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Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 - [361] Originally by: Ria Sotori Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I imagine there is truth to it, but there are also blatent lies which everyone will continue to see through. At what point in any logs or mails posted does anyone refer to an RA/Goon/-A- alliance stomping all over everything? Its stated in various sources that BoBs idea of 'everyone' was D2 + pets and ASCN + pets. Which isn't really the same as what is happening now. BoB didn't attack to '**** them off and kill their capitals' ASCN were attacked with territory grabbing clearly in mind. D2 were steamrolled by MC+ assorted allies who went straight for territory and stomped out any fight if it was at all possible. I know taking territory away is a good way to get fight, but BoB never once looked as though that was their intention. Territory was taken, quickly fortified, pets installed. Comments were made of the desire to take all of 0.0. News articles stating the same thing were released. BoB continued to grab more space, they didn't stop for many fights, titans were used as often as humanly possible. Then the patch hit. It may have been A plan, but it's not the plan you executed. Taking space is the only way to make people fight. Some simply cave in, some bring it. ASCN and D2 caved in. Coalition members you mentioned plus few dozens of other alliances you failed to mention kept fighting. You cannot deny that this is the greatest thing EvE has ever seen, and it keeps getting better. As with most petulant ppl they keep trying to look for holes they can spin on.... hard fact of the matter is, when the original discussions took place RA were not considered much of a factor and LV was still alive as a bufferzone on them. Goons at that point in time and even today have yet to demonstrate the ability to accomplish anything militaristically solo other then shooting undefended POS and taking credit for the victories of there overlords. Its really funny to read back thru some of the threads in COAD to hear the goons tell it anytime theres a victory against BOB they are the cause and all you other alliances including there own masters (RA) are just along for the ride on there coat tails. LOL Just think boys and girls, the biggest event of all was the self appointed "Destroyers of Games" the Ebil Goons had to learn to play the game the EVE way and get real allies and develop and maintain agreements with others just to stay in 0.0 :) If nothing else we should all slap ourselves on the back for making them play our game instead of there own. fofofofofofofo
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 - [362] Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:20:58 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50 Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks. I just got home and caught up with this thread. If your amazing intel was any good whatsoever you would know why what you request would not help either one of us. If your source has not informed you why, I suggest you get someone to apply to BNC and see what happens. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 - [363] Edited by: Yussef on 03/01/2008 18:21:39 Originally by: Ria Sotori As with most petulant ppl they keep trying to look for holes they can spin on.... hard fact of the matter is, when the original discussions took place RA were not considered much of a factor and LV was still alive as a bufferzone on them. Goons at that point in time and even today have yet to demonstrate the ability to accomplish anything militaristically solo other then shooting undefended POS and taking credit for the victories of there overlords. Its really funny to read back thru some of the threads in COAD to hear the goons tell it anytime theres a victory against BOB they are the cause and all you other alliances including there own masters (RA) are just along for the ride on there coat tails. LOL Just think boys and girls, the biggest event of all was the self appointed "Destroyers of Games" the Ebil Goons had to learn to play the game the EVE way and get real allies and develop and maintain agreements with others just to stay in 0.0 :) If nothing else we should all slap ourselves on the back for making them play our game instead of there own. fofofofofofofo It really bugs you that the peasants are winning huh?
Galavet Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 - [364] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Now now Chowdown, do we have to bring up your the cousin of a Games Master? Aneu Alright! The real Aneu is back on the forums with his normal high level intel! I was starting to get worried... Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:22:00 - [365] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50 Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks. Wow that was a strange accusation, moving on Avon I am sure will do what he likes so please feel free to encourage him. You however are reasponsible for your own actions, so provide some proof for your previous statements, (even the cousin one if you like ) Ofcorse i like Chowdown, ofcorse i do. Give me time id like some impact behind it Aneu ________________
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:23:00 - [366] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Actually, yes i can. I was part of it for all of 2 weeks and it was boring. Either you lagged out and stared at a black screen for hours on end or you did nothing because there were 2 titans in system and another 3 within jump range. Hence the not being involved. Strange, I don't get nearly as much lag as you do. Maximum of 10 seconds on most occasions. I have to admit however that load times can be nasty when theres some 300 wrecks on the grid.
Utterson Chaotic Breed	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:24:00 - [367] Goons get so emo about all this its really funny. Mittani .... who ?
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:24:00 - [368] Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:20:58 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50 Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks. I just got home and caught up with this thread. If your amazing intel was any good whatsoever you would know why what you request would not help either one of us. If your source has not informed you why, I suggest you get someone to apply to BNC and see what happens. The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork. Soon. Aneu ________________
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:25:00 - [369] Originally by: Utterson Goons get so emo about all this its really funny. I'm cutting myself as I type this.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:27:00 - [370] Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:26:52 Originally by: Aneu Angellus The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork. Soon. Aneu If your intel source was any good he would have got you to ask for my eve-mail inbox, because he would have told you that is where applications would be found. You would already know that any applications made without prior approval are deleted as a matter of course. I am starting to think that your intel sucks. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:28:00 - [371] Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:26:52 Originally by: Aneu Angellus The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork. Soon. Aneu If your intel source was any good he would have got you to ask for my eve-mail inbox, because he would have told you that is where applications would be found. You would already know that any applications made without prior approval are deleted as a matter of course. I am starting to think that your intel sucks. Yet another way BoB wins! BoB has discovered the key to ultimate victory...just change the terms when you start losing.
