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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:35:00 -
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Dear colleagues,
I beg your indulgence for a short time while we relate a tale of some doings in the catch area of our little universe, and while it is set in context. We (AAA) have had blue standings with IAC for some time now. It has been, in the main, a pleasure to work with them, seeing both the alliance and individuals develop as they spent time in 0.0. It was interesting fighting with them originally also, and some of the people we fought I now have the pleasure to call alliance mates.
However, there has been one issue that came to light around mid autumn last year, and was hinted at before, namely the truth behind the rumour that this alliance was, and remains, a front for activities of certain lower-rank members of the group known as Guiding Hand Social Club, whose activities are well known.
Following their apparent disintergration, and the brains leaving for different corps, the remainder seemed to float a little aimlessly. This resolved in the formation of IAC, with Umbra Congregatio under the direction of Tyrrax/Zeraph/Arachv0id, and a couple of others. I cannot and will not pretend to know the full involvement of them in IAC, but suffice to say, the connection is real and current. Raem Civire, Istvaan, Selene Bork are more of them whom I am aware of who are in on this, although your guess is as good as mine regarding how many characters they have. Its easy enough to assume that all the leadership of UMCON are part of this group.
While I usually have more things to do than chase after a group of alts, I have some personal involvement with this to do with holding more than a little grudge against them personally for ganking the nuts out of myself and some friends while a part of a struggling corporation in sad circumstances (Storm Guard Elite, hi Gort!). Ancient history, but not forgotten.
Fast forward a little, and I find myself part of AAA, and a director in The Collective, alongside many of the same group. I am in the strange situation of being aware of this connection, but being involved in defending the space which they (IAC) hold. Fine - a decent fight is a decent fight, it is something we play for. However, the relationship for me is soured by knowledge of this connection, and by seeing the way the alliance as a whole is abused by this group. Introduction of hardcore farming corps, lax security, poor motivation or encouragement of military forces and focus on lining the pockets of a few while the outposts burn - you get the idea. Rumours of intel being traded from Tyrrax directly to hostiles are also circulating - but I cannot give any more information on that.
Lets continue: It is interesting sometimes, how much people will say, when they are feeling confident.
First chatlog: Arach = Tyrrax / Zeraph D / the guy with the pink hat.
11/03/2008 20:59:44 Me > well 11/03/2008 20:59:46 Me > eve = stale 11/03/2008 20:59:51 Me > thats the basic problem 11/03/2008 21:00:00 Arach > not for me =) 11/03/2008 21:00:07 Arach > i just stole a wyvern 11/03/2008 21:00:16 Arach > and starting gh-sc up fulltime again 11/03/2008 21:00:19 Arach > funfun 11/03/2008 21:00:21 Me > :-O 11/03/2008 21:00:23 Me > story? 11/03/2008 21:00:30 Arach > no 11/03/2008 21:00:34 Me >=/ 11/03/2008 21:00:35 Arach > it's sicrit ;O 11/03/2008 21:00:35 Arach > for now
So, at this point, I'm aware that there is a hot mothership around. This, you will note, is before Jim's post on CAOD. It is, however, Jim Lovell's wyvern which is being discussed.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:35:00 -
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Dear colleagues,
I beg your indulgence for a short time while we relate a tale of some doings in the catch area of our little universe, and while it is set in context. We (AAA) have had blue standings with IAC for some time now. It has been, in the main, a pleasure to work with them, seeing both the alliance and individuals develop as they spent time in 0.0. It was interesting fighting with them originally also, and some of the people we fought I now have the pleasure to call alliance mates.
However, there has been one issue that came to light around mid autumn last year, and was hinted at before, namely the truth behind the rumour that this alliance was, and remains, a front for activities of certain lower-rank members of the group known as Guiding Hand Social Club, whose activities are well known.
Following their apparent disintergration, and the brains leaving for different corps, the remainder seemed to float a little aimlessly. This resolved in the formation of IAC, with Umbra Congregatio under the direction of Tyrrax/Zeraph/Arachv0id, and a couple of others. I cannot and will not pretend to know the full involvement of them in IAC, but suffice to say, the connection is real and current. Raem Civire, Istvaan, Selene Bork are more of them whom I am aware of who are in on this, although your guess is as good as mine regarding how many characters they have. Its easy enough to assume that all the leadership of UMCON are part of this group.
While I usually have more things to do than chase after a group of alts, I have some personal involvement with this to do with holding more than a little grudge against them personally for ganking the nuts out of myself and some friends while a part of a struggling corporation in sad circumstances (Storm Guard Elite, hi Gort!). Ancient history, but not forgotten.
