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Raytian Aliastra	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:40:00 - [31] Originally by: Salastil We've been kicking around the reason why people are whining so hard about this on SA and someone came up with a pretty good summary of it. Quote: Really, the actions of JihadSwarm have brought out a lot of whining (hence tag). These people appear to play EVE despite its pvp focus. Why is that? I think it's because there isn't another good internet spaceship game. These people want to play internet spaceships, but don't want to PVP. Some of them play EVE and just try to avoid PVP. When they can't, they can't fight back so they whine. Would be really interesting to see what happens if there's another internet spaceship game that is carebear and not really lousy or minor (like Vendetta Online). Star Trek online might be this but I'd give 97% odds against. Ugh I was not gonna reply to anyone but this was a good response. The truth is I was taking a break from 0.0 for a week or two and just wanted to relax and empire mine every so often. I was already getting disenchanted with how unbalanced the game is. I figured the suicide ganking of hulks in high sec was a joke, I assure you it is not. Ive been enjoying eve a lot for the past few months but it was not because of the game but was because I had finally found a mature and fun group of people to play with. If there was another eve like game with a decent balance between pvp and carebear I would def. try it out... But in the end it would be the people that would keep me playing. Hey there is no rules that says I can't get on vent and BS like always and be playing a different game!
Inconstant Moon Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:41:00 - [32] Fair enough. The game's not fun for him any more so he quit... no surprise there really. Would be nice if the sound of wallets snapping shut could drown out the shrieking from the goon's monkey hut - but then, shrieking monkeys do make an awful clatter.
Zeba Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah If you read carefully, he's not quitting over his loss, he's quitting over the flawed game mechanics which give players the ability to grief without consequence and without any ability to retaliate. Well considering this is an intended game mechanic that has been constantly tweaked by CCP over the years I'd say his moral sacrifice for proper ethics in mmo greifing balance just got wasted. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. ---------------------
Lori Carlyle Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:43:00 - [34] HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.. Go Goonies Go! ---- CCP Please answer the following Questions.
kruschev Noob Mercs	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:43:00 - [35] Originally by: Salastil We've been kicking around the reason why people are whining so hard about this on SA and someone came up with a pretty good summary of it. You talk serious stuff on SA forums? _________________________________ Cry 'Havoc', and let slip the goons of war.
Val Streth GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:46:00 - [36] Came for the tears. Was not disappointed.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:46:00 - [37] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Originally by: baltec1 You spineless grunt... Spitting your dummy out and quitting the game over the loss of a reletivly inexpencive and easily replaced ship is increadably childish. There are far worse things that can happen you than a goonswarm. Shuch as this dropping right on top of me. Yep I realy am that unlucky If you read carefully, he's not quitting over his loss, he's quitting over the flawed game mechanics which give players the ability to grief without consequence and without any ability to retaliate. My maller was good, but I dont think I was much of a threat. Its the same thing realy. The only difference is that I was in a combat ship in 0.0 while he was in a mining ship in high sec. Both of us didnt stand a chance in winning.
Nyabinghi Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:46:00 - [38] I don't think it's the ship loss that was the reason for quitting. EVE requires a big investment in time and effort to do or accomplish anything, well except maybe suicide ganking, and I can see why a person would quit if they found the game to be unrewarding. There are new MMOs coming out all the time, why stick to one if it's no longer fun? ***
SoftRevolution Complicity.	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Raytian Yep got my hulk popped in high sec. For my fellow miners here is how the geekswarm does it. They send in a character flying a starter ship such as an ibis to bump you off align. They then warp in 5 - 6 Cruisers apparently fitted with smart bombs. They then ... blow ya up. say good by to your ship and your pod if your slow on the warp! How to avoid the geekswarm Set standing on all Goons to -10 so you can see em in local and your overview easier. If you see a starter ship pop into your belt get aligned and up to speed. That starter ship will leave and warp back in close to you. Do not wait, warp to station. No need to even reply with nonsense I've already canceled my accounts, there are a lot other games out there that are not 100% grief and gankfests. I hope my suggestions help other miners avoid the lose of their mining ships. GOON SPOTTED. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Minerva Vulcan The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:47:00 - [40] Haha @ OP

Surfin's PlunderBunny GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:51:00 - [41] Just think, after everyone quits Eve Jita will stop lagging! Originally by: Avaricia look a goon lol
SoftRevolution Complicity.	Posted - 2008.03.24 19:55:00 - [42] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 24/03/2008 19:54:50 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Just think, after everyone quits Eve Jita will stop lagging! Oi Surfin come clean. All this crying on the forums from miners is GIA propaganda, yes? EVE RELATED CONTENT
MongWen Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:01:00 - [43] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah If you read carefully, he's not quitting over his loss, he's quitting over the flawed game mechanics which give players the ability to grief without consequence and without any ability to retaliate. Well last i did a suicide run (against a known farmer), they did get kill rights on me, so they can legaly kill me for 30 days (iirc). If that issent a valid game mechanic that gives people the option to shoot the person that shoot and killed your ship then what is? High sec issent supposed to be 100% secure and hopfully never will be. ------------------------- Opinions are my opinions. They do not reflect view of UCAM, if it is not stated
