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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:34:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Zellura
Originally by: Omeega well well, seems those DMC guys have the same open mind spirit we found on ATUK guys few years ago.
*RL HORSE**** POST*
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Taison
Xenobytes Stain Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:36:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Graalum
Quote: I wouldn't blame them for lying to get whatever ally they can onboard if that is the case. DMC made a diplomatic mistake, and from their own chat log postings, seems they are unwilling to repair it.
from my view of it, the larger chatlog was supposed to be showing that the rest of them were telling the angry guy to stfu, which is kinda like apologizing for a drunken friend who is being a dip****. Of course, if rk was in ra's place, our response would probably be 'to bad' followed by much yarrring.
General question: so it this going to be a territorial war, or just a 'few the carp out of dmc' war?
The problem is - as i understood, that drunken friend was the DMC CEO... So that argument of beein dip**** seems not appropriate
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MINERALMAN
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:37:00 -
[93]
Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 12/01/2008 18:32:15
Originally by: Lita Brutor As i can see RA is the new BoB in the game, the lie and backstab corps. So an advise to all alliance and corps dont trust them. I hope a lot of alliance and corps joins up with DMC and help fight Russians and there pets.
i think u will find alt guy (or turn on ur corp name etc plz), the russians have never been trustworthy. People need to stop using this "ZOMG THEY THE NEW BOB!" line..
Originally by: Papa Digger DMC propaganda machine turn on...

rofl; That's a priceless comment coming from a member of RA/RSF.
You have disappointed me Maxy
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Elizabeth Fallbrook
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:42:00 -
[94]
their propaganda machine could use a tune-up. i'm pretty sure nync and his compadres will be glad to lube up dmc's exhaust pipes though
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:43:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Graalum on 12/01/2008 18:46:10
Originally by: Taison
Originally by: Graalum
Quote: I wouldn't blame them for lying to get whatever ally they can onboard if that is the case. DMC made a diplomatic mistake, and from their own chat log postings, seems they are unwilling to repair it.
from my view of it, the larger chatlog was supposed to be showing that the rest of them were telling the angry guy to stfu, which is kinda like apologizing for a drunken friend who is being a dip****. Of course, if rk was in ra's place, our response would probably be 'to bad' followed by much yarrring.
General question: so it this going to be a territorial war, or just a 'few the carp out of dmc' war?
The problem is - as i understood, that drunken friend was the DMC CEO... So that argument of beein dip**** seems not appropriate
of course, but in many alliances being just a ceo doesn't mean that much, also it seems to me that many alliances now days have 30-40 corps, thats 30-40 people who don't really count that much outside their 20 man corp. Remember, not all alliances are AAA, Morsus, bob, etc where there are only 5-6 very larger corporations and the opinion of a ceo actually carries some significance and weight.
just to clarify, if i were in charge of dmc i would kick that ceo in the teeth. Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Zi37A
Gallente Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:48:00 -
[96]
...that CEO being alliance founder/leader  Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches |

Muromachi
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:51:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Muromachi on 12/01/2008 18:51:37 -
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Tayler Derden
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:52:00 -
[98]
Ka-Tet our pets? LOL
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Orravan
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:54:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Zi37A ...that CEO being alliance founder/leader 
Still, it's one person. Not 1500.
Something less trivial : even if it's unexpected from a CEO / diplomat, it's out of the context. Actually, it happen when a(nother) blue fleet engaged DMC. Hence the harsh reaction from someone who doesn't expected an ally to help his ennemy. RA came after. ____________________
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Guderick
Singulerity
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:54:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Zi37A ...that CEO being alliance founder/leader 
but not the only founder/leader
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Daroh
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 18:56:00 -
[101]
ops...someone got raped
Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Omeega on 12/01/2008 19:05:42 can't even keep count on our titans, isn't this sad.
rumors are that dmc just got double doomsdayed in their home system, fun times ahead.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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MINERALMAN
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:05:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Daroh Edited by: Daroh on 12/01/2008 18:56:50 ops...someone get raped
again? 
