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GM Retrofire
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.11.28 18:48:00 -
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Before everyone start downloading the new trinity client ( released soon ) we suggest you do the following before doing so.
Update your drivers and install the latest update for DirectX
Here are links for you guys to use for your hardware.
Graphic Cards:
nVidia
ATI
DirectX and Windows:
DirectX web installer
DirectX End User Runtime ( if the web installer reports everything updated when it isn't )
WindowsUpdate ( fixes a lot of issues for players in many cases )
Soundcards:
Soundblaster
Realtek
SoundMax
M-Audio ( Formerly Midiman )
C-Media
Hercules
nForce
Chipset drivers:
SiS
Via
nForce
After updating your drivers you can run the following utility that detects if your graphics card can indeed run the Premium client
Shader Model 3 checker
Do note that even if you can run the Premium client the rest of your hardware could not be up to the task. Even though the graphics card is the primary hardware here the rest of your hardware needs to be powerful as well. You may suffer hickups which will require you to tone down your graphical settings, the classic client will always be an option for you if you feel the Premium client isn't running as you hoped.
The premium client is now available on SiSi so you can test it out before release.
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SengH
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.28 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: SengH on 28/11/2007 18:55:42
Premium client runs fine. Multiple premium clients run crappy. Trying to use the vista windows+tab to view multiple 3d accelerated windows simultaneously for multi accounting sends fps down the crapper. Dunno whose fault it is but i'll experiment more when i get home.
1920x1200
Running 8600 GTS SLI
Vista-64bit
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William Darkk
Gallente
Vengeance of the Fallen
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.28 19:09:00 -
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No, because the mac version won't be out until next year.
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Kenneth McCoy
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.28 19:34:00 -
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 Originally by: SengH
Edited by: SengH on 28/11/2007 18:55:42
Premium client runs fine. Multiple premium clients run crappy. Trying to use the vista windows+tab to view multiple 3d accelerated windows simultaneously for multi accounting sends fps down the crapper. Dunno whose fault it is but i'll experiment more when i get home.
1920x1200
Running 8600 GTS SLI
Vista-64bit
Frankly, I couldn't care less if multiple clients run well. All you should be worried about is one.
Get a buddy to fly with you, people controlling multiple toons simultaenously always did **** me off.
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SkyLander
Minmatar
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.28 20:03:00 -
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Extreme shadows sends things down the drain when you get more than one ship on a screen at a time and that is with an 8800GTS. Kind of odd to be able to run Crysis at Very High just fine at 1680x1050 yet EVE I get 20fps.
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Captain Campion
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.11.28 20:11:00 -
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hmm, yesterday i kinda could, but the models looked rubbish and nothing like the previews. and today there was some other update, and now i just get a big transparent window that i cant do anything with...... 
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Cypherous
Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.11.28 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: SkyLander
Extreme shadows sends things down the drain when you get more than one ship on a screen at a time and that is with an 8800GTS. Kind of odd to be able to run Crysis at Very High just fine at 1680x1050 yet EVE I get 20fps.
Same issue with shadows on my 8800GTX theres definately something wrong with them :(
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Threv Echandari
Caldari
Dragons Of Redemption
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.28 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Threv Echandari on 28/11/2007 20:46:56
First off I have run both the Trinity Client with an without the Premium Client. My system is:
Dual core 6600
2GB Corsair DDR2 800
ASUS P5n SLI MoBo
Built in Realtek HD Audio
Dual 7900 GT
All tests were done in Single card mode.
Trinity- Classic All effects on 1650 X 1280 avg FPS 140-150 in JU- between 95 and 120 in FD-
Trinity- Premium With HDR on and all settings maxed and shadows at extreme, I got between 17-20FPS, Very Jerky zooming and panning. System was FD-, avg number of users in system 200
Sound was on in both cases though turning the sound off only resulted in a gain of about 2-5 fps (Well within my testing margins. and threfore no real diffrence.
with The Trinity Client Running in Classic mode and the Tranquility Production Client running at the same time Avge FPS for both instances (running in a Window) was 20 FPS.
FPS on the TQ client improved when running in FS mode
SLI mode testuing has not been done yet. I also have yet to to do good testing with the Trinity Premium Client wit he lower settings. (I also did this prior to this mornings SIS I Patch.
I love the look of Trinity Premium, With HDR on it looks wet and delicious. Too bad FSAA and HRD doesn't work yet.
On a separate note: if the BITs download of the Premium client gets corrupted there is no way of Restarting it. its just asks you to install it and then Bombs out repeatedly. I hade to find the super Secret Full Classic to Premium Patch and Upgrade it that way.
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3rdD Dave
Gallente
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2007.11.28 20:48:00 -
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I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen.
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Cailais
Amarr
W A R
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Posted - 2007.11.28 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: 3rdD Dave
I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen.
Ah but were those games uninstanced MMOs with hundreds in the same 'room' all pew pewing each other?
C.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
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Sleepkevert
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Posted - 2007.11.28 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: GM Retrofire
NVIDIA GeForce 8800
NVIDIA GeForce 8600
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M
NVIDIA GeForce 8500
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M
NVIDIA GeForce 8400
NVIDIA GeForce 7950
NVIDIA GeForce 7900 (Go)
NVIDIA GeForce 7800
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 (Go)
NVIDIA GeForce 7500
NVIDIA GeForce 7400 (Go)
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 (Go)
NVIDIA GeForce 6800
NVIDIA GeForce 6600
NVIDIA GeForce 6200
NVIDIA GeForce 6100
ATI Radeon HD 2900
ATI Radeon HD 2600
ATI Radeon X1950
ATI Radeon X1900
ATI Radeon X1800
ATI Radeon X1650
ATI Radeon X1600
ATI Radeon X1300
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
Made your list a bit more logical 
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3rdD Dave
Gallente
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: 3rdD Dave
I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen.
