As a VOR candidate running for CSM7 I will specifically address my stance on the aformentioned issues and how I will represent them.

Miners: By removing NPC Corps and making pilots individually wardeccable, highsec can no longer be flooded with minerals to the degree that only botted up NPC corp miners can. Trit and pye will only increase in value as supply decreases to meet demand. Ban NPC Corps.

Low-Sec: By banning NPC Corps and making pilots individually wardeccable, lowsec's 'safety' will increase in relation, making it more sensible for players to move there in a calculated risk/reward move. Ban NPC Corps.

Industrialists: By banning NPC Corps and making pilots individually wardeccable, industrialists will no longer have one option - to undercut thousands of other industrialists with max skills and max safety. By forcefully decreasing the supply, industrialists' work is valued more individually. Ban NPC Corps.

Traders: Traders benefit the most by banning NPC Corps and making pilots individually decable. Imagine the potential profit determined traders could make if the non-stop fleet of AFK autopiloting NPC freighters were made vulnerable. Ban NPC Corps.

WiS: Ban NPC Corps


Nicolo 2012
CSM VOR High Council
Ban NPC Corps

Could you clarify your position in NPC corps?

I gathered that you dislike the Technetium monopoly of null alliances, right Issler?
Well how do you feel about the 0.0 logistics crew's NPC corp freighter alts under 100% wardec-proof CONCORD safety that haul in all that moon goo for you to pay out the nose for? And then load up said freighters with compressed minerals, minerals mined non-stop by NPC corp hulks I add, that flood the market making carebears like you sell their ore at a pittance. Not to mention eliminating the necessity of moving in casual, PvE types into 0.0 for stuff like manufacturing and mining in null. With NPC Corps pushing the margin of profit in easily accessed hisec ever lower due to lack of opposition, you just aren't needed or wanted in our space (beyond the status of a renter).

The "Voice of Reason" party intends to represent the following segments of the Eve population. Consider these the "planks" of the party.

Miners
Industrialists
Traders
Small Corps
Independent players
High Sec
Low Sec
PvE
Casual Players
WiS

So, basically almost everyone in EVE. I count my own EVE experience in part all of those except Mining, Industry, and WiS. Perhaps you should look at some of my previous ideas for EVE and incorporate them into your Platform.

Speaking of NPC corps, I disagree that they should be removed, but agree they are a problem and should be changed. I think having all members of NPC corps automatically enlisted in Faction War would be a happy medium between keeping them as is and removing them altogether as suggested by Nicolo. Would also make High Sec a much more interesting place by having game lore impact players lives far more than it does atm... Sadly Lore/Roleplayers were left off your list Issler

The change in the CSM elections and the Iceland face to face meeting attendance make it even more important that the Eve general population get involved in the upcoming elections. To that end I am anouncing I will be running and organizing the "Voice of Reason Party". Let me explain my plans and ask for your support (but maybe not in the way you think).

The "Voice of Reason" party intends to represent the following segments of the Eve population. Consider these the "planks" of the party.

Miners
Industrialists
Traders
Small Corps
Independent players
High Sec
Low Sec
PvE
Casual Players
WiS

Basically folk that often are discarded as "carebears" but make up a huge portion of the Eve population. A group that has not had representaion for a long time in the CSM.

So "Issler", you say, there may be many folks that would want to run supporting those players. I would say "yes, I hope there are!"

I am asking anyone who will be running to support this segment of Eve to declare themselves as part of the "Voice of Reason" party. We will organize and debate in the public spaces of Eve to narrow the field to the best two candidates and refine our party planks using some "party voting" (method TBD) and then ask any that would support our party put their support behind the best of us. If we organize we could easily have the chair and another Iceland bound seat!

So "bears", will you join me in finding the right candidates, get our supporters energized and take back the CSM???

I will be putting considerable energy in getting folks from our party elected and those folks don't have to include me, lets find and elect the best!

Together we cannot be defeated!!

Issler Dainze
CSM 7 candidate
Member of the Voice of Reason Party

Issler Dainze, I salute your intentions and effort. I agree, the high sec group needs representation. You have my vote. It's a shame that this thread was blobbed by the opposition. Best to just ignore em.

Personally I think Low Sec should be removed from that list. The party should be comprised of 3 members. If elected, this would at least have 1/3rd of the CSM representing citizens in high security. The platform could be something like PvE, Industrial and Political.

PvE:
Missions
Incursions
Exploration
WiS

Industrial:
Mining & PI
Market & Trade
Invention & Production
Transport & Courier

Political:
NPC Corp Members
Independent Player Corps
Role Playing & Lore Content
High Security Game Mechanics

Each member should be knowledgeable or highly active in the group they interview. They should canvas their respective group's population regarding issues, solutions, concerns, viewpoints and ideas for future content pertaining to that group. The 3 members would then compare, debate, vote and compile a shared list based on the interviews as their platform for election to CSM which will be presented to CCP during their term.


Obviously a bit more thought would have to be put into this but I think you get the idea. Good luck to you and the 'Voice of Reason Party'.

I'm in a NPC corp and this is my main character. I don't like the idea to get rid of NPC corps or make all NPC corps part of Factional Warfare or any other major changes. I pay plenty of taxes which is payment for freedom to do whatever I want, whenever I want, anywhere I want without having to deal with a CEO's orders or worry about a WarDec from a Griefer Corp. Because of that, I'm not allowed to have a POS.

