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Thak Navari Caldari Uneasy Corp Te-Ka	Posted - 2008.02.07 18:50:00 - [61] LeSkunk, You assume that everyone that passes your gate camp will be fitted that way. When infact most of the noobs your vicious hunting parties will catch will not have such a setup. Please tell all as to why this is so important given only one ship passed by your camp and got away. Now I do see your side of things as it is a "possible" game mechanics issue... Your recourse in this situation instead of forum crying is to open a petition, not to tell everyone else that they are wrong and you in turn have the only opinion that counts! As it is now you arent looking too favorable to those of us outside the conversation.
Thanos Mortis The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.07 18:59:00 - [62] lol you suck at pirating this badly that you come to the forums to advertise this evasion tactic you're really clueless aren't you!! You can decloak a BS before it aligns with a mwd burst from a commandship, how you can complain that you're "dedicated" 10man camp has a 0% success rate in catching someone employing this technique is laughable. Have 1x ship dedicated to decloaking if need be, you could actually pay attention to you're scout, be ready for the gate activation and mwd into the direction of the recently cloaked ship. Or instead of camping the gate at 0m, try manually spacing out 14km from the gate, more often than not one of your 10 man blob will probably be under 5km from the cloaker, if you can't react and decloak them in 10 seconds you really don't deserve a kill. Quit the pathetic whining -
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.02.07 19:15:00 - [63] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: delta phi i love when pirates whine I love it when bears pheer my pvp skills so much they post with alts SKUNK I love when pirate whine too 8). Try 0.0 and this thing we call an interdictor. Meet you there
Twilight Mourning	Posted - 2008.02.07 19:30:00 - [64] Originally by: Thanos Mortis lol you suck at pirating this badly that you come to the forums to advertise this evasion tactic you're really clueless aren't you!! You can decloak a BS before it aligns with a mwd burst from a commandship, how you can complain that you're "dedicated" 10man camp has a 0% success rate in catching someone employing this technique is laughable. Have 1x ship dedicated to decloaking if need be, you could actually pay attention to you're scout, be ready for the gate activation and mwd into the direction of the recently cloaked ship. Or instead of camping the gate at 0m, try manually spacing out 14km from the gate, more often than not one of your 10 man blob will probably be under 5km from the cloaker, if you can't react and decloak them in 10 seconds you really don't deserve a kill. Quit the pathetic whining I think we have all missed the major point of this thread. I have finaly figured it out so I've decided to enlighten everyone. Skunk doesn't want advice on how to stop this. He only wants people to agree with him so he can have an I Win button installed on his gate camp. So from not on anyone who doesn't agree with Skunk, don't bother posting. He will just disagree with you, say you are wrong, make up things to say you are wrong and generaly troll for sympathy that he can't be bothered to learn propper gate camping techniques.
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.07 19:52:00 - [65] I'm with Skunk, if you have a modual active, you shouldn't be able to cloak. End of discussion. The rest of you tosspots appear to be mentally challenged who's family gene pool came from the bottom of the rejected barrel. Learn to read, comprehend, and awknowledge rather than scan, dismiss, and castigate. Since I have to be constructive: Go to school. I can flame too, just better than feeble speak. I laugh you cry I laugh some more. You say lawl but you die inside. Yes, put up that barrier and act all tough! Bring me your main and the pixalated death beams! Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Twilight Mourning	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:03:00 - [66] Originally by: Tal Nok blah blah crap For the love of god... learn to punctuate, learn to spell and learn to think!
