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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
729
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:29:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Come on. You're a smart, girl. You know that to be a FAKE argument that Kelduum puts forth to pretend that the University likes conflict and wants to 100% be part of the sandbox. That's why he came up with his wardec capture the flag system that favours a corp, like the Uni (how odd!), actually ending wars before they start. Because you know, they love conflict so much. And if you knew your Uni history - you would actually realize/know that this mechanic (dissolving the alliance/corp) was discussed (either around the time just before I left, or just after I left). It is not *fake* because it was considered. Discussed and considered are two different things. It was discussed. Kelduum allowed it to be discussed. It was never something he considered. It wasn't something most of the directors considered. Silentbrick, giving up his fake admiralcy? *laugh* Kelduum giving up the biggest pulpit in highsec? You know how many newbs view him as a demigod? Keld would never give that up. Or how about Irdalth? Where else would he get to practice writing really sh*tty code and terribad user interfaces? (Hmm, there might be a job for him on the CCP UI team. )
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Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
122
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:29:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Han Jagerbltizen, for instance, understands conflict in EVE. Kelduum does not.
Yes he does. 
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Of course Mittens would. He did it with Prometheus. He did it with Darius III. Why wouldn't he marginalize someone who always brought bad ideas to the table? If the bad idea guy suddenly starts supporting your position, people will start wondering if, maybe, that too is a bad idea.
Keld, like a lot of people, has a lot of good ideas and a few bad ones. To use your logic, why would Mittens marginalize someone who brought lots of good ideas the table on the basis that he also had some (debatable) bad ones? You've had some pretty bad ideas in your time, Poetic, so I suppose you advise us all to ignore you also? Director of Human Resources EVE University https://twitter.com//DarianReymont http://www.eveuniversity.org |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
729
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:33:00 -
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Darian Reymont wrote:Keld, like a lot of people, has a lot of good ideas and a few bad ones. To use your logic, why would Mittens marginalize someone who brought lots of good ideas the table on the basis that he also had some (debatable) bad ones? You've had some pretty bad ideas in your time, Poetic, so I suppose you advise us all to ignore you also? I'm not running for the CSM.
I'm still waiting for the good Kelduum ideas. The only campaign platform he's fleshed out has been War Declaration Mechanics, and his idea is one giant convoluted mess. And then he made some comment about ganking and -10 folks being unable to dock into ships in highsec ... that was dumb too.
I suppose he has some good ideas concerning the corp interface ... but other than Kelduum and a few other CEOs of large corporations/alliances, who the hell gives a sh*t about the corp interface?
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Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:36:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:EVE Uni was never in any danger of ever being dissolved. Actually E-UNI came close to reverting back to a chat channel/forum structure last year.
I was against it, and so am partially responsible for the research into other avenues that led to the return of the decshield.
Go on, hate me. I can take it.
(I can't really take it, please be nice. ) Director of Human Resources EVE University http://www.eveuniversity.org |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
183
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:38:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:I suppose he has some good ideas concerning the corp interface ... but other than Kelduum and a few other CEOs of large corporations/alliances, who the hell gives a sh*t about the corp interface?
Anybody who's ever dealt with the dam dinosaur? 
If corp interface is his *only* qualification - it would still be enough, because that *needs* iterating/fixing/changing. And if you knew 1/2 as much as you think you do, you would realize that the corp interface (and it's cludgy operation now) is of interest to most corps/alliances - Hell, besides POS mechanics, it's one of the gripes WH corps have with W/Space... More granularity is needed and the ability to set permissions differently.
But that's not important/relevant to you, so long as you can trash the Uni...
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testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
4
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:44:00 -
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As I said earlier, Kelduums plattform is only "i'm a cool dude"+"i'm EvE-U ceo, i have lots of members that will vote for me no matter what" +"i want good stuff"+"i'm highsec"
if thats the candidate you want sure, vote for him.
He wants the CSM tag at his name to further the recruitment of EVE-U.
If he says EVE-U is a 100% legit organisation i challenge him to publish a full corp api key to proof this! if he does not comply we know he has something to hide and the "university" is not legit!
But if you consider the structure of Highsec, with lots of small/medium corps, you dont want to vote for him. He will support fixes for big corp issues (because that are the issues he notices everyday) and will be in favor of stuff that benefits HIS playstyle.
