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Serious Masta
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Posted - 2004.05.26 06:15:00 - [121]

@T'el'Alana Luathin: sorry, but 10 million isk its a too high price for me...
im a realy fan of your sheet, but this is too much for me :(

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Serious Masta
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Posted - 2004.05.26 06:15:00 - [122]

@T'el'Alana Luathin: sorry, but 10 million isk its a too high price for me...
im a realy fan of your sheet, but this is too much for me :(

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T'el'Alana Luathin
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Posted - 2004.05.26 15:17:00 - [123]

Mari:

The source of the data wishes not to be disclosed, but I did get it off original BPs (on chaos, he didn't trust me enough with it on tranquility, don't know why ^_^). I did not get it off your sheet (tempted though I was). I wanted it to be my own work, and to calm my paranoia about any errors, that's why I needed to see the original bp for myself.

On the wastage thing, u sure? The current bp has ME 10 already. I'll check and make it better, thanks for the heads up.

When I do the named loot I'll use the refine item thingy.

Serious Masta: Sad to hear that man. It's not more than maybe a few hours worth of chaining, so it's not terribly expensive. If you let me know a few things via e-mail, I might give you a discount.

Things I want to know:
1) What kind of ships do you fly?
2) In what order do you make ISK ingame; trader, manufacturer, miner, hauler, fighter, researcher, BP-copy maker, agent-runner (if you don't do one of them, then omit it from the list, or if I forgot a way to make isk, put it in there)? What ships do you use for each type of ISK-gaining the most?
3) Could you list the fitting on your main ISK-gaining method (the more info the better)?
4) What parts of the old sheet do you use the most?
5) Are you using it for your independent efforts, or do you use it for the corp?
6) Do you create/trade tech 2 equipment, or are you interested in creating/trading tech 2 equipment?
7) What is your current budget with which your willing to invest in the new sheet?
8) are you willing to answer future questions so I could make the sheet even better for yourself?

E-mail me the answers to [email protected] and I'll give you a discount.

Anyone else who wants a discount (or wants to help me develop this further) can do the same.

T.
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T'el'Alana Luathin
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Posted - 2004.05.26 15:17:00 - [124]

Mari:

The source of the data wishes not to be disclosed, but I did get it off original BPs (on chaos, he didn't trust me enough with it on tranquility, don't know why ^_^). I did not get it off your sheet (tempted though I was). I wanted it to be my own work, and to calm my paranoia about any errors, that's why I needed to see the original bp for myself.

On the wastage thing, u sure? The current bp has ME 10 already. I'll check and make it better, thanks for the heads up.

When I do the named loot I'll use the refine item thingy.

Serious Masta: Sad to hear that man. It's not more than maybe a few hours worth of chaining, so it's not terribly expensive. If you let me know a few things via e-mail, I might give you a discount.

Things I want to know:
1) What kind of ships do you fly?
2) In what order do you make ISK ingame; trader, manufacturer, miner, hauler, fighter, researcher, BP-copy maker, agent-runner (if you don't do one of them, then omit it from the list, or if I forgot a way to make isk, put it in there)? What ships do you use for each type of ISK-gaining the most?
3) Could you list the fitting on your main ISK-gaining method (the more info the better)?
4) What parts of the old sheet do you use the most?
5) Are you using it for your independent efforts, or do you use it for the corp?
6) Do you create/trade tech 2 equipment, or are you interested in creating/trading tech 2 equipment?
7) What is your current budget with which your willing to invest in the new sheet?
8) are you willing to answer future questions so I could make the sheet even better for yourself?

E-mail me the answers to [email protected] and I'll give you a discount.

Anyone else who wants a discount (or wants to help me develop this further) can do the same.

T.
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Serious Masta
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Posted - 2004.05.27 12:41:00 - [125]

u got mail from me!

[email protected]

(xx = spam protection)Wink

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Serious Masta
Serious Masta
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Posted - 2004.05.27 12:41:00 - [126]

u got mail from me!

[email protected]

(xx = spam protection)Wink

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Nikkoli
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Posted - 2004.05.29 02:05:00 - [127]

You've got mail from me too...

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Nikkoli
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Posted - 2004.05.29 02:05:00 - [128]

You've got mail from me too...

[email protected]
T'el'Alana Luathin
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Posted - 2004.06.01 01:36:00 - [129]

Edited by: T'el'Alana Luathin on 01/06/2004 01:40:33
Hi there all who are interested in my new sheet.

I've been getting very interesting e-mails, which have told me alot about what I should price the sheet.

First, average players don't have alot of money. Or alot of time to be making money.

..That's about it ;)

I was then thinking of a new solution:
1)
lower the price for an individual from 10 million down to 2 million.

2)
If you get more than 4 people total to buy the sheet with you, you'll get a discount of 500.000 isk per person.
If you get more than 8 people total to buy the sheet, You'll get a discount of 800.000 per person.
If you get more than 12 people total to buy the sheet, you'll get a discount of 1.100.000 isk.
20 people, discount: 1.300.000 isk. more than 20, by negotiation.

