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Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:30:00 -
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CCP Diagoras wrote:Come on guys, be nice to Affinity. You're making her bitter and angry! She's just trying to help
I am trying to be nice :D if I were to speak my mind 100% I would get banned :P But even you CCP's must admit its been a long time overdue on these issues. Along side the overview patch today... in comparison... thats just more wood on the fire on this topic :P |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:33:00 -
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Lord Okinaba wrote:If drones aren't fixed in time for the Winter update then you clearly don't have your priorities in order. Drones have been broke for far too long. They are one of, if not THE most used weapon system in the game and they've been broke for going on 5 months now, heck, it's took you that long to acknowledge there was a problem. The least you can do now that you have recreated and identified the problem is make it one of your top priorities to fix it.
You may aswell hold production on those EWAR drones until this issue is fixed at least. Gonna be a waste of friggin time otherwise!
Had to like this one too :D |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:56:00 -
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God bless the HP-button.
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Svaste
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.25 20:48:00 -
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CCP Affinity wrote:We are still working on this :) We have uncovered an issue, as I mentioned, it is not by design.. but it's going to take more than 3 days to fix and deploy this :)
I'm glad you have been on this for three days. I'll take your coment as confirmation that CCP Greyscale did nothing what-so-ever as we suspected. (oh he was at a conference for one week out of the 15 weeks that drones have been broken)
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Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.26 05:58:00 -
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Just noticed some claims of sisi datamined stats on the forums.
Actuall T2 drone items YAY!! now give us implants too :D Also some nice changes to hybrids/gallente ships... If these are true its perfect.
Only thing missing now is the drone fix, or atleast that a fix have been found. Annoying being in limbo in terms of staying in my drone boat or change to hybrid gun boat, will depend on the fix if its 1-2 months away or 6 months... |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.26 06:07:00 -
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CCP Diagoras wrote:Come on guys, be nice to Affinity. You're making her bitter and angry! She's just trying to help
This sounds like a man that tries to preserve the office peace. Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here.. |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.26 06:24:00 -
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Nyio wrote:CCP Diagoras wrote:Come on guys, be nice to Affinity. You're making her bitter and angry! She's just trying to help This sounds like a man that tries to preserve the office peace.
LOVE!!! |
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CCP Diagoras
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.26 09:07:00 -
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My role is simply to serve. Now, let us all be nice to Affinity. She's got a tough job to get done! Without these lovely QA people we'd find ourselves in a bit of a pickle. CCP Diagoras |
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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.26 09:17:00 -
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CCP Diagoras wrote:My role is simply to serve. Now, let us all be nice to Affinity. She's got a tough job to get done! Without these lovely QA people we'd find ourselves in a bit of a pickle. Remember, the best we can manage is EvE nice. I'm sure almost everyone appreciates her, but we have been trained through a bizarre series of trials and experiments to exploit any and every weakness we perceive. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Neo Agricola
Anti Boon Fraktion
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Posted - 2011.10.26 09:50:00 -
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Nice they are working on Drones. Perhaps they will fix "Focus Fire" also... |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.26 10:24:00 -
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Svaste wrote:CCP Affinity wrote:We are still working on this :) We have uncovered an issue, as I mentioned, it is not by design.. but it's going to take more than 3 days to fix and deploy this :) I'm glad you have been on this for three days. I'll take your coment as confirmation that CCP Greyscale did nothing what-so-ever as we suspected. (oh he was at a conference for one week out of the 15 weeks that drones have been broken)
"we" being BFF and Greyscale is on BFF and worked on this with me. CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.26 10:49:00 -
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CCP Affinity wrote:Svaste wrote:CCP Affinity wrote:We are still working on this :) We have uncovered an issue, as I mentioned, it is not by design.. but it's going to take more than 3 days to fix and deploy this :) I'm glad you have been on this for three days. I'll take your coment as confirmation that CCP Greyscale did nothing what-so-ever as we suspected. (oh he was at a conference for one week out of the 15 weeks that drones have been broken) "we" being BFF and Greyscale is on BFF and worked on this with me.
