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Veron Daerth
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Posted - 2008.04.21 19:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Veron Daerth
The most hilarious thing I think I have ever seen was a ninja-salvager (hereafter named Joe) that accidentally grabbed the prisoner out of the can that spawned on top of the wreck of the last BS in my L4.
First of all, this was not me.
I would never use a destroyer (worst salvaging ships in the game) and if I stole the mission item it would neither be accidental nor would I hang around long enough for you to shoot me.
No, no, the use of the name "Joe" was meant to be a generalization for ease of use in my little rambling story, not any specific person, player, or character, I don't really remember the salvager's character name, so I substituted a common name to illustrate a point. If there was any confusion or misunderstanding, I sincerely apologize. I am sure that Joe Starbreaker and all the other characters named with variations of "Joe" are competent and knowledgeable persons (until they demonstrate otherwise) who would not make that mistake, and really, the poor guy that we killed probably didn't even notice until the first salvo of cruises reached him. And, to give him credit, he did make a somewhat hasty attempt to retreat, it just wasn't successful. Sorry for the mix-up
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Loraen
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:34:00 -
[62]
As a sidenote, salvage ownership rules work just like real life. A sunken ship wreck "belongs" (in a sense) to the owner, but anyone can salvage the wreck. I'm not sure about the ownership of any undamaged cargo, though.
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Sigul Siento
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Posted - 2008.04.28 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sigul Siento on 28/04/2008 20:24:42
Edited by: Sigul Siento on 28/04/2008 20:24:26
I am an idiot, disregard (can't see a way to delete my own posts  ).
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Sharp Feather
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.28 21:41:00 -
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Why cant people play the game how its mean to play... all theses ninjas, suicide attack and thief need to be punched in the face IRL.
cowards.
F@$&?# Cowards.
The worts being and the plague of humanity are the MOTHA $&?!#@# cowards. But its not surprising at all to find a lot of them on the internet... since nerdz without power IRL try to cause pain in game because they are too WEAK to do it IRL... or have been traited that way IRL.
aaaaaalalalaal, oh well it will never change anyway. If you search me, Im outside.
PS: If you find my english silly, try to speak french as well as I speak english and then you can say sh?t.
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syphurous
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.04.29 00:52:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Sharp Feather
rant
I loled.
IBGBTW
Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.04.29 03:25:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Sharp Feather
Why cant people play the game how its mean to play... all theses ninjas, suicide attack and thief need to be punched in the face IRL.
cowards.
...
Originally by: Sharp Feather
try to speak french as well as I speak english and then you can say sh?t.
merde?
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.04.29 03:36:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Sharp Feather
Why cant people play the game how its mean to play... all theses ninjas, suicide attack and thief need to be punched in the face IRL.
cowards.
F@$&?# Cowards.
The worts being and the plague of humanity are the MOTHA $&?!#@# cowards. But its not surprising at all to find a lot of them on the internet... since nerdz without power IRL try to cause pain in game because they are too WEAK to do it IRL... or have been traited that way IRL.
aaaaaalalalaal, oh well it will never change anyway. If you search me, Im outside.
PS: If you find my english silly, try to speak french as well as I speak english and then you can say sh?t.
I tried to think of something better, but I really just can't improve on the classics.
Your tears are delicious
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.04.29 03:58:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Loraen
As a sidenote, salvage ownership rules work just like real life. A sunken ship wreck "belongs" (in a sense) to the owner, but anyone can salvage the wreck. I'm not sure about the ownership of any undamaged cargo, though.
The it belongs to the rat pilot/captain, who is now dead :D
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Sigul Siento
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Posted - 2008.04.29 09:05:00 -
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At least my mispost above brought some good with it; as a bump with subsequent humorous rant 
...why would anyone wish to speak french 
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.04.29 20:44:00 -
[70]
Originally by: catheleen
Great guide, thanks alot!
You got an idea on how much ISK per Hour this can earn in high sec?
Not much and a whole lot of wasted time if the runners pop the wrecks
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.04.29 21:30:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Highwind Cid
Originally by: catheleen
Great guide, thanks alot!
