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GM Retrofire Game Masters	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:48:00 - [1] Before everyone start downloading the new trinity client ( released soon ) we suggest you do the following before doing so. Update your drivers and install the latest update for DirectX Here are links for you guys to use for your hardware. Graphic Cards: nVidia ATI DirectX and Windows: DirectX web installer DirectX End User Runtime ( if the web installer reports everything updated when it isn't ) WindowsUpdate ( fixes a lot of issues for players in many cases ) Soundcards: Soundblaster Realtek SoundMax M-Audio ( Formerly Midiman ) C-Media Hercules nForce Chipset drivers: SiS Via nForce After updating your drivers you can run the following utility that detects if your graphics card can indeed run the Premium client Shader Model 3 checker Do note that even if you can run the Premium client the rest of your hardware could not be up to the task. Even though the graphics card is the primary hardware here the rest of your hardware needs to be powerful as well. You may suffer hickups which will require you to tone down your graphical settings, the classic client will always be an option for you if you feel the Premium client isn't running as you hoped. The premium client is now available on SiSi so you can test it out before release.

SengH Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:55:00 - [2] Edited by: SengH on 28/11/2007 18:55:42 Premium client runs fine. Multiple premium clients run crappy. Trying to use the vista windows+tab to view multiple 3d accelerated windows simultaneously for multi accounting sends fps down the crapper. Dunno whose fault it is but i'll experiment more when i get home. 1920x1200 Running 8600 GTS SLI Vista-64bit
William Darkk Gallente Vengeance of the Fallen Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.28 19:09:00 - [3] No, because the mac version won't be out until next year. -------------------------------------------------- <3 my Drones
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.28 19:34:00 - [4] Originally by: SengH Edited by: SengH on 28/11/2007 18:55:42 Premium client runs fine. Multiple premium clients run crappy. Trying to use the vista windows+tab to view multiple 3d accelerated windows simultaneously for multi accounting sends fps down the crapper. Dunno whose fault it is but i'll experiment more when i get home. 1920x1200 Running 8600 GTS SLI Vista-64bit Frankly, I couldn't care less if multiple clients run well. All you should be worried about is one. Get a buddy to fly with you, people controlling multiple toons simultaenously always did **** me off. My opinions and views are not the official views of my Corp.
SkyLander Minmatar Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:03:00 - [5] Extreme shadows sends things down the drain when you get more than one ship on a screen at a time and that is with an 8800GTS. Kind of odd to be able to run Crysis at Very High just fine at 1680x1050 yet EVE I get 20fps. __________________________________________________
Captain Campion Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:11:00 - [6] hmm, yesterday i kinda could, but the models looked rubbish and nothing like the previews. and today there was some other update, and now i just get a big transparent window that i cant do anything with......
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:15:00 - [7] Originally by: SkyLander Extreme shadows sends things down the drain when you get more than one ship on a screen at a time and that is with an 8800GTS. Kind of odd to be able to run Crysis at Very High just fine at 1680x1050 yet EVE I get 20fps. Same issue with shadows on my 8800GTX theres definately something wrong with them :( --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Threv Echandari Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:46:00 - [8] Edited by: Threv Echandari on 28/11/2007 20:46:56 First off I have run both the Trinity Client with an without the Premium Client. My system is: Dual core 6600 2GB Corsair DDR2 800 ASUS P5n SLI MoBo Built in Realtek HD Audio Dual 7900 GT All tests were done in Single card mode. Trinity- Classic All effects on 1650 X 1280 avg FPS 140-150 in JU- between 95 and 120 in FD- Trinity- Premium With HDR on and all settings maxed and shadows at extreme, I got between 17-20FPS, Very Jerky zooming and panning. System was FD-, avg number of users in system 200 Sound was on in both cases though turning the sound off only resulted in a gain of about 2-5 fps (Well within my testing margins. and threfore no real diffrence. with The Trinity Client Running in Classic mode and the Tranquility Production Client running at the same time Avge FPS for both instances (running in a Window) was 20 FPS. FPS on the TQ client improved when running in FS mode SLI mode testuing has not been done yet. I also have yet to to do good testing with the Trinity Premium Client wit he lower settings. (I also did this prior to this mornings SIS I Patch. I love the look of Trinity Premium, With HDR on it looks wet and delicious. Too bad FSAA and HRD doesn't work yet. On a separate note: if the BITs download of the Premium client gets corrupted there is no way of Restarting it. its just asks you to install it and then Bombs out repeatedly. I hade to find the super Secret Full Classic to Premium Patch and Upgrade it that way.
3rdD Dave Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:48:00 - [9] I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen.
Cailais Amarr W A R	Posted - 2007.11.28 22:36:00 - [10] Originally by: 3rdD Dave I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen. Ah but were those games uninstanced MMOs with hundreds in the same 'room' all pew pewing each other? C. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.

Sleepkevert	Posted - 2007.11.28 22:58:00 - [11] Originally by: GM Retrofire NVIDIA GeForce 8800 NVIDIA GeForce 8600 NVIDIA GeForce 8600M NVIDIA GeForce 8500 NVIDIA GeForce 8400M NVIDIA GeForce 8400 NVIDIA GeForce 7950 NVIDIA GeForce 7900 (Go) NVIDIA GeForce 7800 NVIDIA GeForce 7600 (Go) NVIDIA GeForce 7500 NVIDIA GeForce 7400 (Go) NVIDIA GeForce 7300 (Go) NVIDIA GeForce 6800 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 NVIDIA GeForce 6200 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATI Radeon HD 2900 ATI Radeon HD 2600 ATI Radeon X1950 ATI Radeon X1900 ATI Radeon X1800 ATI Radeon X1650 ATI Radeon X1600 ATI Radeon X1300 ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 Made your list a bit more logical _______ Sign my sig!
3rdD Dave Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:11:00 - [12] Originally by: Cailais Originally by: 3rdD Dave I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen. Ah but were those games uninstanced MMOs with hundreds in the same 'room' all pew pewing each other? C. erm no but Battelfield 2 has 64 player maps all pew pewing with incredible graphics and sound/collisions/physics etc. Currently on SISI im near Agil by myself and the FPS is just bloody horrible and there's no one here. Can you give me a rational for that? Infact most ppl in this thread or the other threads have complained about FPS outside of big gangs, as in going to belts to kill rats, 1v1s 2V2 etc.. I dont see how everyone in the same system affect my FPS unless your chatting server lag which im not. Im simply asking why does EVE require such powerful hardware considering all it has to actually draw on screen COMPARED to some games. I dont know, thats why i ask.
Mina Morticia	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:18:00 - [13] Does this mean Trinity wont work with my ATI x700?
Mina Morticia	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:21:00 - [14] Will trinity work with ATI x700?
Asestorian Domination. Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:27:00 - [15] Originally by: Mina Morticia Will trinity work with ATI x700? No. Not with the new graphical content anyway. --- MOZO
Mina Morticia	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:30:00 - [16] So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards?
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:34:00 - [17] Originally by: Mina Morticia So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards? Kinda answered your own question, no? But I feel your heartache, my laptop can't handle this **** at all... I have no isk! I mean dollars! --
Mina Morticia	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:35:00 - [18] Is the new graphical content mandatory? Or will only certain features be supported by those cards?
Sleepkevert	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:35:00 - [19] Edited by: Sleepkevert on 28/11/2007 23:36:17 Originally by: Mina Morticia So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards? You will be able to play EVE even without a new card, just without all the new shiny content. To enjoy that, you indeed need a new card. Originally by: Mina Morticia Is the new graphical content mandatory? Or will only certain features be supported by those cards? No it isn't mandatory. If you don't have it, you will just be using the "old" models (the ones that are on TQ now) _______ Sign my sig!
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Mina Morticia So I'll have to purchase a new card? Or a new PC since my PCs power supply isn't strong enough to power any of the listed cards? oooooor... you could buy a new card and a new power unit? - Eve IGB Shop Template

