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Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2011.09.06 11:27:00 -
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Pyfa (Python Fitting Assistant) is an open-source next-generation fitting tool. It works on all platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows) - and also has a native interface on each of those platforms.
To download Pyfa, please look here To view screenshots of Pyfa, please look here
For other projects and lots of other information about the evefit project, look here
Pyfa Features
- Fully updated to incarna
- Advanced graphing
- Powerful and intuitive UI
- Works on almost all platforms
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
98
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Posted - 2011.09.06 12:00:00 -
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Holy wow... this looks amazing. You weren't kidding when you said next gen. Love it. |
M1AU
Rheintal Underground Rising
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Posted - 2011.09.06 12:08:00 -
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Nice app, works great on Linux! |
Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
18
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Posted - 2011.09.06 12:10:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:Holy wow... this looks amazing. You weren't kidding when you said next gen. Love it. Actually that's repost from old forums, original post wasn't written by me - i'd never call it next-gen.
However, there're some very realistic plans for truly next-gen calculation engine (which is powering pyfa), hoping to finish it before the NY. |
Cipher Jones
36
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Posted - 2011.09.06 14:52:00 -
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PFA is amazing. Runs quite stable in slackware. I was afraid the wormhole effects would not be included, but it is perfect.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Xaphan Ravenwing
Astranox
0
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:10:00 -
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pyfa is not applying NH ship bonus to kinetic missle damage atm when calculating DPS, possibly on some other ships too, version 1.0.3 |
Kheper Ra
Industrial Strength Killers Enlightened Violence
0
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:20:00 -
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Great job on the app!
Works great on Ubuntu 10.10 |
Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:33:00 -
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Xaphan Ravenwing wrote:pyfa is not applying NH ship bonus to kinetic missle damage atm when calculating DPS, possibly on some other ships too, version 1.0.3 All ships are part of our test suite (all bonuses are covered by unit tests which are run at least once before each release), so it's extremely unlikely to get bugged ship bonus. I just downloaded 1.0.3 src version to double-check - bonus is properly applied to kinetic missiles. |
Cameron Zero
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.06 16:41:00 -
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It does look pretty. A question, though:
Why use this over EFT? "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GǪ" |
Xaphan Ravenwing
Astranox
0
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Posted - 2011.09.06 17:46:00 -
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Kadesh Priestess wrote:Xaphan Ravenwing wrote:pyfa is not applying NH ship bonus to kinetic missle damage atm when calculating DPS, possibly on some other ships too, version 1.0.3 All ships are part of our test suite (all bonuses are covered by unit tests which are run at least once before each release), so it's extremely unlikely to get bugged ship bonus. I just downloaded 1.0.3 src version to double-check - bonus is properly applied to kinetic missiles. Here you go, check the image, it should be 741 instead of 609 total DPS (and it is on EFT) - Imageshack |
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Zakua Corbin
3rd MERC Squadron
1
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:13:00 -
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Niiice! |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:31:00 -
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I love Pyfa and much prefer to use it over EFT for my general build pottering-about, simply because it doesn't look like something running on Windows 95.
EFT still does some things Pyfa can't, but on the other hand Pyfa can do some things EFT can't, so both are very useful.
Keep up the good work! |
OilSlick Rick
Quantum Cats Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:34:00 -
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As they would say on Conan O'Brien:
Oh it looks good! |
Zangorus
Targeted Aggression
127
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:37:00 -
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Sexy Like my comment and recieve 1 million isk ingame! |
Cameron Zero
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.06 20:29:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:I love Pyfa and much prefer to use it over EFT for my general build pottering-about, simply because it doesn't look like something running on Windows 95.
EFT still does some things Pyfa can't, but on the other hand Pyfa can do some things EFT can't, so both are very useful.
Keep up the good work!
