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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.12.29 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Nymysys
Originally by: marakor BTW im fighting against BOB in delve at the moment so as far as this comment is concerned;
Marakor, no one in COAD believes you are fighting againt BoB. Post with your main and we will know the truth.
Also, metagaming has nothing to do with it. Most games involve the use of psychology. Knowing your opponents behaviour and reactions to stimuli are not the same as TS hax and spying.
One of your guys posted my mains name on here a few days ago if you were not watching thats your problem as this is my forum dude and i will not stop posting with it.
no one probably cares.
just like the rest of "the great war" -- bob has brought this upon themselves. they chose to turtle, and now they've chosen this course as well...
I certainly dont think alt posting matters just content but hey other seem to think its worthy of entire threads.
And i agree with you that bob's successes play a huge part in why so many ppl are fighting them.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.29 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii The similarities between those alliances and bob are few to none. Taking LV space took about a month, and you only had to contend with sov1, not 2/3/4.
Sure, it will be harder. Which isn't to say impossible, far from it. Bob members are humans, not machines, and they'll end up affected by the same factors that made other alliances who swore to resist to the very end, fade into non-existense, or give up Delve and restart elsewhere.
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Just look at rise space, it took you guys multiple months to break the triangle...3 stations! and it was primarily rise defending, very few bob. Givin your guys track record if you can take delve it wont be for at least a year.
Do you actually think the actual siege lasted for months? You are sadly mistaken. It took 2 weeks, because of the Sov4. ------------------------------------------
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nymysys Nez,
BoB are not by and large pvpers (in the sense that they love conflict for the sake of conflict). They are, by and large, people that like to win with a minimum amount of effort, and be idoloized by the masses because of the particular group they belong to. They do not love war, but the spoils of victory. That is why they have been, until relatively recently, very picky about their membership. Up until the Great War, they selected their battles based on a thorough knowledge of their enemy. They knew the targets they picked did not truly want to fight, mere carebears in 0.0. They picked battles they were sure to win, because, God forbid, they should lose.
Since last summer, BoB has been kicked across the galaxy (literally). There have been many occasions where BoB (these mythical pvpvers of yours) could have engaged in PVP on a grand scale. But they did not. Why? Because they knew it would require more effort to prevail than they were willing to muster.
So, enter Fortress Delve. Less effort for their player base to travel to the place of battle, right? Well, itÆs not like they were based out of Delve when they were fighting us in Scalding Pass, Detroid, Feyth. Proximity is not going to make a difference. Their holdings in Catch are as about as close to Delve as one can get, and we have seen their underwhelming performance over the last week or so. And Tortuga is not a sufficient explanation for it.
When the going got tough, many of the old guard left BoB or no longer bother to log in. BoB has been forced to accept the dregs of a thousand failed alliances to fill their ranks. This new blood is what Molle and rest of the BoB's inner circle are depending on to turn the tide, to man the ramparts night after night after night after night, to face the horde against them. All those hopes and dreams rested on the shoulders of pilots that share the singular trait of abandoning their previous brothers and sisters in arms at the time of their greatest need.
The Battle for Fortress Delve will consist of BoB showing up in droves for that first big confrontation, only to be denied the glory of a decisive battle. The same will happen the next night, then the next, then the next. There is nothing more appealing to one of these BoB pvpers of yours than logging in every morning at 0300 (or staying up all night), to sit in a laggy system doing nothing. It has been thus with our entire campaign against them. Eventually, sufficient numbers will not bother, or be distracted somewhere else, and the system will fall. Then the next big confrontation will be set. Rinse and repeat. During this process, more and more people will leave, more and more will not bother logging in, the chance of corp theft will grow. The failure cascade will grow and grow. Heck, some of them are even plotting what to do when Rome burns as I type.
RSF's success lies in that WE are the true pvpers. We play against the players, not their ships or ISK. We know what motivates our enemies, what discourages them. It is a matter of will. BoB lost that battle a long time ago.
Now, of course, there will be a procession of BoB alts and other naysayers that will puff up their little electronic egos and deny my characterizations. Their actions in game say otherwise.
Ok ....Ypu are the so called PVers why donŠt you make a 1vs1 against BoB?
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: marakor And i agree with you that bob's successes play a huge part in why so many ppl are fighting them.
How did they reach this success? There is your answer to why we are where we are today. The method can be just as important as the result.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lou Ping "For it is the soldier's disposition to offer an obstinate resistance when surrounded, to fight hard when he cannot help himself, and to obey promptly when he has fallen into danger." - SUN TZU, The art of war.
I dont post very often, but I have to reply to this thread. I wont discuss the wisdom of attacking period base but I will say this about Delve.