Thicky McThick	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:43:00 - [21] Can I suggest that people make a system restore point before downloading and installing any new drivers and software. This gives you a sporting chance of getting your computer up and running again if it all goes to XXXX and will save a lot of heartache. XP I think you will find it from START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS/SYSTEM RESTORE Post with your Alt and not your Main, 'cos I don't care about your Name.
Cyborg3201 Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:51:00 - [22] How much harddrive space is needed for the new clients + there visuel stuff __________________________ Cybernetics in Motion
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Cyborg3201 How much harddrive space is needed for the new clients + there visuel stuff Well my installs sit like this for reference. 1.72GB TQ Install 3.23GB SISI Install with new content applied --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2007.11.29 02:17:00 - [24] Here's an interesting question for the powers involved. What will the new ship's models be like for those of us running classic? I.e., the Phobos, the Devoter, all these ships that I doubt have been made 'classic'. Say no to knee-jerk additions and nerfs, mmkay?
digitalwanderer Gallente Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.11.29 02:57:00 - [25] Big problem here....Seems that the high end DX9 content no longer works with my system,after todays 132MB patch was released and i updated to that in order to play on the test server... I have the latest drivers for my video card installed(X2900XT/Catalyst 7.11),as well as the latest version of direct X(November 2007 release),latest chipset drivers too,but after this smaller patch,nothing displays on the monitor itself,but there is an eve related process running,since it's listed on the task manager and is using 60MB. Going to check to see if there's any updates on Microsoft update,but failing that,there has to be a problem with that 132MB,as everything was running great yesterday with the DX9 client.
Alaris Caldari GaIaxy PoIice	Posted - 2007.11.29 03:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Threv Echandari Edited by: Threv Echandari on 28/11/2007 20:46:56 Trinity- Premium With HDR on and all settings maxed and shadows at extreme, I got between 17-20FPS, Very Jerky zooming and panning. System was FD-, avg number of users in system 200 I love the look of Trinity Premium, With HDR on it looks wet and delicious. Too bad FSAA and HRD doesn't work yet. I noticed the same with extreme shadows.. seems to tank going from normal/high to extreme where high works perfectly fine. I was also able to apply AA with HDR by manually forcing the "00000045: Oblivion (AA & HDR)" Anti-Aliasing compatibility settings in nHancer.
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.11.29 03:45:00 - [27] the currently sisi build is buggy enough without the new client. It constantly crashes for me(I'm also fairly certain that it has a memory leak as well), so I have yet to try the new content.
Jenessa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:20:00 - [28] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto the currently sisi build is buggy enough without the new client. It constantly crashes for me(I'm also fairly certain that it has a memory leak as well), so I have yet to try the new content. Yup, having problems with it too, whole client just locks up totally. Seems to happen more as I'm logging in. I'd say that 1 in 3 logins results in client crashing atm.
Seraphax Caldari Pilots Of Honour	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:21:00 - [29] i cant even download the bloody premium content package due to some version error ...
Acrea Gallente Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:54:00 - [30] Running a Toshiba WXW series laptop, thats the Japanese verion of the one with the 8700GT 256MB in it, not the greatest, but I run the premium client at 1680x1050 at higher fps than the original, as long as I have shadows set to normal, upping shadows eats a lot of framerate. Bloom also eats some framerate but not NEARLY as much as shadows. Setting shadows to extreme drops my framerate to below 20, setting it to normal leaves me in the 70-100+ range. Bloom makes my framerate drop with about 10 frames per bloom intensity level.

Lethaldream	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:23:00 - [31] It appears to me that this engine update has been created with the idea of allowing upward headroom for future hardware improvement as better hardware becomes available to the market. Don't expect to run the new engine on your old Counter Strike chug horse with all the settings jacked to the moon. Isn't gonna happen. In 5 years, however, The average computer will be able to run the client pretty easily. I don't know how many of the people who posted on this thread have been here since beta, but back in 2003, I wasn't running this game at 1920x1200 like I am now. Now I am and it is great. It is a natural evolution. It is only ** pants crybabies that have to have everything now. Now I will build a big hulking quad core with 8800 GT's in SLI and enjoy Eve gaming goodness. Don't expect top level results without top level equipment. By the way...very few machines can run Crysis all the way jacked up either...so that is a ** poor arguement.
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.11.29 06:27:00 - [32] Originally by: SkyLander Extreme shadows sends things down the drain when you get more than one ship on a screen at a time and that is with an 8800GTS. Kind of odd to be able to run Crysis at Very High just fine at 1680x1050 yet EVE I get 20fps. Kinda same for me Quad core processor QX6700, Geforce 8800 gtx, 4gb ram, 2 x Raptor 150gb hdds, 680i mainboard , X-Fi Xtreme Gamer fatal pro sound card All drivers updated, computer Defraged etc... Run the PC games below Maxed out no issues and excellent FPS, (FSX just about maxed) Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare Need for Speed ProStreet Medal of Honor Airborne Enemy Territory - QUAKE Wars Half Life 2.Episode.Two-Unleashed Microsoft Flight Simulator X Crysis And tonight , outside the station in getting 20-40 fps. Inside the Station 60-70fps It should be better FPS since its not a DX10 game where talking about here.... Other people in Local have said the same thing. So I know its not just myself.
Hex'Caliber Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.11.29 08:33:00 - [33] My post is a little more positive, 50 - 60 fps constantly, even on my slightly out of date gaming machine at 1680 x 1050. Amd 4200 X2, 2 gig ddr mem, ati x1950 (agp) graphics card, with shadows set to high, bloom high, and hdr enabled. Have not tested in busy areas yet though so could still take a nosedive. SISI testing ôDonÆt forget to start the log server before the client; the logs are needed for bug reports when something goes wrong.ö Regards HexCaliber
Sleepkevert	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:09:00 - [34] Edited by: Sleepkevert on 29/11/2007 09:11:02 Originally by: Alaris Originally by: Threv Echandari Edited by: Threv Echandari on 28/11/2007 20:46:56 Trinity- Premium With HDR on and all settings maxed and shadows at extreme, I got between 17-20FPS, Very Jerky zooming and panning. System was FD-, avg number of users in system 200 I love the look of Trinity Premium, With HDR on it looks wet and delicious. Too bad FSAA and HRD doesn't work yet. I noticed the same with extreme shadows.. seems to tank going from normal/high to extreme where high works perfectly fine. I was also able to apply AA with HDR by manually forcing the "00000045: Oblivion (AA & HDR)" Anti-Aliasing compatibility settings in nHancer. I'm sooo going to the AA/HDR thing when i get home. Got a link to a guide or something to do this? Originally by: F90OEX It should be better FPS since its not a DX10 game where talking about here.... DX10 or 9 has nothing to do with how calculation heavy a game is... Try setting the shader quality to high instead of extreme and watch your FPS increase _______ Sign my sig!
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:31:00 - [35] ur Realtek for sound link does not work k thx bye!
Umbriele Gallente Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:58:00 - [36] Originally by: Lethaldream It appears to me that this engine update has been created with the idea of allowing upward headroom for future hardware improvement as better hardware becomes available to the market. Don't expect to run the new engine on your old Counter Strike chug horse with all the settings jacked to the moon. Isn't gonna happen. In 5 years, however, The average computer will be able to run the client pretty easily. I don't know how many of the people who posted on this thread have been here since beta, but back in 2003, I wasn't running this game at 1920x1200 like I am now. Now I am and it is great. It is a natural evolution. It is only ** pants crybabies that have to have everything now. Now I will build a big hulking quad core with 8800 GT's in SLI and enjoy Eve gaming goodness. Don't expect top level results without top level equipment. By the way...very few machines can run Crysis all the way jacked up either...so that is a ** poor arguement. AMEN!
Ovno ConSyquence Amarr The Plebians	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:07:00 - [37] Tried it out last night with all the settings turned to max except shadows at 1600x1200 and was getting 80 - 90 fps in station and in space (i was in an empty seeded system in domain). With shadows turned up extreme i was getting 30-40 fps which is about what my old pc used to get on tq. The stats of my pc are... Core2Duo E6750 2gb pc6400 DDR (none dual channel due to flaky motherboard) 8800 gts oc 320mb Also it looks absolutely amazing with hdr turned up to full and at high res you don't need anti-aliasing turned on any way The ships did look a little wrong in the stations as the lighting was global but in space with directional lighting it all looked shiney and nice CCP might want to consider lowering the diffuse lighting and putting in a couple more spot lights in the stations so that the ships look just as good in station as in space
Liam Liam	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Lethaldream It appears to me that this engine update has been created with the idea of allowing upward headroom for future hardware improvement as better hardware becomes available to the market. Don't expect to run the new engine on your old Counter Strike chug horse with all the settings jacked to the moon. Isn't gonna happen. In 5 years, however, The average computer will be able to run the client pretty easily. I don't know how many of the people who posted on this thread have been here since beta, but back in 2003, I wasn't running this game at 1920x1200 like I am now. Now I am and it is great. It is a natural evolution. It is only ** pants crybabies that have to have everything now. Now I will build a big hulking quad core with 8800 GT's in SLI and enjoy Eve gaming goodness. Don't expect top level results without top level equipment. By the way...very few machines can run Crysis all the way jacked up either...so that is a ** poor arguement. I think they're saying that even with top level equipment it can't run very well and while it's nice to know that in 5 years time a good pc will run it well ... this is now and in 5 years time we'll have different patches that won't run well on those machines either. I hope theres an option to run the old stuff even on equipment they say can handle the new graphics, eye candy has never been my priority I have to shut down all the chat windows and reduce most of the graphic options and zoom way out as it is to get decent framerates in even small gang pvp, fleet pos stuff is just a slideshow though it's not bad in missions.