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:04:00 - [67] Edited by: Tal Nok on 07/02/2008 20:05:52 Originally by: Twilight Mourning For the love of god... learn to punctuate, learn to spell and learn to think! Didn't read my post did you? EDIT: I challenge you to a game of chess. Proof or stfu. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:09:00 - [68] Originally by: Thanos Mortis lol you suck at pirating this badly that you come to the forums to advertise this evasion tactic you're really clueless aren't you!! Its a broken mechanic whether its known by 4 people or 40k people. Also where do you camp ill head there with my alt in a exploiting battlship with bpos in cargohold. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:11:00 - [69] Edited by: Le Skunk on 07/02/2008 20:13:35 Edited by: Le Skunk on 07/02/2008 20:12:17 Originally by: DHB WildCat Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: delta phi i love when pirates whine I love it when bears pheer my pvp skills so much they post with alts SKUNK I love when pirate whine too 8). Try 0.0 and this thing we call an interdictor. Meet you there Posting in orange does not make you cool.. it makes you a self important idiot. This evidence is backed up with your post.. which suggests an interdicitor which cannot be used to bubble LOW SEC which is refered to multiple times in this thread. 0.0 is playing eve on easy mode as far as im concerend. Its lazy, requires little skill other then sitting around a collosal bubble without sentry guns to worry about. Its full of self important alliance blowhards whittering on about 'their space'. Ive tried it, it was unchallenging. But whether im in 0.0 or timbucktoo, this mechanic is still broken. SKUNK
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:12:00 - [70] Originally by: Le Skunk with bpos in cargohold. SKUNK can i have ur stuf% (look, I can't spell, or punctuate!) Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:15:00 - [71] Edited by: Le Skunk on 07/02/2008 20:15:19 Originally by: Tal Nok Originally by: Le Skunk with bpos in cargohold. SKUNK can i have ur stuf% LOL Yes you most certainly can if you can catch my exploiting alt as he travels around eves low sec gatecamps, using a borked mechanic to render all the muliple genius posting in this thread impotent. SKUNK
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:17:00 - [72] Edited by: Tal Nok on 07/02/2008 20:17:37 Originally by: Le Skunk LOL Yes you most certainly can if you can catch my exploiting alt as he travels around eves low sec gatecamps, using a borked mechanic to render all the muliple genius posting in this thread impotent. SKUNK Sweet, I will just use my interdictor bubbles in low sec with my proper 500 man gate camp at optimal range, so they can't cloak. EDIT: I tried to post in orange, but apparently I don't have the skills too. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 20:21:00 - [73] Edited by: Le Skunk on 07/02/2008 20:21:36 Originally by: Tal Nok Edited by: Tal Nok on 07/02/2008 20:17:37 Originally by: Le Skunk LOL Yes you most certainly can if you can catch my exploiting alt as he travels around eves low sec gatecamps, using a borked mechanic to render all the muliple genius posting in this thread impotent. SKUNK Sweet, I will just use my interdictor bubbles in low sec with my proper 500 man gate camp at optimal range, so they can't cloak. EDIT: I tried to post in orange, but apparently I don't have the skills too. Funniest post in thread :))) SKUNK
Thanos Mortis The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.07 21:11:00 - [74] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Thanos Mortis lol you suck at pirating this badly that you come to the forums to advertise this evasion tactic you're really clueless aren't you!! Its a broken mechanic whether its known by 4 people or 40k people. Also where do you camp ill head there with my alt in a exploiting battlship with bpos in cargohold. SKUNK I don't camp, and if I did it would be in 0.0...still coming? However when I spent the last 6 months+ in a pirate corp(s) specialising in gatecamps amongst other things we never had this problem, so yes, talking with experience I can safely say, you fail. -
Dark Avatar Caldari Ballistic Void	Posted - 2008.02.07 21:15:00 - [75] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 07/02/2008 20:13:35 Edited by: Le Skunk on 07/02/2008 20:12:17 Originally by: DHB WildCat Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: delta phi i love when pirates whine I love it when bears pheer my pvp skills so much they post with alts SKUNK I love when pirate whine too 8). Try 0.0 and this thing we call an interdictor. Meet you there Posting in orange does not make you cool.. it makes you a self important idiot. This evidence is backed up with your post.. which suggests an interdicitor which cannot be used to bubble LOW SEC which is refered to multiple times in this thread. 0.0 is playing eve on easy mode as far as im concerend. Its lazy, requires little skill other then sitting around a collosal bubble without sentry guns to worry about. Its full of self important alliance blowhards whittering on about 'their space'. Ive tried it, it was unchallenging. But whether im in 0.0 or timbucktoo, this mechanic is still broken. SKUNK Skunk, You do make me laugh. You whine about a BS that is capable of evading you. You say 0.0 is playing eve in easy mode. Well, you sir play eve in easy mode. Using a rather lame megathron fitted with smartbombs, and stabbed up to sit on a gate poping frig class ships. Now tell me that isnt eve on easy mode? Back in your hole before you give the rest of us pirates a bad name ! D.A For you, the day I rolled into your system and killed your ace pilots was a most memorable day. For me, it was Tuesday...