My career is missions and exploration with a little bit of invention, production and trade. Yes, I play mostly solo but I keep half a dozen chat channels open and fleet up with other players from time to time. I've traveled in low and null sec but usually keep to high sec.

About the only change I would like to see for NPC corp members is when in a gang or fleet, if someone aggros one of the members in the fleet, all gang members should be allowed to retaliate without Concord interfering. This would help level the playing field a bit against can flippers, suicide gankers and Ninja mission invaders.

Just remember that there's a lot of potential votes sitting in NPC corps so best to tread lightly on that subject.

I definitely think NPC corps have a place in Eve. But I am not sure that perfect safe havens in a lot of Eve activities is the right place.

Issler

NPC corp members are not safe, not by a long shot. They get can flipped, suicide ganked and Ninja'd quite often. Probably because they can't dish out very much retribution due to the current game mechanics.

Those who say being in a NPC corp is safe don't know jack. A few months ago I was assassinated in a 0.7 system at a Radar site by 1/2 dozen Merc players in Battleships. It was a hit paid for by another player who brought forum rage into the game as grief play.

Traders - there was a time when a person could make a living running trade. Seems to no longer be the case.

Not sure if serious.

But I am quite curious to see what kind of platform would get the approval from such a diverse target audience.

I've started with a scatter gun approach to be sure. I just have a strong conviction a lot of players are not represented by the current power block focused CSM. The idea earlier of a slate of candidates working together with specific areas of focus is where I expect is us to converge.

I am serious about this and I hope others will join. There is no reason a minority of Eve should control the CSM. CSM6 has made it clear to a much larger audience that the CSM does affect CCP. For folks out there like myself the reject the notion that "null is the end game" (a sandbox by definition has no end game) and that CCP needs to hyperfocus on null.

I hope this is the way to make sure CSM7 makes CCP realize he majority of Eve could care less about supercaps and sov and would love something as simple as making mining better, keeping PvE fresh or making high sec more dynamic.

Issler Dainze
Voice of Reason CSM 7 Candidate

Sure, and I applaud your effort. I just thought the notion of being unable to make a living trading was weird. But I'm looking forward to seeing your proposals.

The question really should be "what is an NPC corp intended to be"? Maybe NPC corp members are restricted in ship types of activities? Or some type of modification of war dec that removes the shield is the answer.

I don't claim to know how to solve the problem but I'd love to participate in a serious discussion of the issues.

lol why is wis on the bottom of the list

Wanting to play EVE solo is an entirely valid stance I feel and because of that disagree with Malcanis/Xorv's suggestion that NPC Corps should be merged with FW. I agree with DeMichael that being a lone wolf in EVE is perfectly fine, but think his entitlement to special no-wardec mode to do it with is the antithesis of everything EVE is about and his ability to do so through NPC corps is the source of the majority of EVE's risk/reward problems. Playing EVE solo and choosing not to share commitments with other players should have consequences, not just benefits.

I believe the intent of NPC Corps was to provide an avenue for pilots unwilling to join a corporation to play eve while still having a corp channel to socialize in (because the devs have stated strong feelings on that players should interact in an MMO). It was not intended as an easy metagaming tool, a special mode for maxed out veteran bears who want to opt out of PvP while ratting/hauling billions without a care in the world or to be New Eden's logistical backbone that puts those who want to work as a team at a competitive disadvantage. Perhaps it was intended to be a entry point for rookies at one point, but if it was, in it's current form it is unrecognizable.

Wanting to play EVE solo is an entirely valid stance I feel and because of that disagree with Malcanis/Xorv's suggestion that NPC Corps should be merged with FW. I agree with DeMichael that being a lone wolf in EVE is perfectly fine, but think his entitlement to special no-wardec mode to do it with is the antithesis of everything EVE is about and his ability to do so through NPC corps is the source of the majority of EVE's risk/reward problems. Playing EVE solo and choosing not to share commitments with other players should have consequences, not just benefits.

I've talked about the improvements to PvE, but taking away NPC Corps and letting them be wardec'd individually solves a lot of PvP metagaming problems too. The neutral RR-alt trend or NPC scout in highsec shouldn't be protected at all times; their ass should be next on the line of people eating a wardec from the other corp. Convoluted aggro fixes for the latest FOTM trick used by combat alts aren't as needed; next time you go after a corp, you tack on the alts they brought along last time for good measure.

Wanting to play EVE solo is an entirely valid stance I feel and because of that disagree with Malcanis/Xorv's suggestion that NPC Corps should be merged with FW...

So, again, what we should be looking to do is open up opportunities for chosing a level of risk and reward appropriate to their requirements rather than simply punish people for not wanting to join a player corp. One obvious way of doing this is to allow players a free choice of NPC corp and then attach different terms and conditions to membership of those corps... membership of different NPC corps might give access to different activities and privileges but might also involve obligations and risks. Did you know that Caldari corporations fight amongst each other? And that there's a war on (that might well involve the military organisations). Some NPC corps even have a presence in lo-sec......but then what privileges or opportunities does membership confer? Zero NPC corp tax? access to better missions than other NPC corp members? Faster faction standings increases?

Im a carebear... and are going to do the same as 90% of eve...
not vote...

Im a carebear... and are going to do the same as 90% of eve...
not vote...