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Ovidia Rhianon
Wolves and Knights The Irukandji
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Posted - 2012.03.09 20:04:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:notice i said schedule one, the fun stuff like ****** and cocain. where is that legal?
But cannabis is a schedule one drug, and we all know how dangerous pot is. |
Hai Boiz
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.09 21:06:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:you could hold a miner march to gather support!!!!!!!!!!!
I dare say you'll feel dumb when that statement comes back to bite you on the bum. As for the vote. I want to open the door and so does Issler. She has my vote.
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Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
9
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Posted - 2012.03.09 21:45:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Honestly, the idea of assigned mentors is a good one, though rewards become an issue. That said, I doubt you'd even need to reward them with anything concrete - maybe an in-game and in-forum tag, similar to the DEV and CSM tags you see on people now. This may sound presumptuous, but remember we're posting in a forum where people are literally trying to get elected to help the game for free, so I don't think it's much of a stretch that enough people would be willing to help out just for a vanity tag or w/e.
Good idea, I think you actually may be on to something there *clunk* (that was me passing out from surprise )
Personally, I find it hard to imagine any circumstance where bot-mining would be good for the game. Destroy botting! Maybe it can't be realistically totally prevented, but it certainly could be reduced a lot. ...Making mining much more dynamic would not only get more humans to mine, but would make writing scripts for bots harder, hmm?
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.09 22:41:00 -
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Ka P'lah wrote:Personally, I find it hard to imagine any circumstance where bot-mining would be good for the game. Destroy botting! Maybe it can't be realistically totally prevented, but it certainly could be reduced a lot. ...Making mining much more dynamic would not only get more humans to mine, but would make writing scripts for bots harder, hmm?
I don't think changing mechanics is the way to do it - if it's to be changed, do it solely with the interest of making mining better/more interesting for miners. If it makes scripts harder, then so be it, but it shouldn't even be a consideration, more of a happy coincidence if it works out. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 00:31:00 -
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Sorry Issler Im feeling extremely lazy today:) Whats the direct link to vote for you like the ones I see on almost every other candidates page.
Frying Doom |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1083
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Posted - 2012.03.10 00:39:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Sorry Issler Im feeling extremely lazy today:) Whats the direct link to vote for you like the ones I see on almost every other candidates page.
Frying Doom
This is supposed to be it.
Issler Dainze CSM 7
Please double check since I've voted and it doesn't seem to let me confirm.
Thanks!
Issler |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 00:44:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Sorry Issler Im feeling extremely lazy today:) Whats the direct link to vote for you like the ones I see on almost every other candidates page.
Frying Doom This is supposed to be it. Issler Dainze CSM 7Please double check since I've voted and it doesn't seem to let me confirm. Thanks! Issler
So have I so will have to presume it works unless one of the people with alts left can confirm. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 01:01:00 -
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Ka P'lah wrote:Snow Axe wrote:Honestly, the idea of assigned mentors is a good one, though rewards become an issue. That said, I doubt you'd even need to reward them with anything concrete - maybe an in-game and in-forum tag, similar to the DEV and CSM tags you see on people now. This may sound presumptuous, but remember we're posting in a forum where people are literally trying to get elected to help the game for free, so I don't think it's much of a stretch that enough people would be willing to help out just for a vanity tag or w/e.
Good idea, I think you actually may be on to something there *clunk* (that was me passing out from surprise ) Personally, I find it hard to imagine any circumstance where bot-mining would be good for the game. Destroy botting! Maybe it can't be realistically totally prevented, but it certainly could be reduced a lot. ...Making mining much more dynamic would not only get more humans to mine, but would make writing scripts for bots harder, hmm?
Personally after spending litterally hundreds if not thousands of hours mining I would like to see botters computers explode. The worst thing is that after all these years and a special team to stop botting it just isn't putting a dent in it. I just find it very frustrating that some piece of scum is botting and gaining an unfair advantage. In the recent ice attacks by the goons they noted alot of bots ice mining. The current attempts to spot this are not effective enough and something needs to be done.
On a happier note I think the ideas for helping the newbies are really on the right track, I'm not sure if a simple tag would be enough but yes I definitely believe we are on the right track here.