You got an idea on how much ISK per Hour this can earn in high sec?
Definately less than actually doing missions yourself. It will make more than lvl 1 or 2, but if you have acess to lvl 3 and 4, this is a sorta waste of time.
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Taguchi Hiroko
Deadly Addiction
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.04.29 23:02:00 -
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Nice guide. Btw, a lot of these ninja salvager likes to take loot when they see the missioner not on sight. not sure what they're thinking (come back in a bs?). I used to cloak in a suicide catalyst just to wait for them to flag and then pod them (guess you won't be coming back too soon). Good fun.
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.04.29 23:52:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Taguchi Hiroko
Nice guide. Btw, a lot of these ninja salvager likes to take loot when they see the missioner not on sight. not sure what they're thinking (come back in a bs?). I used to cloak in a suicide catalyst just to wait for them to flag and then pod them (guess you won't be coming back too soon). Good fun.
Yup. As I said before, if you have a PVP ship in the system, you can use the tactics described in the guide to get your inner YARR on. Who knows, maybe if you keep doing it they'll stop asking for salvaging to flag you to the owner.
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YzakJoule
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.04.30 12:21:00 -
[74]
ggod, guide, explained a few things I was unsure about in detail.
Ninja Salvaging, its all good fun. |
Mc Fraser
Scream Inc.
Moral Decay.
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Posted - 2008.04.30 14:30:00 -
[75]
i am a mission runner who does not salvage or loot. i offer my mission salvage in local and normally get turned down with people thinking im there to kill them.
i make more isk by not salvaging and running another mission than i would if i sat there and looted and salvaged the mission.
only person that has taken me up on salvage was actually ninja salvaging a room i had all ready left when i asked in local
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.04.30 20:51:00 -
[76]
Originally by: catheleen
Great guide, thanks alot!
You got an idea on how much ISK per Hour this can earn in high sec?
I'd say 5 to 10 million per hour, on average, depending on where you are. It's kind of "feast or famine", sometimes you get so many sites you can't salvage them fast enough, sometimes it's hard to probe down any at all.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.04.30 20:52:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Mc Fraser
i am a mission runner who does not salvage or loot. i offer my mission salvage in local and normally get turned down with people thinking im there to kill them.
What fun would that be?
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YzakJoule
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.05.01 00:28:00 -
[78]
just got smacked in local ninja salvaging, made me feel all warm and fuzzy.
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Had Enough
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Posted - 2008.05.04 11:08:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Jitabug
Is it just me or does anyone else now feel inspired to actively track certain posters down and salvage their wrecks?
You're not the only one. |
Tamoko
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Posted - 2008.05.04 11:25:00 -
[80]
Quote:
I don't, and I personally don't recommend it, but I guess that's your decision. I personally will give the missionrunner a portion of the salvage if they avoid being a **** about it, but I guess that's your decision
You're full of it, mate. Not only did you not share with me, but you tried baiting me in to aggroing on to you, then pulled loot from a can and toyed with me |
Dotard
Minmatar
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.04 13:37:00 -
[81]
You sure that wasn't me? You look familiar......
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Lyta Reimalken
Minmatar
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.05.04 19:35:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Lyta Reimalken on 04/05/2008 19:37:09
For those looking for a counter to ninja salvaging... Get this...
Salvage the wreck yourself first. I salvage wrecks as I go, and I specifically choose a ship with free high slots to make sure I CAN salvage as I go. That way, some little frigate cant beat me to it. After all, a lot of wrecks go unsalvaged, might as well be some little frigate getting them, spread the wealth :D
You people treat it like its some kind of exploit. Its not.
Its just your failure to capitalise on resources at your doorstep, and then whining when someone else beats you to the good stuff... |
Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Wrath.
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Posted - 2008.05.05 19:22:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Sharp Feather
Why cant people play the game how its mean to play... all theses ninjas, suicide attack and thief need to be punched in the face IRL.
cowards.
F@$&?# Cowards.
