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Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2007.11.29 22:22:00 - [271] i think you got it
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.29 23:28:00 - [272] Let us thank god that the Finnish are in the EU. Also, the sun never set's on the British Empire..... .....because God is scared of being left in the dark with it. Rate my charecters please - 2M isk for a good review for the first 3 people!!
Jupiter Sun	Posted - 2007.11.30 04:22:00 - [273] oh god, that simo chap...very scary O_o
Ione Hunt 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:58:00 - [274] Probably the Swiss who get to play with the newest toys even though they will never fire at an enemy. The Norwegians will have FraXy in a month, so they'll have the best tank as long as the squad helps remote repping instead of using nano setups on their hummers. All in all military sucks and it would be cool if we could solve our issues without having to blow eachothers heads of. _______________
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:43:00 - [275] Originally by: Ione Hunt Probably the Swiss who get to play with the newest toys even though they will never fire at an enemy. The Norwegians will have FraXy in a month, so they'll have the best tank as long as the squad helps remote repping instead of using nano setups on their hummers. All in all military sucks and it would be cool if we could solve our issues without having to blow eachothers heads of. Yeah, that'll happen Go ahead.... solve his issues Originally by: ISD Valorem The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues. Weekly quote: "No flying machine will ever fly from New York to Paris." ~Orville Wright.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:57:00 - [276] Bomb-belts are so 2003 and that beard... Clearly he needs a visit from the What Not To Wear girls. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.30 12:01:00 - [277] I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? Rate my charecters please - 2M isk for a good review for the first 3 people!!
Der Komissar	Posted - 2007.11.30 14:00:00 - [278] Originally by: Kirjava I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? Guess you haven't watched that "Blueprint for World Domination" documentary (or what was it called?)
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.11.30 14:08:00 - [279] Originally by: Kirjava I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? I don't see whay that would be so hard... My Current Project
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.30 14:14:00 - [280] Originally by: Der Komissar Originally by: Kirjava I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? Guess you haven't watched that "Blueprint for World Domination" documentary (or what was it called?) Nope, I dont realy watch much TV, is it on youtube? Rate my charecters please - 2M isk for a good review for the first 3 people!!
NightHaunter Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.30 15:14:00 - [281] I hate these stupid ***** threads. I mean FFS, if we are going to have a completely hypothetical, meaningless debate, atleast post some criteria for "bestes armiez in teh wurlds" for us, **.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.30 15:16:00 - [282] Originally by: NightHaunter I hate these stupid ***** threads. I mean FFS, if we are going to have a completely hypothetical, meaningless debate, atleast post some criteria for "bestes armiez in teh wurlds" for us, **. My suggestion, make a thread where people with a similar mindset can whine about it - this topic was made so people who like hypothetical meaningless debate to have a hypothetical meaningless debate without dereailing other topics. Rate my charecters please - 2M isk for a good review for the first 3 people!!
NightHaunter Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.30 15:32:00 - [283] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: NightHaunter I hate these stupid ***** threads. I mean FFS, if we are going to have a completely hypothetical, meaningless debate, atleast post some criteria for "bestes armiez in teh wurlds" for us, **. My suggestion, make a thread where people with a similar mindset can whine about it - this topic was made so people who like hypothetical meaningless debate to have a hypothetical meaningless debate without dereailing other topics. In that case.... Japan wins, they got super mecha robots afterall.
Valan The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.30 17:21:00 - [284] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Kirjava I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? I don't see whay that would be so hard... Dude we've been arguing on how to weigh potatoes for god knows how many years. Us backward Brits are having none of it. I'm sure most of the UK think that various european countries have tried to invade in the past and failed so they created the EU lol. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.30 17:39:00 - [285] Originally by: Valan Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Kirjava I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? I don't see whay that would be so hard... Dude we've been arguing on how to weigh potatoes for god knows how many years. Us backward Brits are having none of it. I'm sure most of the UK think that various european countries have tried to invade in the past and failed so they created the EU lol. Im still positive that its another German ploy to create a superstate!. They tried it twice using guns now their doing it using cloak and dagger politics, once we hand over law making powers to ' Brussels' (aka Germany) its game over man game over! The Real Eve FanFest
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.11.30 17:46:00 - [286] Originally by: Valan Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Kirjava I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? I don't see whay that would be so hard... Dude we've been arguing on how to weigh potatoes for god knows how many years. Us backward Brits are having none of it. I'm sure most of the UK think that various european countries have tried to invade in the past and failed so they created the EU lol. Besides the fact that there is dozens of different languages, both written and oral, tactics and views on how a military should focus its efforts (i.e. UK would focus mainly on naval power as they are an island nation, where are Luxemburg (sp?) is land locked and has no need for a navy, etc.), there is nothing at all keeping the EU nations from forming a large multi-national army.