3) Those who have donated for the old sheet will get that donation minused off the 2 mil for the new sheet and a 20% extra off what's left.

Examples:
Guy1 gets the sheet by himself, Price for guy 1: 2 million isk.

Guy 1 gets 3 other guys to buy the sheet with him, Price for guy 1: 1,5 million isk

Guy 1 gets 7 other guys to buy the sheet with him, Price for guy 1: 1,2 million isk.

Guy gets 11 other guys to buy the sheet with him, Price for guy 1: 0,9 million isk.

Let's say Guy 1 already donated 1 million isk for the beta 7 sheet. If he gets 7 other guys with him, he'll get the new sheet for 160.000 isk.

However, Guy 1 is the one who has to collect the e-mails for all the other guys (not that hard a task) and also collect the money from the other guys and send to me the whole sum (maybe a bit harder task) plus the e-mails.

(Of course, guy 1 could be smart, and let the other pay a part of his share for getting everyone such a great discount *nudge*nudge*)

What do you think of that? I'm still open to negotiations.

A few reasons why I don't just let the sheet be for free:
1) EVE is very much about value.. buying and selling between players.
2) This was alot of hard work.. time taken away from EVE-ing :P
3) I wanted to offer people something really great and simple.. A sheet which goes beyond a few simple formulas and really crunches data to give you optimised way of EVE-ing, and I can justify that if people are willing to reward those efforts of mine by helping me out with my EVE-ing.
4) I truly feel that the new sheet will be alot of help, and you will get your money back (in actual isk or in time) within 2-4 weeks with the new pricing.
5) You will be encouraging me to do an ultimate sheet for ship-fitting, which will have the same user-interface philosophy, and will give you an in-depth look on how to fit a ship for optimum usage, and of course have all the modules available in-game as selectable.

Let me know what you think :)

T.
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T'el'Alana Luathin
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Posted - 2004.06.01 01:36:00 - [130]

Edited by: T'el'Alana Luathin on 01/06/2004 01:40:33
Hi there all who are interested in my new sheet.

I've been getting very interesting e-mails, which have told me alot about what I should price the sheet.

First, average players don't have alot of money. Or alot of time to be making money.

..That's about it ;)

I was then thinking of a new solution:
1)
lower the price for an individual from 10 million down to 2 million.

2)
If you get more than 4 people total to buy the sheet with you, you'll get a discount of 500.000 isk per person.
If you get more than 8 people total to buy the sheet, You'll get a discount of 800.000 per person.
If you get more than 12 people total to buy the sheet, you'll get a discount of 1.100.000 isk.
20 people, discount: 1.300.000 isk. more than 20, by negotiation.

3) Those who have donated for the old sheet will get that donation minused off the 2 mil for the new sheet and a 20% extra off what's left.

Examples:
Guy1 gets the sheet by himself, Price for guy 1: 2 million isk.

Guy 1 gets 3 other guys to buy the sheet with him, Price for guy 1: 1,5 million isk

Guy 1 gets 7 other guys to buy the sheet with him, Price for guy 1: 1,2 million isk.

Guy gets 11 other guys to buy the sheet with him, Price for guy 1: 0,9 million isk.

Let's say Guy 1 already donated 1 million isk for the beta 7 sheet. If he gets 7 other guys with him, he'll get the new sheet for 160.000 isk.

However, Guy 1 is the one who has to collect the e-mails for all the other guys (not that hard a task) and also collect the money from the other guys and send to me the whole sum (maybe a bit harder task) plus the e-mails.

(Of course, guy 1 could be smart, and let the other pay a part of his share for getting everyone such a great discount *nudge*nudge*)

What do you think of that? I'm still open to negotiations.

A few reasons why I don't just let the sheet be for free:
1) EVE is very much about value.. buying and selling between players.
2) This was alot of hard work.. time taken away from EVE-ing :P
3) I wanted to offer people something really great and simple.. A sheet which goes beyond a few simple formulas and really crunches data to give you optimised way of EVE-ing, and I can justify that if people are willing to reward those efforts of mine by helping me out with my EVE-ing.
4) I truly feel that the new sheet will be alot of help, and you will get your money back (in actual isk or in time) within 2-4 weeks with the new pricing.
5) You will be encouraging me to do an ultimate sheet for ship-fitting, which will have the same user-interface philosophy, and will give you an in-depth look on how to fit a ship for optimum usage, and of course have all the modules available in-game as selectable.

Let me know what you think :)

T.
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.06.01 13:28:00 - [131]

Hey T'el'Alana,

I've donated before, but I'll gladly shell out another 2million for the new sheet when it's done.

I can see there's a lot of work involved in the initial version and it sounds like the new version will have a whole host of cool new features that I'll make use of.


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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.06.01 13:28:00 - [132]

Hey T'el'Alana,

I've donated before, but I'll gladly shell out another 2million for the new sheet when it's done.

