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Volir
Deep Space HVAC
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Posted - 2008.02.29 19:56:00 -
[181]
Maybe the empire huggers should surrender? What are the Goon's terms?
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.29 20:29:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Ron Bacardi I think we're all being pro-trolled.
I'd prefer to think that than believe someone really is that dense.
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Oracle Platon
MAFIA
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Posted - 2008.02.29 20:59:00 -
[183]
In this case it should be some kind of bounty system. You should be able to put a bounty on him, and bountyhunters would be able to hunt him in high sec also, catch him and kill him for the crimes he have done.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.01 00:21:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Volir Maybe the empire huggers should surrender? What are the Goon's terms?
Noobships!!!! We need noobships!!!!!!
Originally by: Avaricia look a goon lol
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xG3N0CiDEx
X Bane X
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Posted - 2008.03.01 00:55:00 -
[185]
lololololol whiners are so amusing... even tho i didnt finish reading ur crybaby post..
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Shadow Joy
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Posted - 2008.03.01 01:49:00 -
[186]
Looks like the op had a small chimp moment.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.01 03:50:00 -
[187]
lulz only read through the first 3 pages... i bet my pod killing laser that op is a goon alt
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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2008.03.01 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Agor Dirdonen on 01/03/2008 11:40:54 I actually wonder what you really do in the game to enjoy it. I mean, everything you do, everything has an effect on another player (ok, there's one exception).
You mine roids? You remove potential ore for another player. You buy a module on the market? Another player eventually will have to pay a higher price for the same module as what you paid. You shoot npc rats? Somebody else cannot shoot them anymore. ...
These are REAL people that are put to a disadvantage by YOU. They pay their account with REAL money, try to spend REAL time in the game.
So if you want to play a true singleplayer game in Eve, what actually do you do that doesn't effect another player? You can only do courier missions or killmissions in your rookie ship as that is the only thing you can use (remember, buying 'anything' on the market has a negative impact on at least one other player).
If you really want to play a singleplayer game where your actions have no effect on any other player, go play on the Test Server... really. It is reset every so often so any damage you did to other players is removed again by the system itself.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.01 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 01/03/2008 12:27:13 Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 01/03/2008 12:25:32
Originally by: Agor Dirdonen Edited by: Agor Dirdonen on 01/03/2008 11:40:54 I actually wonder what you really do in the game to enjoy it.
Already answered that question, go read, it's in this thread.
Originally by: Agor Dirdonen I mean, everything you do, everything has an effect on another player (ok, there's one exception).
You mine roids? You remove potential ore for another player. You buy a module on the market? Another player eventually will have to pay a higher price for the same module as what you paid. You shoot npc rats? Somebody else cannot shoot them anymore. ...
Where I am, most of the roids survive till next respawn anyway. If I don't buy stuff from other players, maybe it doesn't sell at all, and the seller has to lower his price and thus makes less money. Also, that is compensated by me selling stuff for any price, and traders making a profit off that. I don't rat.
Originally by: Agor Dirdonen These are REAL people that are put to a disadvantage by YOU. They pay their account with REAL money, try to spend REAL time in the game.
So if you want to play a true singleplayer game in Eve, what actually do you do that doesn't effect another player? You can only do courier missions or killmissions in your rookie ship as that is the only thing you can use (remember, buying 'anything' on the market has a negative impact on at least one other player).
If you really want to play a singleplayer game where your actions have no effect on any other player, go play on the Test Server... really. It is reset every so often so any damage you did to other players is removed again by the system itself.
I never said I want Eve as singleplayer game, I said I play it as a singleplayer game. I never said I don't want to deal with people in any way, just that my current playstyle is a playstyle that passively avoids them. You think I'm actively avoiding, I'm not.
Do you want an honest answer? You're just a stupid person not worth writing a lengthy reply for.
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.03.01 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah You're just a stupid person not worth writing a lengthy reply for.
