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Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:35:00 - [511] Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Darkrydar We could have gone straight after RA/goon/TFC instead of ASCN, napped LV and ASCN. Where is the fun in that? You done that when you was LV. Me personally? or You as in BOB? Because I was never in LV. BOB fought with LV when LV was already all but done for.
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:36:00 - [512] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:37:51 Anyone eve read spike milligans books on world war 2 where the German leader was screaming at someone and he said "EVERYONE KNOWS WE WONT LOSE THE WAR!! WE WILL COME SECOND!" Since I cant be bothered clawing my way through the desperate BOB spinning ion this thread, and I cant be assed registering there, I'll just post in response tot he use of He-who-shall-not-be-named's blog on SHC. They dug this up to "prove" that there was a plan to suck all of eve into delve for "epic fights". The first ironic thing is that the blog in question was entitled "Bob is afraid of AAA + Goons + RA + D2" Problem is from reading said blog (thich no doubt the desperate bob people hoped noone would) the rest of it does not really look like people who are thirsting for a fight. The blog deals with a plan to go up to d2 and fact them in glorious one on one combat to kill their titan in construction... and bring up MC, FIX and LV with them. Typical BOB basically. However the plan was suggested by Chowdown, then leader of LV. However At the 25th of November they were discussing how LV were not going to help them with it and they got all "we are tough, but" They ignored the fact that LV were busy with Goons and couldn't pry themselves loose as official bob policy still is that the goons and RA are not a threat Some quotes. Quote: After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bull** at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve" Quote: Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral). Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely ** all we could do about it for days. Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact." Let me spell it out for the slow. BOB did not go after d2s titan BECAUSE doing so would risk everyone in eve coming and attacking Delve. The war that they now claim they really wanted was the reason that they held off. And they blamed LV for it. And remember this is from the Blog that they are now using as evidence for their great plan. They did not want that epic fight in delve then and they sure as hell don't want it now. Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to Delve where you can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. They don't want a challenge, a "sticky situation" they want to win at all costs. They say they do here but in game its massive blobs of caps or nothing. There was no plan. And they have lost. All they can do now is admit it, and spin it. BOB for silver medal position. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Hrin Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 - [513] Originally by: Avon Long and worthless So many lies and revisionist history. Mmmmmm your tears are delicious
Peen Long DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 - [514] Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Peen Long Originally by: Bone Collector44 TBH, the only thing that the average BoB grunt (ie: me) has ever cared about is losing at PVP. I dont honestly believe that our leaders planned on losing all of our space was the real plan all along, but I think I speak for most of the grunts in saying if I had known "losing" tons of isk as an alliance would be this much fun I wish we would have gotten raped ages ago. Fixed. Or maybe I should say clarified based on BoB's latest official stance. Thats about the worst 'fix' job I've seen. Posters like you are no different than the so called bandwagoneers that joined bob when we were on top and posted crap on the forums. You're cut from the same cloth. I'm sure in your whole 5.5 months in goon you've learned everything about BOB though. Hell your participation versus us is damn near legendary. Peen Long vs BOB Hahahahah I'm an industry alt. In this day of a huge amount of players having multiple accounts, I love how you think who says it matters as opposed to the actual content of the post. This is who I'm logged in as. Doesn't really change anything though does it? It's still true.
Nez Perces Amarr Metatron Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 - [515] Originally by: Peen Long I'd like to answer this with a role play..... That was pretty LOL.... however, without wanting to ruin you're little scenario.... what happens if BoB have amassed sufficient funds and materials to keep fighting for a long long time? Evol for example runs via communism... and im guessing they are pretty loaded. Infact I wouldn't be surprised if BoB membership is in general very well off, able to lose a lot of well fitted ships practically indefinitely..... and if you look at their K:D ratio (which I know you don't give a lot of credence to) they don't lose that many ships compared to those who fight them. Hmmm.. ISK.. or the lack of it..... nah.. BoB won't run out of ISK any time soon. That won't be the reason for the fun running out.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 - [516] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve.
