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Scott Ryder Infestation. The Cosa Nostra	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:45:00 - [61] Oh and one a sidenote: When you decide to sue, I will gladly hold on to your assets. Ooomph Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Chinua Suren Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:47:00 - [62] Edited by: Chinua Suren on 10/12/2007 10:47:22 Originally by: Clevermonkey snip THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, A*HOLE snip* snip F*ING MN. So FY and the horse you rode in on. snip Funny, I could have sworn that the above quotes related to YOU monkeyman. Seriously, all you do is humiliate yourself. You're acting like a little 6 year old child who just learned a bunch of naughty words. Why is it that you feel the urge to verbally assault pretty much everyone in this thread? Because they're ALL really dumb? Or just because you are? I'm betting the latter. --- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. û Goethe
Clevermonkey	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:49:00 - [63] I think you missed the point. CCP may be actionable. Yet the suit against them is worthless. I said that in the original post. READ>
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:52:00 - [64] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Clevermonkey It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. Thread just got interesting. /me offers crumple some of his popcorn nom nom nom - DesuSigs
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:53:00 - [65] Edited by: syphurous on 10/12/2007 10:56:18 Edited by: syphurous on 10/12/2007 10:54:37 Stop feeding the troll. nom nom nom ___ All Ur Salvage R Belong 2 Me !
the caligynephobist	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:53:00 - [66] yea, so my dishwasher stopped working on the weekend. i set it on fire hoping to fix it. STILL BROKEN. NEED TO SUE NOW! <talk about legal stuff and hope no-one notices i'm an angst ridden 12 year old>
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:54:00 - [67] Originally by: the caligynephobist yea, so my dishwasher stopped working on the weekend. i set it on fire hoping to fix it. STILL BROKEN. NEED TO SUE NOW! <talk about legal stuff and hope no-one notices i'm an angst ridden 12 year old> /thread - DesuSigs
Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:57:00 - [68] omg, my coffee was hot, lets sue!... omg i won. Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister In Eve-Online Forum Hijack Signature! -Ivan K This space is reserved for moderator hijacking, Need more colors! Red & Yellow & Pink & Green, Orange & Purple & ME! - Deckard My yellow pwns Deckard's fruity rainbow thingie anyday. BRING IT BABY! -Hango Black and pink 4tw however gold pwns -Eldo
Kirmok	Posted - 2007.12.10 10:59:00 - [69] Originally by: Clevermonkey Originally by: Kirmok Originally by: Gojyu Quote: Second: what business does the car wash have under my good unless I give them consent to wash my engine or something? The same business ccp has to delete the file responsible for windows booting up You gave them consent when you installed the software...read the EULA... Loved how you totally ignore point number 1 lol I have read the EULA and it would not stand up in court because it does not state which licences it has beyond the software you are using. "SYSTEM" is vague. no license, no case, so F* Y. and ten years later you get your 40 euros back. Then stfu and sue bud, put your "ISK" where your mouth is. Get my 40 euros back? What are you talking about? Laff laff
Logi3 Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:01:00 - [70] LoL at this thread, what a way to start work on a monday morning with a comedy thread like this started by some internet warrior. Lets us know how your case goes Clevermonkey, its interesting... ----
Illyrinia Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:02:00 - [71] lol, reason i really dont visit general, lol ppl here KNOW IT ALL
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:02:00 - [72] Edited by: Kerfira on 10/12/2007 11:03:58 Originally by: Clevermonkey Originally by: Zeonos and what harm did it do?, nobody lost anything. you could just insert your original cd, or a bootdisk, a live cd with linux, or repair windows. and its not like they didnt warn people as soon as they saw the problem.. if you lost some work, you only have your self to blame. Again. You know little about the law. You are a moron. People lost everything. Everything. If one person had to reformat their drive then CCP is ACTIONABLE. however, it is AGAIN useless as I posted originally. the law is in their favor. There is a very large fallacy in your argumentation.... I'll even provide an example: If I have a flat tire on my car (meaning I can't drive it), the car manufacturer is not financially responsible if I don't know how to change a tire, and instead order a complete replacement of every single little piece of the car except the chassis. Similarly, CCP is not in any way responsible for peoples stupidity, no matter how many offices they might have where! The boot.ini problem was utterly easy to solve, and if anyone lost data or reformatted their harddrive, it was because they did it themselves. CCP's patch deleted ONE, easily restorable, file! Within a couple of hours, there was detailed instructions made available on how to fix the problem. So please, stop playing lawyer, because you utterly fail at it! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Jian Blade	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:04:00 - [73] If CCP did this on purpose then obviously you should sue. However it was an accident - so just take it as one of lifes lumps of crap as it was and get over it.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:05:00 - [74] What is this thread about?? Sueing CCP or that its useless to sue CCP?
