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ry ry StateCorp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:20:00 - [31] Originally by: Illyrinia you clicked i accept, that is a binding legal electronic agreement between you and CCP, same as you pressing accept on the flashy new credit card you accepted via the internet. dont forget to pay that bill... the whole 'button click is legally binding' thing is just begging a test case. prove i clicked that button. *again.
SnakeByte86	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:21:00 - [32] LOL at everyone saying EULA EULA! First of all, they rarely hold up in court. Second of all, the EULA does not protect CCP in this circumstance, because the EULA, was only displayed after EVE was installed, since after installing the update screwd the game up, the EULA means nothing, and CCP is 100% liable.
Major Death Caldari Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:21:00 - [33] Edited by: Major Death on 10/12/2007 10:21:30 Its CCPs fault. They didn't test the update properly, and as a result it caused dammage to customers PC's. As for the EULA claims, local law will over rule the EULA as when it sees fit. However CCP are an Icelandic company, so any action would really need to be taken in Iceland, where trial by combat is still legal... My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;) CCP say 'Shut up about bugs and eat your eye candy!'
Clevermonkey	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Grimm Myn Originally by: Clevermonkey Originally by: Crumplecorn This one time, at band camp, the power went out, and I tried to walk downstairs in the dark, and fell and broke my arm, and sued the power company for compensation. You are also a moron. this is not about accidental falling. It is about deliberate deletion of a file that does not or has been licensed by CCP which would be the BOOT.INI file. By law they are not allowed to modify it without a license from Microsoft. Calling people names or insulting them wont get you anywhere, gotta love the manners for a 18+ game. Do you REALLY think CCP wanted to delete everyones C:\BOOT.INI on purpose? heh, aight. "Worlds first Game with imbedded virus!" Seriously, this was not a deliberate action by CCP, it was a malfunction of the programmed code as it wasnt thoroughly tested with all the possible client setups out there (considering it only affected a percentage of the gamers, therefore this scenario wasnt tested). You cant prove they did this on purpose, who would think such a thing anyway? It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:23:00 - [35] i am just glad we have an expert on international law to tell us how stupid we are. Thanks Clevermonkey, it that really is your name. - - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
Kirmok	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:23:00 - [36] Originally by: Gojyu Edited by: Gojyu on 10/12/2007 10:04:53 First off, before I begin, suing ccp over this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. However, some of the people here are grossly misinformed, so to clear a couple of things up: Yes, an international company can be sued in any country as long as they do buisness there. That is, if CCP operate any offices in the US (say a little company called white wolf), they are subject to us law http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NTN/is_63/ai_n13778757 ^ Only link I could find in a few minutes Quote: and what harm did it do?, nobody lost anything. you could just insert your original cd, or a bootdisk, a live cd with linux, or repair windows. and its not like they didnt warn people as soon as they saw the problem.. if you lost some work, you only have your self to blame. Only if you know what you're doing. Fairly poor analogy, but look at it this way. If you pay me to wash your car, and I just happen to take the spark plugs out, are you going to be able to diagnose the problem yourself or are you going to need to take it to the shop? It'd take maybe 20 minutes for you to fix. If you knew how. If you didn't it'd probably cost you $200 at your local garage. After all, by your logic, if you didn't see it coming or know how to fix it, you have only yourself to blame Also, to the guy quoting the eula- whether or not they're legally binding is a whole other matter, and don't cover you in cases of gross negligence in either case First off: if I went to a car wash that wanted me to sign terms of use, I wouldn't do business with them. Second: what business does the car wash have under my good unless I give them consent to wash my engine or something?
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:23:00 - [37] Edited by: Omega Man on 10/12/2007 10:24:02 oops strange dp ftl - - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
smenkhare The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:24:00 - [38] Originally by: Clevermonkey Originally by: Crumplecorn By law they are not allowed to modify it without a license from Microsoft. Wanna bet? there is no legislation preventing doing whatever I want to it. EULA's are NOT statutes!