Is he the anti Mittani guy? hell no. He probably will either be marginalized by the 0.0 candidates, or they will use him for stuff they want to (corp/alliance interface).
Vote for people like Issler Dainze (industrialists) Hans Jagerblitze/ Alkseyev Karrde. This are people who UNDERSTAND your issues far better then Kelduum probably ever will. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:51:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:The other point the Circle of Seven are missing (The Mittani, Two Step, Selene, and other 0.0 candidates), is that Kelduum getting on the CSM will simply increase the ability of EVE University to recruit, which makes his position much stronger for CSM8. The more they coddle and support his run, the more in danger they put their positions for future CSMs.
Why would this be in anyway indifferent from any other CSM? Are you also confirming that the present CSMs therefore at present achieve a certain amount of meta-influence due to their positions? (Rhetorical, I dont put stock in your "straw man" claims).
I have another theory, perhaps they actually consider to some extent that Kelduum might be a useful candidate to have and wont pander to your obvious attempts at insighting derision amongst the candidates where it isn't an issue? But then I suppose inciting candidate hostilities would be entertaining for you. Nothing to do with voters or ideas at all. 
To be honest considering the unique stance and presence of the EvE Uni, how it has established itself to be the recognised new player corporation of choice and recommended by people in the recruitment channel and elsehwere as an habitual choice for such purposes I think gives some testimony and credibility to what Kelduum has acheived in EvE. And as such I doubt it needs much more advertising or accreditation to improve recruitment.
If you think the false rantings of a dissaffected player who was ejected from EvE Uni due to conflicting interests and now has an unhealthy fanatacism to troll his thread purely as a smear campaign can upset all of that effort you really are delluded. If anything your substantiating the reasons why a person like yourself was formally removed from their organisation, and for good reasons it seems.
They say you measure a tree by its fruits, I see EvE Uni to be a pretty big orchard. Though unfotunatley it seems to have produced one big nut in the process. But then again I suppose it could be seen as a lesson of not be able to cater for the "special" needs of every individual. However, given how you portray yourself, I don't think they are seeing it too much as a missed opportunity.
If they where inclined to some humour they might present you with an honorary degree in "Awoxer" studies however. |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
194
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:58:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:He wants the CSM tag at his name to further the recruitment of EVE-U.
If he says EVE-U is a 100% legit organisation i challenge him to publish a full corp api key to proof this! if he does not comply we know he has something to hide and the "university" is not legit! A) Furthering the recruitment for E-U is not a bad thing. B) Corp API? Are you stoned?
What do you mean "not legit"?
You need to put down the Poetic Stanziel Kool-Aid cup and come back when your sober!
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Twisted Trucker
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.02.11 19:59:00 -
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testobjekt wrote: Vote for people like Issler Dainze (industrialists) Hans Jagerblitze/ Alkseyev Karrde. This are people who UNDERSTAND your issues far better then Kelduum probably ever will.
I'm gonna vote for Kelduum, just to pi$$ you off, YOU MAD BRO?
And he did say he would provide his API to a neutral third party for verification that he doesn't "benefit" from the Uni, what part of that did you not understand?
As for "publishing" the FULL Corp key, are YOUR candidates willing to do the same? Uhmm, yeah, thought not!
NEXT! |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:00:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:If he says EVE-U is a 100% legit organisation i challenge him to publish a full corp api key to proof this! if he does not comply we know he has something to hide and the "university" is not legit!
Looks like someone else is after an honorary degree in "Awoxer" studies.
Quote: But if you consider the structure of Highsec, with lots of small/medium corps, you dont want to vote for him. He will support fixes for big corp issues (because that are the issues he notices everyday) and will be in favor of stuff that benefits HIS playstyle.
Is he the anti Mittani guy? hell no. He probably will either be marginalized by the 0.0 candidates, or they will use him for stuff they want to (corp/alliance interface).
More Straw. I think EvE Uni should start a basket weeving course with all the free materials.
Maybe a alternative bio-fuel source from all the supplied BS?