Fast forward a little, and I find myself part of AAA, and a director in The Collective, alongside many of the same group. I am in the strange situation of being aware of this connection, but being involved in defending the space which they (IAC) hold. Fine - a decent fight is a decent fight, it is something we play for. However, the relationship for me is soured by knowledge of this connection, and by seeing the way the alliance as a whole is abused by this group. Introduction of hardcore farming corps, lax security, poor motivation or encouragement of military forces and focus on lining the pockets of a few while the outposts burn - you get the idea. Rumours of intel being traded from Tyrrax directly to hostiles are also circulating - but I cannot give any more information on that.
Lets continue: It is interesting sometimes, how much people will say, when they are feeling confident.
First chatlog: Arach = Tyrrax / Zeraph D / the guy with the pink hat.
11/03/2008 20:59:44 Me > well 11/03/2008 20:59:46 Me > eve = stale 11/03/2008 20:59:51 Me > thats the basic problem 11/03/2008 21:00:00 Arach > not for me =) 11/03/2008 21:00:07 Arach > i just stole a wyvern 11/03/2008 21:00:16 Arach > and starting gh-sc up fulltime again 11/03/2008 21:00:19 Arach > funfun 11/03/2008 21:00:21 Me > :-O 11/03/2008 21:00:23 Me > story? 11/03/2008 21:00:30 Arach > no 11/03/2008 21:00:34 Me >=/ 11/03/2008 21:00:35 Arach > it's sicrit ;O 11/03/2008 21:00:35 Arach > for now
So, at this point, I'm aware that there is a hot mothership around. This, you will note, is before Jim's post on CAOD. It is, however, Jim Lovell's wyvern which is being discussed.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:36:00 -
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 09:36:35 I decide I want it, and that this is the time to see what interesting things can happen... Second chatlog follows:
11/03/2008 21:01:28 Arach > yeah i'm going to recruit like 200 noobs 11/03/2008 21:01:31 Arach > into gh-sc 11/03/2008 21:01:39 Arach > and have them infiltrate everywhere 11/03/2008 21:01:41 Arach > etc 11/03/2008 21:01:41 Arach > it'll be a hoot 11/03/2008 21:02:00 Arach > from istvaan's legion of admiring fans 11/03/2008 21:02:12 Arach > anyone who wants to join rly 11/03/2008 21:02:14 Arach > the elitist thing we've been doing was boring 11/03/2008 21:02:17 Arach > and resulted in inactivity 11/03/2008 21:02:30 Me > dunno about that 11/03/2008 21:02:35 Me > lack of projects probably main thing 11/03/2008 21:02:41 Arach > nah 11/03/2008 21:02:45 Arach > we got hired to destroy bob 11/03/2008 21:02:50 Arach > we got hired to destroy oberon incorporated 11/03/2008 21:02:50 Me > hohoh 11/03/2008 21:02:55 Arach > we just got lazy 11/03/2008 21:03:08 Arach > 56+15 bil up front paymetns for those two btw ;O 11/03/2008 21:03:22 Me > hm nice cash for doing nada 11/03/2008 21:03:28 Arach > yep 11/03/2008 21:03:36 Me > did the client get ****ed off? 11/03/2008 21:03:36 Arach > that's what good PR gets you 11/03/2008 21:03:44 Arach > not really 11/03/2008 21:03:55 Arach > the 56 bil one doesn't really know we're not doing anything 11/03/2008 21:03:58 Arach > and the 15 bil one waited for like 3 years 11/03/2008 21:04:00 Arach > and then asked for half back 11/03/2008 21:04:01 Arach > and we were like umm we're broke
Interesting context, thanks for that. I don't expect anyone to come forward and say "yes it was me, I hired them", but no doubt if you're still hanging on for this contract to resolve, you may want to discuss that with them.
Lets get to the meat.