CCP Redundancy	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:18:00 - [39] Extreme shadows uses a 4096x4096 shadow buffer for rendering shadows, which in itself is around 200MB (iirc) of video memory, and means that you're rendering something 17 million pixels of shadow buffer information per ship. The option isn't "high" or "highest that should run fast", it's "extreme". I do not recommend it for standard gameplay.

SFShootme Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.29 12:04:00 - [40] Originally by: CCP Redundancy Extreme shadows uses a 4096x4096 shadow buffer for rendering shadows, which in itself is around 200MB (iirc) of video memory, and means that you're rendering something 17 million pixels of shadow buffer information per ship. The option isn't "high" or "highest that should run fast", it's "extreme". I do not recommend it for standard gameplay. heh, i did indeed see a massive increase setting it to high or mediumc instead of extreme Tho shall give Life, for Life.

Mr Breakfast F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.11.29 12:36:00 - [41] Is there an option to shut shadows off? I'm on a Dell XPS Gen 2 laptop running 2mb RAM and a Geforce 6800. I'm guessing Trinity will run OK but only with settings turned down.
Melor Rend	Posted - 2007.11.29 13:34:00 - [42] Edited by: Melor Rend on 29/11/2007 13:34:33 Originally by: Kenneth McCoy Frankly, I couldn't care less if multiple clients run well. All you should be worried about is one. Get a buddy to fly with you, people controlling multiple toons simultaenously always did **** me off. a) you need a second accoutn to be able to play this game with any comfort.. even if you're only a carebear if you wanna be able to earn ISK with mission in any decent time then you'll want a looting/salvaging alt... if you join a 0.0 corp that may have a war-dec here or there then you'll want a hauler alt etc.etc. b) CCP agrees with me since they provide special bundles called "the power of two" (ie. the power of having to pay 30$ instead of 15$ to play) so dual clienting must be supported by CCP... i mean they are selling us two accounts for exactly this reason. So in my opinion it's very important if you can multiclient or not.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2007.11.29 14:05:00 - [43] Just because you have two accounts doesn't mean you need to run them at once. Say no to knee-jerk additions and nerfs, mmkay?
LiQ'd	Posted - 2007.11.29 14:28:00 - [44] Originally by: Melor Rend Edited by: Melor Rend on 29/11/2007 13:39:06 Edited by: Melor Rend on 29/11/2007 13:34:33 Originally by: Kenneth McCoy Frankly, I couldn't care less if multiple clients run well. All you should be worried about is one. Get a buddy to fly with you, people controlling multiple toons simultaenously always did **** me off. a) you need a second accoutn to be able to play this game with any comfort.. even if you're only a carebear if you wanna be able to earn ISK with mission in any decent time then you'll want a looting/salvaging alt... if you join a 0.0 corp that may have a war-dec here or there then you'll want a hauler alt etc.etc. b) CCP agrees with me since they provide special bundles called "the power of two" (ie. the power of having to pay 30$ instead of 15$ to play) so dual clienting must be supported by CCP... i mean they are selling us two accounts for exactly this reason. So in my opinion it's very important if you can multiclient or not. PS. "toons" = hello kitty online No, CCP just want your money
Jocque	Posted - 2007.11.29 16:12:00 - [45] I had very dissapointing FPS with the new graphics BEFORE I went through that list in the beginning of this thread and updated all my drivers. Now I can run it like smoooooth butter without HDR at 1600x1200. Its funny how drivers seem to re-invigorate your hardware. :) -Joc
OrionXL	Posted - 2007.11.29 16:36:00 - [46] Do you think that EVE new Graphic engin is optimised for a graphic brand in particular? ATI or Nvidia? if yes it could make a diff in Frame per sec in the game no?
Sleepkevert	Posted - 2007.11.29 21:16:00 - [47] Edited by: Sleepkevert on 29/11/2007 21:17:09 Originally by: CCP Redundancy Extreme shadows uses a 4096x4096 shadow buffer for rendering shadows, which in itself is around 200MB (iirc) of video memory, and means that you're rendering something 17 million pixels of shadow buffer information per ship. The option isn't "high" or "highest that should run fast", it's "extreme". I do not recommend it for standard gameplay. 6 FPS with 20 ships... thats 20x4096x4096x6= 2 013 265 920 pixels per second for shadow maps only... Dang video cards are FAST these days... Thanks for including it anyway, should be awesome for making the screenshots we all play EVE for _______ Sign my sig!
digitalwanderer Gallente Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.11.29 23:29:00 - [48] Still no joy getting the premium version to start once i got that 132MB patch yesterday,and all the drivers for my system are the latest available,and i'm using the latest version of Direct X as well...The premium version ran fine just before that 132MB patch yesterday. I'm running Windows XP 64bit and an AMD Quad FX based system with 2 dual core AMD FX 72 CPU's,and an X2900XT video card and 4GB of DDR2 800.
dosperado Denial of Service Freelancer Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.30 01:16:00 - [49] Edited by: dosperado on 30/11/2007 01:18:14 Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: SkyLander Extreme shadows sends things down the drain when you get more than one ship on a screen at a time and that is with an 8800GTS. Kind of odd to be able to run Crysis at Very High just fine at 1680x1050 yet EVE I get 20fps. Kinda same for me Quad core processor QX6700, Geforce 8800 gtx, 4gb ram, 2 x Raptor 150gb hdds, 680i mainboard , X-Fi Xtreme Gamer fatal pro sound card All drivers updated, computer Defraged etc... Run the PC games below Maxed out no issues and excellent FPS, (FSX just about maxed) Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare Need for Speed ProStreet Medal of Honor Airborne Enemy Territory - QUAKE Wars Half Life 2.Episode.Two-Unleashed What's that for a version? pirated? Microsoft Flight Simulator X Crysis And tonight , outside the station in getting 20-40 fps. Inside the Station 60-70fps It should be better FPS since its not a DX10 game where talking about here.... Other people in Local have said the same thing. So I know its not just myself. ____________________ NPC Mass Murderer Highest Security Status 8.5
Tyrantus Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.11.30 05:08:00 - [50] I'd love to see the new stuff on sisi and check the performance now that I just finished putting together my new rig but it seems the premium content button is disabled. Will it be put back up anytime soon?

Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.11.30 06:22:00 - [51] Originally by: dosperado Edited by: dosperado on 30/11/2007 01:18:14 Originally by: F90OEX Originally by: SkyLander Extreme shadows sends things down the drain when you get more than one ship on a screen at a time and that is with an 8800GTS. Kind of odd to be able to run Crysis at Very High just fine at 1680x1050 yet EVE I get 20fps. Kinda same for me Quad core processor QX6700, Geforce 8800 gtx, 4gb ram, 2 x Raptor 150gb hdds, 680i mainboard , X-Fi Xtreme Gamer fatal pro sound card All drivers updated, computer Defraged etc... Run the PC games below Maxed out no issues and excellent FPS, (FSX just about maxed) Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare Need for Speed ProStreet Medal of Honor Airborne Enemy Territory - QUAKE Wars Half Life 2.Episode.Two-Unleashed What's that for a version? pirated? Microsoft Flight Simulator X Crysis And tonight , outside the station in getting 20-40 fps. Inside the Station 60-70fps It should be better FPS since its not a DX10 game where talking about here.... Other people in Local have said the same thing. So I know its not just myself. Busted!
Hieronim Wilde Amarr Decapsuleers Unlimited	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:57:00 - [52] Edited by: Hieronim Wilde on 30/11/2007 11:05:32 Hi, just to give people info, Trinity was tested on Singularity with the following : CONFIGURATION Asus P4P800-SE Pentium IV @ 2.8Ghz \| no overcloak 1.5 Go Ram nVIDIA 6800GS 256Mo (AGP 8X) \| Drivers 163.75 HD Maxtor 80Go (S-ATA 1) Windows XP SP2 (up to date) \| DirectX9 from november Antivir Personnal, Pidgin, Foobar & Firefox active at the time of the test. INGAME OPTIONS rq: I use almost same settings in TQ 1680x1050 Fullscreen (24 bits everywhere + 8 bits) All Effects ON Tails OFF (don't like it) Sun Occluded By Ships ON Station Environment ON Use LOD ON Dither (what is this please?) ON (?!?) Shadows NORMAL HDR OFF Interval immediate AA at 0 or 2 (4 on TQ) FPS RESULTS In order to try to be 'neutral' in my opinion, I will lower my fps results a little little little (yeah I know, it's not 'being neutral'). That's to prevent from being to enthousiastic. In station I get 15 to 30-40 fps on Sisi. In TQ I have 80-100 fps. Undocked, near station Suprise, I have 30-60 fps which is at least equal to what I get with TQ (in fact I think Trinity is even better -gain from 2 to 10 fps in that case). I did the test both in TQ and Sisi near station with 1 or 2 people outside, not more. Once, in Sisi I got a problem charging the texture for the Station so Station appears invisible for 10 seconds then appears :) It happens on my first Sisi connection then no problem. Warping 40-70 fps. Same as in TQ. Maybe better on Sisi... Jumpgates When the warp finishes, before getting close to the gate, i get a 1-3 sec freeze like if my HD was charging textures (of stargates & concord ships -about 20 of them) then again a suprise : 30-50 fps at the gate (same as in TQ for me maybe even better on Sisi). I GOT TO SAY... Imho, CCP did great job with Trinity. I got a quite small config (not so bad though) but I have the impression Trinity could be smoother than in my actual TQ installation. But because I have no friends, I did not have the opportunity to test the most important thing on Eve : PvP & gangs. So I'll wait till 6/12 to try PvP with corpmates and finish my review. Also it was my first time on Sisi and I got some problems that I guess are 'normal' (or not) because it's not the best of the two servers I guess : - Station 'not loading' when undocked so station appears invisible for +-10 seconds. - Since the 140Mo patch (& the one from yesterday) for Sisi, unable to charge the game entirely, the progress bar 'freezes' a long time at 'entering station'. I got to reboot and in order to play on Sisi I have to put back classic (old textures) graphics. - When connecting to Sisi inspace, sometimes unable to see my ship with premium content (even after 10 minutes) and unable to see jumpgate animations at the same time. - Lag (client I guess) in station (as said before). - Little (2-3s -but longer than in TQ) freezes when arriving at a JumpGate in order to charge textures (from my HD) I guess. Well, otherwise... beautiful. If on thursday 6 I got with the new engine and new textures as fps as I got in TQ now (even in gang) I'll not know how to thank CCP more... exept by keep going on with Eve for another year. So good luck to all of you players and to CCP.
Grez Minmatar e X i l e Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.11.30 12:55:00 - [53] Originally by: CCP Redundancy Extreme shadows uses a 4096x4096 shadow buffer for rendering shadows. Originally by: CCP Redundancy 4096x4096 shadow buffer --- Have a rawr on me.
Triksterism Gallente Image Not Found	Posted - 2007.11.30 13:22:00 - [54] Originally by: Acrea Running a Toshiba WXW series laptop, thats the Japanese verion of the one with the 8700GT 256MB in it, not the greatest, but I run the premium client at 1680x1050 at higher fps than the original, as long as I have shadows set to normal, upping shadows eats a lot of framerate. Bloom also eats some framerate but not NEARLY as much as shadows. Setting shadows to extreme drops my framerate to below 20, setting it to normal leaves me in the 70-100+ range. Bloom makes my framerate drop with about 10 frames per bloom intensity level. Im running the same card but with an extra one in SLi mode, only EXTREME shadows kill my framerate, and having bloom on high is blinding x.x ----------------------------------- *CCP Please update my portrait on the website/forums :D*
Metlec	Posted - 2007.11.30 13:24:00 - [55] Originally by: Mr Breakfast Is there an option to shut shadows off? I'm on a Dell XPS Gen 2 laptop running 2mb RAM and a Geforce 6800. I'm guessing Trinity will run OK but only with settings turned down. I'd be amazed if windows boots this year with that amount of ram
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.11.30 14:02:00 - [56] Originally by: CCP Redundancy Extreme shadows uses a 4096x4096 shadow buffer goddamnit. that's a ****in' huge shadow buffer you got there. --- planetary interaction idea!
Kuger Caldari Image Not Found	Posted - 2007.11.30 21:57:00 - [57] Hello, umm im getting a new computer and its going to be cheap, well the video card that comes with it is a ATI RADEON« Xpress1150 256MB HyperMemory i was wondering if Shader Model 3 will work with that?
Esirnos Caldari ASSASSIN SYNDICATE Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.01 12:16:00 - [58] I can run it with minimal FPS loss (with the exception of the jita like moments on Sisi) Setup: MacPro Quad Core 3.0ghz with 8gb (but vista only see's two) and an ATIxt1900 running in the driver control panel at optimal settings. This setting is a compromise for all the detail. It looked amazing when set to Max Quality, but the FPS was way too low. Ran it on high shadow, and high HDR. Also, I run it on a 30" HD monitor running 2860x1600 pixels. Overall, a decent performance. Also wanted to state that it was quite clever in enabling people to simplly "shut off" the models in the control panel, and return to the old ones.
Skolopendromorf	Posted - 2007.12.02 11:23:00 - [59] Edited by: Skolopendromorf on 02/12/2007 11:25:26 I'm interested in the Hex'Caliber results. I have a 3ghz+ AMD processor and wanted to buy the X1950Pro card, so my question is : what's the impact of the processor on the fps and overall gameplay ? Will 1ghz make a difference(2-4 fps?) ? And does the multi core also ? Does Trinity use multithreading heavily or will the single core processors suffice ? @Hex'Caliber: Do you have the XTX version or the PRO version , 256 or 512mb ? The powercolor or the Radeon ? ;] Thx in advance.
Beliac Notingrrah	Posted - 2007.12.02 11:31:00 - [60] Originally by: 3rdD Dave I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen. Dude that comment is so wrong. I cant believe some of the crappy machines I have seen EVE run perfectly on. Plus I have seen it run on crap connections aka dial up fine. As to whether or not the updated gfx changed this or not, I wont know till I get a new vid card. (Stupid shaders)