Chowdown Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:28:00 - [372] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:20:58 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50 Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks. I just got home and caught up with this thread. If your amazing intel was any good whatsoever you would know why what you request would not help either one of us. If your source has not informed you why, I suggest you get someone to apply to BNC and see what happens. The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork. Soon. Aneu Its only sore if it is true, your speculation though entertainly diverse and exciting has no real backing without you providing solid evidence. Until you do that you sound look like a derranged mad man on the street corner screaming out apocolyptic predicitions entertaining but ultimatley pointless.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:28:00 - [373] So, actually, the original statement are made official (or so) ? So, basically in recruitement you are saying : "come with us, we have planned our failure for fun". And also "Dear allies, could you donate ISK to a planned lost cause ?". Again "Hahaha, we planned our loss since day -365 so we win". To me, you just pressed the autodestruct red button there. Bob's actual new public relation say "somehow we should loose but we will be winning anyway". TCF was outnumbered like you with more or less the same ratios. We perfectly know what kind of mechanical problems you could have (and this was fun btw. Not everyday, but was fun.). We stood from mid may 2006 to end oct 2006 if I recall correctly. At this time we never told we would win "for sure". We told "we hope we'll win but the situation is not entirelly under control". We told "gotcha, gotcha, hahaha" when we won battles and were not happy when we loose some but never something like "we're better than you, we are winning anyway". Ask any "old" / semi-"old" TCF member what was in this campaign. There it's not seen as a victory. I have pride that we stood there all this time but never sees it as a victory. It is a failure, we grabed our stuff and came back in 0.0 npc regions, eating our hats, trying not to be asses. Admit your pr logic is also just funny to read at first. Like ASCN's was. Or LV's was. Or any loosing side. It's now also strange when I try to understand it. But not that suprising now, since I read here and there comments about how your old pr always stated things like this : "winning anyway" (and btw, last stading winners anyway, this was true). The next step will be whines. This destroys alliances. By judging it, it's just sound like someone who is loosing and is just blind at it. And the problem is it seems almost sincere. To be sure that you won't reply, you admit you lost this pvp tournament, right ? Beware, a yes is admitting a loss, big one in Bob pr. And a No is just foolish, big loss in credibility. I guess then I'll be ignored, spinned down or trolled. The troll option is so 2006 so you'll want to avoid that. The spinning or the ignorance just seems to be the only option you have. Your leaders try to prove faith there and I just hope for you now it's not stupidity or egotism. Anyway, the fun is coming right under your doors, to quote you. Black days are coming. 2isk
Orebuster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:34:00 - [374] Originally by: Sergeant Spot That BoB's goal is, and always has been, epic warfare, has been pretty much established. As for other details.... --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan. --Did BoB "want" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan. --Did BoB "plan or want" for the Goons to be the loud credit taking mouth for all the various foes we have? No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan. --Did BoB "plan or want" to lose battles/space here and there between winning battles? No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan. BoB's intent has been LONG known. Its not as if any of this is new information. Frankly, the whole thing COULD be a win/win situation for everyone involved, so long as you like epic warfare. So, no matter what happens, it is still just a detail within a successful plan. "Hey guys, our plan is to play Eve, whether in space or station simulator. We will maintain a subscription! As long as we pay a monthly subscription fee, we're winning!"
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:38:00 - [375] Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings. BoB have lost dozens of stations, vast numbers of caps and even some super caps, they have lost however many regions and however many friends. But how many members have they lost? Practically none. That little white graph has stood firm and strong. Whether they thought they were guna lose thier space or not is another matter, but really, its not important, because once they lose it all, they are just guna find somewhere else to have fun. What else can they do? Hands up who would accept a BoB corp into thier Alliance? Eve has practically forced them together, and together, they shall always be.
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:39:00 - [376] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Moctobot this successful plan of yours doesnt seem to depend much on success which to me is odd but w/e But you can't win Eve, that's kinda the point. Ultimately there is no success to be had. All you can do is play the game in a way that brings you fun and entertainment. I really thought you guys "got" Eve? this post is like the end of the 80s movie sensation 'wargames' starring matthew broderick
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:41:00 - [377] Originally by: Darko1107 Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings. these have not been updated since goonswarm became the number 1 ranked alliance (2 weeks ago)
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:41:00 - [378] Originally by: Moctobot Originally by: Avon Originally by: Moctobot this successful plan of yours doesnt seem to depend much on success which to me is odd but w/e But you can't win Eve, that's kinda the point. Ultimately there is no success to be had. All you can do is play the game in a way that brings you fun and entertainment. I really thought you guys "got" Eve? this post is like the end of the 80s movie sensation 'wargames' starring matthew broderick W.H.O.P.P.E.R. understands why can't you? Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:42:00 - [379] Edited by: Darko1107 on 03/01/2008 18:42:43 Originally by: Moctobot Originally by: Darko1107 Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings. these have not been updated since goonswarm became the number 1 ranked alliance (2 weeks ago) Yeh i know Goons should be number 1 after BoB lost another bajillion stations, but you can still compare the unupdated pos/outpost levels to member levels.
