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Rastadeen Minmatar The Singularity Project Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.12.23 16:36:00 - [31] I was buying xmas present for my niese and i saw a pirate game with Tortuga in it... so i guess its...something piraty :P
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.12.23 16:46:00 - [32] Originally by: James Peabody MC CLAIM PB!!! TRAITORS!!!!!!! They exclaimed. MC and the Tortugans were no real threat to BoB, despite the conjecture the tin foilists attempted to spread in the slurry.... Besides all the other nonsense (e.g. Tortugeans the finest pvp people ... yeah, then all the others (razors, tri, aaa, ra and and and) are also the finest pvp's and therefore 'finest' makes no sense) just claiming a region where BoB hads lots of moon mining towers and at least one station for rent out there not being an hostile and agressive act - well, then I don't know what else is agressive and hostile. It WAS a backstab, no matter how much anyone tries to spin that. And it was also stupid. It will cost MC heavily. Inviting Ev0ke who said they are not interested in POS warfare any more and left because of that D2 in the middle of a war... yeah, sure - and they will behave this time different? KIA being maybe some good merc group but territory holding? The whole idea about Tortuga is a fail. Mercs and territory holding does not go along very well. Because territory makes you vulnerable without any big gain. What is the advantage: that you can build supercaps. And that's it. But is that enough? Time will tell, but I don't think so. The results are clear: BoB and MC killing each other and Goons having a good laugh. In the end both MC and BoB will lose from this fighting.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.23 16:52:00 - [33] Originally by: James Peabody Tick Tock.... the greatest definition that Eve has ever seen? or a cursed utterance? I say "pling plong" myself. "...been designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Imagine a handful of repair drones pouring from the carebear's mouth. Now imagine they have um, nothing." -Unknown Hel redesigner (2007)
BAteh Taggart Transdimensional Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.23 16:59:00 - [34] As MegaDeth so wisely put it: "So Far, So Good.. So What?"
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 17:11:00 - [35] Originally by: Lazuran Originally by: James Peabody Tick Tock.... the greatest definition that Eve has ever seen? or a cursed utterance? I say "pling plong" myself. We say "ping" and MC says "pong".
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:07:00 - [36] It has been 1 week and bob have completely raped tort. Theyre accomplishing everything they are setting out to do. Why would they let them take pb? If bob didnt want pb they would have pulled out of it earlier. If mc didnt want to fight with bob, they would have negotiated the taking over of paragon soul or another of bobs regions they recently left, or maybe even defended thier stations up north. Bobs future looks bleak whichever way they go. From a tactical point of view theyre doing the correct option. If by some chance they can keep up those huge numbers for long enough in pb (while ragoon waste thier time in catch then their ever trusty invasion shield querious) and be able to beat tort they will be free of having a 3rd front and be able to come bail fix out, whos space will take at least a month and half for ragoon to bust through. The only tacticle blunder i see here is ragoon not taking advantage of this and invading delve. Catch does not matter, and bob wont defend it as heavily as they do thier home regions, so theres no reason to fight there while the pb invasion is going on. Oh, and pa fought the gnw, not nva. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
FOEHAMMER006 Damage Unlimited Inc	Posted - 2007.12.23 18:35:00 - [37] How can anyone determine the future of either MC or BoB or anyone for that matter. BoB and MC shoot at each other. Everyone else watches. They have lots of lag infested fun. I hope they are enjoying it.
General Tsao GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:15:00 - [38] Originally by: fugazii It has been 1 week and bob have completely raped tort. Did they take PB back?
BoB sucks Burning Bush Enterprises	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:21:00 - [39] Originally by: Shoukei hi mittani! second BoB post spotted
OozoO Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:22:00 - [40] bob broke in omist, the war has long been over, they just didnt notice Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected])
OozoO Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:23:00 - [41] Originally by: OozoO bob broke in omist, the war has long been over, they just didnt notice or maybe they just took in LV - this was the end of their glorious alliance vOv Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected])
OozoO Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Elder Bob Originally by: Lazuran Originally by: James Peabody Tick Tock.... the greatest definition that Eve has ever seen? or a cursed utterance? I say "pling plong" myself. We say "ping" and MC says "pong". what does bruce say?! Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected])
OozoO Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:25:00 - [43] Originally by: OozoO Originally by: Elder Bob Originally by: Lazuran Originally by: James Peabody Tick Tock.... the greatest definition that Eve has ever seen? or a cursed utterance? I say "pling plong" myself. We say "ping" and MC says "pong". what does bruce say?! what do I say?! Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected])
OozoO Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:25:00 - [44] Originally by: OozoO what do I say?! thats right z 0 r! **** farts leans back Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected])
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.23 20:28:00 - [45] Originally by: OozoO Originally by: Elder Bob Originally by: Lazuran Originally by: James Peabody Tick Tock.... the greatest definition that Eve has ever seen? or a cursed utterance? I say "pling plong" myself. We say "ping" and MC says "pong". what does bruce say?! G'day
Danari Amarr Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.23 21:06:00 - [46] ôIn case of doubt, attack.ö -- General George S. Patton, Jr. "Die alt." -- Danari
Future Thing Ninja Warriors of the Round Table	Posted - 2007.12.23 21:18:00 - [47] You know that wasn't actually a bad post by the op at all. Mostly accurate, although I think it's probably a bit early say BoB will definatly die. What will decide the outcome of this war is when the coalition has to put capitals on the line to take delve. These large scale cap battles will be the defining moment of the war. Admittedly it doesn't look good for BoB, but it's not looked good for many entities in and out of eve only for them to turn things around.