Pretty delicious irony right there.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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D4RK 0NE
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Posted - 2008.03.01 18:23:00 -
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i tried to find some cheese for your whine,but the mice had eaten it..
guess ill go looking for you instead
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.01 18:34:00 -
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The only whiners are you criminals, who stubbornly refuse to accept the fact that law enforcement isn't *****ing down hard enough on you, and that it is a logical, realistic and proportional response when Concord and the insurance companies take drastic steps to stop you parasiting scum.
So far, I have not heard any reasonable counter to my arguments: * void insurance upon Concord involvement in ship destruction * increase standing penalty for highsec ship/pod destruction
Actually it would be more realistic to: * make highsec offenders pay for the insurance costs of their victims
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.01 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah The only whiners are you criminals,
So this thread and the hundreds others like it whining about their precious pixels being blown up, were created by pirates?
You have failed on so many levels so far, now your memory has failed too
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.01 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sekhmet Orion
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah The only whiners are you criminals,
So this thread and the hundreds others like it whining about their precious pixels being blown up, were created by pirates?
You have failed on so many levels so far, now your memory has failed too
I was referring to this thread as I was replying to the poster above me, but of course you just HAD to twist my words and interpret them in such a way so you could pour out some cheap insults.
Anyway, there's a massive whine thread about griefers being unable to wardec and gank corphopping players, why don't you make yourself at home in there?
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.01 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Sekhmet Orion
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah The only whiners are you criminals,
So this thread and the hundreds others like it whining about their precious pixels being blown up, were created by pirates?
You have failed on so many levels so far, now your memory has failed too
I was referring to this thread as I was replying to the poster above me, but of course you just HAD to twist my words and interpret them in such a way so you could pour out some cheap insults.
Anyway, there's a massive whine thread about griefers being unable to wardec and gank corphopping players, why don't you make yourself at home in there?
You are such a terrible failposter. The thread you refrence is about a group of carebears using game mechanics to escape war, i.e. the non-consentual PvP that you agree to when you undock. Furthermore, the use of game mechanics (in this case war declarations) in no way constitutes griefing.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.01 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces You are such a terrible failposter. The thread you refrence is about a group of carebears using game mechanics to escape war, i.e. the non-consentual PvP that you agree to when you undock. Furthermore, the use of game mechanics (in this case war declarations) in no way constitutes griefing.
And you still don't understand that we DONT agree to silly griefing "PVP" when we undock, which is exactly what Goonswarm is doing and what those pathetic kiddie corporations are doing. If they want PVP, they can go to lowsec and 0.0, where it is perfectly endorsed and perfectly supported by the game mechanics.
But using holes in the game mechanics to escape grief is evil and using it to cause grief is good eh?
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.01 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Dianeces You are such a terrible failposter. The thread you refrence is about a group of carebears using game mechanics to escape war, i.e. the non-consentual PvP that you agree to when you undock. Furthermore, the use of game mechanics (in this case war declarations) in no way constitutes griefing.
And you still don't understand that we DONT agree to silly griefing "PVP" when we undock, which is exactly what Goonswarm is doing and what those pathetic kiddie corporations are doing. If they want PVP, they can go to lowsec and 0.0, where it is perfectly endorsed and perfectly supported by the game mechanics.
But using holes in the game mechanics to escape grief is evil and using it to cause grief is good eh?
No. You're still failing. Whether or not you choose to delude yourself into thinking you don't agree to PvP when you undock is your problem. The simple fact of the matter is you do agree to it. If you undock, you can and will be subject to PvP, no questions asked. If you're not docked, you're not safe, period. Furthermore, your continual use of the word "griefing" demonstrates how completely clueless you are. If they want to PvP, they could go to lowsec and 0.0, or they could do it in highsec and watch all the ridiculous carebears floating about whine and cry bitter, bitter tears which taste so sweet. You may as well try and adapt, because it isn't going away anytime soon.
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D4RK 0NE
testicular Fortitude
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Posted - 2008.03.01 19:40:00 -
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your tears... so tasty
its people like you that make my day
please continue, as theres nothing better than seeing a fool fall on his face over and over and over....