Thorliaron	Posted - 2007.11.30 18:07:00 - [287] They say this Christmas the likely hood of a dirty bomb in london is quite big after 3 men where arrested in Slovakia (i think) for selling nuclear materials.
Abraham Azadian Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.30 18:08:00 - [288] Originally by: Captain Hudson Im still positive that its another German ploy to create a superstate!. They tried it twice using guns now their doing it using cloak and dagger politics, once we hand over law making powers to ' Brussels' (aka Germany) its game over man game over! The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility.As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen world! Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible **... me!
Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.30 18:09:00 - [289] Edited by: Captain Hudson on 30/11/2007 18:15:06 Originally by: Achuramale Originally by: Harald Normansson So true. Also, Simo HSyhS Yep he has the most kills of any sniper counting all modern wars since WW1. 542 confirmed kills and rumored another 200 from fighting with his SMG in hand. Wierd i thought this dude was the pwn in sniper warfare or Mikhail Surkov with his 702 kills? Edit - he is the pwn The Real Eve FanFest
Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.30 18:11:00 - [290] Originally by: Abraham Azadian Originally by: Captain Hudson Im still positive that its another German ploy to create a superstate!. They tried it twice using guns now their doing it using cloak and dagger politics, once we hand over law making powers to ' Brussels' (aka Germany) its game over man game over! The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility.As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen world! The Real Eve FanFest
Valan The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.30 18:15:00 - [291] Originally by: Abraham Azadian Originally by: Captain Hudson Im still positive that its another German ploy to create a superstate!. They tried it twice using guns now their doing it using cloak and dagger politics, once we hand over law making powers to ' Brussels' (aka Germany) its game over man game over! The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility.As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen world! Towards the end that looks like an alt post on COAD. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.11.30 18:49:00 - [292] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Kirjava I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years? I don't see whay that would be so hard... Originally by: "http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/02/0222_050222_translation.html" The European Union has been operating in 20 official languages since ten new member states joined the legislative body last year. With annual translation costs set to rise to 1.3 billion dollars (U.S.), some people question whether EU institutions are becoming overburdened by multilingualism. That might be an issue, they have weighty domestic agendas/social programs. The capital to fund their military might be scarce. Also the overhead of organization due too multilingualism, plus little cultural differences that may happen might be major impediments. Bitter Competition among countries as to which technology to buy for the EU army standard. I can see alot of places for collision. The States are pretty much European like countries, however the States all seceded the notion of nation defense to one entity. The EU will have to be more like the US to achieve one army I think. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Father Weebles	Posted - 2007.11.30 21:10:00 - [293] Edited by: Father Weebles on 30/11/2007 21:12:20 As an American I can safely say that our military would kick ass against any other standing army hypothetically. There's not a chance that one single country could invade the continental US since we have the biggest navy in the world. One thing we do not have is morale. If the enemy kills just a handful of our soldiers we cringe and bend over. So unless a military beats our navy and invades the States, expect nothing but fancy weaponry and nothing else. Fancy weaponry might even be pushing it. Look at the crapiness of the m16 and the fact it's been in service for over 40 years. "You leave anything for us?" "Just bodies."
Ademaro Imre Caldari Eye of God	Posted - 2007.11.30 22:39:00 - [294] Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 30/11/2007 22:40:03 Originally by: Father Weebles Edited by: Father Weebles on 30/11/2007 21:12:20 As an American I can safely say that our military would kick ass against any other standing army hypothetically. There's not a chance that one single country could invade the continental US since we have the biggest navy in the world. One thing we do not have is morale. If the enemy kills just a handful of our soldiers we cringe and bend over. So unless a military beats our navy and invades the States, expect nothing but fancy weaponry and nothing else. Fancy weaponry might even be pushing it. Look at the crapiness of the m16 and the fact it's been in service for over 40 years. The US has far more moral than other nations, even continents. Some nations whose newspapers prints cartoons of Mohammad buckle under the pressure of protests thousands of miles away. Some nations are so fearful, they are barely able to provide even peace keeping troops or send their soldier abroad. One nation had their railway bombed once, and effectively surrended to the demands of Al Qaeda. The M16 is not crappy. Why do people keep on confusing today's M16A2 with the M16A1?