I must say thanks to Issler for letting us highjack his post:)
Frying Doom |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1083
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Posted - 2012.03.10 01:07:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ka P'lah wrote:Snow Axe wrote:Honestly, the idea of assigned mentors is a good one, though rewards become an issue. That said, I doubt you'd even need to reward them with anything concrete - maybe an in-game and in-forum tag, similar to the DEV and CSM tags you see on people now. This may sound presumptuous, but remember we're posting in a forum where people are literally trying to get elected to help the game for free, so I don't think it's much of a stretch that enough people would be willing to help out just for a vanity tag or w/e.
Good idea, I think you actually may be on to something there *clunk* (that was me passing out from surprise ) Personally, I find it hard to imagine any circumstance where bot-mining would be good for the game. Destroy botting! Maybe it can't be realistically totally prevented, but it certainly could be reduced a lot. ...Making mining much more dynamic would not only get more humans to mine, but would make writing scripts for bots harder, hmm? Personally after spending litterally hundreds if not thousands of hours mining I would like to see botters computers explode. The worst thing is that after all these years and a special team to stop botting it just isn't putting a dent in it. I just find it very frustrating that some piece of scum is botting and gaining an unfair advantage. In the recent ice attacks by the goons they noted alot of bots ice mining. The current attempts to spot this are not effective enough and something needs to be done. On a happier note I think the ideas for helping the newbies are really on the right track, I'm not sure if a simple tag would be enough but yes I definitely believe we are on the right track here. I must say thanks to Issler for letting us highjack his post:) Frying Doom
"Her" post, remember I am the only female candidate this election!
And happy to have great conversations in any thread I'm part of!
I'm a little suspicious of the goons claims of the number of bots vs other miners, but I agree botting must stop! And CCP needs to start changing its tactics because the current approach is like bailing out the Titanic with a thimble.
Issler
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Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 01:14:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:"Her" post, remember I am the only female candidate this election! Issler Sorry someone already said this but it's just habit as only 5% or so of the EVE population is Female. The number of people who play female however is a lot higher so over the years I have got in the habit of saying he, that way I'm more likely to be right:) |
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1083
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Posted - 2012.03.10 01:18:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:"Her" post, remember I am the only female candidate this election! Issler Sorry someone already said this but it's just habit as only 5% or so of the EVE population is Female. The number of people who play female however is a lot higher so over the years I have got in the habit of saying he, that way I'm more likely to be right:)
No worries! Just gave me a chance to point it out again......
Issler |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 03:37:00 -
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Ok this is going to be a bit of a long one covering the newbie mentor program.
I would like to thank Tallian Saotome of Fatal Ascension and Snow Axe of GoonWaffe for their ideas.
What I am currently proposing is that all Newbies enter a pool effectively like that for the Rookie Channel (probably using the same info that allows people onto that channel, except with the added requirement that the account the character is on is not a buddy or other added account and isn't a plex account)
At the same time allow people to opt in to a mentor pool. Give this pool some kind of criteria, possibly a time frame like 6 months + active for the account.
Allow the newbies to do a tutorial quest to teach them how to use the mentor database. Have the mentor list showing things like Name, Age(of Character), number of jumps away from mentor and scores previously given to the mentor by previous newbies. Also a button to allow a chat to be opened to the Mentor before accepting (also removing the mentor and pupil from the lists for the duration of the chat, preventing a mentor from being overwhelmed)
Have a panel similar to this for the mentors to access with access to the newbie information like age of character, amount of time played (Allowing the mentor to see if the current activity level of the player fits in to his own) and how many jumps to get to the newbie.
Allow a simple pop up like the one currently used for fleet invites to allow a mentor invite.
Now the hard bits are the rewards for the mentors. I agree with Tallian Saotome that a corporate reward system is probably a good place to start. This will allow CEO's to set up a structure within their corp to allow newbies to flourish and give something to the Corp as a whole. I'm not sure about Tallian Saotome's idea of increasing tax rate mostly because of the current inflation in the game it's self. With PLEX's rising at a fairly allarming rate and mineral prices rising as well. I suggested a leveled system for corporations to assist this as well (but I don't think that is right either). So what I am going to suggest is that corps should get a 1% reduction per newbie up to 20% in a reduction in the price of medical clones, repairs, insurance costs and production costs at npc stations.
For the mentor himself I recommend the addition of an in-game and in-forum tag, similar to the DEV and CSM tags you see on people now.(As suggested by Snow Axe) as well as an SP bonus of 10% to the mentor for the duration of his tutelage.
it was suggested that
Tallian Saotome wrote:
2) Easily manipulated to turn newbies into personal slaves and be rewarded for it. If I go pick a random newbie, tell him I am gonna get him started in the game, give him 50 mil, and use him as my slave til the mentor bonus goes away, then tell him to bugger off, that is going to reward me for behavior that will ultimately make that newbie leave the game.I can make 50 mil in roughly an hour, but to a newbie its gonna seem like I am the richest man in eve, so he will think its legit.