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.07 21:45:00 - [76] Originally by: Thanos Mortis However when I spent the last 6 months+ in a pirate corp(s) specialising in gatecamps amongst other things we never had this problem, so yes, talking with experience I can safely say, you fail. This is only recently been an issue which has been so widely used so I can safely say you fail. Put your epeen back in your pants and stop waving it about like it was your national flag. I've never had this problem 6 months ago either, and only recently with the past few weeks has this actually started to become an issue. Unless you've got lady luck in bed with you every night blowing on your dice, you've got roughly 4 seconds before a mwd+cloak BS warps off your gate in low sec, making them invincible until they get to 0.0 where a bubble can be used in which they pop quite quick. Denying the fact that this is an issue is being naive. The next portion is not directly aimed at you, but just as in the other thread, aimed at everyone. Unless your uber with your dictor bubbles in low sec, 500 man proper gate camp surrounding the gate at 12km with 500m between each ship so you have the entire gate enveloped with ships, your not catching a cloak + mwd BS (unless the BS disconnects from eve because the ammount of people surrounding a single gate). I can't tell you how many times 6-7k+ scan res ships are unable to lock targets as they warp away. It's borked either way you look at it. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
Van'Klomp Species 5618 Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.02.07 21:46:00 - [77] OK, this is the bit where I laugh heartily at OP - who is clearly and understandably ****ed at not being able to catch that slow raven. The reason for my laugh - well now there are loads more people who know about this fit - thanks for the info dude Now, rather that moan about it and cry balance, why not simply congratulate the pilot who evaded you on a nice fit and good piloting and move onto your next gank. I would. ------ This is a signature, no?
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:17:00 - [78] Originally by: Thanos Mortis Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Thanos Mortis lol you suck at pirating this badly that you come to the forums to advertise this evasion tactic you're really clueless aren't you!! Its a broken mechanic whether its known by 4 people or 40k people. Also where do you camp ill head there with my alt in a exploiting battlship with bpos in cargohold. SKUNK I don't camp, and if I did it would be in 0.0...still coming? However when I spent the last 6 months+ in a pirate corp(s) specialising in gatecamps amongst other things we never had this problem, so yes, talking with experience I can safely say, you fail. In case you missed the point, I was calling you out to back up your boast you could catch my theoretical exploiting battleship. Now it is revelaed you "dont camp and live in 0.0" ... big suprise. And no i wont be coming to your easy mode 0.0. Your experience in pirate corps 6 months ago means little to this exploit. You have a) trolled b) been called out and left wanting c) provided nothing to this thread apart from posturing. As such.. i bid you leave this thread and get back to your bubble SKUNK
smackmybooty	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:27:00 - [79] Edited by: smackmybooty on 07/02/2008 22:28:00 Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Thanos Mortis Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Thanos Mortis lol you suck at pirating this badly that you come to the forums to advertise this evasion tactic you're really clueless aren't you!! Its a broken mechanic whether its known by 4 people or 40k people. Also where do you camp ill head there with my alt in a exploiting battlship with bpos in cargohold. SKUNK[/quot I don't camp, and if I did it would be in 0.0...still coming? However when I spent the last 6 months+ in a pirate corp(s) specialising in gatecamps amongst other things we never had this problem, so yes, talking with experience I can safely say, you fail. In case you missed the point, I was calling you out to back up your boast you could catch my theoretical exploiting battleship. Now it is revelaed you "dont camp and live in 0.0" ... big suprise. And no i wont be coming to your easy mode 0.0. Your experience in pirate corps 6 months ago means little to this exploit. You have a) trolled b) been called out and left wanting c) provided nothing to this thread apart from posturing. As such.. i bid you leave this thread and get back to your bubble SKUNK god is this guy still whining?