Thorliaron	Posted - 2007.12.01 01:16:00 - [295] Edited by: Thorliaron on 01/12/2007 01:18:38 Originally by: Ademaro Imre Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 30/11/2007 22:40:03 Originally by: Father Weebles Edited by: Father Weebles on 30/11/2007 21:12:20 As an American I can safely say that our military would kick ass against any other standing army hypothetically. There's not a chance that one single country could invade the continental US since we have the biggest navy in the world. One thing we do not have is morale. If the enemy kills just a handful of our soldiers we cringe and bend over. So unless a military beats our navy and invades the States, expect nothing but fancy weaponry and nothing else. Fancy weaponry might even be pushing it. Look at the crapiness of the m16 and the fact it's been in service for over 40 years. The US has far more moral than other nations, even continents. Some nations whose newspapers prints cartoons of Mohammad buckle under the pressure of protests thousands of miles away. Some nations are so fearful, they are barely able to provide even peace keeping troops or send their soldier abroad. One nation had their railway bombed once, and effectively surrended to the demands of Al Qaeda. The M16 is not crappy. Why do people keep on confusing today's M16A2 with the M16A1? Yeah because we are tierd of blowing stuff up and having our stuff blown up, Europe had pretty much been in a constant state of war since the Roman Empire up until 1945 when WW2 ended, even did the whole middle east thing like 7 times. We have no need to go blow people up, two European Countries waged one war for like 1/6 of the time your country has even been around. You guys don't know what it's like having war on your door step.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.12.01 01:30:00 - [296] Originally by: Thorliaron Edited by: Thorliaron on 01/12/2007 01:18:38 Originally by: Ademaro Imre Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 30/11/2007 22:40:03 Originally by: Father Weebles Edited by: Father Weebles on 30/11/2007 21:12:20 As an American I can safely say that our military would kick ass against any other standing army hypothetically. There's not a chance that one single country could invade the continental US since we have the biggest navy in the world. One thing we do not have is morale. If the enemy kills just a handful of our soldiers we cringe and bend over. So unless a military beats our navy and invades the States, expect nothing but fancy weaponry and nothing else. Fancy weaponry might even be pushing it. Look at the crapiness of the m16 and the fact it's been in service for over 40 years. The US has far more moral than other nations, even continents. Some nations whose newspapers prints cartoons of Mohammad buckle under the pressure of protests thousands of miles away. Some nations are so fearful, they are barely able to provide even peace keeping troops or send their soldier abroad. One nation had their railway bombed once, and effectively surrended to the demands of Al Qaeda. The M16 is not crappy. Why do people keep on confusing today's M16A2 with the M16A1? Yeah because we are tierd of blowing stuff up and having our stuff blown up, Europe had pretty much been in a constant state of war since the Roman Empire up until 1945 when WW2 ended, even did the whole middle east thing like 7 times. We have no need to go blow people up, two European Countries waged one war for like 1/6 of the time your country has even been around. You guys don't know what it's like having war on your door step. This. Americans seem to think war is a fun, exciting thing. They've never had any of their cities leveled to the ground while they hid in subway tunnels, praying to whatever god might be listening that the roof wouldn't collapse and crush them to death. One group of militants take down two buildings and they are up in arms like its the worst thing to happen in the history of humanity. Europe, which has seen this happen dozens of times over during the course of World War 2, suggests moderation and a level head. What do the Americans do? Bomb Afghanistan. But bombing Afghanistan didn't put those buildings back up, and no one found a dead *****, so one of the US Generals stood on one foot and spun in a circle with his finger and arm extended. Sadly, he stopped in the direction of Iraq, and here we are.
sbreach Gallente PezCo - Ice Services Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.01 01:35:00 - [297] I would say the best military of the world, is one supported by the best diplomats and politicians of the world. The pen is oft mightier than the sword. While diplomats and politicians wield abilities on a battlefield other than to get in the way of troops. surely avoiding a war or being able to join the side with the superior military is essentially the best. Everybody loses something in war, so if you can make it so you never go to war, id assume that as the best victory possible. I can't for the love of me, think though of an successful example of this, perhaps testament to its effectiveness.