Claude Leon	Posted - 2007.12.02 13:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Hieronim Wilde Edited by: Hieronim Wilde on 30/11/2007 11:05:32 Hi, just to give people info, Trinity was tested on Singularity with the following : CONFIGURATION Asus P4P800-SE Pentium IV @ 2.8Ghz \| no overcloak 1.5 Go Ram nVIDIA 6800GS 256Mo (AGP 8X) \| Drivers 163.75 HD Maxtor 80Go (S-ATA 1) Windows XP SP2 (up to date) \| DirectX9 from november Antivir Personnal, Pidgin, Foobar & Firefox active at the time of the test. INGAME OPTIONS rq: I use almost same settings in TQ 1680x1050 Fullscreen (24 bits everywhere + 8 bits) All Effects ON Tails OFF (don't like it) Sun Occluded By Ships ON Station Environment ON Use LOD ON Dither (what is this please?) ON (?!?) Shadows NORMAL HDR OFF Interval immediate AA at 0 or 2 (4 on TQ) FPS RESULTS In order to try to be 'neutral' in my opinion, I will lower my fps results a little little little (yeah I know, it's not 'being neutral'). That's to prevent from being to enthousiastic. In station I get 15 to 30-40 fps on Sisi. In TQ I have 80-100 fps. Undocked, near station Suprise, I have 30-60 fps which is at least equal to what I get with TQ (in fact I think Trinity is even better -gain from 2 to 10 fps in that case). I did the test both in TQ and Sisi near station with 1 or 2 people outside, not more. Once, in Sisi I got a problem charging the texture for the Station so Station appears invisible for 10 seconds then appears :) It happens on my first Sisi connection then no problem. Warping 40-70 fps. Same as in TQ. Maybe better on Sisi... Jumpgates When the warp finishes, before getting close to the gate, i get a 1-3 sec freeze like if my HD was charging textures (of stargates & concord ships -about 20 of them) then again a suprise : 30-50 fps at the gate (same as in TQ for me maybe even better on Sisi). I GOT TO SAY... Imho, CCP did great job with Trinity. I got a quite small config (not so bad though) but I have the impression Trinity could be smoother than in my actual TQ installation. But because I have no friends, I did not have the opportunity to test the most important thing on Eve : PvP & gangs. So I'll wait till 6/12 to try PvP with corpmates and finish my review. Also it was my first time on Sisi and I got some problems that I guess are 'normal' (or not) because it's not the best of the two servers I guess : - Station 'not loading' when undocked so station appears invisible for +-10 seconds. - Since the 140Mo patch (& the one from yesterday) for Sisi, unable to charge the game entirely, the progress bar 'freezes' a long time at 'entering station'. I got to reboot and in order to play on Sisi I have to put back classic (old textures) graphics. - When connecting to Sisi inspace, sometimes unable to see my ship with premium content (even after 10 minutes) and unable to see jumpgate animations at the same time. - Lag (client I guess) in station (as said before). - Little (2-3s -but longer than in TQ) freezes when arriving at a JumpGate in order to charge textures (from my HD) I guess. Well, otherwise... beautiful. If on thursday 6 I got with the new engine and new textures as fps as I got in TQ now (even in gang) I'll not know how to thank CCP more... exept by keep going on with Eve for another year. So good luck to all of you players and to CCP. Your hard drives are too slow and you need to up your ram.
scorpion007 Black-Sun Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.12.02 21:35:00 - [62] Edited by: scorpion007 on 02/12/2007 21:42:57 Edited by: scorpion007 on 02/12/2007 21:36:23 i've been watching this forum and topic with eagle eyes .. i have been thinking if my pc could run trinity good .. i have been thinking to upgrade my pc to and contacting my pc shops close by and all .. but i'm really not sure.. i got a AMD athlon 64 4000+ running at 2.41Ghz Abit an-8 mobo 2Gb DDR ram's dual channeling 7800GT PCI-E (shader model 3.0 supported) 150GB Sata HD do any of you guyz with allot more of pc-knowledge know if i could run trinity with all the trimmings but with shadows at high or medium and at a resolution of 1280x1024 ? i hope some of you could make a fairly good suggestion or maybe even answer to my question :) otherwise i have to just go and upgrade a few parts :) lot's of friendly greetings :)
blake fallout	Posted - 2007.12.03 01:06:00 - [63] test server says no!
Jolliejoe Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.03 09:36:00 - [64] Originally by: scorpion007 Edited by: scorpion007 on 02/12/2007 21:42:57 Edited by: scorpion007 on 02/12/2007 21:36:23 i've been watching this forum and topic with eagle eyes .. i have been thinking if my pc could run trinity good .. i have been thinking to upgrade my pc to and contacting my pc shops close by and all .. but i'm really not sure.. i got a AMD athlon 64 4000+ running at 2.41Ghz Abit an-8 mobo 2Gb DDR ram's dual channeling 7800GT PCI-E (shader model 3.0 supported) 150GB Sata HD do any of you guyz with allot more of pc-knowledge know if i could run trinity with all the trimmings but with shadows at high or medium and at a resolution of 1280x1024 ? i hope some of you could make a fairly good suggestion or maybe even answer to my question :) otherwise i have to just go and upgrade a few parts :) lot's of friendly greetings :) Shadows cause one of the bigguest performance hits. Other than that, you should be able to run Trinity just fine.
scorpion007 Black-Sun Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.12.03 11:17:00 - [65] then i'll just put shadows to low .. doesn't matter to me aslong as the new ship looks pretty and shiny ^^ hehe thx for the info :)
Asroha Cloudwalker	Posted - 2007.12.03 16:51:00 - [66] Note to CCP - After reading all the posts in this thread, I have to ask that you please don't release this crap and call it an "expansion". I'm guessing maybe 10% of players will actually have the hardware to run this, and that's probably being very generous in that estimate. Most of your customers will NOT have the desire to buy a piece of computer hardware worth several hundred dollars just to run these graphics... not to mention the other glaring issues that this upcoming patch will bring. I've been playing for awhile and have become very comfortable in your ability to release quality and timely patches and releases. Don't pull an SOE and release this half-a$$ product.
Dexion Slayer Minmatar Perpetual Dawn	Posted - 2007.12.03 19:48:00 - [67] Edited by: Dexion Slayer on 03/12/2007 19:48:16 Good thing you dont HAVE TO use the premium gfx to play EVE, you can keep playing classic like anyone else, so please stuff it about not releasing it..you dont have to use it but that 10% that can, will and enjoy it.
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.03 20:27:00 - [68] Anyone have any experiance with Trinity on a laptop yet? I'd love to find out how some of the Mobile GPU's preform. X1600's and 8500 GT's for example.
Kairg Caldari Caldari State Operations	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:11:00 - [69] Edited by: Kairg on 03/12/2007 21:12:45 Running Trinity premium client with shadows and HDR both on High, at 1680 x 1050. Getting about 55-60 fps in station and in space. AMD Athlon X2 4400+ 2Gb DDR400 RAM 7900GT x 2 SLI (Using nVidia BETA drivers) _____________________________________________________ Under construction
lestus Amarr 5th Front enterprises DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.12.03 22:05:00 - [70] Originally by: Captain Campion hmm, yesterday i kinda could, but the models looked rubbish and nothing like the previews. and today there was some other update, and now i just get a big transparent window that i cant do anything with...... Originally by: 3rdD Dave I dont get it, Ive played other games that had more going on screen than the new client and have by far better FPS. Why does Eve require such powerful hardware considering whats actually being shown on screen. you people **** me off, THE GRAPHICS HASN'T BEEN DEPLOYED YET on the test server, yes it's running the new ENGINE but NOT the GRAPHICS, so frustrating when people can't click onto the simplest things like that, how could you EVER possibly think "omfg they look nothing like the screenshots" ? without realizing it's the SAME models you are playing with on the Tranquility.. bah why do i bother

