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Hast Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:01:00 - [301] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Its common knowledge that BOB wanted all of eve to attack them. I'm certain that losing all their space wasn't part of the plan though. They've spent many years winning all major conflicts by assembling huge blobs, and I think they forgot what it was like to actually have to fight a war when the cards aren't stacked heavily in their favor. nice to see that someone have their head screwed on straight for once even if he has a cauldron of hate Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:03:00 - [302] I find it quite amusing that BoB members are now sticking to the whole 'we planned this anyway' excuse. You are sticking to it so vividly that it could change peopleÆs minds and actually make them believe you, problem is though, now you have an anti-bob presence on the forums and it stops your propaganda dead in its tracks. You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed. People can see through it now, and itÆs a just reward for prior indiscretions. Enjoy. Aneu ________________
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:03:00 - [303] Originally by: Victor Vision Did BoB got more than they bargained for? Check Actually I'd say it fell far short of our expectations. We wanted the most Epic conflict with the greatest superpowers in Eve, but I guess what we ended up fighting is better than nothing. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:05:00 - [304] Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52 Originally by: Aneu Angellus You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed. Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept. And no, you aren't getting in, sorry. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Orebuster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:09:00 - [305] OK, I can accept, as a hypothetical, that the RSF has played into the GBC's hands by taking over all of their space. I can accept that this was the plan all along, and causing the failure and destruction of all of the GBC's allies was also part of the plan. The part I have trouble with is the "we're just looking for good fights". We're in Delve and the GBC (what is left of it) won't undock. You won't find a good fight cowering in station, you have to undock. Why have you wasted all your resources to play station simulator? Why have you made the RSF chase you down to your last system just so you can hide inside a station and proclaim victory? Three RSF members held 12 hostiles in a system in Delve for 2 hours last night. At least 6 of those members were active. Were your 2-1 odds too overwhelming to be considered a good fight? You don't have to bring everyone, you could just bring as many as we bring. How low the mighty have fallen. I remember when BoB membership, rightly or wrongly, was proud of inclusion into an "elite" group of pilots. If I recall correctly, there used to be a minimum skillpoint requirement. How many skillpoints does it take to huddle in a station? Protip: If you don't want to get your expensive ships blown up, and you outnumber your enemy, jump in a t1 frig and blob them, you may die, but you may kill one of them, and at least it is more exciting than cowering in space while your leadership tells you, "this was the plan all along!"
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:09:00 - [306] Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52 Originally by: Aneu Angellus You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed. Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept. And no, you aren't getting in, sorry. Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving? The day you see me with BoB tags is the day that someone else has my accounts - and that will never happen. Aneu ________________
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:14:00 - [307] I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future.
djNME DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:15:00 - [308] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52 Originally by: Aneu Angellus You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed. Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept. And no, you aren't getting in, sorry. Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving? The day you see me with BoB tags is the day that someone else has my accounts - and that will never happen. Aneu There's shyt to do in game.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:16:00 - [309] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving? Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums. You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:18:00 - [310] Originally by: Yussef I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future. Don't flatter yourself, the plan wasn't for you - you are just what we had to settle for. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:18:00 - [311] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Aneu Angellus Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving? Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums. You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands. everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:20:00 - [312] Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat Does it hurt so much that they'd rather join us than you that you feel you have to post about it? Why yes, yes it would seem it does. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:22:00 - [313] What's funny is the tipping point for this war was the t20 scandal. So is BoB trying to say is that they engineered that whole scandal to set off this conflict? And I guess CCP went along with it cause, sure even though it created a ton of headaches for them and lots of bad will, well they just REALLY like BoB more then their bottom line. For christ sakes go out with SOME dignity.
Teabreak Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:24:00 - [314] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Yussef I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future. Don't flatter yourself, the plan wasn't for you - you are just what we had to settle for. That must really suck for you then... you end up having to fight the goons... and still get your butts bounced all round eve!
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:25:00 - [315] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Yussef I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future. Don't flatter yourself, the plan wasn't for you - you are just what we had to settle for. i love cognitive dissonance - if we are worse than you at this game then why are we winning while you are losing it isnt numbers - you started out with just as many the truth of the matter is that you left your pets in the lurch and they all died one by one until you stood alone and now you are gonna die alone you guys were supposed to be my end game but i guess i bought the hype because you are all awful at this game in reality
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:26:00 - [316] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat Does it hurt so much that they'd rather join us than you that you feel you have to post about it? Why yes, yes it would seem it does. Just out of curiosity could you take a screenshot of your applications and blank out the names possibly? Im curious. Aneu ________________
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:26:00 - [317] Originally by: Teabreak That must really suck for you then... you end up having to fight the goons... and still get your butts bounced all round eve! Fortunate then that they are just the rather unpleasant fascade of a rather more capable coalition, otherwise you would be correct, my e-dignity would be in tatters. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:28:00 - [318] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat Does it hurt so much that they'd rather join us than you that you feel you have to post about it? Why yes, yes it would seem it does. yea man we are hurting for numbers you sure are weapons grade stupid avon
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:29:00 - [319] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Just out of curiosity could you take a screenshot of your applications and blank out the names possibly? Im curious. Aneu Wait. Did you just suggest I edit a screenshot in photoshop and then present it to you as evidence? Do you not see a possible weakness in that logic? Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:29:00 - [320] Hi there BoB. I suppose that is has been established that there was some sort of plan. What sort of plan? Very simple. The extent of the plan, it seems, was to get a large percentage of EVE against BoB. That was the plan. The fact that is was predicted that BoB might have to fall back to Delve is irrelevant; that was realism talking. Your goal never was, and still is not, to fall back to Delve. Your goal was simply to get a large percentage of EVE against you. What was this 'plan'? Well, it wasn't much of anything actually... Just keep acting aggressive and keep saying things like 'we want to take over the universe'. IN other words, just keep being BoB. (And no, being arrogant pr1cks wasn't part of the plan. You' act like arrogant pr1cks because you are arrogant pr1cks) So, at the start of this war, your plan came to fruition. A large percentage of EVE was against you. You entered into the most epic fight EVE has ever seen. At this point, you did not know if you would win, or if you would lose. You did not know if you were end up defending your fortreses to the last, or smashing down the enemy's gates. You fought your hardest, and expected your allies to do the same. Turns out you're going to lose. So. We win, you lose. Nothing about this plan changes that fact. Nothing about this plan should change anything about the victory the coalition is achieving. Yes, you're rolling it out now as damage control. No, it doesn't matter. Originally by: Securion Wolfheart EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB.