I can see there's a lot of work involved in the initial version and it sounds like the new version will have a whole host of cool new features that I'll make use of.
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AtoningUnifex
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:33:00 - [133]

Edited by: AtoningUnifex on 03/06/2004 15:03:49
I notice on the screenshots that you are missing a few T2 items:

R.A.M. Ammunition.
R.A.M. Robotics.
R.A.M. Weapon Tech.
R.Db Carthum Conglomerate.
R.Db Roden Shipyards.

I've only had a quick look at the beta version, but what I saw looks good.
Any deals for a corp to buy the final version?

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AtoningUnifex
AtoningUnifex
Gallente

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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:33:00 - [134]

Edited by: AtoningUnifex on 03/06/2004 15:03:49
I notice on the screenshots that you are missing a few T2 items:

R.A.M. Ammunition.
R.A.M. Robotics.
R.A.M. Weapon Tech.
R.Db Carthum Conglomerate.
R.Db Roden Shipyards.

I've only had a quick look at the beta version, but what I saw looks good.
Any deals for a corp to buy the final version?

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Collector and flyer of starships
T'el'Alana Luathin
T'el'Alana Luathin

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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:46:00 - [135]

Thanks for the heads up.

No problem in getting a whole corp a deal. Let's talk about it via eve-mail.

T.
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T'el'Alana Luathin
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:46:00 - [136]

Thanks for the heads up.

No problem in getting a whole corp a deal. Let's talk about it via eve-mail.

T.
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Warpchylde
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Posted - 2004.06.05 20:43:00 - [137]


Great tool, TŠelŠAlana. Been trying to get you in-game, but having problems with that name.

I would be interested to buy this, if you can contact me in-game.

Thanks,

Warp
Warpchylde
Warpchylde
Gallente

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Posted - 2004.06.05 20:43:00 - [138]


Great tool, TŠelŠAlana. Been trying to get you in-game, but having problems with that name.

I would be interested to buy this, if you can contact me in-game.

Thanks,

Warp
T'el'Alana Luathin
T'el'Alana Luathin

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Posted - 2004.06.08 11:59:00 - [139]

Finally have the last bp batch which I was waiting for.. will do last tests tonight and then things should be ready.

T.
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T'el'Alana Luathin
T'el'Alana Luathin

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Posted - 2004.06.08 11:59:00 - [140]

Finally have the last bp batch which I was waiting for.. will do last tests tonight and then things should be ready.

T.
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.06.11 15:25:00 - [141]

is it ready?? huh huh is it is it?

BTW your forgot elite mining drones in B7
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Mr Ratty
Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.06.11 15:25:00 - [142]

is it ready?? huh huh is it is it?

BTW your forgot elite mining drones in B7
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Reva Ortov
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Posted - 2004.06.13 15:24:00 - [143]

Yes is it ready yet? Very Happy
Reva Ortov
Reva Ortov
Net-7 Inc.

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Posted - 2004.06.13 15:24:00 - [144]

Yes is it ready yet? Very Happy
T'el'Alana Luathin
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Posted - 2004.06.14 23:03:00 - [145]

hehe, first customer served :)

I can't guarantee that there won't be any problems, that's why I'm holding off the big announcement.. but if you send me the 2 mil + your e-mail in the description.. u might be number 2 :) I want to see how people react to the sheet before making any guarantees or statements.

T.
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T'el'Alana Luathin
T'el'Alana Luathin

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Posted - 2004.06.14 23:03:00 - [146]

hehe, first customer served :)

I can't guarantee that there won't be any problems, that's why I'm holding off the big announcement.. but if you send me the 2 mil + your e-mail in the description.. u might be number 2 :) I want to see how people react to the sheet before making any guarantees or statements.

T.
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Towtruck
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Posted - 2004.06.15 05:42:00 - [147]

I am interested in getting the finished version of this. The beta version is great ... I can only imagine the revised one will be even better.


Towtruck
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Minmatar
Celtic industries
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate

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Posted - 2004.06.15 05:42:00 - [148]

I am interested in getting the finished version of this. The beta version is great ... I can only imagine the revised one will be even better.


Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.06.19 19:53:00 - [149]

i have the finished, couple of small bits didnt seem to work, but i'm sure they will be fixed fast :)
it's a bloody amazing sheet, i've only just grazed the surface, but half my corp is after it, hopw to hear about corp rate soon Very Happy

i'll give it 999 out of 1000 (i preffer green to red colours, so i had to mark it down)

seriously, if your a miner/builder, pays your 2 mill, you'll not regret it.
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Mr Ratty
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Posted - 2004.06.19 19:53:00 - [150]

i have the finished, couple of small bits didnt seem to work, but i'm sure they will be fixed fast :)
it's a bloody amazing sheet, i've only just grazed the surface, but half my corp is after it, hopw to hear about corp rate soon Very Happy

i'll give it 999 out of 1000 (i preffer green to red colours, so i had to mark it down)

seriously, if your a miner/builder, pays your 2 mill, you'll not regret it.
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