_________________ yes... I am nutz
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.01 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Dianeces You are such a terrible failposter. The thread you refrence is about a group of carebears using game mechanics to escape war, i.e. the non-consentual PvP that you agree to when you undock. Furthermore, the use of game mechanics (in this case war declarations) in no way constitutes griefing.
And you still don't understand that we DONT agree to silly griefing "PVP" when we undock, which is exactly what Goonswarm is doing and what those pathetic kiddie corporations are doing. If they want PVP, they can go to lowsec and 0.0, where it is perfectly endorsed and perfectly supported by the game mechanics.
But using holes in the game mechanics to escape grief is evil and using it to cause grief is good eh?
No. You're still failing. Whether or not you choose to delude yourself into thinking you don't agree to PvP when you undock is your problem. The simple fact of the matter is you do agree to it. If you undock, you can and will be subject to PvP, no questions asked. If you're not docked, you're not safe, period. Furthermore, your continual use of the word "griefing" demonstrates how completely clueless you are. If they want to PvP, they could go to lowsec and 0.0, or they could do it in highsec and watch all the ridiculous carebears floating about whine and cry bitter, bitter tears which taste so sweet. You may as well try and adapt, because it isn't going away anytime soon.
I have already explained how this is griefing, and if you do not go look up my post and debate that logically, then I will hereby accept your concession.
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Sekhmet Orion on 01/03/2008 20:04:18
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
I have already explained how this is griefing, and if you do not go look up my post and debate that logically, then I will hereby accept your concession.
So this is how you "win" arguments. You delude yourself, ignore everything that has been said to the counter (including CCP's own words) then continue to spout nonsense
Here's a pro tip for you....read back through the thread, and see how many agree with you. ( I think you even managed to embarrass self confessed carebears with your continual bleating )
The inescapable conclusion from this thread...is that you are on your own. This applies to your opinion, and your in game presence.
I doubt you can see that, as you seem to only be able to hear your own voice.
Of course your interpretation is that EVERYONE else is wrong, and you in your lordly wisdom (and ebayed char) is the only one that can save EVE.
There is a medical term for your condition
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Omarvelous
I'm probably going to be buried in posts here but...
I thought about this topic some more and I wonder what you guys think of it.
Leave the insurance system alone (removing it and you've increased the threshold of suicide ganking to the point of making high sec into no-risk sec).
Instead - if your character has committed crimes that involved Concord - they permanently lose Concord's protection. They go on a Concord blacklist. They can rat their way to high sec status to go anywhere in empire - but they lose Concord's protection, so if a carebear wanted revenge or freaks out that the guy is going to suicide his ship again - he can attack you and defend himself from your first strike - by attacking you first without getting Concorded.
Now suicide ganker has to consider a tank on his gank ship (slightly more difficult repeat customers) - and the whiney carebear has a means to defend themselves ONTOP of the reasons already given (you can FIGHT back and strike first!).
If I suicided in high sec, I'd love this because it would encourage more fights, and I don't need some lame ass Concord protecting me - BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO!
P.S. yarrrrrrrrr
This already happens. If your sec status is below a certain level, anyone can shoot you without consequences.
Yes, but you can't realistically fly around with out being petitioned for exploting (it's an exploit to launch drones and kill the faction police so you can fly around high-sec).
So no, it doesn't already happen, because if I jump to high-sec in anything bigger than an i-stab frigate I'm instantly webbed to 3m/s, scrammed, perma jammed. If I got my sec up and could fly through highsec about 100-150 people would have kill rights on me right now, and that'd be basically what he's saying, except it'd be all of EVE and a hell of a risk for anyone like me.
But hey I'm all for it. I hate the NPCs anyways and them not protecting me would be one less way for me to have to deal with them. ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sekhmet Orion
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
I have already explained how this is griefing, and if you do not go look up my post and debate that logically, then I will hereby accept your concession.
So this is how you "win" arguments. You delude yourself, ignore everything that has been said the the counter (including CCP's own words) then continue to spout nonsense
Here's a pro tip for you....read back through the thread, and see how many agree with you. ( i think you even managed to embarrass self confessed carebears with your continual bleating )
The inescapable conclusion from this thread...is that you are on your own. This applies to your opinion, your in game presence.