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Darohir
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:08:00 -
[104]
Originally by: MINERALMAN
Originally by: Daroh Edited by: Daroh on 12/01/2008 18:56:50 ops...someone get raped
again? 
dont ask me )
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:10:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Zi37A ...that CEO being alliance founder/leader 
I missread it as a ceo.
nvm  
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KweKwe Babe
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:10:00 -
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I LOOOOVE the nubs that dont know **** saying DMC attacked Ka-Tet etc blah blah
If your not alliance leadership then you probably dont know whats really happened.
Ka-Tet moved to invade DMC and we stopped that and used attack as our form of deffence. Sick of Blues thinking they can move against allies. RA joined in because DMC wont give them titans for 40bil and it was suitable to them at the time. Confirmed by RA nync
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Zi37A
Gallente Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:11:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Guderick
Originally by: Zi37A ...that CEO being alliance founder/leader 
but not the only founder/leader
was just clearing things up for RK dude. sup m8? Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches |

TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:11:00 -
[108]
DMC guys, you need to turn your corp/alliace ticker on.
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Unrah
Gallente Capital Inc. Capital Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:12:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Unrah on 12/01/2008 19:17:39
Part 1 Ok, lets try to bring some light in this Chaos. First off, some may aks Unrah, what the hell does she know about all this? Well, let me introduce myself: Some may know me and my corp as capital / supercapital producer. Myself and my corp/alliance are my empire shop open to all kind of capital business. My second corp, which is produceing all those caps, is inside DMC. So i can reveal you the whole truth about this incident.
I was a happy little carebear doing what i can best, produceing capships in DMC space. Nice people around me, and my first involments into rude eve politics. Now the chain starts which lead to todays situation:
All Facts for now, no sugggestions:
1.) Pure started to invade DMC 2.) Myself had 2 titans in the cooker at that time 3.) We didn`t recieve any help from other alliances, and we knew we had not much chances to stand against pure on our own. 4.) We turned to RA and asked for assistance. We offered our space, to help them in anything they wanna do, and myself offered to produce all my products (carriers/dreads/Ms`s) for a cheaper price. 5.) RA (NYNC and UAxxDeath for that matter) said. Give us 4 motherships + monthly payment of 1 bil isk, and you will recieve lifetime protection from RA. 6.) Man, that was a hard decision at that night. We would give away 100 bil isk worth in assets to them in a single shot, and get no garantees for it. Well, do you know the feeling when you look back at decesions you really regret? This was one of them, we agreed on the deal. Cruel Fox and Fletcher gave away their own ms`s, and myself put up the other 2 for deal. Laugh at us if you want, tell us how stupid we were! But we saw an option to save the hard work of hundreds of people over a long period of time. We love our space, we love our home, we love our outposts. 8.) Pure breaking off the attack, 9.) RA finds out that i have 2 titans in the cooker and we get approached about selling them both titans. 10.) I offered them to sell one Titan for 90 bil isk (its made of a bpc bought for nearly 20 bil isk, so production cost is about 65 isk for that one) and would have probably gone down to 80 bil if they would aks nicly. 11.) They demanded to get it for 50 bil isk, and i said no sorry, i won`t sell them under my own production cost. After that they just left the channel, and didn`t respond to any chat invite anymore. 12.) Some time later, DMC get attacked by Ka TET. Let me make this clear here: Ka TET attacked US, set US red, not the other way round. No word from RA. But our neighbours Atlas and Chaos Incarnate offered us to assist in this batlle. And after turning away a Ka Tet fleet from a possible pos assault, Atlas + CI + DMC brought the War to Ka TET space. 13.) The combined forces doing quite well against Ka Tet, killing an Aeon of them and starting to go for one of their cyno jammers. 14.) Saturday: 12.01.08: After DT: I log in, and find a combined fleet of Legion of xxDeath and RA attacking our cyno jammer and then starting to siege us with quite a large fleet. I don`t know yet if we got any priour warning to this, but as i think of them now, probably not.