You have to realise that Delve is BoB home ground so defending it what every bob pilot will do. To many resources and BoB assets are in Delve.
Also the greatest single aspect of sustaining a war is isk. To put it bluntley BoB pilots on the most part are rich. Isk is not a problem. They have also refocused thier isk making so it does not rely on 0.0 space.
Tortuga ...RA, goons etc... Meet Fortress Delve.
LP
also this is funny because bob has a set idea of how the attack on delve will occur, and as usual their idea is exactly the opposite of what will happen
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: marakor And i agree with you that bob's successes play a huge part in why so many ppl are fighting them.
How did they reach this success? There is your answer to why we are where we are today. The method can be just as important as the result.
The results are why we are here today they fought and killed every one of the largest alliances in game including yours (although the others disbanded instead of hiding in npc stations)
They kept their membership to the high sp pvp players only and because of the fact that the members of all the alliances they destroyed do not actualy leave eve they now have created a rather large bunch off miffed players. Who with the titan nerf and other pro-blob patches ccp seem to think are a good idea now can blob the crap out of them.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: marakor And i agree with you that bob's successes play a huge part in why so many ppl are fighting them.
How did they reach this success? There is your answer to why we are where we are today. The method can be just as important as the result.
The results are why we are here today they fought and killed every one of the largest alliances in game including yours (although the others disbanded instead of hiding in npc stations)
They kept their membership to the high sp pvp players only and because of the fact that the members of all the alliances they destroyed do not actualy leave eve they now have created a rather large bunch off miffed players. Who with the titan nerf and other pro-blob patches ccp seem to think are a good idea now can blob the crap out of them.
and with a lil bit of help from the inside ;)
omg ! evol use login traps.. CCP :its valid OMG Blades returned teh favor ! .. CCP : its now considerd an exploit
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 30/12/2007 01:00:11
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: marakor And i agree with you that bob's successes play a huge part in why so many ppl are fighting them.
How did they reach this success? There is your answer to why we are where we are today. The method can be just as important as the result.
The results are why we are here today they fought and killed every one of the largest alliances in game including yours (although the others disbanded instead of hiding in npc stations)
They kept their membership to the high sp pvp players only and because of the fact that the members of all the alliances they destroyed do not actualy leave eve they now have created a rather large bunch off miffed players. Who with the titan nerf and other pro-blob patches ccp seem to think are a good idea now can blob the crap out of them.
and with a lil bit of help from the inside ;)
omg ! evol use login traps.. CCP :its valid OMG Blades returned teh favor ! .. CCP : its now considerd an exploit
Yea that sabre bpo and the t2 ammo bpo realy turned the tide in all those multi-multi thousand player wars.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: PSA1SWIPE on 30/12/2007 01:03:48
Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 30/12/2007 01:00:11
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: marakor And i agree with you that bob's successes play a huge part in why so many ppl are fighting them.
How did they reach this success? There is your answer to why we are where we are today. The method can be just as important as the result.
The results are why we are here today they fought and killed every one of the largest alliances in game including yours (although the others disbanded instead of hiding in npc stations)
They kept their membership to the high sp pvp players only and because of the fact that the members of all the alliances they destroyed do not actualy leave eve they now have created a rather large bunch off miffed players. Who with the titan nerf and other pro-blob patches ccp seem to think are a good idea now can blob the crap out of them.
and with a lil bit of help from the inside ;)
omg ! evol use login traps.. CCP :its valid OMG Blades returned teh favor ! .. CCP : its now considerd an exploit
Yea that sabre bpo and the t2 ammo bpo realy turned the tide in all those multi-multi thousand player wars.
that happend 20o3-2004
i think as some wouold like to call it you got owned _______________________
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:12:21 Personal comment : 50% of the ennemies of the ex-GBC are for BoB, 50% are for Tortugans. Primary is still BoB anyway so I have just a question for the BoB forum wariors.
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Just common sense : do you think the "flower" (ask a french guy) we do to you by now launching the train now again would be ever stopped after we launch that train again.
Explanation/translation : Goons : "yarr Biob have one knee on the floor let's roll" , others "wait", Goons "yarrrrrrrrr", others "wait", Goons "YYYYAYAYAYYAYYAARRRRRR!", others "wait" => when the others will say "go", how could we stop then ? 2isk
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Personal comment : 50% of the ennemies of the ex-GBC are for BoB, 50% are for Tortugans. Primary is still BoB anyway so I have just a question for the BoB forum wariors.
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob in the future ?
We wanted that way ? we wanted the fight all and loose / win ?
Its a nice spin from the start as they cant loose , since all they wanted was was this xx _______________________
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:23:14 Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:15:00
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Personal comment : 50% of the ennemies of the ex-GBC are for BoB, 50% are for Tortugans. Primary is still BoB anyway so I have just a question for the BoB forum wariors.
