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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:15:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM. Really? Where is he? He's just sitting back hoping the membership of his very large corp coasts him into a seat. He knows most people outside of the Uni (current and ex-) think his ideas are ridiculous. I expect he won't have much to say from this point forward.
To YOU? probably not.. to a normal and reasonable question, rather then a rant. I'm sure he'll answer.
BTW: You keep spouting off about how great Mitani is. (I don't know since I didn't keep up with the politics) however, I just went through the 14 pages of his campaign, and there is no post on there about what his campaign is. What he wants to achieve, what he want's to change etc. |

testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
38
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:15:00 -
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Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure! |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:18:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure!
ROFL..You crazy?
Make every other candidate's corp do the same then.
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:23:00 -
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Kelduum Question for you:
Seeming the negative impact your War Dec idea has gotten. Do you have any other ideas on how to "fix" the war dec system?
BTW: For any of you complaining about the war decs being mutual. The issue is not of mutuality. But rather the inability of any sized corp to just war dec for ***** and giggles and then not bother to engage in said war. |

Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1465
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:19:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:Seeming the negative impact your War Dec idea has gotten. Do you have any other ideas on how to "fix" the war dec system?
I don't immediately have any other ways to "fix" the current system, however assuming CCP were to leave the core of the system as it is, there are a couple of ways to resolve the current loopholes: 1. Allow a new wardec to immediately 'warm up' a war from the same corporation which is in cooldown. This would remove the delay for the 'alliance hopping' loophole. Some changes could also be made to the voting system to remove that delay. 2. Change the mechanics of mutual wars slightly so they generate a 0 ISK bill, and adjust war length to 1 day by default (with adjusted cost to match). This would then mean that an attacker would need to automatically pay the bills daily or enable the automatic payment. This would close the DecShield loophole, and likely deal with the issues the Uni has with corporations who declare war then don't even bother to log in.
The problem with some of the suggestions such as preventing people from leaving a corporation, or having the war follow them, is that this would mean many who don't want to be involved would simply not log in, and drop to (then likely remain in) an NPC corp, losing a huge part of the community aspect, which is the best way to keep someone subscribing.
Oh, and testobjekt, feel free to ask the other candidates for their keys too - both corp and personal. You aren't going to get the location of the E-UNI titan fleet that easily, but feel free to come up with some more 'hard' questions. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2029
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:20:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:testobjekt wrote:Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure! ROFL..You crazy? Make every other candidate's corp do the same then.
About that.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlIIq5agK7rWdDRnaWwzMVRrYTFCTG1sZEJhTWN1Z1E yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Twisted Trucker
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:29:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure!
YOU first, or STFU!
He said, he would provide it to a neutral party for verification, but apparently you don't read so well....
In fact, I don't think Kelduum should do squat, to prove he doesn't "benefit" from the Uni.
YOU the accuser, on the other hand, SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE IT, that he does "benefit" from the Uni.
Oh, that's right, you don't have proof that he does, you're "witch-hunting/trolling" now STFU! |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
219
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:32:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:Kelduum make the api key public for full disclosure! Provide your full API key - I've never seen anyone provide full corporate / alliance API pulls for a CSM candidate.
Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2029
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:41:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public.
Used to be public so vOv yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
219
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Posted - 2012.02.12 18:03:00 -
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Andski wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public. Used to be public so vOv What was it?
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2029
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Posted - 2012.02.12 18:06:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Andski wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public. Used to be public so vOv What was it?
GSF's ~public~ balance sheet, heh. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
125
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Posted - 2012.02.12 18:54:00 -
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Andski wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Andski wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Don't know what that is - other than a page Google says no - one can enter without sending a request for permissions... If it's supposed to be some sort of rebuttal, make it open to the public. Used to be public so vOv What was it? GSF's ~public~ balance sheet, heh.
I'd prefer to see the private one.  |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 18:55:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:I intend to have a chat with Chribba about him verifying that both myself and E-UNI are on the up-and-up, as a couple of people seem to think the corp is some huge scam for some reason. That's a bit too tinfoil hat, even for me.  The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 18:57:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:BTW: For any of you complaining about the war decs being mutual. The issue is not of mutuality. But rather the inability of any sized corp to just war dec for ***** and giggles and then not bother to engage in said war. Psychological warfare is not even a consideration for you, eh? However it is you feel wars should be conducted, that's what the rules should revolve around, eh?