Thorliaron	Posted - 2007.12.01 02:19:00 - [298] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 01/12/2007 02:12:19 Originally by: Derovius Vaden This. Americans seem to think war is a fun, exciting thing. They've never had any of their cities leveled to the ground while they hid in subway tunnels, praying to whatever god might be listening that the roof wouldn't collapse and crush them to death. You really have no idea what Americans think. Americans go to war to prevent having to go through these sorts of things. Through the 60's the US was still having air raid drills in schools, knowing the dangers. That you think Americans think war is fun, is just a continuation of your obsession to hate Americans. Quote: One group of militants take down two buildings and they are up in arms like its the worst thing to happen in the history of humanity. Europe, which has seen this happen dozens of times over during the course of World War 2, suggests moderation and a level head. What do the Americans do? Bomb Afghanistan. But bombing Afghanistan didn't put those buildings back up, and no one found a dead ***, so one of the US Generals stood on one foot and spun in a circle with his finger and arm extended. Sadly, he stopped in the direction of Iraq, and here we are. Maybe your Canada would take it lying down, but the US doesn't. And the US maintains a military force to fight back. If Al Qaeda did this to any nation except the US, there would be no response (except for Russia to carpet bombs and barrage cities to rubble). Unless that response included daily trips by diplomats to the US begging for military cooperation to take on the brunt of the military effort, there would be no fighting back. Your excuse of needing a "level head" and moderation is stated, because its the absolutely only thing that any nation, or group of nations in Europe and North America can do without the backing of the USA. Its your only option. Your options leave religious nuts still in place in Afganistan. Because the US does have close ties with the UK, the US would help them I suppose because they are the only European nation that makes any real effort to field a credible world military force. Whatever general you are talking about - actually spun his finger through 17 UN resolutions Iraq ignored, thumbed through the history of Iraq invading Kuwait, using chemical weapons, and stating their purpose to create NBC weapons, and Iraq violating the terms of the cease-fire. Not doing anything would be something like what Europe did in the 30's, leads by the likes of Neville Chamberlain. History should have learned its lesson. But - Europe would seems to be happy with Iraq and Iran free to develop and depoly nuclear weapons**. You won't have to fear the ceilings crashing in on you anymore. Because we did not really have a issue with them, they dont say they want to wipe Europe of the map but they do say that about America and Isreal. Even the French where getting a nice oil deal off Sadam.
Ademaro Imre Caldari Eye of God	Posted - 2007.12.01 02:27:00 - [299] Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 01/12/2007 02:29:27 Originally by: Thorliaron Because we did not really have a issue with them, they dont say they want to wipe Europe of the map but they do say that about America and Isreal. Even the French where getting a nice oil deal off Sadam. You are a target though. The whole world is their target. If the US at some point "surrenders" to all of the demands of Al Qaeda. Do you think they will put down their arms? Their target is Israel and the US' military support of them. Israel would not exist today without the direct assistance of the US military ware. Israel would not have the equipment they have now to paste any nation near them that attacks them. If the US falls, or if the US becomes like Canada, small military and a weak foreign diplomacy/interferance, the target would be the financial centers of Europe; France, Germany and the UK. (I am not busting on Canada, when a nation buys used leaking subarines, they are not dedicated to a top-of-the-line fighting force)
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.12.01 02:43:00 - [300] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 01/12/2007 02:44:04 Originally by: Thorliaron Because we did not really have a issue with them, they dont say they want to wipe Europe of the map but they do say that about America and Isreal. Even the French where getting a nice oil deal off Sadam. Well...that is only because the US is the primary stumbling block to Islam. A position the rest of Europe is happy to let it do as then they do not have to spend money on propping up fireblocks like Israel. If the US decided to become isolationist and just sit between two large ponds and let the rest of the world go its own way you can bet your bottom that the Middle East would become a European problem. Last time America went all isolationist we got WWII. UK and France appeased Germany FAR too much as Adolf did his thing. By the time they realized their mistake it was far too late. And frankly the French will sell anything to anybody. There are a number of times where the US is trying to stop tech transfers (e.g. nuclear stuff or modern planes) where France happily walks in and build them a reactor or sells them fighters.

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