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:38:00 - [517] Originally by: Avon blah, blah, I'm not quoting all that Frankly, Avon, I'm not 'getting' that third step because that step makes no sense. You are a pvp organization. pvp organizations want to win. You wanted epic fights, but you wanted to win them. (Not to mention all the inconsistencies in your play style that fit with 'we want epic fights' but not 'we want to intentionally lose') It doesn't matter that that was step 3 because unless your entire alliance is a logical fallacy, step 3 was not your preferred outcome. Try again. Originally by: Securion Wolfheart EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:38:00 - [518] Originally by: Peen Long stuff Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts?
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:39:00 - [519] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:42:28 Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:41:01 Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve. I'm sorry. I don't talk to Peons. Someone wanting to actually dispute my Logic and research, rather than taking one small chunk out and throw a random insult in schoolyard fashion, is welcome. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:40:00 - [520] Originally by: Hrin So many lies and revisionist history. Wow, you mean there is not only such a thing as objective truth, but that you actually have access to it? :worship: Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:40:00 - [521] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve. I'm sorry. I don't talk to Peons. so u only talk to ceo's? gl with that.
Hrin Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:41:00 - [522] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Peen Long I'd like to answer this with a role play..... That was pretty LOL.... however, without wanting to ruin you're little scenario.... what happens if BoB have amassed sufficient funds and materials to keep fighting for a long long time? Evol for example runs via communism... and im guessing they are pretty loaded. Infact I wouldn't be surprised if BoB membership is in general very well off, able to lose a lot of well fitted ships practically indefinitely..... and if you look at their K:D ratio (which I know you don't give a lot of credence to) they don't lose that many ships compared to those who fight them. Hmmm.. ISK.. or the lack of it..... nah.. BoB won't run out of ISK any time soon. That won't be the reason for the fun running out. Ahahahah, this myth still perpetuates. BoB does not have infinite pockets. They are struggling as it is, perhaps not the top, but the general membership is having a difficult time.
Local Her0 Minmatar La Mancha Corp	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:41:00 - [523] Silentium minions! Listen to the Pendulum. Tick Tock Tick Tock Tickc*cc***** Damn the Pendulum is broken. No worries its part of the plan. -dbp-
Peen Long DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:43:00 - [524] Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Peen Long stuff Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts? Dorkstar1? That's what you came up with?
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:44:00 - [525] Originally by: Peen Long Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Peen Long stuff Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts? Dorkstar1? That's what you came up with? nah, its what you've been called since you were the shining light of success in ascn.
Muesli Monster Minmatar EvE Corporation 23846	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:45:00 - [526] Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve. Like you have any clues? Being wrong on youre earlier corp membership on 2 accounts in this thread... Talk about clueless, yet, you still reply with nothing that will contribute at all, Thanks!
Peen Long DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:46:00 - [527] Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Peen Long Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Peen Long stuff Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts? Dorkstar1? That's what you came up with? nah, its what you've been called since you were the shining light of success in ascn. Odd, I've personally never been in ASCN and neither has any of my other characters. You gonna refute anything? Who needs drugs when the drama gets this good.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:46:00 - [528] Originally by: snerdly You are a pvp organization. pvp organizations want to win. You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear. PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun. To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics. Winning a fight mitigates your costs, it doesn't increase the excitement of the actual fight. There is no "win Eve" ultimately anyway. You win by having fun. If you can only have fun by winning, then you have already lost. I think you are missing the whole "IT IS A GAME" thing, to get meta. It is a form of entertainment. I don't think you get games. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Nez Perces Amarr Metatron Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:47:00 - [529] Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/01/2008 01:55:35 Originally by: Nez Perces Can't be asked to look through the myriad of killboards... but just out of curiousity, have they stopped fighting you with fully fitted techII BS's and Capital ships yet? Gonna answer my own question here.... I looked up a SMASH Raven killed yesterday by BoB..... a good percentage of the BoB pilots were using faction ammo.. and practically all of them were flying techII ships. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that your average BoB pilot hasn't run out of isk yet......
