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Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 22:57:00 - [481] Hm...A Fan club still very active i see me, myself and I ------>
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:05:00 - [482] Originally by: Darcuese Hm...A Fan club still very active i see Mittens is very close to Presidio status, not there yet but nearly! I need to sort a new signature
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:09:00 - [483] so what kind of fans are you talking about its pretty cold here in alaska and i could use some heating or possibly ventilation certainly not any air conditioning thank you
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:10:00 - [484] So to get the full 'experience', the full glory of fighting the rest of Eve alone, which you claim you are aiming for, you will need to throw Axe by the wayside at some point and whatever small rodents you still have flying with you. Curious when you want to do that - not much time left there. Lol for Axe if they really are going to be your lapdoggies until the end.
pershphanie Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:16:00 - [485] Originally by: Drasked Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Drasked I think the common misconception in this thread is the difference between "losing space" and "losing" dude.. didnt you get the memo? bob is waaaay dead. Ok, so that is what you call "your members being more exited and active as ever before and people that quit comming back for action" No. If the goonies say they're dead it must be true. There's no other explination.
Vahl Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:20:00 - [486] I'm going to assume that since this was a master genius plan that all the poor renters and hangers on who you gladly accepted billions in rent from were let in on it. Surely they were informed that your intent all along was to let their alliances go down in flames without lifting a finger to help them because it would mean "epic fights" for you later on. They were just paying that rent and losing their assetts for you because you are chill brosefs and they wanted you to get the most fun possible out of the game at their expense. _________________________________________________________ ==REDSWARM FEDERATION== ...because we hate your f**king guts.
Cirillo	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:48:00 - [487] all this post can be resumed in 1 word: Patethic
Brobuck GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:02:00 - [488] I was trying to fly a stabber into period basis and blow up some ships. I got doomsdayed. Its still just a detail within a successful plan.
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:07:00 - [489] When your plan is to have fun, you always win!!! Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:13:00 - [490] If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere) Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve? BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Charleton Heston Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:15:00 - [491] Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere) Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve? BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB. I don't think you understand the difference between "wanting a challenge", and "planning to lose everything you own". You may have been looking for a challenge, but to claim you're in this situation because you wanted it is simply too hilarious.
Brobuck GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:16:00 - [492] Originally by: Sergeant Spot BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB. Well, if losing was your goal, then you have indeed had much success.
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:18:00 - [493] Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere) Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve? BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB. keep digging
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:20:00 - [494] What a unique position that you play a competitive game and seek a challenge. Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
Peen Long Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:23:00 - [495] Originally by: Gallente Caliente Originally by: Sergeant Spot Um, if our objective is fun epic pew pew in a space game, and we are in fact GETTING fun epic pew pew in a space game, then yes, we are "winning". You begin to understand..... Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere) Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve? BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB. So what you are saying is that you enjoy losing. Because oddly enough RSF has been "GETTING fun epic pew pew" as well, and they've been doing it by beating down BoB AND it's allies. You see, in epic fun pew pew's somebody still has to lose all their ISK investments. And that's pretty much the GBC. So technically doesn't that mean RSF and allies are winning twice, because they get to win with their strategy AND yours? You basically just repeated yourself without replying to a perfectly good post after yours. Let's try again.
K'reemy G'udness The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:26:00 - [496] Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. I bothered to look, and here's what I found: "Nice region, we'll take it." If your master plan was to have hostiles in your home region, then why did you surround yourself with pets for so long? Just saying. ---
Dog Solitude Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:41:00 - [497] I've never seen goons this worked up and upset. I gotta be honest....it creeps me out. Please bring back the happy-go-lucky goonies we know and love. tia
Peen Long Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:50:00 - [498] Originally by: Dog Solitude I've never seen goons this worked up and upset. I gotta be honest....it creeps me out. Please bring back the happy-go-lucky goonies we know and love. tia Please link the upset posts, I'm just seein' lols.
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:54:00 - [499] Hi, I'm back, and I'd just like to once again express exactly how BoB is spinning this. There was a plan. The plan was, 'get all of eve to attack us'. The plan was not, and still isn't, 'fall back to Delve'. The possibility of falling back to Delve was addressed, but it was not your plan. Your plan's execution was very simple: act aggessive and such. Basically, be BoB. You entered this war not knowing if you were going or lose. You wanted to win, and tried your hardest. Your hardest wasn't good enough. You're going to lose. Your arrogance is not part of a plan; you act arrogant because you are arrogant pr1cks. We are going to win, and you are going to lose, despite your best efforts. It doesn't matter whether you orchestrated the start of this war or not, because again, despite your best efforts, you're going to lose it. Your spin that being pushed back to Delve is part of your 'plan' is both ridiculous and hilarious. Again, it was recognized as a possibility. It was not what you wanted to happen. You, like every other organization of your type, wanted to win. So, basically: We win. You lose. You suck at spin. Fck you. Originally by:* Securion Wolfheart EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB.
Kian Jorry Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:55:00 - [500] Originally by: SirMolle I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us. Quoted for truth. There will be nothing epic in what will break you.
Bone Collector44 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:57:00 - [501] TBH, the only thing that the average BoB grunt (ie: me) has ever cared about is PVP. I dont honestly believe that our leaders planned on losing all of our space, but I think I speak for most of the grunts in saying if I had known "losing" would be this much fun I wish we would have lost ages ago.
Bone Collector44 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:59:00 - [502] Originally by: Kian Jorry Originally by: SirMolle I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us. Quoted for truth. There will be nothing epic in what will break you. I can assure you that PL's role in what will "break us" is too miniscule to measure, but keep fighting (running from?) the good fight.