Ah but were those games uninstanced MMOs with hundreds in the same 'room' all pew pewing each other?
C.
erm no but Battelfield 2 has 64 player maps all pew pewing with incredible graphics and sound/collisions/physics etc. Currently on SISI im near Agil by myself and the FPS is just bloody horrible and there's no one here.
Can you give me a rational for that? Infact most ppl in this thread or the other threads have complained about FPS outside of big gangs, as in going to belts to kill rats, 1v1s 2V2 etc.. I dont see how everyone in the same system affect my FPS unless your chatting server lag which im not. Im simply asking why does EVE require such powerful hardware considering all it has to actually draw on screen COMPARED to some games.
I dont know, thats why i ask.
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Mina Morticia
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:18:00 -
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Does this mean Trinity wont work with my ATI x700?
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Mina Morticia
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:21:00 -
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Will trinity work with ATI x700?
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Asestorian
Domination.
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mina Morticia
Will trinity work with ATI x700?
No. Not with the new graphical content anyway.
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Mina Morticia
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:30:00 -
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So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards?
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mina Morticia
So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards?
Kinda answered your own question, no?
But I feel your heartache, my laptop can't handle this **** at all... I have no isk! I mean dollars!
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Mina Morticia
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:35:00 -
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Is the new graphical content mandatory? Or will only certain features be supported by those cards?
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Sleepkevert
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sleepkevert on 28/11/2007 23:36:17
Originally by: Mina Morticia
So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards?
You will be able to play EVE even without a new card, just without all the new shiny content.
To enjoy that, you indeed need a new card.
Originally by: Mina Morticia
Is the new graphical content mandatory? Or will only certain features be supported by those cards?
No it isn't mandatory. If you don't have it, you will just be using the "old" models (the ones that are on TQ now)
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Coconut Joe
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.11.28 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mina Morticia
So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards?
oooooor... you could buy a new card and a new power unit?
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Thicky McThick
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Posted - 2007.11.29 00:43:00 -
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Can I suggest that people make a system restore point before downloading and installing any new drivers and software. This gives you a sporting chance of getting your computer up and running again if it all goes to XXXX and will save a lot of heartache.
XP I think you will find it from START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS/SYSTEM RESTORE
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Cyborg3201
Caldari
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.29 00:51:00 -
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How much harddrive space is needed for the new clients + there visuel stuff
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Cypherous
Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.11.29 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cyborg3201
How much harddrive space is needed for the new clients + there visuel stuff
Well my installs sit like this for reference.
1.72GB TQ Install
3.23GB SISI Install with new content applied
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.11.29 02:17:00 -
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Here's an interesting question for the powers involved.
What will the new ship's models be like for those of us running classic? I.e., the Phobos, the Devoter, all these ships that I doubt have been made 'classic'.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.29 02:57:00 -
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Big problem here....Seems that the high end DX9 content no longer works with my system,after todays 132MB patch was released and i updated to that in order to play on the test server...
I have the latest drivers for my video card installed(X2900XT/Catalyst 7.11),as well as the latest version of direct X(November 2007 release),latest chipset drivers too,but after this smaller patch,nothing displays on the monitor itself,but there is an eve related process running,since it's listed on the task manager and is using 60MB.
Going to check to see if there's any updates on Microsoft update,but failing that,there has to be a problem with that 132MB,as everything was running great yesterday with the DX9 client.
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Alaris
Caldari
GaIaxy PoIice
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Posted - 2007.11.29 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Threv Echandari
Edited by: Threv Echandari on 28/11/2007 20:46:56
Trinity- Premium With HDR on and all settings maxed and shadows at extreme, I got between 17-20FPS, Very Jerky zooming and panning. System was FD-, avg number of users in system 200
I love the look of Trinity Premium, With HDR on it looks wet and delicious. Too bad FSAA and HRD doesn't work yet.
I noticed the same with extreme shadows.. seems to tank going from normal/high to extreme where high works perfectly fine. I was also able to apply AA with HDR by manually forcing the "00000045: Oblivion (AA & HDR)" Anti-Aliasing compatibility settings in nHancer.
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VicturusTeSaluto
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Posted - 2007.11.29 03:45:00 -
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the currently sisi build is buggy enough without the new client. It constantly crashes for me(I'm also fairly certain that it has a memory leak as well), so I have yet to try the new content.
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Jenessa
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.29 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
the currently sisi build is buggy enough without the new client. It constantly crashes for me(I'm also fairly certain that it has a memory leak as well), so I have yet to try the new content.
Yup, having problems with it too, whole client just locks up totally. Seems to happen more as I'm logging in. I'd say that 1 in 3 logins results in client crashing atm.
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Seraphax
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.11.29 04:21:00 -
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i cant even download the bloody premium content package due to some version error ...
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Acrea
Gallente
Southern Cross Incorporated
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.29 04:54:00 -
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Running a Toshiba WXW series laptop, thats the Japanese verion of the one with the 8700GT 256MB in it, not the greatest, but I run the premium client at 1680x1050 at higher fps than the original, as long as I have shadows set to normal, upping shadows eats a lot of framerate. Bloom also eats some framerate but not NEARLY as much as shadows. Setting shadows to extreme drops my framerate to below 20, setting it to normal leaves me in the 70-100+ range. Bloom makes my framerate drop with about 10 frames per bloom intensity level.
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