Easy tiger... :D :D I wish you all the best but, as said before, try looking at if from our point of view... Yes its great you have started but this issue needs to get on double time. its one of the core weapon systems in EVE and its broken... ( has been for a huge amount of time ) |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.26 12:13:00 -
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Quote:
"we" being BFF and Greyscale is on BFF and worked on this with me.
Quote: Easy tiger... :D :D I wish you all the best but, as said before, try looking at if from our point of view... Yes its great you have started but this issue needs to get on double time. its one of the core weapon systems in EVE and its broken... ( has been for a huge amount of time )
I completely get why you are annoyed. I was just reiterating what I had previously stated, that the entire team have taken on this issue :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.26 12:50:00 -
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Here is me hoping you 3 are spending 100% of your time on this :D :D :D :D |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.26 12:54:00 -
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*hugs CCP Affinity and applies some duct tape around her ears and eyes to prevent further brain damage this thread would cause* It is better this way... You may look bit funny but you thank me later. Try not to take those off before Xmas. Everything will be all right .)
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FIRST GENERAL
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.10.26 12:58:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:Here is me hoping you 3 are spending 100% of your time on this :D :D :D :D
No need to repeat yourself so much. We all get that this is important for you.
Let's show some love for team BFF and CCP Affinity instead:
Great 2 way communication going on here +1
Great incremental information +1
CCP Affinity +1
Keep up the good work guys and fingers crossed to get this into the winter expansion. |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.26 13:06:00 -
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FIRST GENERAL wrote:Vaako Horizon wrote:Here is me hoping you 3 are spending 100% of your time on this :D :D :D :D No need to repeat yourself so much. We all get that this is important for you. Let's show some love for team BFF and CCP Affinity instead: Great 2 way communication going on here +1 Great incremental information +1 CCP Affinity +1 Keep up the good work guys and fingers crossed to get this into the winter expansion.
If CCP really did understand any of us it would have been done a long time ago... I'll admit myself wrong when they prove me wrong, talking is easy ( as you might have noticed from me :D ) |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.26 13:06:00 -
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+1 every good dev post you see, easiest way to show we support what they are saying.
Plus, surely the performance reviews cover the number of forum likes they get, so maybe we can get them a raise! o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Par'Gellen
Neon Cranium
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Posted - 2011.10.26 15:39:00 -
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THANK YOU CCP! I'm so glad you guys are working on this! I love you!
I've played since 2003 and have seen this issue since the first time I ever used drones. I just got into the habit of holding down the Attack Target key (I assigned it to F9) for several seconds each time I need drones to go after something else otherwise they would split up and go around doing their own thing.
Thank you again for addressing this! I cannot tell you how happy it makes me! |
Jiska Ensa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.26 16:08:00 -
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Dunno if you guys tracked it down but I'll throw my experiences in:
Thanatos carrier, Class 3 wormhole, using Bouncer II's (12 of them, but it happened with 11 as well I believe. I never really used them before that, but I did used to use them on a Dominix, at considerably closer range (so Garde II's) and don't recall it happening) on the Outpost Frontier Strongholds. Warp in is about 45 to 55 km from the Argos turret guns.
Bouncers's typically start firing on the turrets as soon as they aggro me and do well usually until they start on the second or third. At that point, they often decide to attack the battleship instead of another turret. If I order them to attack a turret, they will do so for a moment, then several (if not most) will switch back to the battleship while some will continue attacking the turret.
I've never had this problem with fighters, nor hammerheads or hobgoblins. My best guess is that it's unique to sentry drones and somehow aggravated by the ship having to control so many, but that's just a guess. |
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Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.26 17:06:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:*hugs CCP Affinity and applies some duct tape around her ears and eyes to prevent further brain damage this thread would cause* It is better this way... You may look bit funny but you thank me later. Try not to take those off before Xmas. Everything will be all right .)
Wow that was fast! Looks like you may have done that a few times before.. Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here.. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.26 17:24:00 -
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Nyio wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:*hugs CCP Affinity and applies some duct tape around her ears and eyes to prevent further brain damage this thread would cause* It is better this way... You may look bit funny but you thank me later. Try not to take those off before Xmas. Everything will be all right .) Wow that was fast! Looks like you may have done that a few times before.. Never leave home without duct tape and healthy amount of imagination.