If EVE were not the cut-throat game it is, your ideas would be wonderful, but CCP encourages us to abuse and exploit mechanics. (The rule is that unless its an obvious bug, we can use it til they change the mechanic)
A corp isn't as likely to do this, as they don't want dead weight screwing up their numbers(unless it is a newbie training corp) so they will teach the newbie to survive so they can help the corp.
For this I recommend that an easy ability for the newbie to remove them self from the mentor be established so that way if the mentor does us them as a personal slave, the pupil can get out simply, I also recommend the ability for either the mentor or the pupil to cease the relationship easily as sometimes personalities clash.
I agree that a corporation is an integral part of this process, for it to succeed corps have got to want newbies. I also feel the need for the newbies at the end of their tutelage whether from time or they leave the current mentor need to be able to rate the mentors performance. Allowing an averaging of this score and possibly a pop up on comments to appear on the Newbie Mentor screens for others to see.
For the future of eve we need not just us regular bar flies but need blood to move the game forward. I personally hope EVE will be around in the distant future so I have something to play if I ever make it to retirement:)
In addition to this I feel that additional tutorial quests and and an expansion of the lvl 1 quests are needed to intice players to stay and play.
Please feel free to leave any helpful comments and suggestions as I think this is a good idea on a way forward for the game.
Frying Doom
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
188
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Posted - 2012.03.10 03:48:00 -
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Kimiko Nodachi wrote:No time to swap accts before I head off for the day.
Friendly bump to the top and confirmation of yet another Mr Epeen vote for Issler. tsk tsk tsk nice anime name One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
903
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Posted - 2012.03.10 04:30:00 -
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I'll have to take your word for it. Can't stand the stuff. But feel free to enlighten us with what must be plenty of first hand knowledge.
And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for Mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
188
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Posted - 2012.03.10 04:45:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I'll have to take your word for it. Can't stand the stuff. But feel free to enlighten us with what must be plenty of first hand knowledge. And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for Mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE. Mr Epeen really? can you explain? cus to me is like seleen = industry + pvp leaning trebor = industry + hisec nonbloc leaning issler = industry + wis One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 04:52:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:I'll have to take your word for it. Can't stand the stuff. But feel free to enlighten us with what must be plenty of first hand knowledge. And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for Mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE. Mr Epeen really? can you explain? cus to me is like seleen = industry + pvp leaning trebor = industry + hisec nonbloc leaning issler = industry + wis
Actually I would have gone for "And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for a community. A vote for Issler is a vote for the EVE community. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
188
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Posted - 2012.03.10 08:43:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I'll have to take your word for it. Can't stand the stuff. But feel free to enlighten us with what must be plenty of first hand knowledge. And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for Mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE. Mr Epeen
just come clean and say vote for issler is all about the wis One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 09:58:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote: just come clean and say vote for issler is all about the wis
I noticed you really dodged the a vote for mittens there. Is this because a vote for mittens isn't a vote for eve? As it goes into in Sins of a spy master 75 http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/75 Goons are recruited from Somethingawful.com quite often before they have even commenced playing EVE. So goons are recruited outside the EVE community, then they are surrounded and nurtured by the Goonswarm fleet. Never having been real newbies or having been a part of the EVE community as a whole. This probably explains why a large part (I will admit not all) of the goonswarm fleet seem so different from us.
And on your post a vote for issler is not all about Wis, there is so much more to this game and she has made her opinions clear to all who look.
I will admit I myself would prefer a lot more done with Wis. That is due to my belief that Newbies are the way forward. If things stay as they are and CCP can see no expanding profits they may make the company public. Just so they can get the money and run, create another company and another game from the sale of this one. Lets face it if the numbers become static or fall (Especially as the company would be worth considerably more just after the release of Dust 514) they would be better off to sell the game to someone else. Then who knows what we might get this could even become Play 2 Win Yuck. |
Irokoi Purisukin
Prussia Group Meracom
0
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Posted - 2012.03.10 11:25:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:[...yada, yada, yada...] I noticed you really dodged the a vote for mittens there. Is this because a vote for mittens isn't a vote for eve? As it goes into in Sins of a spy master 75 http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/75Goons are recruited from Somethingawful.com quite often before they have even commenced playing EVE. So goons are recruited outside the EVE community, then they are surrounded and nurtured by the Goonswarm fleet. [...yada, yada, yada...]