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:02:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:... deal with the issues the Uni has with corporations who declare war then don't even bother to log in. How is this an issue, again? If they don't log in, then you're not really it war are you? Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP.
You realize, that for any other corporation, if their "enemy" didn't log on, they'd actually just go about their normal business, thinking to themselves "Well, those dudes just wasted some ISK."
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
302
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:19:00 -
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Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
122
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:22:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP.
We dropped the vast majority of those rules almost five months ago. The WSOP currently restricts very little normal activity, even during "real" wars like our current one. But then you already know that. Director of Human Resources EVE University https://twitter.com//DarianReymont http://www.eveuniversity.org |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
302
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:23:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Kelduum Revaan wrote:... deal with the issues the Uni has with corporations who declare war then don't even bother to log in. How is this an issue, again? If they don't log in, then you're not really it war are you? Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP. You realize, that for any other corporation, if their "enemy" didn't log on, they'd actually just go about their normal business, thinking to themselves "Well, those dudes just wasted some ISK."
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dlu3ol <---- Poetics revealing twitter post.
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Just generally working to trash their rep. It's not a fast process, but I see a few more negative responses to them with each thread.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/782035-0/page/1#20 <-----thread from 2008 complaints
And then CEO/Founders reply...
Quote:Morning Maniac
Unfortunately we are an imperfect organisation being lead by imperfect individuals. I apologize for being the imperfect CEO of this organisation.
We are a corp with the goal to teach and help new players. Over the four years that we have been trying to do this we learned things that worked and things that did not.
Bottum line is that the EVE University is not a democracy. I hold 99.99% of the shares and you're pretty much stuck with what I do. In practice I delegate a lot of responsibility and trust to directors and other members and we do try to act in the best interest of most of the members. Still, we're not a democracy and we can't be with the high turnover we get. Think of it as a rl school or university, students can have a say but only to advise, not to decide.
I don't know why people look at us as we should be perfect while very few things in EVE are. If you have good ideas on how things should run. Start your own corp and make it work. No one forces you to join the uni or to stay once you're in. If you think our service is worthwhile but think the management is poor then what's keeping you from starting your own school corp? I wish you the best of luck with that and if you need advice or support just contact me ingame.
MM
BOLD/ITALICS/UNDERLINE mine...
2008 wants it's thread back...
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:25:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:BTW: For any of you complaining about the war decs being mutual. The issue is not of mutuality. But rather the inability of any sized corp to just war dec for ***** and giggles and then not bother to engage in said war. Psychological warfare is not even a consideration for you, eh? However it is you feel wars should be conducted, that's what the rules should revolve around, eh?
and how is that psych warfare? War decs are way too cheap.. and there's no reprecussions for not engaging in them.. main problem right there.. |

Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
766
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:29:00 -
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Darian Reymont wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Oh right, you're pretending that all those rules that force you to sit around in station, that those are actual game mechanics. You're trying to create rules to fix your WSOP. We dropped the vast majority of those rules almost five months ago. The WSOP currently restricts very little normal activity, even during "real" wars like our current one. But then you already know that. Actually, no I don't. I've been told they are just guidelines, and the word guideline is on the WSOP page three times, but most of the section headers start with firm commands such as You must not be ..., You must ..., etc. The word must is on the WSOP page 31 times. I find the message a tad confusing. Either players MUST follow the WSOP or they should just use it as a reasonable set of guidelines for their own safety (their own experience and skill dictating what they follow and what they don't.) The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:31:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:... there's no reprecussions for not engaging in them.. main problem right there.. If one wants to make a corporation like the Uni turtle up and shut down (due to its WSOP), if that was the reason for war, then mission accomplished. The war was a success. It's called turning the Uni rules upon themselves. It's a valid war tactic.
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Reppyk
The Black Shell
39
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:34:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Of course, I also checked this thread for any relevant questions (please do keep them coming, testobjekt) Questions to a CSM candidate :
1- When will you answer to all the issues in your SNA thread ? 2- All the feedbacks (but a few from some EVEuni pilots) are rather negative about your idea. Since wardecs (subject of the SNA thread) are supposed to be your "specialty" (with corp management, and maybe your "secret pvp alt that nobody knows"), do you think that you should become one of the very few pilots that CCP will ask when dealing with a new game mechanism ?