Alora Venoda GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:01:00 - [44] Originally by: Salastil We've been kicking around the reason why people are whining so hard about this on SA and someone came up with a pretty good summary of it. Quote: Really, the actions of JihadSwarm have brought out a lot of whining (hence tag). These people appear to play EVE despite its pvp focus. Why is that? I think it's because there isn't another good internet spaceship game. These people want to play internet spaceships, but don't want to PVP. Some of them play EVE and just try to avoid PVP. When they can't, they can't fight back so they whine. Would be really interesting to see what happens if there's another internet spaceship game that is carebear and not really lousy or minor (like Vendetta Online). Star Trek online might be this but I'd give 97% odds against. this brings up a very valid point indeed... however, much of the carebear playerbase in EVE is actually doing a different kind of PvP in markets, cleaning asteroid belts, cherry picking ore, etc... well there's also mission runners... anyway, without the PvP'ers and fleet battles, etc, there would be nobody to buy all the ships and modules that the miners and industrialists produce. and all those PvP'ers would not have any ships to blow up without all the miners and industrialists... so in fact having a strong population of both kinds of players means EVE has got a really nice balance. overall i do agree that there are probably too many carebears in EVE as revealed by all the whining over jihadswarm. and if a "more carebear friendly internet spaceship game" were to come along, such as Infinity (if it delivers what it promises and doesn't suck), many players would probably switch. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Tunak Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:05:00 - [45] EPIC FAIL Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 24/03/2008 19:22:57 Time to fix these 'tactics'. No insurance for concord popped ships. This will hurt newbs who make mistakes more then anyone. All this will do is replace, "goon popped my hulk I quit" whines with "I shot my gang mate accidentally and lost my BS I quit" whines. Or "I tagged someones can with my smart bomb I quit" whines. Or any of the myriad ways newbs blow up. Quote: Permanent standing loss for high sec criminals. Once again punishes newbs who don't know better. Quote: Criminals are outlaws in high sec and free-for-all to shoot at. Define criminal and punishes newbs. Quote: Empire factions hunt down criminal alliances such as Goonswarm. I join your alliance. I do bad things and get it declared criminal. They my friends pew pew you and you cry and quit. Oh one person can't declare it criminal? It take x% of the alliance doing bad things to have it declared criminal? Well I have two other slots on this account that aren't doing anything. I'll just add them to the alliance to pad the numbers and render this mechanic meaningless.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:05:00 - [46] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Raytian No need to even reply with nonsense I've already canceled my accounts, there are a lot other games out there that are not 100% grief and gankfests. **** guys, he has more than one account. We better start feeling sorry for him! Better start feeling sorry for ourselves. This means that CCP will be begging for change on the streets next month. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Annaphera The Green Machine	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:05:00 - [47] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah If you read carefully, he's not quitting over his loss, he's quitting over the flawed game mechanics which give players the ability to grief without consequence and without any ability to retaliate. Well considering this is an intended game mechanic that has been constantly tweaked by CCP over the years I'd say his moral sacrifice for proper ethics in mmo greifing balance just got wasted. I don't know if that is a valid argument...by your logic, there should be no more rules changes at all after a certain point, because everything should be balanced after so long. In truth, things get thrown out of whack by new items, play-styles change and mess with the economy and the rules, and people (the Goons, in this case) do things the rules never envisioned, prompting a possible review of said rules. That said, I will agree with those who think that the loss of one ship is a poor reason to be quitting, but if that's all it took to ruin your overall enjoyment of the game, I guess nothing more needs to be said.
Exlegion New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:12:00 - [48] Originally by: Salastil We've been kicking around the reason why people are whining so hard about this on SA and someone came up with a pretty good summary of it. Quote: Really, the actions of JihadSwarm have brought out a lot of whining (hence tag). These people appear to play EVE despite its pvp focus. Why is that? I think it's because there isn't another good internet spaceship game. These people want to play internet spaceships, but don't want to PVP. Some of them play EVE and just try to avoid PVP. When they can't, they can't fight back so they whine. Would be really interesting to see what happens if there's another internet spaceship game that is carebear and not really lousy or minor (like Vendetta Online). Star Trek online might be this but I'd give 97% odds against. For the sake of Eve's health we should hope this isn't true. Although I suspect there is some truth to this. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr
Havoc GunStar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:14:00 - [49] Originally by: Annaphera I don't know if that is a valid argument...by your logic, there should be no more rules changes at all after a certain point, because everything should be balanced after so long. In truth, things get thrown out of whack by new items, play-styles change and mess with the economy and the rules, and people (the Goons, in this case) do things the rules never envisioned, prompting a possible review of said rules. That said, I will agree with those who think that the loss of one ship is a poor reason to be quitting, but if that's all it took to ruin your overall enjoyment of the game, I guess nothing more needs to be said. The first time I was suicide ganked in high sec, was about a year and a half before Goonswarm even existed. Stop pretending this is something new. It's not.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:15:00 - [50] Originally by: Raytian Yep got my hulk popped in high sec. For my fellow miners here is how the geekswarm does it. They send in a character flying a starter ship such as an ibis to bump you off align. They then warp in 5 - 6 Cruisers apparently fitted with smart bombs. They then ... blow ya up. say good by to your ship and your pod if your slow on the warp! How to avoid the geekswarm Set standing on all Goons to -10 so you can see em in local and your overview easier. If you see a starter ship pop into your belt get aligned and up to speed. That starter ship will leave and warp back in close to you. Do not wait, warp to station. No need to even reply with nonsense I've already canceled my accounts, there are a lot other games out there that are not 100% grief and gankfests. I hope my suggestions help other miners avoid the lose of their mining ships. Except for the part about canceling his accounts, this is probably the best post about Goonswarm's High Sec gankage that has yet been made. Has anyone else in the other threads actually recorded the method by which the Goons achieve their nefarious goals? I don't remember any, although I haven't been arsed to read EVERY jihadswarm thread.