13/03/2008 18:44:59 Me > you stole jim's wyvern? 13/03/2008 18:45:01 Me > :-O 13/03/2008 18:48:54 Arach > who me 13/03/2008 18:48:54 Arach > would I do that 13/03/2008 18:49:08 Arach > him going afk for 12 hours on station in mb- was last straw ;O 13/03/2008 18:49:16 Me > thats apalling 13/03/2008 18:49:19 Me > he really did that? 13/03/2008 18:49:22 Arach > yes 13/03/2008 18:49:24 Arach > i had to babsyit it 13/03/2008 18:49:27 Arach > at one point he got down to armor 13/03/2008 18:49:29 Arach > ;P 13/03/2008 18:49:35 Arach > but we got a bunch of carriers there an dkept him safe til dt
13/03/2008 18:51:48 Me >can i haevs eet? 13/03/2008 18:51:51 Me >:S 13/03/2008 18:51:55 Me >ill look after it <3 13/03/2008 18:52:05 Arach > you can fly wyvern ? 13/03/2008 18:52:07 Me >yes 13/03/2008 18:52:09 Me >on alt 13/03/2008 18:52:13 Arach > oic 13/03/2008 18:52:19 Arach > wanna buy a cheap wyvern 13/03/2008 18:52:20 Arach > 13/03/2008 18:52:22 Me >hmm 13/03/2008 18:52:24 Me >how cheap? 13/03/2008 18:52:28 Arach > pretty cheap ! 13/03/2008 18:52:32 Me >ive got 13/03/2008 18:52:34 Me >1.7bn 13/03/2008 18:52:36 Me >atm haha 13/03/2008 18:52:41 Arach > welp 13/03/2008 18:52:45 Me >loan me 13/03/2008 18:52:47 Me > 13/03/2008 18:52:51 Arach > haha what 13/03/2008 18:52:58 Arach > i'm already loaning vegeta 10 bil this month 13/03/2008 18:52:59 Arach > ;P
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 09:36:35 I decide I want it, and that this is the time to see what interesting things can happen... Second chatlog follows:
11/03/2008 21:01:28 Arach > yeah i'm going to recruit like 200 noobs 11/03/2008 21:01:31 Arach > into gh-sc 11/03/2008 21:01:39 Arach > and have them infiltrate everywhere 11/03/2008 21:01:41 Arach > etc 11/03/2008 21:01:41 Arach > it'll be a hoot 11/03/2008 21:02:00 Arach > from istvaan's legion of admiring fans 11/03/2008 21:02:12 Arach > anyone who wants to join rly 11/03/2008 21:02:14 Arach > the elitist thing we've been doing was boring 11/03/2008 21:02:17 Arach > and resulted in inactivity 11/03/2008 21:02:30 Me > dunno about that 11/03/2008 21:02:35 Me > lack of projects probably main thing 11/03/2008 21:02:41 Arach > nah 11/03/2008 21:02:45 Arach > we got hired to destroy bob 11/03/2008 21:02:50 Arach > we got hired to destroy oberon incorporated 11/03/2008 21:02:50 Me > hohoh 11/03/2008 21:02:55 Arach > we just got lazy 11/03/2008 21:03:08 Arach > 56+15 bil up front paymetns for those two btw ;O 11/03/2008 21:03:22 Me > hm nice cash for doing nada 11/03/2008 21:03:28 Arach > yep 11/03/2008 21:03:36 Me > did the client get ****ed off? 11/03/2008 21:03:36 Arach > that's what good PR gets you 11/03/2008 21:03:44 Arach > not really 11/03/2008 21:03:55 Arach > the 56 bil one doesn't really know we're not doing anything 11/03/2008 21:03:58 Arach > and the 15 bil one waited for like 3 years 11/03/2008 21:04:00 Arach > and then asked for half back 11/03/2008 21:04:01 Arach > and we were like umm we're broke
Interesting context, thanks for that. I don't expect anyone to come forward and say "yes it was me, I hired them", but no doubt if you're still hanging on for this contract to resolve, you may want to discuss that with them.
Lets get to the meat.
13/03/2008 18:44:59 Me > you stole jim's wyvern? 13/03/2008 18:45:01 Me > :-O 13/03/2008 18:48:54 Arach > who me 13/03/2008 18:48:54 Arach > would I do that 13/03/2008 18:49:08 Arach > him going afk for 12 hours on station in mb- was last straw ;O 13/03/2008 18:49:16 Me > thats apalling 13/03/2008 18:49:19 Me > he really did that? 13/03/2008 18:49:22 Arach > yes 13/03/2008 18:49:24 Arach > i had to babsyit it 13/03/2008 18:49:27 Arach > at one point he got down to armor 13/03/2008 18:49:29 Arach > ;P 13/03/2008 18:49:35 Arach > but we got a bunch of carriers there an dkept him safe til dt
13/03/2008 18:51:48 Me >can i haevs eet? 13/03/2008 18:51:51 Me >:S 13/03/2008 18:51:55 Me >ill look after it <3 13/03/2008 18:52:05 Arach > you can fly wyvern ? 13/03/2008 18:52:07 Me >yes 13/03/2008 18:52:09 Me >on alt 13/03/2008 18:52:13 Arach > oic 13/03/2008 18:52:19 Arach > wanna buy a cheap wyvern 13/03/2008 18:52:20 Arach > 13/03/2008 18:52:22 Me >hmm 13/03/2008 18:52:24 Me >how cheap? 13/03/2008 18:52:28 Arach > pretty cheap ! 13/03/2008 18:52:32 Me >ive got 13/03/2008 18:52:34 Me >1.7bn 13/03/2008 18:52:36 Me >atm haha 13/03/2008 18:52:41 Arach > welp 13/03/2008 18:52:45 Me >loan me 13/03/2008 18:52:47 Me > 13/03/2008 18:52:51 Arach > haha what 13/03/2008 18:52:58 Arach > i'm already loaning vegeta 10 bil this month 13/03/2008 18:52:59 Arach > ;P