Thank you so much for the link, seriously. Now things make a lot more sense to me as the community I'm in was also created and existed long before any of us even cared for (or knew about) eve online. And while we do not engage in the sort of stuff the Goons do, now I understand where they're coming from... Interesting stuff!
Oh and sorry. I know the purpose of you posting that link wasn't to get this reaction. But I wouldn't worry as I'm sure I'm a minority and most people will give you what you were looking for. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 11:50:00 -
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Irokoi Purisukin wrote:
Thank you so much for the link, seriously. Now things make a lot more sense to me as the community I'm in was also created and existed long before any of us even cared for (or knew about) eve online. And while we do not engage in the sort of stuff the Goons do, now I understand where they're coming from... Interesting stuff!
Oh and sorry. I know the purpose of you posting that link wasn't to get this reaction. But I wouldn't worry as I'm sure I'm a minority and most people will give you what you were looking for.
In all honesty no problem. I do strongly believe that knowledge is always a good thing. Most of the people I used to associate with from my text based game went to WOW then onto other games.
My concern with the way the Goons have it set up is they kind of remind me of those disgruntled US citizens that make their own little camps and call them selves revolutionary fighters. When all they really are, are a bunch of exclusionists who what to have their own society(Probably a bit of a strong analogy to be honest, but you get where Im going) and just try to distort main stream society where they can to fit their perception. |
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
310
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Posted - 2012.03.10 14:08:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Taiwanistan wrote: just come clean and say vote for issler is all about the wis I noticed you really dodged the a vote for mittens there. Is this because a vote for mittens isn't a vote for eve? As it goes into in Sins of a spy master 75 http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/75Goons are recruited from Somethingawful.com quite often before they have even commenced playing EVE. So goons are recruited outside the EVE community, then they are surrounded and nurtured by the Goonswarm fleet. Never having been real newbies or having been a part of the EVE community as a whole. This probably explains why a large part (I will admit not all) of the goonswarm fleet seem so different from us. And on your post a vote for issler is not all about Wis, there is so much more to this game and she has made her opinions clear to all who look. I will admit I myself would prefer a lot more done with Wis. That is due to my belief that Newbies are the way forward. If things stay as they are and CCP can see no expanding profits they may decide to sell the game or focus on another game again like they did before with Dust and World of Darkness.. Then who knows what will happen to the game it might even become Pay 2 Win Yuck.
Interesting post by Mittens, that translates as: EVE favors the kind of people who don't need EVE for anything, thus can kill it without any personal consequence. EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 14:28:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Interesting post by Mittens, that translates as: EVE favors the kind of people who don't need EVE for anything, thus can kill it without any personal consequence.
So to translate your translation what your saying is Mittens does care about the future of EVE.
Oh and BTW where did you get your populations demographics data the only one I can find is the 2010 4th quarter report that says 11.26% Null space population. Very strange that the Null population prior to December 2010 was never changed much but now your stating it almost doubled in the last 12 months. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
310
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Posted - 2012.03.10 14:51:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Interesting post by Mittens, that translates as: EVE favors the kind of people who don't need EVE for anything, thus can kill it without any personal consequence.
So to translate your translation what your saying is Mittens does care about the future of EVE. Oh and BTW where did you get your populations demographics data the only one I can find is the 2010 4th quarter report that says 11.26% Null space population. Very strange that the Null population prior to December 2010 was never changed much but now your stating it almost doubled in the last 12 months.
Mittens worries about the SA community, namely the Goonwaffe. He's proud of it. But then Goonwaffe are less than 3% of the player base.
As for the population numbers, CCP Diagoras tweeted them, somebody quoted him, and I quote the guy who quoted CCP Diagora's tweet. Very sound data sourcing, CCP style.
The data are from october 2011, IIRC. EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.03.10 18:30:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Interesting post by Mittens, that translates as: EVE favors the kind of people who don't need EVE for anything, thus can kill it without any personal consequence.
So to translate your translation what your saying is Mittens does care about the future of EVE. Oh and BTW where did you get your populations demographics data the only one I can find is the 2010 4th quarter report that says 11.26% Null space population. Very strange that the Null population prior to December 2010 was never changed much but now your stating it almost doubled in the last 12 months. Mittens worries about the SA community, namely the Goonwaffe. He's proud of it. But then Goonwaffe are less than 3% of the player base. As for the population numbers, CCP Diagoras tweeted them, somebody quoted him, and I quote the guy who quoted CCP Diagora's tweet. Very sound data sourcing, CCP style. The data are from october 2011, IIRC.