Thanks.
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:This would close the DecShield loophole, and likely deal with the issues the Uni has with corporations who declare war then don't even bother to log in. If they don't log in, where is the issue ? Oh, I know, the pop-up when you're getting some remote ? |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:39:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dlu3ol <---- Poetics revealing twitter post. Poetic Stanziel wrote:Just generally working to trash their rep. It's not a fast process, but I see a few more negative responses to them with each thread. Why do you guys keep posting this? LOL. It's not damaging. Read the entire thing. I use what Uni's say and do, and then go Fox News on the facts. Still facts. I just hyperbolize to make my message stronger. 
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:40:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:... there's no reprecussions for not engaging in them.. main problem right there.. If one wants to make a corporation like the Uni turtle up and shut down (due to its WSOP), if that was the reason for war, then mission accomplished. The war was a success. It's called turning the Uni rules upon themselves. It's a valid war tactic.
True.. but other then giggles.. what would attacking corp gain from being able to shut down a teaching group like the uni? other than bragging rights saying.. oooh.. look.. I held up a bunch of noobs..
Since most of the experienced players all have alts, and the uni has no reprecussions for people leaving to avoid the wars, once again there's no point in "psychological" warfare.
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:41:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dlu3ol <---- Poetics revealing twitter post. Poetic Stanziel wrote:Just generally working to trash their rep. It's not a fast process, but I see a few more negative responses to them with each thread. Why do you guys keep posting this? LOL. It's not damaging. Read the entire thing. I use what Uni's say and do, and then go Fox News on the facts. Still facts. I just hyperbolize to make my message stronger. 
Dude.. Fox news reports anything but the facts.. It's just as biased as CNN.
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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1479
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:43:00 -
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Quite a few people have asked where I stand on a few different things, so I went though http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ and put some responses together. If you want more info, or something I haven't covered, feel free to post below.
PvP Faction Warfare Like wardecs, IGÇÖm pleased to see this is getting some work. Its impossible to say what CCP plan to do with it, but adjustments to make it more friendly to GÇÿcasualGÇÖ or GÇÿentry-levelGÇÖ PVP would be a good move. There have been a few suggestions about reducing/removing/restricting the opposing faction loss from the structures, which may be a nice incentive.
Losec/Piracy Piracy needs targets, and said targets need a reason to go to losec other than people wanting them to so they get blown up. Increasing the rewards overall in losec (rats, missions, Incursions) would promote traffic, and fixing the bounty/kill rights systems would help also.
Nullsec At present nullsec does need a little work, specifically something to drive conflict and keep things moving, preventing space becoming stagnant - a few suggestions I agree with (in principal) are shifting resources, depleting moons, or sovereignty based simply on usage. Overall however, I feel the mechanics are okay and I donGÇÖt see any major problems with it other than the ongoing supercap proliferation, which is another problem altogether.
Wardecs The wardec systems clearly need a rewrite, both eliminate the existing loopholes in them as well as encourage PvP against groups who can/will fight. IGÇÖm pleased to hear that this is something which is being worked on by CCP.
Scamming Scamming is fine, and one of the things which makes EVE what it is. It would be nice to see mechanics which allow more interesting and involved scams, but these are always hard to GÇÿsupportGÇÖ while fixing UI problems.
Grief/Ganking Like scamming, griefing and ganking are things which makes EVE what it is. The recent changes to insurance for suicide ganking have balanced that pretty well, so I donGÇÖt see any need to change how those mechanics work at the moment. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University
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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1479
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:43:00 -
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PvE Missions EVE needs more mission content, that is quite clear. However, it also needs something to make the missions more interesting, for example dynamic missions with randomly generated locations, rats, objectives and Sleeper/Incursion AI. Similarly, something like player-generated missions could really help with adding new content, but would need player-friendly tools, and its not clear how the content team in CCP construct missions.
Incursions These are generally OK, but could likely use a little balancing at the moment. Things like adding more separate but shorter incursions and adding gates restricting ship types could help, as well as boosting rewards for losec/nullsec to improve the traffic there. I would also expect CCP to perform some kind of 'balancing' at some point which would limit the amount of time the mothership sticks around once it spawns.