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:37:00 -
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13/03/2008 18:53:18 Arach > i'm poor since i started gambling and buying aeons 13/03/2008 18:53:19 Me >how much do you want for it? 13/03/2008 18:53:35 Arach > humm 13/03/2008 18:53:39 Arach > i want 20 bil 13/03/2008 18:53:42 Me >bahahaha 13/03/2008 18:53:43 Arach > but i doubt i'll get more than like 16 13/03/2008 18:53:44 Me >vOv 13/03/2008 18:53:49 Arach > and i'd sell you cheaper 13/03/2008 18:53:51 Arach > but liek 13/03/2008 18:53:54 Arach > you can't afford it anyway 13/03/2008 18:53:57 Me >ill give you 15 if we can do the deal now 13/03/2008 18:54:02 Arach > right now? 13/03/2008 18:54:04 Arach > sec 13/03/2008 18:54:04 Me >i can liquidate the isk, but will take time 13/03/2008 18:55:47 Arach > hmmm 13/03/2008 18:55:51 Arach > i dunno 13/03/2008 18:55:56 Me >well 13/03/2008 18:55:57 Arach > how long would it take you to raise isks 13/03/2008 18:56:04 Me >hm.. let me ask digiblast 13/03/2008 18:56:09 Me >i wont tell him what its for 13/03/2008 18:56:43 Me >harry (who you know) promised me a wyvern a while ago 13/03/2008 18:56:51 Me >so there's cash hanging around 13/03/2008 18:56:53 Arach > well if you can get me isk quickly then sure 13/03/2008 18:56:59 Me >bring it to lgk 13/03/2008 18:57:04 Me >ill get the cash sorted 13/03/2008 18:57:09 Arach > haha no 13/03/2008 18:57:16 Arach > i'm not moving an empty wyvern to lgk on a gh-sc char ;P 13/03/2008 18:57:21 Me >hm 13/03/2008 18:57:25 Arach > it's in biphi 13/03/2008 18:57:25 Me >where can we do the trade? 13/03/2008 18:57:29 Me >biphi? 13/03/2008 18:57:30 Arach > lowsec empire 13/03/2008 18:57:35 Arach > very close to misaba 13/03/2008 18:57:40 Me >hm 13/03/2008 18:57:40 Arach > empty system 13/03/2008 18:57:42 Arach > nice and quiet 13/03/2008 18:57:58 Me >you really want to sell it? 13/03/2008 18:58:01 Me >what about when jim finds out? 13/03/2008 18:58:31 Arach > he won't find out 13/03/2008 18:58:37 Me >well 13/03/2008 18:58:59 Me >look, lets do the trade, ill bang you 10% while i beat digiblast up 13/03/2008 18:59:03 Arach > pretty much entire umcon leadership that matters is in on it 13/03/2008 18:59:07 Me >and we'll keep it schtumm 13/03/2008 18:59:10 Me >kk 13/03/2008 18:59:18 Arach > (gh-sc) 13/03/2008 18:59:31 Me >how much of the old gh-sc crew is in umcon? 13/03/2008 18:59:39 Arach > just me and raem 13/03/2008 18:59:45 Arach > but we recruited one umcon guy 13/03/2008 18:59:54 Arach > both of them are vice presidents in IAC now
13/03/2008 19:06:22 Me >the cash will be np 13/03/2008 19:06:32 Me >just might take a day or so to *****out of our jita alts 13/03/2008 19:10:25 Me >biphi? 13/03/2008 19:10:28 Me >im moving the char there now 13/03/2008 19:11:23 Arach > da 13/03/2008 19:11:26 Arach > i'll poke HG 13/03/2008 19:11:29 Me >hoki 13/03/2008 19:11:33 Arach > he's the pilot 13/03/2008 19:11:36 Arach > ISTVAAN SHOGAATSU 13/03/2008 19:11:38 Arach > zomg
13/03/2008 19:28:11 Arach > man hg is so paranoid 13/03/2008 19:28:34 Me >is local clear? 13/03/2008 19:28:35 Arach > can you send him more than 1.7 bil so he stops crying? 13/03/2008 19:28:39 Arach > not sure 13/03/2008 19:28:50 Me >not right now 13/03/2008 19:28:50 Arach > asking 13/03/2008 19:29:34 Me >ill check col wallet 13/03/2008 19:31:15 Arach > [19:30] <@Jim2> now i join your club in losing a mom hahaha 13/03/2008 19:31:16 Arach > >_< 13/03/2008 19:31:45 Me >jesus 13/03/2008 19:32:02 Me >he really just went afk on station? 13/03/2008 19:32:07 Arach > yeah 13/03/2008 19:32:11 Me >he totally shouldnt get another one 13/03/2008 19:32:12 Arach > fell asleep 13/03/2008 19:32:14 Arach > with fighters out 13/03/2008 19:32:21 Arach > cyno jammer was downt oo