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:12:00 -
[110]
Originally by: KweKwe Babe Confirmed by RA nync
oh ok then i guess it has to be true.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Bashiri
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:13:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Digicomm
Originally by: Bashiri This is boring i thought there be some pew pew in drone region with smash.
Why would you want that when your already getting asses handed to you by BoB? omg LOL smash.
Smash is the northern KOS LOL.
I was waiting for someone to smack talk but it had to be a alt..... i guess your ceo would pwnomgwtf you if you did it with your main.
O well your smack levle has been reduce by 1 level do to the fact you forgot to upgrade your clone. Please retrain to level 1.
I wonder if i can fly around drone space and Fraps these fights seen i'm blue to all of you.
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Unrah
Gallente Capital Inc. Capital Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:13:00 -
[112]
Part 2: My conlcusion for now + some of my own suggestions about all this: We got f.... from behind, quite and simple. We honored our deal, and payed the agreed price. And my 2 titans i had in production at that time were not part of any deal for them. I offered them to sell them titans at a cheaper price + my own titan for any fleet operations around our space. And their offfer of 50 bil isk for one was just an insult to me, i don`t put up all the hard work to build one and then just give it away for free.
Poor russians are ****ed because they didn`t get what they want at their condition, so they work out a neat little plan. They bring Ka TET to attack DMC, hopeing that DMC will come running to RA crying for help. Instead, DMC does not ask RA for an help, but is doing a good job in the war, also of course due to the swift help of of Atlas and CI (thanks again from myself to you guys for your swift help)
Things are not going as planned, so they have to step out of the dark and start acting themself. They throw some accusations at us on forums that we broke a deal, and take this fake reason to attack us without any warning, going from blue to red in a blink of an eye. This is really one of the biggest backstabbing moves i have seen in quite some time now in Eve. I thought you guys were man of honor, and that your word counts something. Oh boy, have i been fooled!
To all people who will deal with RA , Legion of xxdeath , especially with NYNC and UaxxDeath, BEWARE! Learn soemthing from our mistakes here, and DO NOT TRUST THEM. By the way, why does soo many people within RA spend countless hours of their time in this game so NYNC and UaXXDeath get a titan for themself very cheapo r a MS for free?
How this continues, we will see, maybe i will just throw up the biggest merc contract ever: Kill RA, Kill Legion of XXDeath, and thorw in their pets as a bonus. If you are a big Mercalliance or a group of alliances and feel up to that, let me know the price.
One last thing about this post: Some people know me for quite some time now although i didn`t appear in any political threads, but i am a well know business person. People have trusted me with billions of isks, and all who know me know, they can rely on my word!
The day i finished both of those beautiful ships was a very proud one, now they and backstabbing mentality just make me sad.
I am soo filled with rage atm that i should probably not post this, but hell, too late. /hitting ok button now/
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Daroh
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:15:00 -
[113]
dont trust them!
trust me! 
Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
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Mc Leech
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:21:00 -
[114]
The biggest mistake you made was to accept help from chaos/atlas. What did you think would happen if you join forces with someone red to us and RA? Very bad political move and you can only blame yourself for it.
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Bashiri
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:24:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Unrah Part 2: My conlcusion for now + some of my own suggestions about all this: We got f.... from behind, quite and simple. We honored our deal, and payed the agreed price. And my 2 titans i had in production at that time were not part of any deal for them. I offered them to sell them titans at a cheaper price + my own titan for any fleet operations around our space. And their offfer of 50 bil isk for one was just an insult to me, i don`t put up all the hard work to build one and then just give it away for free.