Oh, I mean no disrespect, of course. I'm legitimately wondering what the differences are so I know whether it's worth the time to download/install. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GǪ" |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:04:00 -
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Cameron Zero wrote:It does look pretty. A question, though:
Why use this over EFT?
EFT runs like **** in linux, and I am sure on Mac also, if at all.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
18
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:27:00 -
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Xaphan Ravenwing wrote:Here you go, check the image, it should be 741 instead of 609 total DPS (and it is on EFT) - Imageshack Seems like you're right, couple of my friends confirmed that NH's kinetic dmg bonus is applied to assault missiles, although none of them was able to check it in game. It'd be nice if you:
1) Check if this bonus is applied to assault missiles in eve (compare terror dmg and torrent dmg using fitting screen's info buttons) 2) Check if it is applied to any other missile type (not heavy and assault), eg light missiles (bloodclaw and pirahna, launcher type - assault or light - doesn't matter here)
And please do not use EFT as proof - our calculation engine tries to replicate eve's behavior. While EFT is imo still more accurate in average, it has various miscalculations too (at least 10+ were found during simple set of tri-way checks about year ago; some of them may be fixed now while others don't) and we don't want these to be included in pyfa.
Btw, we missed this bonus because NH's description is misleading - we're primarily using our general eve knowledge, some internal eve stuff and ship description when filling bonuses. Obviously, in this case our knowlegde sucked, that internal thing didn't give us a clue, as this combination possible sometimes, such bug reports are welcome, thanks :) |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2011.09.07 01:51:00 -
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Cameron Zero wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote:I love Pyfa and much prefer to use it over EFT for my general build pottering-about, simply because it doesn't look like something running on Windows 95.
EFT still does some things Pyfa can't, but on the other hand Pyfa can do some things EFT can't, so both are very useful.
Keep up the good work! Oh, I mean no disrespect, of course. I'm legitimately wondering what the differences are so I know whether it's worth the time to download/install.
A couple of things I like is that Pyfa gives tracking for turrets and updates it as you put mods, rigs, scripts, etc., in, and it also has tracking and optimal/falloff for drones (also updated with mods and rigs), which as a heavy sentry drone user atm I find very useful. It also gives a rough cost of the ship and fittings based on current market values.
An important thing that EFT does that Pyfa can't do atm (so far as I know) is show the effect of fleet bonuses. The one visual advantage it has over Pyfa (which is otherwise visually superior) is that it has a clear visual separation between hi, mid and low slots |
Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
98
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Posted - 2011.09.07 08:46:00 -
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Kadesh Priestess wrote:Cyzlaki wrote:Holy wow... this looks amazing. You weren't kidding when you said next gen. Love it. Actually that's repost from old forums, original post wasn't written by me - i'd never call it next-gen. However, there're some very realistic plans for truly next-gen calculation engine (which is powering pyfa), hoping to finish it before the NY. Oh. Well, uhh, fine then! |
Cameron Zero
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 16:15:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Cameron Zero wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote:I love Pyfa and much prefer to use it over EFT for my general build pottering-about, simply because it doesn't look like something running on Windows 95.
EFT still does some things Pyfa can't, but on the other hand Pyfa can do some things EFT can't, so both are very useful.
Keep up the good work! Oh, I mean no disrespect, of course. I'm legitimately wondering what the differences are so I know whether it's worth the time to download/install. A couple of things I like is that Pyfa gives tracking for turrets and updates it as you put mods, rigs, scripts, etc., in, and it also has tracking and optimal/falloff for drones (also updated with mods and rigs), which as a heavy sentry drone user atm I find very useful. It also gives a rough cost of the ship and fittings based on current market values. An important thing that EFT does that Pyfa can't do atm (so far as I know) is show the effect of fleet bonuses. The one visual advantage it has over Pyfa (which is otherwise visually superior) is that it has a clear visual separation between hi, mid and low slots
Ah, so that's what I was looking for. Thank you! "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GǪ" |
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Lord MuffloN
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2011.09.07 16:44:00 -
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Can pyfa import/export fittings easily? I don't know if it already exists, but wouldn't it be possible to make a import feature compatible with EFT's format? |
Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2011.09.07 20:56:00 -
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Lord MuffloN wrote:Can pyfa import/export fittings easily? I don't know if it already exists, but wouldn't it be possible to make a import feature compatible with EFT's format? File -> Import -> shift-select all EFT cfgs and you're done.