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13/03/2008 18:53:18 Arach > i'm poor since i started gambling and buying aeons 13/03/2008 18:53:19 Me >how much do you want for it? 13/03/2008 18:53:35 Arach > humm 13/03/2008 18:53:39 Arach > i want 20 bil 13/03/2008 18:53:42 Me >bahahaha 13/03/2008 18:53:43 Arach > but i doubt i'll get more than like 16 13/03/2008 18:53:44 Me >vOv 13/03/2008 18:53:49 Arach > and i'd sell you cheaper 13/03/2008 18:53:51 Arach > but liek 13/03/2008 18:53:54 Arach > you can't afford it anyway 13/03/2008 18:53:57 Me >ill give you 15 if we can do the deal now 13/03/2008 18:54:02 Arach > right now? 13/03/2008 18:54:04 Arach > sec 13/03/2008 18:54:04 Me >i can liquidate the isk, but will take time 13/03/2008 18:55:47 Arach > hmmm 13/03/2008 18:55:51 Arach > i dunno 13/03/2008 18:55:56 Me >well 13/03/2008 18:55:57 Arach > how long would it take you to raise isks 13/03/2008 18:56:04 Me >hm.. let me ask digiblast 13/03/2008 18:56:09 Me >i wont tell him what its for 13/03/2008 18:56:43 Me >harry (who you know) promised me a wyvern a while ago 13/03/2008 18:56:51 Me >so there's cash hanging around 13/03/2008 18:56:53 Arach > well if you can get me isk quickly then sure 13/03/2008 18:56:59 Me >bring it to lgk 13/03/2008 18:57:04 Me >ill get the cash sorted 13/03/2008 18:57:09 Arach > haha no 13/03/2008 18:57:16 Arach > i'm not moving an empty wyvern to lgk on a gh-sc char ;P 13/03/2008 18:57:21 Me >hm 13/03/2008 18:57:25 Arach > it's in biphi 13/03/2008 18:57:25 Me >where can we do the trade? 13/03/2008 18:57:29 Me >biphi? 13/03/2008 18:57:30 Arach > lowsec empire 13/03/2008 18:57:35 Arach > very close to misaba 13/03/2008 18:57:40 Me >hm 13/03/2008 18:57:40 Arach > empty system 13/03/2008 18:57:42 Arach > nice and quiet 13/03/2008 18:57:58 Me >you really want to sell it? 13/03/2008 18:58:01 Me >what about when jim finds out? 13/03/2008 18:58:31 Arach > he won't find out 13/03/2008 18:58:37 Me >well 13/03/2008 18:58:59 Me >look, lets do the trade, ill bang you 10% while i beat digiblast up 13/03/2008 18:59:03 Arach > pretty much entire umcon leadership that matters is in on it 13/03/2008 18:59:07 Me >and we'll keep it schtumm 13/03/2008 18:59:10 Me >kk 13/03/2008 18:59:18 Arach > (gh-sc) 13/03/2008 18:59:31 Me >how much of the old gh-sc crew is in umcon? 13/03/2008 18:59:39 Arach > just me and raem 13/03/2008 18:59:45 Arach > but we recruited one umcon guy 13/03/2008 18:59:54 Arach > both of them are vice presidents in IAC now
13/03/2008 19:06:22 Me >the cash will be np 13/03/2008 19:06:32 Me >just might take a day or so to *****out of our jita alts 13/03/2008 19:10:25 Me >biphi? 13/03/2008 19:10:28 Me >im moving the char there now 13/03/2008 19:11:23 Arach > da 13/03/2008 19:11:26 Arach > i'll poke HG 13/03/2008 19:11:29 Me >hoki 13/03/2008 19:11:33 Arach > he's the pilot 13/03/2008 19:11:36 Arach > ISTVAAN SHOGAATSU 13/03/2008 19:11:38 Arach > zomg
13/03/2008 19:28:11 Arach > man hg is so paranoid 13/03/2008 19:28:34 Me >is local clear? 13/03/2008 19:28:35 Arach > can you send him more than 1.7 bil so he stops crying? 13/03/2008 19:28:39 Arach > not sure 13/03/2008 19:28:50 Me >not right now 13/03/2008 19:28:50 Arach > asking 13/03/2008 19:29:34 Me >ill check col wallet 13/03/2008 19:31:15 Arach > [19:30] <@Jim2> now i join your club in losing a mom hahaha 13/03/2008 19:31:16 Arach > >_< 13/03/2008 19:31:45 Me >jesus 13/03/2008 19:32:02 Me >he really just went afk on station? 13/03/2008 19:32:07 Arach > yeah 13/03/2008 19:32:11 Me >he totally shouldnt get another one 13/03/2008 19:32:12 Arach > fell asleep 13/03/2008 19:32:14 Arach > with fighters out 13/03/2008 19:32:21 Arach > cyno jammer was downt oo
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13/03/2008 20:09:11 Arach > HG wants to make sure you don't tell anyone you got it from him 13/03/2008 20:09:20 Me >rg 13/03/2008 20:09:23 Arach > [20:08] <&HellGremlin> Make sure he tells no-one that he got it from Istvaan 13/03/2008 20:10:38 Me >fack this thing is big 13/03/2008 20:11:25 Arach > HG alreday wrote a shortstory about stealing it
13/03/2008 20:51:46 Arach > lmao 13/03/2008 20:51:47 Arach > two wyverns in local now ;O 13/03/2008 20:52:07 Arach > what is it with rich stupid people in umcon having useless wyverns 13/03/2008 20:52:12 Me >kidding 13/03/2008 20:52:14 Arach > that they just buy to prop their *****es up 13/03/2008 20:52:14 Me >who? 13/03/2008 20:52:16 Arach > and then never use them 13/03/2008 20:52:33 Arach > shone 13/03/2008 20:52:40 Arach > he bought my silver magnate for 26 bil too