Khudo	Posted - 2007.12.03 22:43:00 - [71] Quote: you people **** me off, THE GRAPHICS HASN'T BEEN DEPLOYED YET Go hang yourself, you will ? The blue ships aren't what i paid for.
culmor30	Posted - 2007.12.03 23:33:00 - [72] Edited by: culmor30 on 03/12/2007 23:34:15 Finally my card's downfall... it was good three years ago until now, but now I can't run hardly any new games... Ah well. But premium and classic clients are still both on TQ, correct? Not separate? If they are I will kill. I hate being me, the best gfx card I have gets 25-30fps on the current TQ gfx engine. Pixel shader 2... I don't have the money to upgrade, so I'm stuck with classic for another ~5 years before I get a new pc. Woohoo. CCP, couldn't you have just loaded it full of new textures and pixel/vertex shaders? And are you going to update the classic textures even a BIT for poor people like me?
Niddix Minmatar Raptus Regaliter Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 02:48:00 - [73] Dell Latitude with nVidia Quadra NVS 135M, 4gb system RAM, Vista In Station (TQ) 14-50 fps (avg 30) In Station (Trin) 15-30 fps (avg 20) Space (TQ) 20-50 (avg 35) Space (Trin) 15-40 (avg 25) No HDR, basic video card settings.
flaming phantom Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.12.04 03:41:00 - [74] nooo my stupid card wont support the shader 3. 9800xt only here :-( Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:44:00 - [75] Edited by: Kasak Black on 04/12/2007 11:44:24 Originally by: Khudo Quote: you people **** me off, THE GRAPHICS HASN'T BEEN DEPLOYED YET Go hang yourself, you will ? The blue ships aren't what i paid for. Mate relax, lestus is right, people are moaning about content that is still been tested, it isnt final. As for the blue ships, either dont use them or find another game.
Ovno ConSyquence Amarr The Plebians	Posted - 2007.12.04 14:40:00 - [76] Edited by: Ovno ConSyquence on 04/12/2007 14:43:33 Originally by: Kasak Black Edited by: Kasak Black on 04/12/2007 11:44:24 Originally by: Khudo Quote: you people ** me off, THE GRAPHICS HASN'T BEEN DEPLOYED YET Go hang yourself, you will ? The blue ships aren't what i paid for. Mate relax, lestus is right, people are moaning about content that is still been tested, it isnt final. As for the blue ships, either dont use them or find another game. No, no he's not, hes saying that the graphics on sisi are the old tq graphics under the new engine... See here... Originally by:** "Lestus" you people **** me off, THE GRAPHICS HASN'T BEEN DEPLOYED YET on the test server, yes it's running the new ENGINE but NOT the GRAPHICS, so frustrating when people can't click onto the simplest things like that, how could you EVER possibly think "omfg they look nothing like the screenshots" ? without realizing it's the SAME models you are playing with on the Tranquility.. bah why do i bother When in fact the current graphics available on sisi are the test versions of the new graphics not the same old graphics which were on tq, i mean have you even looked at the models, they are clearly not the same as the ones on tq. As clearly stated by CCP Mephisto here, And i have to say i'm getting really tired of IDIOTS coming on these forums mouthing off at everyone about how the new graphics arn't on sisi yet or how even the new engine isn't on sisi, or in fact this whole topic in general when they clearly have no idea what they're talking about If you don't know and haven't been on SISI yet don't comment
Joss Sparq Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.12.04 18:42:00 - [77] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: CCP Redundancy Extreme shadows uses a 4096x4096 shadow buffer goddamnit. that's a ****in' huge shadow buffer you got there. "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"
Drew Falcon Joint Ventures Limited	Posted - 2007.12.04 19:06:00 - [78] I've read through this and I see a lot of geforce 8800's and whatnot, my question is, is a GeForce7800 GS OC AGP on an old 3.2ghz Pentium 4 HT going to do me the trick? At least with the new grapics set to reasonable settings maybe?
Liyrn	Posted - 2007.12.04 19:23:00 - [79] Anybody know how to change the server. I installed the update but cannot change server to Singularity.
searess	Posted - 2007.12.04 19:46:00 - [80] Originally by: Kasak Black Anyone have any experiance with Trinity on a laptop yet? I'd love to find out how some of the Mobile GPU's preform. X1600's and 8500 GT's for example. Yeh tried it today on a Vaio VGN-S3HP Geforce 6200 Go 128. Does not work with premium content even with everything turned down to minimum all I get is blocks of black and blocks of white , reverted back to non premium Hijackzorzzzz Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes

Miss Anthropy School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.12.04 22:32:00 - [81] I've been watching this thread for a few days now. From what I gather the Devs are implying that all you need to run the new client with updated graphics is a Shader 3 capable graphics card. But lots of people seem to be struggling even with this (my current graphics card is Shader 3 capable). What I can't see on this thread, or anywhere else, is a simple minimum requirements list for the new client. Clearly, from what everyone is saying here, the new client needs a "little" more than just a graphics card update. Hell is other people's ringtones.
Smokin' Sandra	Posted - 2007.12.04 22:39:00 - [82] Do I have to use the new client? My graphics card does not support 3.0 shader, as I found out trying to use BioShock. It's got more than enough horsepower (Radeon 9800xt), it just doesn't have this sniffy new feature. I need to know because I'm on a trial account, and don't want to buy the game (much less start paying by the month) if I can't play it in a few days or weeks.
ChemicalQueen	Posted - 2007.12.05 00:21:00 - [83] Originally by: Kasak Black Anyone have any experiance with Trinity on a laptop yet? I'd love to find out how some of the Mobile GPU's preform. X1600's and 8500 GT's for example. Ya I have an ATI FireGL 5200 (using the X1600 driver hehehe) and it runs fine. It's a little slower framerate-wise, but definately playable. You should be fine with the x1600.
ChemicalQueen	Posted - 2007.12.05 00:22:00 - [84] Originally by: Smokin' Sandra Do I have to use the new client? Yes, you need to use the new client. No, you do not need to download the new GRAPHICS.
benzss Templar Securities and Holdings Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.12.05 23:51:00 - [85] I can't. But that's because i use linux. Boo.
DARKVALE Caldari Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.12.06 01:11:00 - [86] i got 8800gtx 768mb-- 1800mhz gpu 575mhz oc.. oh yes eve will run nice for me :-) :-)
Ally Poo Caldari Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.12.06 01:15:00 - [87] can anyone tell me if visiontek radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB AGP video card is any good with trinity?
Maren Kirsan Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.12.06 02:01:00 - [88] I'm using a "MOBILITY RADEON 9200" with the latest drivers on my laptop and i'm not able to launch EVE anymore. Feel free to keep me updated with what I could do to fix this. - Maren. "We are not retreating, we are advancing in a different direction"
Ed Anger Weekly World News	Posted - 2007.12.06 03:34:00 - [89] Originally by: Kasak Black Anyone have any experiance with Trinity on a laptop yet? I'd love to find out how some of the Mobile GPU's preform. X1600's and 8500 GT's for example. with a 8600 gt i got 20fps with shawdows at high and hdr on. i get 45-60 at normal with hdr off.
yavhe	Posted - 2007.12.06 04:30:00 - [90] My GeCube Radeon 9200 seems to not support it either... I'll wait for an answer on how to fix it

Thulion	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:18:00 - [91] Edited by: Thulion on 06/12/2007 08:21:39 On my laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 Windows Vista Business Core 2 Duo T7200 2GHz ATI Radeon mobility x1400 2GB Ram 1680x1050 resolution full screen hdr off With premium content on and shadow quality set to normal I get 10-14 fps
Tir Kov	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:29:00 - [92] I'm running a Asus Z81SP with a Geforce GO 6800 card. Have to say I am having terrible results as I have had to fix my boot.ini file... now that I have done this all my new models are black and white. I can undock and the background and UI are ok, but everything that has been changed or updated (ship models, docking background) are all black and white. By black and white, I mean someone has taken the contrast on Adobe photoshop and turned it all the way up. Things look like a photocopy. My card should run this expansion just fine, but so far it hasn't. I might try and delete the client and download the stand alone premium version if no one has any comments. T.
Kastar Memphis Technologies Intergalactic Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.12.06 09:00:00 - [93] AMD FX2 6000 with XP 8600 GT 512 4GB of DDR2 800 RAM I seem to be running 2 premium clients without a lot of problems. What annoys me though is that there seems to be a small graphical glitch when hovering from one clickable object to another. EG when hovering the cursor over the high slots there seems to be a little delay from one to another. Same goes for agent statements, hangar items... In space it behaves as normal, spins fast enough etc though framerate seems to be avg 10 lower as it was. Mem usage has skyrocketed though, I see 450mb/client while the classic/old only used 250 max. All in all I think it was a mighty fine job with the update itself. The issue with the boot.ini is really unacceptable though. I closed down yesterday as normal, am at work now and just read the issue. My wife at home depends on the 'puter for her work today... so someone will be 1) ****ed off and 2) impacted in rl. Apologies won't cut it this time. I don't care that a patch doesn't run smooth the first weeks... that are growing pains. This however is something of another level. -----------------------------------------------
Lord Meriak	Posted - 2007.12.06 09:19:00 - [94] windows root>\system32\hal.dll. worked fine last night, cannot, reboot or reinstall xp disc for a clean install.
Logi3 Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.12.06 10:56:00 - [95] Running it fine on: AMD x2 Athlon 6000+ 4GB DDR2 800 8800 GTX Extreme 10krpm Sata 2 Raptor 1280x1024. HDR on, Shadows, normal, bloom high. Im getting around 150FPS in space, 200 docked. Cant wait to try my new Samsung 22" widescreen \o/ ----
Brigitte S.A.S Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:41:00 - [96] lol 50 man years they say.... haha my comp wont even run the new patch wot a crok of crap
Alex Eimin	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:55:00 - [97] Edited by: Alex Eimin on 06/12/2007 11:55:52 AMD64 4000+ 6600GTs in SLI 2048MB RAM 1280x1024x32 12 FPS. On a good day. Reverting to classic.... sigh
flashfreaking LFC FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:52:00 - [98] Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E6750 4095 MB Ram Asus nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX All these precious goodies on the Asus P5K Deluxe Vista Home Premium x64 running on it. The STATS: I get an average of 100 FPS outside station in 0.0 with 10 mates on the undocking ramp as well with the following settings: Shadows: High (Extreme is silly, as I think Mindstar already said on SiSi) HDR - Bloom: High as well And because I try exploring the edges: AF x8 and AA x8 So CCP: I love you, and thank you for making this engine, and ofc updating the models.
Gravecall	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:56:00 - [99] Sorry if this is a stupid question but I want to be absolutely certain: Is the NVIDIA GeForce 7950 the same as NVIDIA GeForce Go 7950 GTX (should be a 512mb card)? Thanks
Zoon	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:15:00 - [100] Originally by: Kuger Hello, umm im getting a new computer and its going to be cheap, well the video card that comes with it is a ATI RADEON« Xpress1150 256MB HyperMemory i was wondering if Shader Model 3 will work with that? No, sorry. Its Dx9b (not Dx9c) and its shader model 2, not 3. http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-Xpress-1150.2173.0.html If you want SM3 support, you might wanna get yourself a cheap Radeon HD 2900 Pro or a HD 3850 why not. They're both around ú100 UK. If thats still not in your budget, you can get a Geforce 8600 GT for around ú65 UK, or even an 8500 GT for around ú45 UK. Originally by: Kasak Black Anyone have any experiance with Trinity on a laptop yet? I'd love to find out how some of the Mobile GPU's preform. X1600's and 8500 GT's for example. Just installing the upgraded client on my desktop X1600XT chip at the moment. I'm going to be turning shadows totally off if I can as that's personal preference, but hell, I can play Crysis on medium at 1680x1050 so I'm expecting Eve to perform about the same as it always has having read this thread so far... Originally by: yavhe My GeCube Radeon 9200 seems to not support it either... I'll wait for an answer on how to fix it Originally by: Maren Kirsan I'm using a "MOBILITY RADEON 9200" with the latest drivers on my laptop and i'm not able to launch EVE anymore. Feel free to keep me updated with what I could do to fix this. - Maren. These are SM2.0 parts so if you've put Premium content on you'll have to go back to the Classic content. Originally by: Gravecall Sorry if this is a stupid question but I want to be absolutely certain: Is the NVIDIA GeForce 7950 the same as NVIDIA GeForce Go 7950 GTX (should be a 512mb card)? Thanks Aside from the fact it has slower ram / core speeds it should still support SM3.0 etc. In short I would expect you to get good performance but my premium content is still downloading :p