wicked cheese Eth3real Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.23 23:05:00 - [48] Originally by: James Peabody The siege of TPAR will probably end up being BoBs defining moment... a decision made upon pride, taken on the sword of arrogance, and seen through the with zealous of mad men.... mad men whos honour and achievements will live on, but only in the History of Eve, not in the Future that they craved to create and control. i was in the ascn siege of tpar. i still remember the night we did it. had about 250 (including blues) against 30 reds. station and gates were locked down with tons of medium bubbles (before larges came out). and we setup about 10 large POS's...though if i remember right half of them didnt have guns...lol. unless im mistaking we held tpar/tcag as the front line's for about a month? thats ALOT of pos huggin time lmao welcome to the internet. where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are police men.
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.23 23:23:00 - [49] two bdci guys rampaged me at TF2 earlier today, not cool. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:33:00 - [50] Edited by: Iva Soreass on 24/12/2007 00:33:05 You know what makes me laugh, everyone slaughted MC for like the last year with the old "blah blah blah your BoB pets blah blah, DIE !!111!" crap. Every other alliance that has "Jumped" on the bandwaggon has been mocked and spoonspammed, yet cause you all know what kinda pvp force MC can bring (and now with even more with the "new" allies you all ****e a brick and turn into brown nose's. If BoB do lose i sure hope MC and there "new" allies see thru all your brown noseing and "steamroll" you.
Dominixa Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:36:00 - [51] Has Tortuga napped the goonswarm and co yet? Appears theyve + Morsus and co?
D8 PREACHER Reiskokopops	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:39:00 - [52] kudos to bob for bringing it and bringing it big time who will win ? hmm , bob are doing what they have done many times , assaulting a region . MC etc are fairly new at defending a home region , but they have defended regions before . the main difference is they dont have a fanboi meatshield now , in the past they have supplied the caps/firepower with a meatshield/support like roadkill . It will be interesting , the joker in the pack/woodpile is that neither bob nor tortilla are owed any favors or mercy from the coalition , if they expect any mercy or support from aaa/iac/goons/red/rsf etc , they deffo are flying in cloud cuckoo land
Tipz NexAstrum Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:49:00 - [53] Too much of this seems strangely familiar
Skilo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:06:00 - [54] Originally by: Jane Spondogolo (...) Theres one big difference between BOB and MC. BOB , for all its reputation, have become fat and bloated with carebears and second rate "PVPers". Its not the sharp pointy death machine it used to be. (...) We don't have second rate "PVPers" We just have fat carebears Get your info right next time.
ArcticFox Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.12.24 08:49:00 - [55] Edited by: ArcticFox on 24/12/2007 08:51:01 An alliance under threat of losing all its territory (even from the crushing force of being under attack on multiple fronts) is not necessarily an alliance about to die, kids. We would do well to remember who taught us that lesson, and where they are now. Not saying it can't happen, just remember, don't count your chickens before they hatch. -------------------------- There is no +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve.
Tempest Kane Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.24 09:49:00 - [56] Originally by: Jane Spondogolo 1) "They utterly smashed the north and have steam rolled every fight they have actually put the whole cap-force death machine to work in." 2) "Selene chose this path" 3) "Keep at it. BOB can't handle body bags." 1) They had more support alliances working for them providing support fleets/meatshields than whole population of the GBC as it currently stands. In addition to this they were a high quality pvp group, with years of experience at what they do, just coming out of an extreme period of "self indulgence" were they had operated industrial maneuvers consistantly to produce their capital fleets and stock pile resources. They were fighting fresh against and allready weak and ill experienced adversary, Once D2 fell everyone else just collapsed in on themselves, and D2 was still feeling the pain of its downed titan and decimated capital fleet at the hands of the GBC in fountain. They were not cut out to provide any kind of competition against the MC, so to say they steam rolled the north and that makes them great.. lol. Its like saying who would win... Eve-Uni or Outbreak, its no competition at all. 2) I think your very much mistaken if you belive that selene had anything to do with our current situation, he has become a puppet to the ego of others and has allowed the reputation of his once pride worthy organization be sullied by the northern monkeys that now infest his corps, most of them residing in the ENTY corp, recruited out of desperation for numbers and eventually pulling the rug from under the old school, make no mistake about it, this is a power struggle not a single mind, alot of MC are in uproar about the current events. None more so than selene on the first night he saw our capital force (90% BOB btw guys, thats a fact) and realized what would become of his once proud band of troops. The game is up. Whatever it costs to see you loose everything is not nearly expensive enougth. 3) Body bags? We have been hard at this for longer than you knew how to login to this game, in an almost constant state of egression with the very best this game had to offer, if you think its over, your in for a shock. But by all means beat your chest while we continue to show our resolve on the battlefield, and stretch your mind every time you fail and have to invent new reasons why this maybe. The truth is, were just better than you. Tick Tock..