Powder Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:45:00 - [380] Originally by: DoctorGonzo The video in the op is rubbish, I much prefer the one where he loses his Raven passed out at the keyboard. It's much funnier and more relevant if you know that man. Was it Mafia way back in 2004/05? was candy and the miami vice crew, and 2004 sounds about right to me
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:46:00 - [381] Goddamn, I go eat lunch and this thread jumps two pages... And you know what? No one has bothered to respond to my post. The only response I got was from Avon, and was rather idiotic, to be honest. I just want a response. If someone from BoB would respond rationally, I'd really appreciate it. My respect for you is at stake (OK, not really, I don't have any respect for you. I would appreciate it, though) Here, lemme quote. Originally by: snerdly Hi there BoB. I suppose that is has been established that there was some sort of plan. What sort of plan? Very simple. The extent of the plan, it seems, was to get a large percentage of EVE against BoB. That was the plan. The fact that is was predicted that BoB might have to fall back to Delve is irrelevant; that was realism talking. Your goal never was, and still is not, to fall back to Delve. Your goal was simply to get a large percentage of EVE against you. What was this 'plan'? Well, it wasn't much of anything actually... Just keep acting aggressive and keep saying things like 'we want to take over the universe'. IN other words, just keep being BoB. (And no, being arrogant pr1cks wasn't part of the plan. You' act like arrogant pr1cks because you are arrogant pr1cks) So, at the start of this war, your plan came to fruition. A large percentage of EVE was against you. You entered into the most epic fight EVE has ever seen. At this point, you did not know if you would win, or if you would lose. You did not know if you were end up defending your fortreses to the last, or smashing down the enemy's gates. You fought your hardest, and expected your allies to do the same. Turns out you're going to lose. So. We win, you lose. Nothing about this plan changes that fact. Nothing about this plan should change anything about the victory the coalition is achieving. Yes, you're rolling it out now as damage control. No, it doesn't matter. Yes, I am ***ed. Yes, I am still rational. Answer.* Originally by: Securion Wolfheart EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB.
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:46:00 - [382] Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 03/01/2008 18:42:43 Originally by: Moctobot Originally by: Darko1107 Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings. these have not been updated since goonswarm became the number 1 ranked alliance (2 weeks ago) Yeh i know Goons should be number 1 after BoB lost another bajillion stations, but you can still compare the unupdated pos/outpost levels to member levels. by killing off all of bobs pets we flooded them with the applications of said pets they have acccepted several - i am not sure what point you are trying to make
Hitme Harder HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:49:00 - [383] wow this thread is really bitter, hopped waaay too long
Nlewis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:49:00 - [384] how convenient
Vanki Stormchaser GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:57:00 - [385] The only plan bob can reasonably claim is to troll goons on caod by pretending to be da PuPpEtMaStA It's working well. There's no way the stuff they're saying is in earnest. It's too ridiculous.
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:59:00 - [386] Edited by: Yussef on 03/01/2008 18:59:48 Control Freak In psychology-related slang, control freak is a derogatory term for a person who attempts to impose excessive predictability and direction on others or on events, often associated with insecurity or a lack of trust. Frequently, a person labeled a "control freak" has a position of authority or superiority in a relationship; however, the person's obsessiveness extends beyond the acceptable range of control. I believe what BoB really needs is a hug. Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
Marmalade Joe GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:00:00 - [387] Seeing Chowdown defend Bob's not (really) helping LV when it was collapsing itt is pretty funny. The rest of the thread, though. :cripes:
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:01:00 - [388] moderated
Danyael Tyren Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:03:00 - [389] EvE end-game is about taking and holding 0.0 Space, and the ensuing conflicts. If your conditions for winning at EvE do not include that, you are losing. Pretending otherwise just makes you look sad and desperate. Pretending that you have perfectly engineered spectacular losses of vast swathes of space in order to make PvP more convenient for yourself is just silly and ridiculous. If you really wanted a fight, there were three different regions, stocked with former pets and infrastructure that would have gotten you precisely that. I will tell you what happened to BoB. Time passed them by. Goons went from the horde of T1 frig, bookmark bombing noobs, to a vast horde of Capitals, T2 Snipers, and nano-hac gangs, backed by the likes of RA/TCF. The writing is on the wall where anyone willing or able to look can see.
Nlewis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 19:04:00 - [390] thread redeemed

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