Nez Perces Amarr Metatron Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:08:00 - [503] Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/01/2008 01:12:04 Well ... interesting thread. It certainly seems that BoB are going to stick with their PR spin and remain adamant that this had been planned all along. "Epic fights are what make BoB, we live for the endgame in EVE and the final ganbang in Delve is that endgame they have been planning for years... yadda yadda yadda...." Assuming that all this is not just a load of hogwash.. what can RSF and Co. realistically do about it, and I mean about depriving BoB of what they claim to seek? I can't help but cast my mind back to the Goonswarm STANDING ORDERS: DELVE CAMPAIGN MEGATRHEAD.... Originally by: The Mittani Overall Strategy: Slow, grinding misery. BoB want an Alamo and martyrdom with big flashy battles, and instead we're going to block them into Delve and grief them like we've never griefed before. I want goons to dig deep and find ways of being as cruel as possible, to utterly ruin the game experience for any BoB-aligned pilot. The question is not 'is this fun pew pew', the question is 'is what I am doing making our hated enemies suffer on as many levels as possible whenever they log in'. Can RSF and Co. actually pull this off?... and I mean the actual act of turning the events that transpire in Delve into a completely miserable experience for BoB? Cause really, to defeat BoB completely you have to rob them of any satisfaction they can gain from the game and rubbish the illusion that losing their final region will be fun. Will it be fun or won't it?... maybe thats the question and the surefire way of measuring that will be BoB membership as the final act of the war progresses. [edit:clarity]
Peen Long Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:10:00 - [504] Originally by: Bone Collector44 TBH, the only thing that the average BoB grunt (ie: me) has ever cared about is losing at PVP. I dont honestly believe that our leaders planned on losing all of our space was the real plan all along, but I think I speak for most of the grunts in saying if I had known "losing" tons of isk as an alliance would be this much fun I wish we would have gotten raped ages ago. Fixed. Or maybe I should say clarified based on BoB's latest official stance.
Frygok Minmatar Malicious Intentions The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:12:00 - [505] Erh right, I think I'm going to skip all the bickering part of this thread. Just out of curiosity, if any BoB person want to answer it: What surprised you most in all of this? The quick demise of ASCN? The fall of D2? The monumental comback of RA-AAA? Goons becoming so huge? MC going solo? Alot of things have happened in EVE since this plan was made (I'm not saying I believe it entirely), which ones have taken you guys by surprise, be it good or bad?
Nlewis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:15:00 - [506] I expected BoB to make excuses but theres definitely a better way you could have gone with this
Local Her0 Minmatar La Mancha Corp	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:21:00 - [507] Edited by: Local Her0 on 04/01/2008 01:23:10 Originally by: Dafuzz Originally by: Mr Rive Oh yeah, and i agree with you, but this is not the public image that boB has been putting out until now, before, it was all about WORLD DOMINATION and all that, so to try and exuse yourself now by saying that we only wanted the space to lose it in a glorius way isnt going to wash with many people, including me. The public image got everyone to circle the wagons around delve, didn't they? It really doesn't matter what washes with whom, everyone appears happy at our apparent "demise" including us. That is the crux of the matter, high-end content delivered in the most unpalatable way, being shoved down the throats of those that "hate" us, causes epic battles. Said it before, will say again. BoB hasn't defended before. It is something new. It sucks choosing a region somewhere, invading, hoping that people will fight us. Instead we sit for hours/days whilst people bore us as we take their space. THEN, we fall back, (with a creative evac picture posted by a goon that made our point better than we could with our video even) created a vacuum, and let the real pubbies come and have the regions gratis without us defending, giving away stepping stones to our doorstep. NEXT, we plant a trail of breadcrumbs a mile wide all leading to Delve, so those who simply don't appear to get it will come too. End result? Fights. Defense. Maybe. Hopefully. Futhermore, wow, just wow thats the most pathetic crap i've ever heard from a bobit. is this your so called honor? this? lmao u guys lost a titan and all went downhill.
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:26:00 - [508] You know, "rolling with the punches" isn't much of an alliance-level strategy, and even if it was, "look at all those suckers punching us, this is all going according to plan" isn't a very convincing argument for it. Though I can see how this fits with the vaguely masochistic "you're not taking our space fast enough" trash talk. Originally by: Sergeant Spot Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? ...if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:27:00 - [509] Originally by: Frygok Erh right, I think I'm going to skip all the bickering part of this thread. Just out of curiosity, if any BoB person want to answer it: What surprised you most in all of this? The quick demise of ASCN? The fall of D2? The monumental comback of RA-AAA? Goons becoming so huge? MC going solo? Alot of things have happened in EVE since this plan was made (I'm not saying I believe it entirely), which ones have taken you guys by surprise, be it good or bad? I'd say it was the quick demise of D2. One thing that ofc is getting lost is that the plan was never to lose regions. That was never factored in. The plan was to test ourselves to the limit. Am I the only one who remembered how stale the game felt after we finshed of ASCN? Or am I the only one who rememberes the daily 'BOB are going to kill Eve' threads? It's kind of damned if we do, damned if we dont senarios. We could have gone straight after RA/goon/TFC instead of ASCN, napped LV and ASCN. Where is the fun in that?
Muesli Monster Minmatar EvE Corporation 23846	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:33:00 - [510] Since noone have said it earlier. If you BoB guys want EPIC stuff, why dont you start play WOW over it?

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