Baron Erique Bhavana Singularity	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:15:00 - [51] Originally by: Rob Buie these are not good players because they're not willing to accept the mechanics of CCP's of a fully player run universe. Just a small point here...were EVE really a fully player run universe, the insurance system would not be the way it is currently and suicide gankers would be forced to take a loss to achieve their objective, instead of the way things work now.
Scruffy Jed Aliastra	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:16:00 - [52] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah If you read carefully, he's not quitting over his loss, he's quitting over the flawed game mechanics which give players the ability to grief without consequence and without any ability to retaliate. No ability to retaliate? Surely you're joking, or just stupid. There's nothing stopping the whining pubbie in da OP from getting into a combat ship and coming down to our regions to exact his revenge. Also, threads like these just encourage more goons to get in on the jihad. I suspect the op does not "get" goons. Furthermore,
flakeys Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:16:00 - [53] This game is SO full of dumb idiots these days.....and i aint talking bout the dude who pushed the cancel button cause frankly he made most sense to me....
Dario Wall Heretic Army DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:17:00 - [54] This entire "JihadSwarm" thing they are doing is a big joke to be honest. They are killing miners by suiciding? Ok, well who builds those ships they are using to kill the miners? Well, miners of course. Oh? They build their own? Well, where do they get the minerals to build them? They do their own mining? No matter how you look at it, whether they buy the ships or build them on their own, they are no better than the 'carebears' they claim to want to kill. All these new topics people keep making on the forums are justing giving them exactly what they are trying to get. Attention. Just ignore them and move on.
Dingi223 University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:20:00 - [55] EVE is a good game, and it is the best internet spaceships game at the moment. Personally, I believe Jumpgate Evolutuion and Infinity could make for some competition, and I'll probably swap since I love the idea of twitch-based flying. I do think at this stage EVE will suffer a loss of players, especially as frustrations continue to grow for multiple reasons. Is it a good thing for the game? I don't know. If a lot of people leave, then it's not, it makes the game less successful, less profitable, which is never a good thing. If it makes CCP step up and improve the game to compete, then it is. I'll wait and see, I'm definitely eagerly awaiting JGE and Infinity.
RigelKentaurus Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Exlegion For the sake of Eve's health we should hope this isn't true. Although I suspect there is some truth to this. IMO there is more than some truth in this. Myself, for instance, wouldn't be playing EVE if there were another good space MMO more balanced/carebear friendly. It's obvious that many players play EVE because CCP almost has the monopoly over space MMOs. _________ Someday, EVE may look like this.
Kaar Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:22:00 - [57] Quote: Small C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Small Shield Extender II Small Shield Extender I From the killmail. Great tank on a 100m isk ship --- ---
Lori Carlyle Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:22:00 - [58] Originally by: RigelKentaurus It's obvious that many players play EVE because CCP almost has the monopoly over space MMOs. +1 ---- CCP Please answer the following Questions.
Annaphera The Green Machine	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:24:00 - [59] Edited by: Annaphera on 24/03/2008 20:24:12 Originally by: Havoc GunStar Originally by: Annaphera I don't know if that is a valid argument...by your logic, there should be no more rules changes at all after a certain point, because everything should be balanced after so long. In truth, things get thrown out of whack by new items, play-styles change and mess with the economy and the rules, and people (the Goons, in this case) do things the rules never envisioned, prompting a possible review of said rules. That said, I will agree with those who think that the loss of one ship is a poor reason to be quitting, but if that's all it took to ruin your overall enjoyment of the game, I guess nothing more needs to be said. The first time I was suicide ganked in high sec, was about a year and a half before Goonswarm even existed. Stop pretending this is something new. It's not. I never said that high sec suicide ganks are new, I implied a mass campaign to carry out an undeclared war on miners in high sec using the rules that are supposed to allow for occasional suicide attacks and gate camps is a new thing.
Bloody Rabbit State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.24 20:25:00 - [60] Quote from bio of Cymoro, GoonFleet "JihadSwarm Role: Director of Offensive Contracts If you wish to take out a contract on a mining corporation, please convo me. We can talk out detailsd on who to kill and for how long." I like to see that they are opening the field and killing the stupid and slow ones who can't adjust from the threat that they are causing. Please keep it up Goons



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