Except you are too ******** to distinguish characters from players. But please, continue.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
310
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Posted - 2012.03.10 19:11:00 -
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Takashi Kaeda wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Interesting post by Mittens, that translates as: EVE favors the kind of people who don't need EVE for anything, thus can kill it without any personal consequence.
So to translate your translation what your saying is Mittens does care about the future of EVE. Oh and BTW where did you get your populations demographics data the only one I can find is the 2010 4th quarter report that says 11.26% Null space population. Very strange that the Null population prior to December 2010 was never changed much but now your stating it almost doubled in the last 12 months. Mittens worries about the SA community, namely the Goonwaffe. He's proud of it. But then Goonwaffe are less than 3% of the player base. As for the population numbers, CCP Diagoras tweeted them, somebody quoted him, and I quote the guy who quoted CCP Diagora's tweet. Very sound data sourcing, CCP style. The data are from october 2011, IIRC. Except you are too ******** to distinguish characters from players. But please, continue.
How original argument. Wait a minute, I look for the answer from the FAQ:
- The argument that "characters don't equal players" can be used in both directions: characters in hisec or nullsec can be randomly claimed to be alts to players mainly living on the other side of the divide. This doesn't dimishes the argument that players choose to place most of their characters in hisec.
Any more questions? EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.10 23:11:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Mittens worries about the SA community, namely the Goonwaffe. He's proud of it. But then Goonwaffe are less than 3% of the player base.
As for the population numbers, CCP Diagoras tweeted them, somebody quoted him, and I quote the guy who quoted CCP Diagora's tweet. Very sound data sourcing, CCP style.
The data are from october 2011, IIRC.
This I will admit is why I have concerns for Goons in the CSM they are only interested in the SA community, they rarely interact with the rest of us. Unless its in a blob fleet. Does sort of show if your not a Goon and you voted for mittens your a fool.
Oh I found the Quote from CCP Diagoras it was in 29th of Feb Locations of active chars with more than 5m SP just after midnight: High Sec 66.00%, Low sec 7.37%, Null sec 20.73%, Wormhole Space 5.89%
So that at least explains the difference in figures, the ones I have include characters below 5 million SP yours don't. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.03.11 00:09:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:This I will admit is why I have concerns for Goons in the CSM they are only interested in the SA community, they rarely interact with the rest of us. Unless its in a blob fleet. Does sort of show if your not a Goon and you voted for mittens your a fool.
The entire history of Goonfleet/waffe/whatever in 0.0 has came about because of working with people that have no connection at all to SA, and that continues to this day. Your theory is dumb. |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.11 00:20:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Frying Doom wrote:This I will admit is why I have concerns for Goons in the CSM they are only interested in the SA community, they rarely interact with the rest of us. Unless its in a blob fleet. Does sort of show if your not a Goon and you voted for mittens your a fool.
The entire history of Goonfleet/waffe/whatever in 0.0 has came about because of working with people that have no connection at all to SA, and that continues to this day. Your theory is dumb.
So what your saying is that what The Mittani wrote is wrong or is he just incompetent.
http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/75
"Goonswarm is the first and largest example of a community-born group. Goonswarm hails from Somethingawful.com"
I got my facts from the horses mouth as it were, where are you getting yours from? |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.03.11 00:46:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:[So what your saying is that what The Mittani wrote is wrong or is he just incompetent. http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/75"Goonswarm is the first and largest example of a community-born group. Goonswarm hails from Somethingawful.com" I got my facts from the horses mouth as it were, where are you getting yours from?
You are aware that we have allies, right? Always have? Always will? Hint: they're not from SA. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
910
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Posted - 2012.03.11 01:10:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Frying Doom wrote:[So what your saying is that what The Mittani wrote is wrong or is he just incompetent. http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/75"Goonswarm is the first and largest example of a community-born group. Goonswarm hails from Somethingawful.com" I got my facts from the horses mouth as it were, where are you getting yours from? You are aware that we have allies, right? Always have? Always will? Hint: they're not from SA.
Hmm...
Brand new alt.
What do we have here? Bee without a clue? Damage control? Or distraction?
Never know with these guys.
Mr Epeen
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