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Lord MuffloN
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2011.09.08 10:30:00 -
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Kadesh Priestess wrote:Lord MuffloN wrote:Can pyfa import/export fittings easily? I don't know if it already exists, but wouldn't it be possible to make a import feature compatible with EFT's format? File -> Import -> shift-select all EFT cfgs and you're done.
Oh yes, I did note that feature, and it does indeed help, but I was more thinking the clipboard import that EFT have, it's a damn nice feature.
EDIT: There also seems to be problems with importing characters after the API change? |
Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
19
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Posted - 2011.09.08 10:39:00 -
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Lord MuffloN wrote:Oh yes, I did note that feature, and it does indeed help, but I was more thinking the clipboard import that EFT have, it's a damn nice feature. That's even easier - use conventional ctrl-c/ctrl-v or edit menu. When pasting fit, pyfa autodetects its format and uses proper importer.
Lord MuffloN wrote:EDIT: There also seems to be problems with importing characters after the API change? Obviously yes, we'll make new release with changes to the API subsystem in near future. |
royal killer
Single Sun
0
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Posted - 2011.09.08 12:15:00 -
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Good day,
I'd like to congratulate you on a wonderful program . There is one thing I would like to point out though that I saw fairly quick, if a ship has for example 5 turret slots but 6 total high slots you can still fit 6 guns to that ship.
I can be a little picky on details sometimes but It's just something that I wanted to point out just in case it got missed.
Good luck |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2011.09.09 00:39:00 -
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royal killer wrote:Good day, I'd like to congratulate you on a wonderful program . There is one thing I would like to point out though that I saw fairly quick, if a ship has for example 5 turret slots but 6 total high slots you can still fit 6 guns to that ship. I can be a little picky on details sometimes but It's just something that I wanted to point out just in case it got missed. Good luck
You can but there's a little 6/5 thing at top right that goes red to warn you that you're over your turret limit.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
175
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Posted - 2011.09.09 01:00:00 -
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Cameron Zero wrote:It does look pretty. A question, though:
Why use this over EFT? Because I can get this one to run on my phoneGǪ
GǪalthough, admittedly, the UI becomes pretty horrible at those resolutions and without any special concessions for touch interfaces and gestures. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
9
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Posted - 2011.09.16 06:30:00 -
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Cameron Zero wrote:Why use this over EFT? Gripen has done a great job with EFT, but it doesn't run that well under linux (nor mac?), and personally I prefer open source projects where others can take over the development work when/if the developer(s) get a job/family/rage quit/und so weiter.
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
128
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Posted - 2011.09.16 15:21:00 -
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Needs to be able to apply fleet bonuses from an imported character or ship setup. This is the only feature I have missed since switching from EFT. |
Trellios
Finding Karma
0
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Posted - 2011.09.19 06:21:00 -
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Wonderful program definitely prefer it to anything else.
However I do have a couple of questions. The main issue I'm seeing is that my cap stability is not showing as I expect it to. For instance my current ship is showing 38.5% cap stability in Pyfa, 47% in Eft and 43.7% in Eve. I've double checked my setups and both have all implants included. I've definitely found Eft to show more than what I actually get in game but Pyfa so far is showing lower on the two ships I've checked.
Also would it be possible to have cap bonus showing on cap upgrade modules (ie. cap recharger).
Of course in the scheme of things this is a wonderfully aesthetic program and I really like what it does so these are just ideas.
Thank you for the hard work
Trel |
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