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob in the future ?
We wanted that way ? we wanted the fight all and loose / win ?
Its a nice spin from the start as they cant loose , since all they wanted was was this xx
I have edited my post to ask a few more things. Anyway who beleived this "yeah nice dread we didn't want it anyway". It is now an old joke among the Coalition.
'was said by former LV, now half the part of Bob.
-edit- (i love to edit my posts) Personaly I think helping LV was a political defence test. Now it's just panic (panic as in "Let's evacuate 3 regions" or as in "Let's stop to defend against the coalition to fight the tortugans" or as in "Let's ask silly ramsons to our supporting corps/alliance because we can't farm or make enough money by our own" - personal comment : vampires). 2isk
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that? |
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:29:09
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that?
Yes - edit - you picked the fight at first, don't whine if I lol 2isk
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:29:09
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that?
Yes - edit - you picked the fight at first, don't whine if I lol
RSF would get pwned and you know it.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that?
It was only 10 Thorax against your uberness and we all saw the results of that one
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:33:54
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:29:09
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that?
Yes - edit - you picked the fight at first, don't whine if I lol
RSF would get pwned and you know it.
Hey, it's my popcorn, don't take it from me :) (aka I see what you did there) 2isk
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Rizzel
It was only 10 Thorax against your uberness and we all saw the results of that one
Sometimes you lose and sometimes you win 7 unique ships worth 500b+ total. |
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kane Rizzel on 30/12/2007 01:37:54 Edit: NVM
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
RSF would get pwned and you know it.
Sry, nop
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:45:00 -
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My head says "Go Bob !". My heart says "Go Mac BOKE !". I can't choose on this.
Have fun anyway ! 2isk
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn My head says "Go Bob !". My heart says "Go Mac BOKE !". I can't choose on this.
Have fun anyway !
Shoot bob but take the p*ss out of goons and all the rest of the blinkered obsessive bob haters, it works for me.
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CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pesadel0
Ok ....Ypu are the so called PVers why donŠt you make a 1vs1 against BoB?
We tried, they all left
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that?
During GNW y didnt had a problem with that ;) _______________________
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn My head says "Go Bob !". My heart says "Go Mac BOKE !". I can't choose on this.
Have fun anyway !
Shoot bob but take the p*ss out of goons and all the rest of the blinkered obsessive bob haters, it works for me.
ey so why avoid my post , y werent there back then or are a bob alt ? _______________________
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.30 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:29:09
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that?
Yes - edit - you picked the fight at first, don't whine if I lol
RSF would get pwned and you know it.
Does your jaw ever hurt from opening wide for BoB?
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.30 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 30/12/2007 01:29:09
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
If RSF ("only" the three of us) was to massivly attack BoB in one minute from now, how would you picture Bob (and their allies) in the future ?
Its only 8147 (RSF) vs 2743 (BoB) characters, are you sure your side would be comfortable with that?
Yes - edit - you picked the fight at first, don't whine if I lol
RSF would get pwned and you know it.
Now, you're a troll alt. I understand that - the reason you say things like this is not to convince anyone but to enrage them. However, in this case I'm just interested; do you actually believe this?
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ProphetGuru
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
During GNW y didnt had a problem with that ;)
2004 called and would like to remind you that you guys sucking had very little to do with numbers in the gnw.
ps
noone cares that you're bitter.
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Cirillo
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Posted - 2007.12.30 06:34:00 -
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difference from tortugans vs bob?
and rsf+aaa+iac+etc vs bob?
1200 tortugans have a stalemate vs 4000 (bob+styx+exo+ other pet) outnumbered they block bob and anyway claim 4/5 station of pb in 10 days. And bob aren't able to counter attack any of tortugans system.
20k player aaa+rsf +others need 1 year for claim all bob+pet region, and now whit that number have lower progress than 1200 tortugans.
For have a similar advance, rsf need to conquer all fix space in 2 weeks. (whit 20x more number than tortugans) against lesser capital-titan (cause majority of bob capital is on tpar for block tortugans)
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CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.30 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cirillo
difference from tortugans vs bob?
and rsf+aaa+iac+etc vs bob?
1200 tortugans have a stalemate vs 4000 (bob+styx+exo+ other pet) outnumbered they block bob and anyway claim 4/5 station of pb in 10 days. And bob aren't able to counter attack any of tortugans system.
20k player aaa+rsf +others need 1 year for claim all bob+pet region, and now whit that number have lower progress than 1200 tortugans.
For have a similar advance, rsf need to conquer all fix space in 2 weeks. (whit 20x more number than tortugans) against lesser capital-titan (cause majority of bob capital is on tpar for block tortugans)
What are you trying to say?
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