Ratting Ratting needs some work, as its pretty much only very casual PVE. Going back some years, rats used to drop mission logs, which vaguely pointed to deadspace sites, so having exploration-style GÇÿescalationsGÇÖ drop from rats would be a good way to iterate on this, and make ratting useful for something other than raising sec status in losec and null.
Wormholes & Exploration Exploration has had a fair bit of work recently, but like most other things could use more varied content including more difficult sites, and boosting the rewards for normal exploration sites in losec, could help improve usage there. Wormholes in general are fine barring needing more content and corp/POS mechanic issues, but improving Sleeper AI could make sites more challenging.
Static Complexs & Cosmos Again, these could use some iteration, Cosmos especially as nothing has happened for far too long with it and the rewards are no longer worthwhile. For example, making Static Complexes act more like exploration sites (so they despawn/respawn once completed), however they should still be located in the same general area. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University
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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1479
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:43:00 -
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Mining/Industry Belt Mining The old suggestion that belts may be moved to require some level of exploration may be worth CCP revisiting as a way to balance mineral availability as well as a way of dealing with macro miners and bots, which is still an issue, and something I strongly expect CCP to continue fighting against.
Moon Mining CCP are apparently already moving in this direction, but to would make sense for moons in nullsec to have semi-limited resources. Something like GÇÿlayersGÇÖ of the moon which change over time, meaning that the most valuable moon resources are randomly redistributed based on heavy usage.
Planetary Interaction PI with the recent changes is pretty much OK, but more information is obviously needed as to how this will interact with DUST 514 and just what the results of the combat on the planet will/wonGÇÖt be.
Market There was an early version of a GÇÿCorp MarketGÇÖ shown on Singularity some time ago, and while it didnGÇÖt function, it would be nice to be able to tie standings and corp/alliance status into the market, allowing things like reduced prices for corp members, and GÇÿtrade sanctionsGÇÖ against hostile parties. While this could be bypassed with alts, it would add more depth to the market.
Contracts The recent rework of the contracts UI is a vast improvement, but there are rooms for further additions, such as the ability to check GÇÿclosed contractsGÇÖ to see how much an uncommon item was last sold for, as well as improving the auction mechanics to be more in-line with common online auction sites such as eBay. Similarly, high value and low volume items should be kept off the market and be limited to contracts, providing more opportunities for the seedier side of EVE.
Research and Production Clearly, the UI needs some massive work for production, and simple (from the users perspective) things the ability to GÇÿselect all and manufactureGÇÖ would be nice. However, a revamp of corp and POS mechanics in general would also be welcome, finally allowing public research/production to work as intended, and corporations to properly use each others services in an alliance while not opening up security issues. Similarly, NPC research should probably scale in cost based on usage the same way corporation offices do, or otherwise be completely removed once corporation public research is updated.
Other Corp Interface Its clear for anyone who has tried to use this that it requires a massive amount of reworking, from titles to hangars and wallet divisions. This would obviously be a major project, and touch on many areas of EVE, and proper and logical documentation would go some way toward making social groups at least appear somewhat safer.
Customisable UI Customizable UI stuff, I'm not certain on - it really depends just how much work would be involved for CCP vs the result, especially as it would generate more bug reports for UI things as everything has to work with English, German, Russian and Japanese now, plus improving the UI for everyone would probably be quicker and easier.
Anything else? Post here or go ask: http://www.formspring.me/kelduum Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:43:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:True.. but other then giggles.. what would attacking corp gain from being able to shut down a teaching group like the uni? Satisfaction. Who are you to say that they didn't get anything out of it?
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:52:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:Since most of the experienced players all have alts, and the uni has no reprecussions for people leaving to avoid the wars, once again there's no point in "psychological" warfare. Sure there are. Only 10-25% of people drop corp during wardecs. So you still have most of the Uni, in station, whining that wardecs are so boring and they suck. (Occasionally a fleet goes out to alleviate some boredom.) You also have the fact that of the people that drop corp, not all of them return. Case in point, when the Uni his 2000 members last year, they right afterwards, went through a period of being under wardec for three (maybe four) weeks straight. Once the dust had settled, they had 1500 members. Five hundred people never returned. That could be a valid goal of a wardec, screw with their recruitment, over work their personnel officers after the decs complete, just make people generally angry and whiney ... lower morale. All sorts of reasons to go to war beyond just pewpewing.
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