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:26:00 - [39] Originally by: Clevermonkey It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. /pokes you with a stick
Darken Two Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:26:00 - [40] Originally by: Clevermonkey Originally by: Grimm Myn Originally by: Clevermonkey Originally by: Crumplecorn This one time, at band camp, the power went out, and I tried to walk downstairs in the dark, and fell and broke my arm, and sued the power company for compensation. You are also a moron. this is not about accidental falling. It is about deliberate deletion of a file that does not or has been licensed by CCP which would be the BOOT.INI file. By law they are not allowed to modify it without a license from Microsoft. Calling people names or insulting them wont get you anywhere, gotta love the manners for a 18+ game. Do you REALLY think CCP wanted to delete everyones C:\BOOT.INI on purpose? heh, aight. "Worlds first Game with imbedded virus!" Seriously, this was not a deliberate action by CCP, it was a malfunction of the programmed code as it wasnt thoroughly tested with all the possible client setups out there (considering it only affected a percentage of the gamers, therefore this scenario wasnt tested). You cant prove they did this on purpose, who would think such a thing anyway? It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. Man you have anger issues. Breathe buddy. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Clevermonkey	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:27:00 - [41] Originally by: smenkhare Originally by: Clevermonkey Originally by: Crumplecorn By law they are not allowed to modify it without a license from Microsoft. Wanna bet? there is no legislation preventing doing whatever I want to it. EULA's are NOT statutes! Moron, wanna talk to Bill Gates about modifying his software without permission? Yeah talk a big game now B****. You are a no nothing. And I will say again. ten years later you will get your 40 euros back in the mail. CCP has the advantage legally. idiot.
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:29:00 - [42] Edited by: Zaqar on 10/12/2007 10:29:28 Originally by: Clevermonkey Moron You like this word, don't you? Can you go away? Edit: Are you censoring your own posts with asterisks? Very odd
Grimm Myn Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:29:00 - [43] Originally by: Clevermonkey It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. ROFL @ You. The IQ of this thread just dropped below subzero conditions. You know mate, you're right, this didnt happen to me, if it did, i would have quickly read the forums/google it/see the bloody warning messages, fix it and keep on gaming instead of ****ing about how unfair the whole world is and how i want to sue a company because it mistakenly deleted a file which shouldnt have been deleted. Gets on his nber-high-horse, pats "Clever"monkey on the head, gives him the /wrist command and rides into the sunset*
Gojyu Ever Flow Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:30:00 - [44] Quote: Second: what business does the car wash have under my good unless I give them consent to wash my engine or something? The same business ccp has to delete the file responsible for windows booting up Now accepting signature commissions, contact me in-game for pricing
Digital Solaris Spartan Industries	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:31:00 - [45] Originally by: Clevermonkey Wont stand two sh*ts in court. No really, some southern redneck judge would love to rake CCP over the coils. The point is.. in the end you will get nothing anyway, as I have stated from the beginning. So indulge me then, if you know this, why keep up writing stupid crap to people unless you are a complete idiot, mm?
Capt Morgun	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:31:00 - [46] MOAR POASTING! I has the SP2 because I update my computer. It makes me immune to stupidity caused by idiots that don't update. Or I has the vista which is teh win, either way I don't gets the boot.ini deleted because I am teh winner. Or I whine about a game I play ruining my computer and I's about to sue because I can't replace a small file and I gets upset. SUE SUE SUE SUE I's the winner. Whichever way you go you win. To those hoo gots their boot.ini deleted you = teh suck hahaha, everywon is laughing at you.
Clevermonkey	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:32:00 - [47] Edited by: Clevermonkey on 10/12/2007 10:32:54 Originally by: Grimm Myn Originally by: Clevermonkey It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. ROFL @ You. The IQ of this thread just dropped below subzero conditions. You know mate, you're right, this didnt happen to me, if it did, i would have quickly read the forums/google it/see the bloody warning messages, fix it and keep on gaming instead of ****ing about how unfair the whole world is and how i want to sue a company because it mistakenly deleted a file which shouldnt have been deleted. Gets on his nber-high-horse, pats "Clever"monkey on the head, gives him the /wrist command and rides into the sunset* B4\|\|0cks you would have cried to your MOMMY, and ran of to the pub to complain that your system went down. Don't lie to me. you attitude proves it. you lack adaptability.