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:31:00 - [80] Edited by: Le Skunk on 07/02/2008 22:32:46 Originally by: Dark Avatar Well, you sir play eve in easy mode. Using a rather lame megathron fitted with smartbombs, and stabbed up to sit on a gate poping frig class ships. Now tell me that isnt eve on easy mode? Back in your hole before you give the rest of us pirates a bad name ! D.A I use a hyperion.. shows how long its been since I popped you. And dont tell me its easy mode, it: provides some of the most adrenalin buzz Ive had in this game enables small corps to strike back at capital ship happy alliances - podding their pilots whilst at their weakest gains great loot squash the overconfident inty pilot (always good for a luagh) The use of the smartbombing BS is entirley in line with EVEs policy of no ship being invunerable anywhere out of dock. Indeed your bringin it up , only higlights the unbalance of the mwdcloak battleship exploit in that if an interceptor can be killed, why not a BS. The killing of small frigates who warp to zero though low sec in smug satisfaction that they will not be able to be caught is particulaly satisfying and incredibly profitable. They are so sure they will not be caught, they carry high value items with them. As for easy mode smartbomber: There have only ever been three close attempts to kill my smartbomber - in reverse order of nearness to success. Once when a mothership was dropped on me (i smartbombed his cyno catalyst and flew away) Once when for ****s and giggles I sat on the gate waiting for a 50 man fleet to warp to the gate so I could pop their interceptor scouts and try to fly off (large adrenalin buzz there) under the noses of their battleships (killed on inty and legged it.. didnt have time for the loot) Once when I was probed out in my safe spot and an arazu put points on me whilst his mates jumped in. Luckily, i had a friend in another smartbomber at a different safespot who warped in at range and chased him off. The smartbomber FINALLY died, when I was solo cloaked at an hostile pos, and waited for a hauler to leave the shields to loot a carrier wreck. At this point I warped in, popped the hauler, and narowly avoided escaping before the enemy lachesis held me down long enough for the pos guns to pop me. Your reference to stabs means little in the world of the heavy interedictor btw. So dont tell me its easy mode, it provides some of the most adrenalin buzz Ive had in this game, whilst enabling me to strike back at capital ship happy alliances, pick up great loot, and squash the overconfident inty pilot SKUNK
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:32:00 - [81] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Thanos Mortis Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Thanos Mortis lol you suck at pirating this badly that you come to the forums to advertise this evasion tactic you're really clueless aren't you!! Its a broken mechanic whether its known by 4 people or 40k people. Also where do you camp ill head there with my alt in a exploiting battlship with bpos in cargohold. SKUNK I don't camp, and if I did it would be in 0.0...still coming? However when I spent the last 6 months+ in a pirate corp(s) specialising in gatecamps amongst other things we never had this problem, so yes, talking with experience I can safely say, you fail. In case you missed the point, I was calling you out to back up your boast you could catch my theoretical exploiting battleship. Now it is revelaed you "dont camp and live in 0.0" ... big suprise. And no i wont be coming to your easy mode 0.0. Your experience in pirate corps 6 months ago means little to this exploit. You have a) trolled b) been called out and left wanting c) provided nothing to this thread apart from posturing. As such.. i bid you leave this thread and get back to your bubble SKUNK Skunk, if you only want to play with trolls, that's fine, but don't expect serious players to take your complaint seriously if you do. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.07 22:34:00 - [82] Originally by: Malcanis Skunk, if you only want to play with trolls, that's fine, but don't expect serious players to take your complaint seriously if you do. How does me offering to run my exploing mwdcloak alt past a blowhards gatecamp constitute me "playing with a troll". Indeed if you read my post I expressly ask the troll to leave the thread.. the direct oppostie of what you suggest. SKUNK
Tal Nok Amarr DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.02.08 00:04:00 - [83] Originally by: Malcanis Skunk, if you only want to play with trolls, that's fine, but don't expect serious players to take your complaint seriously if you do. Pyramid quoting is against forum rules, stop that, it hurts the eyes. Besides, SERIOUS players don't pyramid quote, in fact they are too SERIOUS to be using the forums, they are being SERIOUS players in game. 3rd note, you obviously haven't read but maybe 2 or three of the actual posts here before you through up what my dog ate for dinner as a post. Let us know when these SERIOUS players are about so I can point and laugh. Don't be afraid of admitting that you know this whole **bang with the mwd+cloak is borked. Are you a SERIOUS player? I didn't think SERIOUS players wrote junk like this. I thought they were more refined, intellectual, and more appealing overall, and smack everytime they loose a ship to me, like those SMASH guys. Now they, are very SERIOUS players. Originally by:** CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice. Originally by: hellsknights It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.02.08 01:15:00 - [84] To Tal Noc and Skunk, 1. Have you ever heard of Burn Eden? 2. If so you know our largest gang is about 5. We rutinely engage heavily outnumbered against people flying ships that fight back. 3. Also if you think having a hyperion, mega, abbadon, and geddon on a gate at 0, all remote repping each other while trying to gank a single raven; is eve on hard mode..... Then you are honestly one of the worst pirates ever. Especially sense you cant catch that raven lol. Anyhow I will bow out here, but of you are so concerned about 0.0 then I suggest you run missions, because low sec seems a little hard for you lol. WildCat