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:30:00 - [321] Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat Good ships don't sink, there is no rats to abandon it. Only failboat would be applying to goonswarm and spending this entire war shooting large POS with a BS.
Vanki Stormchaser GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 - [322] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Aneu Angellus Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving? Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums. You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands. How many of them are refugees from exe, rise, d-l, yw, corelli, cow, lv, v, mwa, iss, fix, soco, aftermath, tsc, bos, styx, hun Being belligerent and getting killed is hardly a pinnacle of achievement. The fact that you guys are so proud of it is hilarious.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 - [323] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Aneu Angellus Just out of curiosity could you take a screenshot of your applications and blank out the names possibly? Im curious. Aneu Wait. Did you just suggest I edit a screenshot in photoshop and then present it to you as evidence? Do you not see a possible weakness in that logic? No not really, i didnt mention photoshop, you could use MS Paint for all i care, its quite easy to notice if dates have been copied and it would take quite some time to do. So, can you do it? Or leave the names in there, im sure those who have applied to join BoB wont mind since if they were accepted they would have it in their tags anyway. Aneu ________________
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 - [324] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Teabreak That must really suck for you then... you end up having to fight the goons... and still get your butts bounced all round eve! Fortunate then that they are just the rather unpleasant fascade of a rather more capable coalition, otherwise you would be correct, my e-dignity would be in tatters. BTW if the "we meant to do it line" ever breaks past your denial try "well we left fighting and our dignity was intact, so we win!" or "our K/D ratio kicked ass, so we win!" or "I needed to get outside more anyway, so we win!"
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 - [325] Originally by: Shoukei Quote: Originally Posted by Blacklight In terms of likely outcomes and consequences for BoB the first thing you have to remember is that we've been setting this war and it's climax up for over two years now. Why on earth do you think we've been acting all arrogant, rubbing people's noses in it, kicking sand in everyone's faces and generally **ing everyone off for so long? People seem to forget that we wanted this war, we wanted these odds, we wanted the challenge, we wanted this much pressure and we wanted to risk everything. Why? So we could engineer the most epic conflict Eve has ever seen, create the best player driven content in any MMO ever and ensure both you (yes all of you, even Mittani Razz) and we have the most fun ever. The likes of Molle, Galavet, Thol, Coranor and myself have been dreaming of this and working towards it for years. I can tell you for sure that forcing us out of Delve won't kill us, as a group of corporations and people we work too well together, have too much history together, have too much fun together and enjoy each other's company too much to just go our seperate ways. Even if we have a few months off doing our own thing as a break if/when we get forced out of Delve, you'll see BoB back in action again somewhere. We've been gaming together for close on four years now, losing this war (and remember we've been working towards this climax for two years now) and losing the rest of our territory will just push us into a new phase, new style, new goals, new challenges and more fun. I for one will most certainly hold my head up high, stick a finger up at everyone and laugh when I say "we went down fighting in Delve and look how many of you ***** it took to do it... I hope you all had as much fun as we did" Razz If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet landing on your doorstep, it'll be like having a high speed gravel enema in space. In terms of what happens after this war politically, I hope we see a rash of much smaller territorial wars, much shorter positive standings lists all round and see the demise of massive multi-alliance power blocks (at least for a while). this was posted on Monday, 25 December 2006 Finfleet wern't in BoB on Monday, 25 December 2006.
Orebuster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:32:00 - [326] Originally by: Avon I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands. Let me guess, former FIX, RISE, CORM, GONAD, and LV pilots? No wonder you want to discard them.
Moctobot GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:34:00 - [327] Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat Good ships don't sink, there is no rats to abandon it. man between this statement and the 'the wounded tiger is a tiger before it is wounded' statement you guys are getting zen as hell
Baxalusx GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:35:00 - [328] You think you got it hard, Avon, that you didn't get the epic fight you expected? What about us? We fought our way, tooth and nail, through henchman after henchman, growing an outcast to a superpower. And when we finally got to the god damned villain, the whole point, he dies of a heart attack. Don't tell goons about disappointing endgame content, because pot kettle black. --------- ~THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS ICORION~
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:35:00 - [329] Originally by: Moctobot it isnt numbers - you started out with just as many That is the most common misconception out there. Numbers in alliances mean ** all. It's the alliance activity. Count the amount of alliances on coalition side able to field 80-100 man gangs, and do the same for GBC alliances. You can start the count whenever in the timescale of the conflict and will have to conclude that the coalition has always outnumberd the gbc on the field. Theoretical numbers mean ** all. But keep believeing the hype. We all planned this anyways. Now if only i could remember what i'm supposed to have for dinner tonight snip Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem
Yussef Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:36:00 - [330] Originally by: Moctobot Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat Good ships don't sink, there is no rats to abandon it. man between this statement and the 'the wounded tiger is a tiger before it is wounded' statement you guys are getting zen as hell Everyone turns to religion at the end.

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