I hope the lecturers are marking these works of fiction, I'd give high marks for imagination and creativity. |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
202
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:08:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Discussed and considered are two different things. It was discussed. Kelduum allowed it to be discussed. It was never something he considered. It wasn't something most of the directors considered. Silentbrick, giving up his fake admiralcy? *laugh* Kelduum giving up the biggest pulpit in highsec? You know how many newbs view him as a demigod? Keld would never give that up. Or how about Irdalth? Where else would he get to practice writing really sh*tty code and terribad user interfaces? (Hmm, there might be a job for him on the CCP UI team.  ) They were just letting Darian vent. Because he's a good guy. EVE Uni was never in any danger of ever being dissolved. You dip****! Keld was head diplo back then, It was Dee Carson and the person before him (forgive me, I've forgotten). Kelduum didn't *allow* anything!
Jesus, he's only been CEO for two years! ADD IT UP (@*(#$(*&@!
As for SB being "afk/afg" - so what? Again, who the **** are you to tell people how to run their show?
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
729
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:12:00 -
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[quote=Darian Reymont]Actually E-UNI came close to reverting back to a chat channel/forum structure last year.Quote:
[quote=Asuri Kinnes]You dip****! Keld was head diplo back then, It was Dee Carson and the person before him (forgive me, I've forgotten). Kelduum didn't *allow* anything!
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:20:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:
And you did not adress the 2nd part of my question
If you read Kelds post.. You'd notice that it's just an IDEA. He says he doesn't know what should be done, but he would like something added to put some power in the defending corp. His structure thing is just that an idea. But whether it's good or bad, it doesn't matter, because the purpose of an idea is to promote discussion and create other ideas amongst the CSM and CCP to look into this aspect. There have been plenty of other BAD ideas by good CSM. (look at the removal of ABC ores from WHs and the reasoning that the CSM had for wanting to do that)
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
203
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:27:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:[quote=Darian Reymont]Actually E-UNI came close to reverting back to a chat channel/forum structure last year. Quote:
[quote=Asuri Kinnes]You dip****! Keld was head diplo back then, It was Dee Carson and the person before him (forgive me, I've forgotten). Kelduum didn't *allow* anything!
We're talking about two different events, apparently, Asuri. Fair enough.

The time I'm thinking of was fall of 2008, maybe early winter.
(see, I can be reasonable!)

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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:28:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote: Anti E-Uni and Keld Rant.
OMG dude.. You have made me see the light. I now understand how evil and self serving Kelduum and the university is.
In fact. I just heard from some internal CCP sources. (sorry have to keep it confidential) that Keld's actually a PAID CCP member, and the E-Uni was actually a CCP idea and they're secretly funding it. The reasoning behind it was that they were desperate to be able to keep cuddling new players who got bored of the game because they were picked on by the gods of players who are just too damn good to go fight amongst themselves and instead needed the challenge of picking on new players and griefing them. As you can understand this was causing CCP to loose revenue so they came up with the E-UNI idea to suck noobs in.
Thank you for making me see the light.
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
203
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:45:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:able to keep cuddling new players who got bored of the game because they were picked on by the gods of players who are just too damn good to go fight amongst themselves and instead needed the challenge of picking on new players and griefing them. You had me until right there...
/sigh....
Greifing is not allowed, and CCP doesn't define Griefing the same way other companies do. CCP *will* ban players for griefing - and has...
But dammit, get it out of your head that War = Griefing! It doesn't.
(besides, blowing **** up is fun...)
  
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:34:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:able to keep cuddling new players who got bored of the game because they were picked on by the gods of players who are just too damn good to go fight amongst themselves and instead needed the challenge of picking on new players and griefing them. You had me until right there... /sigh.... Greifing is not allowed, and CCP doesn't define Griefing the same way other companies do. CCP *will* ban players for griefing - and has... But dammit, get it out of your head that War = Griefing! It doesn't. (besides,  blowing **** up is fun...)   