Zoon	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:17:00 - [101] Edited by: Zoon on 06/12/2007 15:17:55 Edited by: Zoon on 06/12/2007 15:17:24 Just upgraded to premium, and the Catalyst 7.11 driver set. Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.4) 2gb 4-4-4-15 PC2-5300 DDR2 Radeon X1600XT 256mb Dell 2007WFP 20" widescreen 1680x1050@70hz AAx2, AAx8, HDR on, shadows off totally (I don't like them) Getting around 30 fps at a busy gate, no lag / tearing etc. Around 45 to 70 in warp / quieter areas. Curiously enough I was getting around the same on the old engine ... very odd ;) Edit: I should add, it looks verrrry pretty.
Sniper Wolf18	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:01:00 - [102] geforce 7300le 256mb 1gb ram amd athalon x64 4500 running 1360x760 res get about 15-20fps, with shadows off and chache to low, crashes out if i set anything to higer
CCIE CHAD	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:19:00 - [103] What the hell you guys say you support Linux now but there is no premium client available for us Linux users and no definite date that such a client will be supported.
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:54:00 - [104] Originally by: CCIE CHAD What the hell you guys say you support Linux now but there is no premium client available for us Linux users and no definite date that such a client will be supported. Hey there is still the classic client that is working for Linux. Stop moaning, premium content is not necessary to play the game. And because the premium content is not available at the moment for Linux doesn't mean it won't be forever. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
CCIE CHAD Gallente Eternal Guardians Corp. The Covenant Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:59:00 - [105] Quote: Hey there is still the classic client that is working for Linux. Stop moaning, premium content is not necessary to play the game. And because the premium content is not available at the moment for Linux doesn't mean it won't be forever. Thats fine but they should have a release date if they say they are officially supporting us Linux users. Chad "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
putukas Amarr Enterprise Estonia	Posted - 2007.12.06 18:20:00 - [106] ok i have a realy wierd problem. I have NVIDIA GeForce 7950GT 512MB, i have new drivers and windows XP is updated. SM3checker says "Your Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 7950GT Does not support Shader Model 3.0" I dont understand what's the problem. I think i have somekind of software bug somewhere but i dont know even where to look. Any suggestions?
Kolosim Felador night Corp	Posted - 2007.12.06 21:37:00 - [107] I download the shader model 3 checker after getting the graphic card update, but it says that my graphic card can't run it. Why is this? (I got the nVidia GeForce 8800 ultra(?))
MrPhew	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:30:00 - [108] having problems getting in to eve! i have run the test and my graphics card is fine, i have unistalled and downloaded again and reinstalled (3hrs of my life wasted) and it is still coming up with the same message: Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong. it is saying next to server status unknown???? any help would be greatly apprecieated!!!!
Kazowie Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.12.06 23:06:00 - [109] Been running trinity fine since it came up on sisi. In fact, I simply removed the sisi info from the shortcut and use the same client to now connect to tranq, which seems to have somehow slipped me around the boot.ini issue. running it on 3.6g celeron, aaus p5p 800vm, 2gb ram, and an ati x1650 512mb It's not easy to cut a human head in half with a hacksaw. -- M. Crichton
Terex193 Amarr Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2007.12.07 00:29:00 - [110] I run trin perfectly,no lag really,and i have a 7600,so if u have better then that i call upon u the power of failed :D Insert Catchy Signature Here