Poor russians are ****ed because they didn`t get what they want at their condition, so they work out a neat little plan. They bring Ka TET to attack DMC, hopeing that DMC will come running to RA crying for help. Instead, DMC does not ask RA for an help, but is doing a good job in the war, also of course due to the swift help of of Atlas and CI (thanks again from myself to you guys for your swift help)
Things are not going as planned, so they have to step out of the dark and start acting themself. They throw some accusations at us on forums that we broke a deal, and take this fake reason to attack us without any warning, going from blue to red in a blink of an eye. This is really one of the biggest backstabbing moves i have seen in quite some time now in Eve. I thought you guys were man of honor, and that your word counts something. Oh boy, have i been fooled!
To all people who will deal with RA , Legion of xxdeath , especially with NYNC and UaxxDeath, BEWARE! Learn soemthing from our mistakes here, and DO NOT TRUST THEM. By the way, why does soo many people within RA spend countless hours of their time in this game so NYNC and UaXXDeath get a titan for themself very cheapo r a MS for free?
How this continues, we will see, maybe i will just throw up the biggest merc contract ever: Kill RA, Kill Legion of XXDeath, and thorw in their pets as a bonus. If you are a big Mercalliance or a group of alliances and feel up to that, let me know the price.
One last thing about this post: Some people know me for quite some time now although i didn`t appear in any political threads, but i am a well know business person. People have trusted me with billions of isks, and all who know me know, they can rely on my word!
The day i finished both of those beautiful ships was a very proud one, now they and backstabbing mentality just make me sad.
I am soo filled with rage atm that i should probably not post this, but hell, too late. /hitting ok button now/
Nice i wonder if MC is not to busy for this.
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Darius silverbolt
Rukongai Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:27:00 -
[116]
TO quote nync UA Industry Red Alliance
"This is an offiсial announcement concerning G5KW-3 region, DMC who is primary holder of that region, is now under protection of Red Alliance and X.I.X, any hostile activities against the region and DMC will be concidered as hostile activities against RA and X.I.X."
Well Ka-Tet attack and you did what? Nothing plain and simple. Atlas and other wanted to join in on the pew pew vs Ka-Tet.
The mistake was to give you the ISK and 4 motherships plain and simple.
I am under the idea you guys pretty much wanted this too turn out just the way it has so far.
The only positive thign today so far for me is that I tanked a Titian today....just not the second one.
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:28:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Darius silverbolt
The only positive thign today so far for me is that I tanked a Titian today....just not the second one.
;)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Frygok
Minmatar Malicious Intentions The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:30:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Mc Leech The biggest mistake you made was to accept help from chaos/atlas. What did you think would happen if you join forces with someone red to us and RA? Very bad political move and you can only blame yourself for it.
Well, where was the Russian help that was promised then? I have heard no denying or other explanation from RA about the lack of help, about demanding titans for ridiculously cheap prices, about leaving channels and no replying to mails.
That just goes to show that all the big alliances act the same way, and the pets pay the price. Would be nice if other small/medium sized alliances learned from this. There is no such thing as life long protection. And know that you will be kicked out the second a better deal opens up the large alliance sworn to protect you. Loyalty is not a concept large alliances need to deal with.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:31:00 -
[119]
Edited by: MAXSuicide on 12/01/2008 19:31:02
Originally by: MINERALMAN
Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 12/01/2008 18:32:15
Originally by: Lita Brutor As i can see RA is the new BoB in the game, the lie and backstab corps. So an advise to all alliance and corps dont trust them. I hope a lot of alliance and corps joins up with DMC and help fight Russians and there pets.
i think u will find alt guy (or turn on ur corp name etc plz), the russians have never been trustworthy. People need to stop using this "ZOMG THEY THE NEW BOB!" line..
Originally by: Papa Digger DMC propaganda machine turn on...

rofl; That's a priceless comment coming from a member of RA/RSF.
You have disappointed me Maxy
u, ET and omeega are the only ones ive ever trusted <3
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:31:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Unrah
How this continues, we will see, maybe i will just throw up the biggest merc contract ever: Kill RA, Kill Legion of XXDeath, and thorw in their pets as a bonus.
If you are a big Mercalliance or a group of alliances and feel up to that, let me know the price.
Also, price is not the issue, you need a plan.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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