004 21:06:15
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there are no rules in war
You can lose a ship, get another, and then come back.
You can lose a war and recover to get back.
But when you lose your honour and respect like this, you'll NEVER get it back.
*edit*
On a sidenote, I've only fought a fight like that once (long time ago).
Against Radogor from RUS. We were both in scorpions.
He had a friend in a Tempest in the system.
I had 2 friends in cruisers(blackbird) in the system.
All went just fine, and we couldn't kill each other since I was fitted for jamming and he was fitted as a tank.
No ships lossed at all, but both won alot of respect.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2004.02.25 20:55:00 -
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Hmm...
When I was trapped behind enemy lines in fountain (whom we were at war with) I agreed to a one on one and we fought a good fight. He could have ganked me like this guy got ganked in the above example but he didn't. He had me target jammed and was blasting away with missiles. I ran out of FoF's so I warped away and announced in local that my oponent (although never dropping my shields below 75%)had honorably won the fight. For my chivilrous act i was allowed to leave fountain unmolested.
No my good citizens of Eve, this was a dishonorable act no matter how you slice it.
Jhered Out!
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:04:00 -
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That's CELES alright.
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So you invited a pilot you were at war with (and as you would say kicking their arse) in a friendly duel and expect him to show up alone
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:07:00 -
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Sounds like they took a page out of the Stain book.
I will add that Havoktbc vs Homo Erectus had similiar dubious events happen. Maybe not exactly the same, but similar none the less. If anyone forgot about this and doubts me I will find the old thread.
Becareful what you say, when your corp has done similar. Regardless, the CA disaproves of it, whomever does it.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:09:00 -
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That's CELES alright.
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So you invited a pilot you were at war with (and as you would say kicking their arse) in a friendly duel and expect him to show up alone
Actually no this is not how Celest would behave and hence I would not do it as I would probably get kicked out for pulling a stunt like that. If however this stunt was pulled on my under those circumstances I would not be the least bit surprised and I certainly wouldn't come crying about it on the forums.
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nails
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:09:00 -
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People don't like to loose, thus is why physicial rules have to be put into play to keep people in line. I'm all for a fair 1vs1 match, without a doubt you are taking the risk of a gank at this point in the game if you choose to go forward with one. At some point I hope CCP writes in some kinda of legitimate gang arena that can allow players to fight evenly without breaking the rules, or reganging while in the middle of a fight. About the most you can do in the current situation is point the finger at Presidio and note how much of a coward he is.
Sad display of cowardise Presidio, and it makes it even worse the fact that you bragged about the kill on the forums. Go die please.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:11:00 -
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I wish I could say this suprised me. GODS has shown nothing approaching honor in this entire war however. A lot of the guys in PA, tho we are at war, are decent people. Some are .... not. People can judge for themselves I think, who is who.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:12:00 -
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Sounds like they took a page out of the Stain book.
I will add that Havoktbc vs Homo Erectus had similiar dubious events happen. Maybe not exactly the same, but similar none the less. If anyone forgot about this and doubts me I will find the old thread.
Becareful what you say, when your corp has done similar. Regardless, the CA disaproves of it, whomever does it.
The reclaimer, CA has done this too.
I don't doubt that sum1 in my alliance has done it too.
No matter if it's a friend or enemy doing it, I call it extremely lame.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
olyyy
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:15:00 -
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*grin*
SirMolle were u really expecting some honour from people who are already traitors? From people who sold the NVA ? From people who ejected one of the founding corp?
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:17:00 -
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bUBbLeS dONkeY > cAKe vs cAKe = fair
What more is there to say?
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:20:00 -
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(cough) I remember homo doing something similar on me.... Least it wasn't 4 people though.
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption
Leader of The Black Plague.
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ReForMatt
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:24:00 -
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I personally wouldnĘt have done that, but in a game there are thousands of different personalities things happen. That being said I donĘt really do staged 1on1 either. For obvious reasons.
But whatever we are at war. Flame on.
GODS NUFF SAID!! |
Neil Crow
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:25:00 -
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Stigit > Jakal and presideo and already fought a little Jakal new that presideo only had long range so he set up a short range trap
Deathwing > um
Deathwing > presidio only carries one kind of ammo?
OK, first I feel the need to say... I consider this very lame and wouldn't consider doing it myself (for the same reason I'd never log off in battle etc... respect is worth more than ISK).
But...
You do know that long range guns hit bad at close range no matter their ammo type, yes?
It's not like +60% ammo hits WORSE at close range than -50% ammo either...
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:33:00 -
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Quote:
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Sounds like they took a page out of the Stain book.
I will add that Havoktbc vs Homo Erectus had similiar dubious events happen. Maybe not exactly the same, but similar none the less. If anyone forgot about this and doubts me I will find the old thread.
Becareful what you say, when your corp has done similar. Regardless, the CA disaproves of it, whomever does it.
The reclaimer, CA has done this too.
I don't doubt that sum1 in my alliance has done it too.
No matter if it's a friend or enemy doing it, I call it extremely lame.
Name names, bring proof.
Evol's Tactics in 1-1
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:38:00 -
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Quote:
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Stigit > Jakal and presideo and already fought a little Jakal new that presideo only had long range so he set up a short range trap
Deathwing > um
Deathwing > presidio only carries one kind of ammo?
OK, first I feel the need to say... I consider this very lame and wouldn't consider doing it myself (for the same reason I'd never log off in battle etc... respect is worth more than ISK).
But...
You do know that long range guns hit bad at close range no matter their ammo type, yes?
It's not like +60% ammo hits WORSE at close range than -50% ammo either...
If he knew his guns wouldn't work at that range, he could quite easily have refused to fight, it's not like he didn't have a choice..
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Valeria
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:44:00 -
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Heh, if I remember correctly it was a GODS battleship pilot that once run like a girl from 2 of our cruisers, and then came back with half the PA fleet and several metric tons of smacktalk. Much hilariousness ensued.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |
Ackath
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Posted - 2004.02.25 21:45:00 -
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Sorry to interfere but wasnt Presidio with the scorp and Jakal with the Tempest ?
Now i know Scorp can fight at any range but with close to med range being a bit better since he has to scramble and if using 425s with antimatter that would be optimal range, so Presidio in a 15 - 20 km should have been ok especially since he thought Jakal would go for range with the common 1400 setup.
But what? was Jakal all autocanons :P???
I mean i have trouble understanding why they claimed Jakal set him up?
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