Kif GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.24 09:50:00 - [57] A+++ would buy from again
Aequitas Veritas Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.24 10:04:00 - [58] I enjoy this :D Nothing like fighting after 5 mins travelling from your home base. Logging on when the call goes out for something and getting instant action. Its what we do, we fight, we kill, we die & we love the adrenaline surge it gives us. MC gave us a close target & included feelings in the mix as well. Cudos to them for bringing it! Oh, merry Christmas all! "The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Breyghun Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.12.24 10:21:00 - [59] Originally by: Tempest Kane Originally by: Jane Spondogolo 1) "They utterly smashed the north and have steam rolled every fight they have actually put the whole cap-force death machine to work in." 2) "Selene chose this path" 3) "Keep at it. BOB can't handle body bags." 1) They had more support alliances working for them providing support fleets/meatshields than whole population of the GBC as it currently stands. In addition to this they were a high quality pvp group, with years of experience at what they do, just coming out of an extreme period of "self indulgence" were they had operated industrial maneuvers consistantly to produce their capital fleets and stock pile resources. They were fighting fresh against and allready weak and ill experienced adversary, Once D2 fell everyone else just collapsed in on themselves, and D2 was still feeling the pain of its downed titan and decimated capital fleet at the hands of the GBC in fountain. They were not cut out to provide any kind of competition against the MC, so to say they steam rolled the north and that makes them great.. lol. Its like saying who would win... Eve-Uni or Outbreak, its no competition at all. 2) I think your very much mistaken if you belive that selene had anything to do with our current situation, he has become a puppet to the ego of others and has allowed the reputation of his once pride worthy organization be sullied by the northern monkeys that now infest his corps, most of them residing in the ENTY corp, recruited out of desperation for numbers and eventually pulling the rug from under the old school, make no mistake about it, this is a power struggle not a single mind, alot of MC are in uproar about the current events. None more so than selene on the first night he saw our capital force (90% BOB btw guys, thats a fact) and realized what would become of his once proud band of troops. The game is up. Whatever it costs to see you loose everything is not nearly expensive enougth. 3) Body bags? We have been hard at this for longer than you knew how to login to this game, in an almost constant state of egression with the very best this game had to offer, if you think its over, your in for a shock. But by all means beat your chest while we continue to show our resolve on the battlefield, and stretch your mind every time you fail and have to invent new reasons why this maybe. The truth is, were just better than you. Tick Tock.. This is like a title unification fight, with the 2 Alliances that have achieved the most through experience and a better understanding of game mechanics trading punches. The wealth assembled to settle this is awe inspiring (and is probably going to be the biggest ISK sink in EvE for some time!). The fact remains that the cozy BoB/MC axis pain machine has finally turned in on itself. Combined they were un-beatable but apart they will probably both emerge in a very different form. There are going to be rough times ahead but I wouldn't be surprised to see a new "Tortuga style alliance" put together by old BoB/MC compatriots, once enough blood has been shed to salve the pride of the big movers in each alliance. If the BoB name is to join the cherished memories of the EvE population, then they should do it in style with all guns blazing. Great post by the Op initially and also be Tempest Kane whose facts are a little off but whose spirit is commendable. Reikoku are the heartbeat of BoB and I'm convinced they'll remain so for whatever is cloned from the BoB and MC fallout in the months to come. schlepp, schlock, schmaltz, scmooze, ****** are all the words you need in life.*
Saffronique Blue Sky Inc	Posted - 2007.12.24 11:09:00 - [60] Originally by: Breyghun There are going to be rough times ahead but I wouldn't be surprised to see a new "Tortuga style alliance" put together by old BoB/MC compatriots, once enough blood has been shed to salve the pride of the big movers in each alliance. It may have happened if the BOB leadership didn't spin this "omg betrayal" bs. Your average BOBit would probably die rather than fly with some of the MC members nowadays. Not to say the same probably isn't true for the average MC pilot. Will take a year at least before people lighten up a bit and consider flying with their bitter enemies imo.

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