Peen Long DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:48:00 - [530] Originally by: Avon Originally by: snerdly You are a pvp organization. pvp organizations want to win. You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear. PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun. To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics. Winning a fight mitigates your costs, it doesn't increase the excitement of the actual fight. There is no "win Eve" ultimately anyway. You win by having fun. If you can only have fun by winning, then you have already lost. I think you are missing the whole "IT IS A GAME" thing, to get meta. It is a form of entertainment. I don't think you get games. And what about when you run out of isk and you are losing 90% of the time? Still fun? Are you seriously believing yourself?
Local Her0 Minmatar La Mancha Corp	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:52:00 - [531] Originally by: Avon Originally by: snerdly You are a pvp organization. pvp organizations want to win. You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear. PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun. To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics. Winning a fight mitigates your costs, it doesn't increase the excitement of the actual fight. There is no "win Eve" ultimately anyway. You win by having fun. If you can only have fun by winning, then you have already lost. I think you are missing the whole "IT IS A GAME" thing, to get meta. It is a form of entertainment. I don't think you get games. I think you don't 'get' losing.
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:52:00 - [532] Originally by: Avon [ You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear. PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun. To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics. You guys sure cry alot in TS for a bunch that are having fun. Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:53:00 - [533] Edited by: snerdly on 04/01/2008 01:53:51 Avon, pvp organizations want to win. This is the case in every mmo I have ever played, and it is the case here. This is especially true in pos warfare, which is exactly the type of war you entered into with your 'plan'. Like you may have noticed, you're only having fun in pos warfare if you're winning. And... Whether or not you believe my absolute, the fact is your behavior in game cannot possibly be reconciled with this 'plan' in any other way. It's that simple. Originally by: Securion Wolfheart EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:53:00 - [534] Edited by: Darkrydar on 04/01/2008 01:53:21 Originally by: Muesli Monster Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve. Like you have any clues? Being wrong on youre earlier corp membership on 2 accounts in this thread... Talk about clueless, yet, you still reply with nothing that will contribute at all, Thanks! nm, pointless to reply to a coward that is posting with an alt.
Lunas Feelgood S.A.S	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:54:00 - [535] I cant belive this thread has turned 20 pages allrdy.. Seriously goons stop arguing with them you cant convince people that actually belive there own lies.. Everyone who has played this game more then a year and got an IQ over 50 would know what to belive.. So this hole thread is preatty pointless both sides will never belive the other one.. Anyway I cant wait until they lose delve and then molle will come up here with a big thread saying how uber they was all of EVE needed to take them on After that they will proberly go attack some ***ty northen alliance and then claim this was all plan we taking the north back On another note.. Dear smashkill you know E-R back in the day tryed to take geminate from you. And where we failed well that was all plan we wanted to go out fighting against alot of peeps Signature Quote: ISD Valorem Someday a thread will be created in CAOD that isn't full of childish drivel. Click*
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:55:00 - [536] Originally by: Peen Long And what about when you run out of isk and you are losing 90% of the time? Still fun? Are you seriously believing yourself? Ask me in another year. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:56:00 - [537] Lot of posting for guys who only wanna PvP. Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
Hrin Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:59:00 - [538] Edited by: Hrin on 04/01/2008 01:59:38 Avon almost sounds believable, until you listen to their TS recordings. They sure do cry alot there. edit: :page21snypa:
Peen Long DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.04 02:00:00 - [539] Originally by: Darkrydar Edited by: Darkrydar on 04/01/2008 01:53:21 Originally by: Muesli Monster Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve. Like you have any clues? Being wrong on youre earlier corp membership on 2 accounts in this thread... Talk about clueless, yet, you still reply with nothing that will contribute at all, Thanks! nm, pointless to reply to a coward that is posting with an alt. Look out! You're gonna get hit by the evasion truck!
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 02:03:00 - [540] Originally by: Peen Long Look out! You're gonna get hit by the evasion truck! If everyone stopped replying to 1-man CAOD only alts this forum would improve a lot. Do you have a problem with that or is that your alt?

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