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:07:00 - [75] Anyone taking bets on number of posts before it's locked?
Illyrinia Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:07:00 - [76] WooT thx battle clinic for my sig \o/ LETS HIJACK THIS THREAD i like kittens
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:10:00 - [77] Originally by: Zeonos and what harm did it do?, nobody lost anything. you could just insert your original cd, or a bootdisk, a live cd with linux, or repair windows. and its not like they didnt warn people as soon as they saw the problem.. if you lost some work, you only have your self to blame. this it took me about 30 seconds to fix, if i had shut down would have taken maybe 3 mins to fix?
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:10:00 - [78] The EULA most likely wouldn't protect them from the gross negligence of deleting a boot.ini file. However unless you spent money fixing the problem yourself such as calling Geek Squad, or another computer technical service which charged you for the service, you are going to have a very hard time proving that you suffered any meaningful loss. Thus to sue you'd have to prove an economic loss (such as that by paying a technical corp to fix your computer). Otherwise you would not be eligible to sue. It doesn't matter whether the loss occurred before or after CCPs announcement since you may not have received the announcement, after all they didn't email me about it despite having my email address. The next problem would then be getting the thing into class action, which is not always easy. Since the entire player base cannot meet the economic loss test, then it would be much harder to sue on a broad class action platform. If several people started individual lawsuits in the same jurisdiction, then it is possible that a judge might consolidate them into one case, but that is not the same as a class action. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Illyrinia Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:12:00 - [79] I DECLARE THIS THREAD HIJACKED NO MORE POSTS ABOUT THE OP NO ONE WILL SUE, WE ARE ALL EVE ADDICTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111 <-1's are excitement enhancing numbers that mean out of my excitement i wasnt able to hold the SHIFT key and the 1 key at once SIG \o/
Obsequious Woe	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:21:00 - [80] I also 100% agree with the OP ... that the EULA means NOTHING and that you could sue... also that there isn't a wet chance in hell you would get anything worth while. In most places EULA's aren't worth the time they take to type ... I wish they were ... but there not. I wasn't affected by this hick up ... and i think it speaks badly of CCP that it even happened .. but there is FARK all you can do about it next to whinging which seems pretty high on some peoples minds. Build a bridge and get the heck over it. OW
Saralle Zhukov	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:23:00 - [81] Oh man. I just suffered through reading this entire thread. If the case goes to Iceland and trial by combat is allowed, I will sue CCP just so I can challenge the CEO of CCP to trial by combat with a Nerf Bat and/or Silly String, with left hands lashed together. MuHaHaHa!!! And anybody else who sues will get sued with the same challenge in Iceland! Saralle Zhukov [WinTech] For the Win!!!