It's just legaleese.. Take can flipping. It's not allowed in a newbie system.. but 1 system over.. (where a new player will be going for sure) it's completely legitimate and allowed. personally.. as a new player I have no clue what 1 system is compared to the other really.. so to be can flipped but a character that's at least 1 year older then my toon.. I call that just as much griefing as if it was done in the starter system. |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
205
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:46:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote: It's just legaleese.. Take can flipping. It's not allowed in a newbie system.. but 1 system over.. (where a new player will be going for sure) it's completely legitimate and allowed. personally.. as a new player I have no clue what 1 system is compared to the other really.. so to be can flipped but a character that's at least 1 year older then my toon.. I call that just as much griefing as if it was done in the starter system.
=\
hmmm, you know, I really hadn't considered it.
God knows how much I didn't know when I started would have filled the (imaginary) documentation that CCP provides....
If I recall, I lost my first cruiser (destroyer?) to a can-flip the day I joined Uni - one of the Unista's said something in Corp chat, I had (literally) just gotten in system from (it seemed) far away (9 jumps?), and warped to the belt he said he was in. Instantly attacked the other guy, got concorded pretty much instantly... (may not have been can-flipped, can't remember, but concord was for sure involved...)

I'm all like "wtf!?" - didn't make sense to me that someone could do (whatever it was) and not be ripe for me to attack too, so I *get* not getting the mechanics.
I do get it...
But CCP has to structure the mechanics to be the best for all playtypes, (hopefully without going too far one way or another).
vOv I don't have an answer, I just don't want Hi-Sec to = "SAFE" w/o recourse...
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Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
84
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Posted - 2012.02.11 23:50:00 -
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Kelduum is the worst candidate I have seen so far that has a chance of winning. Even for most of the High Sec anti PvP crowd he's terrible. Read his Wardec proposal in Features and Ideas if you doubt me. His idea creates a system where very large entities like EVE Uni effectively become immune to most wardecs, but all you smaller corps get nothing.. unless of course you give up your independence and join the likes of EVE Uni. don't vote for this guy. |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.02.12 01:24:00 -
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Xorv wrote:Kelduum is the worst candidate I have seen so far that has a chance of winning. Even for most of the High Sec anti PvP crowd he's terrible. Read his Wardec proposal in Features and Ideas if you doubt me. His idea creates a system where very large entities like EVE Uni effectively become immune to most wardecs, but all you smaller corps get nothing.. unless of course you give up your independence and join the likes of EVE Uni. don't vote for this guy.
Care to elaborate on WHERE his comments mean that only BIG corps would benefit from not being faildecced?
Unless of course, you mean the small corps that are intent on picking on big corps filled with new players to pad their kill stats. But even then. If you look at E-Uni's campaigns. (provided you bother to do research before just spouting off). There were many smaller corps that managed to school the uni quite well. And it wasn't until the students progressed and learned did the tide of the war change in the Uni's favour. But of course, THOSE smaller corps did actually fight, and it wasn't corps that just pick on missioners to pad their killstats then when a fleet shows up they run away and dock up.
Now here's a little saying my mom taught me.
IF YOU CAN"T SAY ANYTHING NICE.. THEN STFU!!!
This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM.. THIS is NOT the thread where you go and attack the guys points of view because they differ from yours. Who you vote for is your own business. However, just because you do not agree with the guys views, does not mean that you're entitled to trash the guy. |

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
84
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Posted - 2012.02.12 03:21:00 -
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Sorry you don't dictate what people can and cannot post on the forums. Can't say I blame your mother, I'm sure she told you to "STFU" quite often.
Anyway, people can judge for themselves, being informed about candidates is important. Here's Kelduum's Wardec proposal: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67445 . If you think that's a great idea, then by all means vote for him. |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
731
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Posted - 2012.02.12 03:26:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:Unless of course, you mean the small corps that are intent on picking on big corps filled with new players to pad their kill stats. Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older. Are they incapable of defending themselves from a small corp?