Major Death Caldari Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:32:00 - [48] Quote: You know mate, you're right, this didnt happen to me, if it did, i would have quickly read the forums/google it/see the bloody warning messages, fix it and keep on gaming instead of ****ing about how unfair the whole world is and how i want to sue a company because it mistakenly deleted a file which shouldnt have been deleted. One slight problem with that, the bug left your PC unbootable. So if that was your only PC then good luck. My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;)* CCP say 'Shut up about bugs and eat your eye candy!'
Kirmok	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Gojyu Quote: Second: what business does the car wash have under my good unless I give them consent to wash my engine or something? The same business ccp has to delete the file responsible for windows booting up You gave them consent when you installed the software...read the EULA... Loved how you totally ignore point number 1 lol
Clevermonkey	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:34:00 - [50] I still said in the end CCP wins
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:35:00 - [51] It might be more fun to take a suit out against Microsoft for not providing protection from this happening. By not doing so they made it possible for the OS I paid for, from them, to be rendered inoperable by a simple command which is part of that said OS - with no warning. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Capt Morgun	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Clevermonkey I still said in the end CCP wins NO EVERYONE WINS. WE ALL ARE WINNERS. IF YOU TYPE IN CAPS YOU WIN TOO. HURRAY FOR WINNERS.
Gojyu Ever Flow Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:37:00 - [53] Edited by: Gojyu on 10/12/2007 10:38:41 Edited by: Gojyu on 10/12/2007 10:37:28 Originally by: Kirmok Originally by: Gojyu Quote: Second: what business does the car wash have under my good unless I give them consent to wash my engine or something? The same business ccp has to delete the file responsible for windows booting up You gave them consent when you installed the software...read the EULA... Loved how you totally ignore point number 1 lol Sorry, I discussed point one in my original post- Terms of service and eula's do not provide a defence against negligence. Just because a company says "all care but no responsibility" doesn't mean they can actually cause you damage without any problem Now accepting signature commissions, contact me in-game for pricing
Clevermonkey	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:38:00 - [54] Originally by: Kirmok Originally by: Gojyu Quote: Second: what business does the car wash have under my good unless I give them consent to wash my engine or something? The same business ccp has to delete the file responsible for windows booting up You gave them consent when you installed the software...read the EULA... Loved how you totally ignore point number 1 lol I have read the EULA and it would not stand up in court because it does not state which licences it has beyond the software you are using. "SYSTEM" is vague. no license, no case, so F* Y. and ten years later you get your 40 euros back.
Clevermonkey	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:39:00 - [55] Is this Microphone on???
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:40:00 - [56] Originally by: Clevermonkey It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. Thread just got interesting. - DesuSigs
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:41:00 - [57] Originally by: Clevermonkey F* Y
Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:42:00 - [58] well, we live in the 21th century, it's not like there arent a computer within a mile of your own, where you could pay a small fee to find the a solution to your problem. libaries have free access to the internet. if you lost importen work... well you know what i say. :) and you could just install a new windows on top of the old, without formatting. works just fine. Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister In Eve-Online Forum Hijack Signature! -Ivan K This space is reserved for moderator hijacking, Need more colors! Red & Yellow & Pink & Green, Orange & Purple & ME! - Deckard My yellow pwns Deckard's fruity rainbow thingie anyday. BRING IT BABY! -Hango Black and pink 4tw however gold pwns -Eldo
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:42:00 - [59] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Clevermonkey It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. Thread just got interesting. /me offers crumple some of his popcorn
Capt Morgun	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:45:00 - [60] You started downloading the upgrade from Trinity Classic Graphics Content to Premium Graphics Content BEFORE 04:00 GMT on Dec 6 You must be using a version of Windows other than Vista. You must have Windows installed not on the primary partition.or You must have at least 2 hard disks and the OS must be installed NOT on the primary, but the secondary hard disk. If u meet all of these you are a Arrrtard. Thanks for playing the internet game, you lose.

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