13/03/2008 20:55:05 Arach > holy **** 13/03/2008 20:55:09 Arach > this officer fit is even better than jim's 13/03/2008 20:55:44 Arach > 2 officer cap recharge mods 13/03/2008 20:55:49 Arach > 2 pith a-type shield boost amp 13/03/2008 20:55:54 Me >nb.. 13/03/2008 20:55:59 Arach > 3 pith x-type hardener 13/03/2008 20:56:01 Arach > 1 thon hardener 13/03/2008 20:56:04 Arach > kaikka cloak 13/03/2008 20:56:19 Arach > 2 t2 ccc 13/03/2008 20:56:20 Arach > 1 1 13/03/2008 20:56:23 Arach > t1 13/03/2008 20:57:29 Arach > gdi 13/03/2008 20:57:30 Arach > nothing in ship maint or cha 13/03/2008 20:57:39 Arach > i was hoping for officer smartbombs or tobias web/scram 13/03/2008 20:57:44 Arach > ohwell
There is lots lots more, but that should give you the idea. Next chatlog is from the day after.
14/03/2008 16:47:48 Me > yo 14/03/2008 16:47:53 Me > is mr bork online? 14/03/2008 16:48:01 Me > im goig to destroy his clone and see what happens 14/03/2008 16:48:08 Arach > he's not online atm no 14/03/2008 16:48:12 Arach > he'll be in #iac when he shows up 14/03/2008 16:48:14 Me > ok 14/03/2008 16:48:22 Arach > they noticed you renamed ship just now 14/03/2008 16:48:33 Me > i renamed it twice 14/03/2008 16:48:42 Me > was going to rename it TYRRAX DUN IT LALZ 14/03/2008 16:48:45 Me > but thougth better 14/03/2008 16:49:18 Arach > man 14/03/2008 16:49:20 Arach > ******* selene 14/03/2008 16:49:24 Arach > he totally bungled the second theft 14/03/2008 16:49:28 Me > how so? 14/03/2008 16:49:32 Arach > left a ton of officer mods in the corp hangar there 14/03/2008 16:49:38 Me > eedyot 14/03/2008 16:49:43 Arach > so now i'm like "GEE MUST'VE BEEN AN INCOMPETENT THIEF" 14/03/2008 16:49:52 Arach > "HMM DIFFERENT MO, SINCE THIS POS GOT LEFT ONLINE" 14/03/2008 16:50:00 Arach > "MAYBE THIEF ONLY HAS POS ROLES AND NOT ACCESS TO THE HANGAR" 14/03/2008 16:50:10 Arach > but turns out the mods were in modules section ;\ 14/03/2008 16:50:13 Arach > which everyone has access to 14/03/2008 16:50:19 Me > uh oh 14/03/2008 16:50:38 Arach > 's ok tho, gives me reasonable doubt 14/03/2008 16:50:44 Arach > the people who think i stole jim's 14/03/2008 16:50:46 Arach > think i didn't steal shone's
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Computhus
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Epic |

Morris Falter
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13/03/2008 20:09:11 Arach > HG wants to make sure you don't tell anyone you got it from him 13/03/2008 20:09:20 Me >rg 13/03/2008 20:09:23 Arach > [20:08] <&HellGremlin> Make sure he tells no-one that he got it from Istvaan 13/03/2008 20:10:38 Me >fack this thing is big 13/03/2008 20:11:25 Arach > HG alreday wrote a shortstory about stealing it
13/03/2008 20:51:46 Arach > lmao 13/03/2008 20:51:47 Arach > two wyverns in local now ;O 13/03/2008 20:52:07 Arach > what is it with rich stupid people in umcon having useless wyverns 13/03/2008 20:52:12 Me >kidding 13/03/2008 20:52:14 Arach > that they just buy to prop their *****es up 13/03/2008 20:52:14 Me >who? 13/03/2008 20:52:16 Arach > and then never use them 13/03/2008 20:52:33 Arach > shone 13/03/2008 20:52:40 Arach > he bought my silver magnate for 26 bil too
13/03/2008 20:55:05 Arach > holy **** 13/03/2008 20:55:09 Arach > this officer fit is even better than jim's 13/03/2008 20:55:44 Arach > 2 officer cap recharge mods 13/03/2008 20:55:49 Arach > 2 pith a-type shield boost amp 13/03/2008 20:55:54 Me >nb.. 13/03/2008 20:55:59 Arach > 3 pith x-type hardener 13/03/2008 20:56:01 Arach > 1 thon hardener 13/03/2008 20:56:04 Arach > kaikka cloak 13/03/2008 20:56:19 Arach > 2 t2 ccc 13/03/2008 20:56:20 Arach > 1 1 13/03/2008 20:56:23 Arach > t1 13/03/2008 20:57:29 Arach > gdi 13/03/2008 20:57:30 Arach > nothing in ship maint or cha 13/03/2008 20:57:39 Arach > i was hoping for officer smartbombs or tobias web/scram 13/03/2008 20:57:44 Arach > ohwell
There is lots lots more, but that should give you the idea. Next chatlog is from the day after.