Sslinger Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.08 01:18:00 - [85] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Sslinger If I repeat someone elses comment I opologise. I couldnt stomach to read the whole thing. It is my experience that merely attempting to target someone will prevent them from cloaking. You dont actually have to be locked. So it wont really matter the number of sensor boosters. Aslo someone mentioned above that you could hit "approach" in your inteceptor, but speed would reduce to zero once the ship cloaked..the counter for this is immediately after hitting the max speed button after hitting approach An interceptor with 6k scan res CANNOT lock the ship using this trick. All you get is a repeated 'start of lock' sequence before lock breaks. Thi hitting max speed button dose not work particulaly well as EVEs borked "water like" space physics, dip the nose of your interceptor down as if it is plughing through a wall of water. So when you have clicked max speed your heading off alignment. SKUNK SKUNK What I specifically said was...you dont have to be locked onto the target in order for the cloak to fail....you merely have to be attempting to target. Once the little orange brackets start flashing indicating that someone is starting the target process, your cloak will no longer function
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.02.08 01:58:00 - [86] Originally by: DHB WildCat Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: delta phi i love when pirates whine I love it when bears pheer my pvp skills so much they post with alts SKUNK I love when pirate whine too 8). Try 0.0 and this thing we call an interdictor. Meet you there I fly an interdictor in lowsec, why do I need to try 0.0? Guess I won't be meeting you there And orange is lame. ------------ Originally by: Praxis1452 you win eve
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 02:03:00 - [87] Originally by: DHB WildCat To Tal Noc and Skunk, 1. Have you ever heard of Burn Eden? 2. If so you know our largest gang is about 5. We rutinely engage heavily outnumbered against people flying ships that fight back. 3. Also if you think having a hyperion, mega, abbadon, and geddon on a gate at 0, all remote repping each other while trying to gank a single raven; is eve on hard mode..... Then you are honestly one of the worst pirates ever. Especially sense you cant catch that raven lol. Anyhow I will bow out here, but of you are so concerned about 0.0 then I suggest you run missions, because low sec seems a little hard for you lol. WildCat Wow so your not only a troll.. your a pompus troll as well. You remind me of an outraged z list celeb after being refused entrance to the vip area of a tacky nightclub.. "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM" Your contribution to this thread has been.... absolutly nothing. So you think flying in 0.0 with no sentry guns and a interdictor bubble is big wowzerness do you? No worrys about multiple dedicated tacklers support ships, remote sensor boosting, sentry gun fire, station aggro, concord on the other side of the gate. You may fly in 5 man gangs, but the very nature of 0.0 means you dont need the numbers you do in low sec as it is so easy to operate out there. Also, your 5 man gangs seem to be ganking a n awfull lot of solo ship out there in 0.0 ... seems you are not looking very hard for them fights where you are "heavily outnumbered" Also seriously stop using orange text it makes you look pretentious. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.02.08 02:04:00 - [88] Originally by: Sslinger What I specifically said was...you dont have to be locked onto the target in order for the cloak to fail....you merely have to be attempting to target. Once the little orange brackets start flashing indicating that someone is starting the target process, your cloak will no longer function No it dosent work. As i have said, we have tested this with an interceptor with 6k scan res and you cannot lock the ship to stop it cloaking. Thanks for the positive ideas though. SKUNK
Fourty Niner	Posted - 2008.02.08 03:29:00 - [89] Edited by: Fourty Niner on 08/02/2008 03:30:22 1) This is (apparently) an easy way to "nearly" always avoid a low-sec gate camp 2) Which if you are NOT a pirate, is better than the "Impossible" to escape gate camp situation 3) There are loads of threads saying "Make low sec more profitable" or "Make Empire space less profitable" so that more ppl will come to low sec 4) Now that I know that its possible to avoid a gate camp, Im going to visit Low sec more often (And not just in my Firetail), as I assume others will 5) The "instawarp" from station, doesnt stop station camps, (and to be honest we have spent weeks trying to get our noob members to instawarp, and they still mess it up more often than not), or mean no kills 6) I bet it doesnt even really work, and its a cunning plan by you pirates to get ppl to come to low sec 7) Yes I am posting with an Alt, cos frankly, I can do without getting a WAR dec just because someone takes offence at a forum post
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.08 04:47:00 - [90] Edited by: Malcanis on 08/02/2008 04:47:43 Originally by: Tal Nok Stuff I hope his parole officer doesn't see Calm down. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

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