Darth VooDoo Minmatar Bris Vegas Buccaneers	Posted - 2007.12.07 01:55:00 - [111] I'm running it on a Dell D620 Laptop with a 256MB NVIDIA Quadro NVS 110M TurboCache @ 1440x900 with 1.5 Gig of RAM and it runs the same if not better than before the patch.
Elhina Novae Amarr Ranyhyn	Posted - 2007.12.07 03:40:00 - [112] How well can I run Premium with a setup like this? Will upgrade my computer the 26th of december... Setup 1: AMD Athlon x2 4000+ 2,1Ghz 2GB RAM x1650XT 256mb some crap motherboard. OR I might get this depending on if my partner agrees to support me on it ( promised we will save money for something she wanna do then so still considering ) : Setup 2: AMD Athlon x2 4000+ 2,1GHz ( Phenom later this year ) 2GB RAM HD3850 256mb / 3870 512mb MSI K9A2 Platinum How can I run trinity with setup 1/2? Will I have a big performance difference with a 3870 compared to 3850, thinking of the memory as I play in 1280 x 1024? as of now I can't run classic since the patch. Sure I can but not enjoyable due to lagging. Changed from 1280 x 1024 to 1024 x 768 and then it almost worked but still alot of lag and I can't play it because of that... :( AMD Barton 3000+ 1GB RAM Ti 4200 x8 ASUS A7V600+ before it was flowing good with this setup at 1280 x 1024 at low settings ( 16-bit ) but not anymore :( and I wasn't affected by the boot.ini either. So anyway at the end of this month I can atleast play this game on classic again hopefully premium... Somebody set up us the bomb
Jack Coutu	Posted - 2007.12.07 05:35:00 - [113] I was wondering if a Dell Inspiron with a 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 2gb or ram and a high end processor would be able to run Trinity without too many problems.
Grimm Myn Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.07 09:02:00 - [114] Edited by: Grimm Myn on 07/12/2007 09:05:41 Nexoc Osiris E705II Laptop Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 2GB DDR2 RAM GeForce Go 7950 GTX (512MB) 100GB SATA 7'200RPM Windows XP Professional (DE) with SP2 17" Glaretype (Running 1920x1080) With HDR on high and Shadows on Extreme, i get 26-28 fps in station and 10-40 outside, depending on traffic. It doesnt feel very smooth but it works under pressure with max options. Currently using HDR off and Shadows on normal for a much smoother 60-80 fps in station (i dont need the nber bright light effects anyway) I didnt use the Shader Checker, in-game it said i can download the patch so i did. Doubt the tool works correctly if it doesnt recognise a 8800 :P
Zebeyo	Posted - 2007.12.07 10:52:00 - [115] Edited by: Zebeyo on 07/12/2007 10:55:03 Edited by: Zebeyo on 07/12/2007 10:52:39 Processor: Intel Centrino Duo T2400 @ 1.83GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 1024MB RAM DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Display Memory: 512.0 MB Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz) OS: Windows XP Pro, danish, fully updated including SP2 Getting weird invisible polygons and missing textures on all entities - including the flying eve logo atthe startup screen. Don't really see what is wrong here as i guess i should be able to run it. Any help? Running classic smoothly Edit: OS added
Matroxion Chickens with an Attitude	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:39:00 - [116] Edited by: Matroxion on 07/12/2007 11:40:39 Originally by: Zebeyo Edited by: Zebeyo on 07/12/2007 10:55:03 Edited by: Zebeyo on 07/12/2007 10:52:39 Processor: Intel Centrino Duo T2400 @ 1.83GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 1024MB RAM DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Display Memory: 512.0 MB Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz) OS: Windows XP Pro, danish, fully updated including SP2 Getting weird invisible polygons and missing textures on all entities - including the flying eve logo atthe startup screen. Don't really see what is wrong here as i guess i should be able to run it. Any help? Running classic smoothly Edit: OS added I got the same laptop as you it seems , xcept for the memory and OS. I've got 2GB memory and run everything at 1440 x 900. But thats all besides the point. Just before starting the update for EvE I updated my driver of the GFX card, didn't have any problems with running it. Before I did that however and checked out the client on sisi I had the same problems. So prolly update your driver and your all set again. I can run 2 clients at my laptop all settings to high, with litle problems btw Hope it helps. - Matroxion edit: added stuff
zeluk Caldari Shades Corp	Posted - 2007.12.07 13:28:00 - [117] Twin 8800GTS 320mb Q6600 QuadCore Processor 4GB Corsair Xtreme RAM She runs beautifully :)
dann otheym Smoking Hillbillys THORN Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 18:38:00 - [118] Originally by: Kasak Black Anyone have any experiance with Trinity on a laptop yet? I'd love to find out how some of the Mobile GPU's preform. X1600's and 8500 GT's for example. I have a Benq Joybook, with Radeon Mobility x1600 videocard, 1 gig ram, AMD Turion dual core processor. Works better than before, I'd say.
Woal Ithese St Clements Institute for Higher Learning	Posted - 2007.12.07 18:44:00 - [119] AMD 2600+/Radeon X1950 Pro/XP SP2/2 Gigs Ran the new trinity graphics exactly one time before this: "Verification Failure" Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files. Please re-install the game client." This game is trying my patience at a whole new level for something considered entertainment.
Deirdre Sky	Posted - 2007.12.07 19:02:00 - [120] Shortly: Intel P4 - 3.0GHz 2X512 Kingston RAM Nvidia 6600 I got like 30 fps in station and like the same amount in space when other objects are near. When I warp my fps goes to 50-60. Well, I personally understand I lack RAM and graphic card so stuck to the new client but switched to the old graphics as there is such option.

JoCool MASS	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:46:00 - [121] intel dc 2 6600 2gb ram geforce 7950 gt Runs fine. Love it. Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
TSID Gallente Valiant Logistics Inc. EternalRising	Posted - 2007.12.08 04:41:00 - [122] p4 3.0 ghz win xp home sp2 7600gt sb audigy 2 zs 1.5gb ram As far as I can get is the character selection screen.2 days like that now. But I have ASUS G1S laptop with Vista so I can play
Phienta	Posted - 2007.12.08 07:46:00 - [123] Runs flawlessly on my box with all settings maxed out... Intel Q6700 (at stock clock speeds) 3GB of DDR2 800 ATI X1950XTX Running @ 1680x1050 FPS Sits around 55 in firefights, otherwise its at 60 (maxed by refresh rate). Now all i want for Xmas is for them to add shield impact graphics... please?
SilentHunter13 Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.12.08 21:08:00 - [124] I have a ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, i have upgraded it to the newest. I have downloaded all the DirectX i need and installed it fully. I can play in the new graphics however it is weird, everything appears and dissapears, the shading on the ships is fragmented and changes from being there to not being there. Don't quite know how to explain it other that what i said. I have 2GHz 1GB RAM Could it be the RAM? It can still play, i can still see, just all the ships and gates and other new textured objects (so practically everything) flickers. Any fixes or ideas? Thanks Silent ------------------------------------------ Analysing and Destroying your arguments since early 2007 :) Enjoy. Yankee Alpha Romeo Romeo Romeo
Cipher Venok Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.12.08 22:40:00 - [125] I am new to EVE, and am trying it out on the 14-day trial subscription. I run the new client with the "premium graphics" and it's super smooth on my PC. I'm using everything set to the maximum (ie: extreme and high), with HDR and 16x AA with 16x AF thanks to Prishe's thread and nHancer for NVIDIA settings. I'm running: EVGA 680i mobo (AR) E6850 oced to 3.6GHz (on an AC Freezer 7 Pro) 2x EVGA 8800GTX (not in SLI since dual screens) 2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12) I'm getting lows of 60 FPS (FRAPS) in space, but I haven't been in large scale combat due to the fact I'm still a newbie. :) I'll probably run ccp's Linux client on Ubuntu in the future since I really don't use SLI too often (only for games like Oblivion). Anyone have any performance experience with this Linux client using an 8800GTX? Gaming Rig CPUz verified \| My Blog
Zebeyo	Posted - 2007.12.09 23:55:00 - [126] Edited by: Zebeyo on 09/12/2007 23:55:49 Originally by: SilentHunter13 I have a ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, i have upgraded it to the newest. I have downloaded all the DirectX i need and installed it fully. I can play in the new graphics however it is weird, everything appears and dissapears, the shading on the ships is fragmented and changes from being there to not being there. Don't quite know how to explain it other that what i said. I have 2GHz 1GB RAM Could it be the RAM? It can still play, i can still see, just all the ships and gates and other new textured objects (so practically everything) flickers. Any fixes or ideas? Thanks Silent Exact same thing i have - just with the x1600 Originally by: Matroxion Edited by: Matroxion on 07/12/2007 11:40:39 Originally by: Zebeyo Edited by: Zebeyo on 07/12/2007 10:55:03 Edited by: Zebeyo on 07/12/2007 10:52:39 Processor: Intel Centrino Duo T2400 @ 1.83GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 1024MB RAM DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 Display Memory: 512.0 MB Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz) OS: Windows XP Pro, danish, fully updated including SP2 Getting weird invisible polygons and missing textures on all entities - including the flying eve logo atthe startup screen. Don't really see what is wrong here as i guess i should be able to run it. Any help? Running classic smoothly Edit: OS added I got the same laptop as you it seems , xcept for the memory and OS. I've got 2GB memory and run everything at 1440 x 900. But thats all besides the point. Just before starting the update for EvE I updated my driver of the GFX card, didn't have any problems with running it. Before I did that however and checked out the client on sisi I had the same problems. So prolly update your driver and your all set again. I can run 2 clients at my laptop all settings to high, with litle problems btw Hope it helps. - Matroxion edit: added stuff Unfortunately this didn't seem to solve the problem. It would seem that Asus(my laptop is an Asus A6Ja) have decided to not release new graphics updates for the x1600 mobility. at least the only new drivers i can find are from first half of 2006. Still browsing google to find new drivers :S
BhallSpawn	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:49:00 - [127] I love how they invested all this money into something that didn't need fixing NEARLY as much as the lag. Graphics.. big deal. how bout no lag fleet combat ? Now that I'd like to see.
Elseer Radak Gallente PROGENITOR CORPORATION Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.12.10 21:24:00 - [128] Edited by: Elseer Radak on 10/12/2007 21:25:03 I can run one client at full speed (90 fps in station, 110 fps out of station). Two clients drop to ~40fps each and all three clients the total fps drops to 4fps with shadow/hdr or 15fps with all fancy options turned off with quite a delay on un-docking. FWIW My system is: Quad Core q6600 2.2 ghz Vista x64 ultimate 4gb memory Nvidia 8600gts 256mb So I use the classic client for right now :> Elseer R.
Impericus	Posted - 2007.12.12 15:36:00 - [129] jawholl... I will be able.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.13 00:37:00 - [130] Originally by: Impericus jawholl... I will be able. congratulations Trashed sig, Shark was here



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