14/03/2008 16:47:48 Me > yo 14/03/2008 16:47:53 Me > is mr bork online? 14/03/2008 16:48:01 Me > im goig to destroy his clone and see what happens 14/03/2008 16:48:08 Arach > he's not online atm no 14/03/2008 16:48:12 Arach > he'll be in #iac when he shows up 14/03/2008 16:48:14 Me > ok 14/03/2008 16:48:22 Arach > they noticed you renamed ship just now 14/03/2008 16:48:33 Me > i renamed it twice 14/03/2008 16:48:42 Me > was going to rename it TYRRAX DUN IT LALZ 14/03/2008 16:48:45 Me > but thougth better 14/03/2008 16:49:18 Arach > man 14/03/2008 16:49:20 Arach > ******* selene 14/03/2008 16:49:24 Arach > he totally bungled the second theft 14/03/2008 16:49:28 Me > how so? 14/03/2008 16:49:32 Arach > left a ton of officer mods in the corp hangar there 14/03/2008 16:49:38 Me > eedyot 14/03/2008 16:49:43 Arach > so now i'm like "GEE MUST'VE BEEN AN INCOMPETENT THIEF" 14/03/2008 16:49:52 Arach > "HMM DIFFERENT MO, SINCE THIS POS GOT LEFT ONLINE" 14/03/2008 16:50:00 Arach > "MAYBE THIEF ONLY HAS POS ROLES AND NOT ACCESS TO THE HANGAR" 14/03/2008 16:50:10 Arach > but turns out the mods were in modules section ;\ 14/03/2008 16:50:13 Arach > which everyone has access to 14/03/2008 16:50:19 Me > uh oh 14/03/2008 16:50:38 Arach > 's ok tho, gives me reasonable doubt 14/03/2008 16:50:44 Arach > the people who think i stole jim's 14/03/2008 16:50:46 Arach > think i didn't steal shone's
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Computhus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:41:00 -
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Epic |

Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:43:00 -
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And, finally as he realises I'm not going to pay for it... :D
17/03/2008 17:27:23 Arach > isks? 17/03/2008 18:04:10 Me > well, i think you've made enough isk from this theft 17/03/2008 18:42:45 Arach > well give it back then 17/03/2008 18:42:47 Arach > and I'll return your 1.5 bil 17/03/2008 18:43:27 Arach > you're scamming me 17/03/2008 18:43:31 Arach > is that correct ? 17/03/2008 18:43:49 Arach > give the ship back 17/03/2008 18:44:28 Arach > you made an offer, I accepted it 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > so you decide that I don't deserve you honoring the deal you made ? 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > HELLO 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > we've got two options, you honor our deal or you return the ship 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > I don't think you're going to like the path you're choosing 17/03/2008 18:47:05 Me > maybe not 17/03/2008 18:47:19 Me > but theft is kinda ugly 17/03/2008 18:47:20 Arach > rgr that 17/03/2008 18:47:34 Me > as is shipping off hot ms 17/03/2008 18:47:39 Arach > i thought we were friends 17/03/2008 18:47:40 Me > =s 17/03/2008 18:47:52 Arach > sorry i trusted you 17/03/2008 18:47:53 Me > well, i was actually writing a second section to your bit 17/03/2008 18:48:00 Me > to kinda explain =] 17/03/2008 18:48:07 Me > hang on i'll send it 17/03/2008 18:48:08 Arach > explain it to your corpmates 17/03/2008 18:48:12 Arach > not interested 17/03/2008 18:49:39 Me > so what to do? 17/03/2008 18:49:58 Arach > lol 17/03/2008 18:50:18 Arach > send me an evemail if you decide to return it 17/03/2008 18:50:23 Arach > blocking you on msn
Make of it what you will. Jim, I'm sorry, we have what used to be your wyvern now. We won't be giving it back. I don't know you, but I hope you learn well from this for your next project.