I doubt you can see that, as you seem to only be able to hear your own voice.
The quote from CCP Wrangler did not apply to what I said at all. I can pull quotes out of my arse as a winning card, but if the card does not match color then it's quite pointless, eh?
There are plenty of people in this thread and the many other threads that agree with the two points I have made, just look around and see how many people say that insurance should be void when Concord pops your ship.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=714172&page=2
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=713603
I most definately do not stand alone.
Maybe it's because you sore losers threaten to hunt down and gank everyone you lose from on the forums that people are terrorized into keeping their mouths shut.
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Maybe it's because you sore losers threaten to hunt down and gank everyone you lose from on the forums that people are terrorized into keeping their mouths shut.
ITT: You provide proof, or you STFU.
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Sekhmet Orion
Mandatory Suicide Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=714172&page=2
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=713603
I most definately do not stand alone.
Maybe it's because you sore losers threaten to hunt down and gank everyone you lose from on the forums that people are terrorized into keeping their mouths shut.
So you found 2 people...wow.
And btw you can throw around personal insults all you like, but I am not the one "losing" ships
Btw, I am watching the alliance mining tournament...no sorry its the alliance mission tournament...oh wait, its about blowing ships up
Running missions and trading in game is a means to provide ships for the more fun aspect of this game.
You might want to look up the definition of fun as it seems that you fail to understand the concept. Maybe your calculator does not have it as a variable
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: techzer0 on 01/03/2008 20:11:56
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah stuff.
Are you an alt of Jonny Jojo? Seriously... Chill on the replies to every other post and look at some ideas other than your own.
Insurance can't be voided, because that would flood the petition system when a person legitimately makes a mistake and gets concorded.
And people threaten to hunt you down and gank you not because of your ideas, but because of your posting style and choice of words... lay off the generalizations like "you sore losers" and stuff. and if you're scared of repercussions from posting, use an alt like you are, even if nobody will take you seriously.
Edit: I'm the second to point this out.. notice a trend? ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Edit: I'm the second to point this out.. notice a trend?
It's obviously a "griefer" conspiracy.
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D4RK 0NE
testicular Fortitude
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0 Edited by: techzer0 on 01/03/2008 20:11:56
And people threaten to hunt you down and gank you not because of your ideas, but because of your posting style and choice of words... lay off the generalizations like "you sore losers" and stuff. and if you're scared of repercussions from posting, use an alt like you are, even if nobody will take you seriously.
quoted for truth and signed
_________________ yes... I am nutz
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Maybe it's because you sore losers threaten to hunt down and gank everyone you lose from on the forums that people are terrorized into keeping their mouths shut.
ITT: You provide proof, or you STFU.
Don't read thread much?
Originally by: Ki An Yes, that's exactly why I ask. Man up and tell me the name of your main so I can make it my personal mission to suicide gank you back to a noob ship plz.
Originally by: M'ing Pai Ki An, when you find out, if you find out apart from the forums, could you let me know in-game? I'd like to accompany you on that expedition. You know where to find me.
Originally by: D4RK 0NE i tried to find some cheese for your whine,but the mice had eaten it.. guess ill go looking for you instead
Originally by: Conq Er Edited by: Conq Er on 29/02/2008 02:37:27 So who else is running locator agents on Ankhesentapemkah now?
Originally by: duckmonster
Originally by: Conq Er Edited by: Conq Er on 29/02/2008 02:37:27 So who else is running locator agents on Ankhesentapemkah now?
I ran out of points hunting down people whining in the eve-o general thread :(
Let us know where he hangs out.
Originally by: Ki An Yes, I want to bully you into quitting the game, and no I am not sick. I am just very protective of things that I find fun. You are trying to get Eve changed in a way that would make it un-fun for me, so I will do whatever I can to stop you, including griefing the hell out of you and your ilk. As I said, nothing personal.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:22:00 -
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lol... well you have read this forum before haven't you? ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.01 20:23:00 -
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we're winning in 0.0 and empire. too bad we suck at the alliance tournament. Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan |
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