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:25:00 - [82] Originally by: Kirmok First off: if I went to a car wash that wanted me to sign terms of use, I wouldn't do business with them. Second: what business does the car wash have under my good unless I give them consent to wash my engine or something? Not really an apt analogy. More suitable: I want a shiny new exhaust for my Fiat. So I take it to an exhaust place. They sell me an exhaust, which has only been tested on Fords and Chevys, though it should work, and offer to install it for free. During the installation they break something. "Um, yeah, this is the muffler shop. We broke your central control arm, and your Mussolini linkage is looking a bit bent. Can't have the car back today. Tomorrow." "But I need the car to get to work! You people will pay!" "Maybe for a cab, but that's about it. See ya tomorrow buddy. Oh and it's 25 boogs a day for cars left on site!" "You morons! Go ride a horse!" Can't sue the muffler shop for your time because you're using your personal vehicle to further commercial interests. Can't sue CCP (well, you could, but it would be dumb) if you used the same computer you use to make money with, for recreation as well. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Grimm Myn Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:25:00 - [83] Originally by: Clevermonkey Edited by: Clevermonkey on 10/12/2007 10:32:54 Originally by: Grimm Myn Originally by: Clevermonkey It is easy for you to sit there like THE VEIN, SELF CENTERED, AHOLE YOU ARE because you were not effected by this. There are some really angry people out there. I suspect if you were really effected by this calamity you would be talking a different game. I can tell because you only like to hear yourself talk and you don't listen because you are a FING MN. So FY* and the horse you rode in on. ROFL @ You. The IQ of this thread just dropped below subzero conditions. You know mate, you're right, this didnt happen to me, if it did, i would have quickly read the forums/google it/see the bloody warning messages, fix it and keep on gaming instead of ****ing about how unfair the whole world is and how i want to sue a company because it mistakenly deleted a file which shouldnt have been deleted. Gets on his nber-high-horse, pats "Clever"monkey on the head, gives him the /wrist command and rides into the sunset* B4\|\|0cks you would have cried to your MOMMY, and ran of to the pub to complain that your system went down. Don't lie to me. you attitude proves it. you lack adaptability. Comes back riding in on his horse Wow, neat to know you know me better than i know myself. Thanks for that absolute clueless assessment of my personality. MY lack of adaptability, I aint the one complaining about my PC going down the tubes, please, look at yourself, judge what you see and then hang your head in shame. @ Major Death, true enough but as already stated, in this day and age, a computer is generally a small leap away. In my case i have a few PC's at home which i could have used, else i could have checked the forums at work, a library or the McDonalds down the road. Or i would have fixed it myself as i do know something about computers and the effects of a missing boot.ini ;) But point taken, clevermonkey might be living in a Development Country and he's the only guy with a PC in a 100km radius. Takes a handful of popcorn, hops on his horse and rides away again
Obsequious Woe	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:26:00 - [84] I'm all for trial by nerf bat and silly string. OW
Forando Interstellar Cowards	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:26:00 - [85] Edited by: Forando on 10/12/2007 11:26:09 http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2339315 Enjoy, and fly safe..
Call'Da Poleece	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:27:00 - [86] Fanboi Ninja Forum Warriors read this...... Originally by: Mecinia Lua The EULA most likely wouldn't protect them from the gross negligence of deleting a boot.ini file. Indeed, even though the deletion of the file was purely accidental, CCP are guilty of negligence. Quote: However unless you spent money fixing the problem yourself such as calling Geek Squad, or another computer technical service which charged you for the service, you are going to have a very hard time proving that you suffered any meaningful loss. Thus to sue you'd have to prove an economic loss (such as that by paying a technical corp to fix your computer). Otherwise you would not be eligible to sue. It doesn't matter whether the loss occurred before or after CCPs announcement since you may not have received the announcement, after all they didn't email me about it despite having my email address. The next problem would then be getting the thing into class action, which is not always easy. Since the entire player base cannot meet the economic loss test, then it would be much harder to sue on a broad class action platform. If several people started individual lawsuits in the same jurisdiction, then it is possible that a judge might consolidate them into one case, but that is not the same as a class action. Also true and generally agrees with the OP no matter how obnoxious he is.
Obsequious Woe	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:28:00 - [87] Originally by: Sister Impotentata I want a shiny new exhaust for my Fiat. the same computer you use to make money with, for recreation as well. Your problem is right there ... you drive a Fiat. OW
Vagablonde Ivy League	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:31:00 - [88] if i had some spare cash i would genuinely sue ccp and see if it got anywhere, just to stop this tiresome forum lawyering. ________________ the way back home is always long, but if you're close to me i'm holding on.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:33:00 - [89] Originally by: Forando Edited by: Forando on 10/12/2007 11:26:09 http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2339315 http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2339321
Apocryphai Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.10 11:33:00 - [90] And "Clevermonkey" joins the list of people blocked by CAOD Cleaner for calling anyone who disagrees with him a moron. Really, Clevermonkey, your debating and discussion skills are sub-par, even for an internet spaceships forum. Don't waste your time replying to this, I'll never see another one of your posts again thanks to the above-mentioned script. ________________________________________________________________ Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.

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