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bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.27 07:06:00 -
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Keep up the good work team BFF, just remember how drones "worked" back in apocrypha. There was the occasional AI slip-up where focus fire wasn't enforced but when they were all on the same target they fired in UNISON like grouped weapons do (or did before the new turrets and I wish they still did all fire at the exact same time since all the damage is applied the same anyways). As they are now they are in comparison much like un-grouped weapons and their "volley damage" is gone making elite frigs harder to kill. When a target is destroyed there should not be one drone leading the charge so to speak as the others seemingly get their orders to attack at different rates, all drones should engage at the exact same time as they did in apocrypha meaning they all arrive on target at the same time and begin firing at the same time, I want to see my drones taking "hunks" of HP from my targets as they used to in the days of old not pecking at them like they do currently. I understand the problems with drones going idle during attacks, splitting targets and generally goofing off on the job are more important than what I'm talking about but I feel like what I'm describing was the originally intended functionality of drones, to work as a SOLID unit and not as just closely packed individuals. So from the bottom of my battle hardened heart I thank you Team BFF for taking a serious look into this and I hope you beat and scold the drones VIGOROUSLY until they fall in line. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2011.10.27 08:35:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Just spent an hour poking at this and totally failing to get a reproduction for drones switching targets. Tried with Hammerheads, Gardes and Ogres, tried issuing target orders just before, just after, and a second after the target died, and even tried hacking the Ogres to have a10s RoF to see if that'd help. In all cases they're working as advertised (focus fire and aggressive).
Obviously this problem is still happening in the wild, but it doesn't seem to be reproducing on our internal test servers which makes it somewhat difficult to track down. I'll try and give it another poke later in the week and see if I can find anything more, but right now I don't have a whole lot to go on :(
When it decides to exhibit the behavior you will know.
I think I has to do with firing cycles, but you have to get your drone set firing on different rotations in the case of sentries. Once you do if you kill a target with gun, 3 drones will swap to the assigned target and the other two will shoot at whatever they want (usually something you don't want them shooting at) In race cases I've had the ENTIRE set actually change to the desired target and switch off to whatever random thing got on their to-do list.
...and it's usually repeatable until you force a session change.
Also a question, are drones seriously supposed to be trigger hunter killers? I seriously let my drone ferret out the triggers when you have multiples of one name and you don't know which is which. It rarely fails. |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.28 14:15:00 -
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bumpie |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:02:00 -
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Vaako Horizon wrote:bumpie why?
Devs are working on it, lets not harass them.
Or has this just turned into an attention grab for you? o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:38:00 -
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He is going a little overboard but I kind of understand his frustrations, these bugs have been around in less severe form for years even before I started playing back in late 2009. At least this thread is getting some dev love unlike the bugs reported in the issues threads that have been reported over and over again without even a single dev response. Bugs such as bookmarks in solar system map not showing their range in AU from your ship, being occluded by beacons and other icons and probes losing their labels. There are so many bugs that get reported in the issues thread and seemingly ignored that I sometimes want to rant and cuss at people who are just doing their jobs, so while he is out of line it's understandable. |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.28 19:50:00 -
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bongpacks wrote:He is going a little overboard but I kind of understand his frustrations, these bugs have been around in less severe form for years even before I started playing back in late 2009. At least this thread is getting some dev love unlike the bugs reported in the issues threads that have been reported over and over again without even a single dev response. Bugs such as bookmarks in solar system map not showing their range in AU from your ship, being occluded by beacons and other icons and probes losing their labels. There are so many bugs that get reported in the issues thread and seemingly ignored that I sometimes want to rant and cuss at people who are just doing their jobs, so while he is out of line it's understandable.
And all of you should look at the bright side, while I might be somewhat over the top I have not gone all out... ( mostly due to actuall responce from devs ) Just want to keep the focus on this so that devs dont get stuck on something else. atleast I am honest enough to admit it :D |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
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Posted - 2011.10.28 19:55:00 -
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And if I wanted attention I whould go to general and make a thread about nerfing null :D ( aka flame wars ftw :D ) |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.28 20:18:00 -
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Understand the frustration, been gallente my whole eve carreer til I final broke and crosstrained a couple months ago. But I want to be sure we are distracting them, or making them think we feel entitled ;) o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
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