Do you know how ridiculous you sound? A small corp picking on a big corp? Jesus. Poor poor big corp, being picked on by a corp of 10 people. Get together all those carebear incursion runners who can afford l33t PvP ships to go bash down the small corp. Instead, they cry? WTF! Seriously. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
731
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Posted - 2012.02.12 03:29:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM. Really? Where is he? He's just sitting back hoping the membership of his very large corp coasts him into a seat. He knows most people outside of the Uni (current and ex-) think his ideas are ridiculous. I expect he won't have much to say from this point forward. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |

Jean Leaner
Kickass inc Nulli Tertius
44
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Posted - 2012.02.12 05:58:00 -
[234] - Quote
Jesus christ poetic, I don't like E-Uni either, but half the crap you're posting is just :tinfoil: |

Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1456
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Posted - 2012.02.12 09:59:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:This is a thread for Kelduum to pitch his salespitch for running to CSM. Really? Where is he? If you must know, yesterday I spent a little time rolling around losec with my PvP alt (no, I'm not saying who, so feel free to claim I'm lying, Poetic) did some Uni related paperwork, handing out titles and so on, had a nice chat with an 8+ year player about my background and the CSM, and helped a new player through the EVE tutorials, explaining the concepts as we went - she was quite excited when she lost her first ship.
Of course, I also checked this thread for any relevant questions (please do keep them coming, testobjekt), and this evening I intend to have a chat with Chribba about him verifying that both myself and E-UNI are on the up-and-up, as a couple of people seem to think the corp is some huge scam for some reason.
Time permitting, I may repost some of my responses to questions from the Uni members and my Formspring account (some good questions there) as well as detail my ideas for producing new and more varied mission content. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
340
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:08:00 -
[236] - Quote
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
217
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Posted - 2012.02.12 14:02:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:Unless of course, you mean the small corps that are intent on picking on big corps filled with new players to pad their kill stats. Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older. Are they incapable of defending themselves from a small corp? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? A small corp picking on a big corp? Jesus. Poor poor big corp, being picked on by a corp of 10 people. Get together all those carebear incursion runners who can afford l33t PvE ships to go bash down the small corp with some l33t PvP ships. Instead, they cry? WTF! Seriously. And how many of those "old" (LOL) players are active every day? I bet it's only a few at any time. Mostly (from my time in the Uni) you were flying with people your own "age". Not because anyone was "leet" but because that's where the conversations took place that (whatever age you were) were taking place.
At 6 months into the game, I didn't know squat about leading fleets - even though I had taken 5 groups out at differrent times. Remember, The Uni allows (encourages) people to lead fleets - all you have to do is write an AAR when over detailing anything learned.
Usually it's lessons on squad control, FC target calling, neutral alts getting involved, **** like that. Just because XYZ player picks up on the details of pvp in Eve in a couple weeks, doesn't mean *everyone* does.
You cannot judge others by your own rate of learning - which you also seem to have a bit of a problem realizing....
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Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
83
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Posted - 2012.02.12 14:40:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older. Oh cool, it's this again.
Wasn't your original claim that the majority of students were over a year old? What happened to the proof you said you had about that and why the revised number? Because it sounds more plausible? Director of Human Resources EVE University http://www.eveuniversity.org |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:09:00 -
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Xorv wrote:Sorry you don't dictate what people can and cannot post on the forums. Can't say I blame your mother, I'm sure she told you to "STFU" quite often. Anyway, people can judge for themselves, being informed about candidates is important. Here's Kelduum's Wardec proposal: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67445 . If you think that's a great idea, then by all means vote for him.
I agree.. People can make their own decisions on who to vote for. So they don't need the crap that Poetic and some of the other people are posting on here. Simple as that. I am not saying everyone has to vote for Kelduum.. All I'm saying is to leave the crap out. |

Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:13:00 -
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Darian Reymont wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older. Oh cool, it's this again. Wasn't your original claim that the majority of students were over a year old? What happened to the proof you said you had about that and why the revised number? Because it sounds more plausible?
Give it another couple of months then he'll be complaining about the l33t 3-4month players in the uni.. :P
The thought, that some people actually have lives, and being in a corp or in the game for 6 months, doesn't mean anything since I could only be logging in once a week to update skills, or even play on the weekends, (2 days a week x 26 = 52 days of play time) which would hardly make me anything but a noob really.. That's hard to fathom for some people you know..
I did realize something though.. The reason poetic and some of his cronies have a hard time with the E-uni is simple. Just like cheaters are usually the ones that are most insecure about their partners, so do self serving people. Since they can't fathom why someone else would be helping a stranger if something wasn't in it for themselves. So they see every altruistic act as something of a front to benefit from. The whole concept of a good deed for a good deed sake is sadly lost on them. (and in general, today's society. )
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