The worts being and the plague of humanity are the MOTHA $&?!#@# cowards. But its not surprising at all to find a lot of them on the internet... since nerdz without power IRL try to cause pain in game because they are too WEAK to do it IRL... or have been traited that way IRL.
aaaaaalalalaal, oh well it will never change anyway. If you search me, Im outside.
PS: If you find my english silly, try to speak french as well as I speak english and then you can say sh?t.
Who made you the lord of all that is EVE so that you can dictate how the game is supposed to be played? I do belive that when salvaging was introduced into the game CCP had this very sort of gameplay in mind. Salvage was not added as somethign to give mission runners more isk, it was intended to be another career path for people to take, and people 'ninja salvaging' are just doing things as CCP intended.
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My views do not represent my alliance. TBH, my posts do not even represent my own views...I am posting while asleep. |
Dotard
Minmatar
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.06 11:22:00 -
[84]
Wait wait wait. Hold the presses!
You mean Sharp Feather is NOT the Lord of all that is EvE?!
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Svedge II
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Posted - 2008.05.06 19:54:00 -
[85]
A thing most raging carebears doesn't know is that salvaging after a lvl 4 mission will reduce their isk/h. |
Dotard
Minmatar
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 02:25:00 -
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Ok, flame me if you must but this was fun.
Scan down a level III mission, warp to it, cloaked of course  , find it just beginning with a noobish player in an NPC corp.
I zip back to station, grab the trusty 'cane, return and got to popping NPC's left and right. I got a "Gee-whiz, thanks for helping me complete my mission, mister!" in local which I ignored.
I don't know how the bounties work there, if they got shared or not, but I recieved a decent bounty paycheck (that's paycheque for you over the ocean fellas) for the work involved.
I immediately go to station, grab salvaging stabber and got to work. I think, "what the hell..." and get to looting also. He did return in a small salvaging/looting destroyer but all that was left was 4 wrecks which I continued to loot and salvage. To add insult to injury I left one unsalvaged, but looted, wreck.
I thanked him in local and left.
Not one word of smack. Not one word period. Total silence.
If the bounties were NOT shared, he MAYBE got 2-3 or 4 kills. I sucked up the rest.
So pretty much all he got was the agent payoff and I 'Ninja'd' almost the entirety of his 'in mission' earnings.
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David Detritus
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.11 15:41:00 -
[87]
Wow, topics like this invite a ton of smack don't they?
Not that I don't ninja-salvage myself on occasion, you must admit that it makes you a complete bastard if you do it, people work hard to earn crappy isk on missions and salvage is where the real reward is.
Still, trit bars go down well with a pint of guinness and some whining, haha
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.05.11 15:43:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Dotard
Ok, flame me if you must but this was fun.
Scan down a level III mission, warp to it, cloaked of course , find it just beginning with a noobish player in an NPC corp.
I zip back to station, grab the trusty 'cane, return and got to popping NPC's left and right. I got a "Gee-whiz, thanks for helping me complete my mission, mister!" in local which I ignored.
I don't know how the bounties work there, if they got shared or not, but I recieved a decent bounty paycheck (that's paycheque for you over the ocean fellas) for the work involved.
I immediately go to station, grab salvaging stabber and got to work. I think, "what the hell..." and get to looting also. He did return in a small salvaging/looting destroyer but all that was left was 4 wrecks which I continued to loot and salvage. To add insult to injury I left one unsalvaged, but looted, wreck.
I thanked him in local and left.
Not one word of smack. Not one word period. Total silence.
If the bounties were NOT shared, he MAYBE got 2-3 or 4 kills. I sucked up the rest.
So pretty much all he got was the agent payoff and I 'Ninja'd' almost the entirety of his 'in mission' earnings.
Now, why not just do your own mission for full mission earnings?
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.05.12 00:15:00 -
[89]
Is there a probing guide?
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Had Enough
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Posted - 2008.05.12 01:09:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Hanneshannes
Is there a probing guide?
Well there is the OP of this thread and a few more here.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=431586
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=445716
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWhdJpo29wg
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