This was all done with agreement of Collective's directorate group (Thanks, Digiblast, Sith8).
In conclusion, be aware of your surroundings, be interested in what happens around you, and remember your roots.
And don't trust strangers...
Thank you for your time.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:43:00 -
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And, finally as he realises I'm not going to pay for it... :D
17/03/2008 17:27:23 Arach > isks? 17/03/2008 18:04:10 Me > well, i think you've made enough isk from this theft 17/03/2008 18:42:45 Arach > well give it back then 17/03/2008 18:42:47 Arach > and I'll return your 1.5 bil 17/03/2008 18:43:27 Arach > you're scamming me 17/03/2008 18:43:31 Arach > is that correct ? 17/03/2008 18:43:49 Arach > give the ship back 17/03/2008 18:44:28 Arach > you made an offer, I accepted it 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > so you decide that I don't deserve you honoring the deal you made ? 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > HELLO 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > we've got two options, you honor our deal or you return the ship 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > I don't think you're going to like the path you're choosing 17/03/2008 18:47:05 Me > maybe not 17/03/2008 18:47:19 Me > but theft is kinda ugly 17/03/2008 18:47:20 Arach > rgr that 17/03/2008 18:47:34 Me > as is shipping off hot ms 17/03/2008 18:47:39 Arach > i thought we were friends 17/03/2008 18:47:40 Me > =s 17/03/2008 18:47:52 Arach > sorry i trusted you 17/03/2008 18:47:53 Me > well, i was actually writing a second section to your bit 17/03/2008 18:48:00 Me > to kinda explain =] 17/03/2008 18:48:07 Me > hang on i'll send it 17/03/2008 18:48:08 Arach > explain it to your corpmates 17/03/2008 18:48:12 Arach > not interested 17/03/2008 18:49:39 Me > so what to do? 17/03/2008 18:49:58 Arach > lol 17/03/2008 18:50:18 Arach > send me an evemail if you decide to return it 17/03/2008 18:50:23 Arach > blocking you on msn
Make of it what you will. Jim, I'm sorry, we have what used to be your wyvern now. We won't be giving it back. I don't know you, but I hope you learn well from this for your next project.
This was all done with agreement of Collective's directorate group (Thanks, Digiblast, Sith8).
In conclusion, be aware of your surroundings, be interested in what happens around you, and remember your roots.
And don't trust strangers...
Thank you for your time.
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Bacilius
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:44:00 -
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The hat made him do it.
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Bacilius
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:44:00 -
[16]
The hat made him do it.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:46:00 -
[17]
Funny to see the corp thief say "I thought we were friends... blocking you on MSN now"
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CRUSH3R
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:49:00 -
[18]
AAA pilots, please, stay polite in this discussion!
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Von Zarovick
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:49:00 -
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Slaver666
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:50:00 -
[20]
Scamming thieves 4tw?  Meh. . . |

Smalum
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:51:00 -
[21]
epic 
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Ted Raald
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:52:00 -
[22]
Edited by: Ted Raald on 02/04/2008 09:52:11 Way to go Mo 
1st page in epic thread, see someone had to say that :)
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Fesken Rans
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:53:00 -
[23]
10/10 dramabomb.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:55:00 -
[24]
All personal feelings towards IAC aside (which I dont really have tbh)
Corp Theft is fkin Low from anyone, from the "leader" its just simply disgusting.
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Elliott Manchild
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 09:56:00 -
[25]
Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 02/04/2008 09:56:25 <3 col
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:00:00 -
[26]
Good times man, good times :D ------ I speak on behalf of my corporation PS. You suck |

Sith8
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:00:00 -
[27]
And now you know where the 3x TT spawn in 49- came from.
Archon,Paladin and a Bhaalgorn.
When I first heard of this oppotunity I was sceptic about it since scamming allies is never a good idea, but when I heard that he stole it from his corp mates I was all for it. I really liked the TT post in Jims thread where TT says something along those lines: I¦m TT leader of IAC and UMCON and I don¦t steal from my corpm8¦s. Well played Arach, your greed got the better of you this time.
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Gilla Rouge
Infinity Enterprises Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:01:00 -
[28]
Originally by: KIAEddZ All personal feelings towards IAC aside (which I dont really have tbh)
Corp Theft is fkin Low from anyone, from the "leader" its just simply disgusting.
/signed...
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Foxxer
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:02:00 -
[29]
<3 MO
Your SIG is to big please reduce it to fit these limits
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Zandramus
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:02:00 -
[30]
epic...
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Kriger
x13
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:03:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Morris Falter
Make of it what you will. Jim, I'm sorry, we have what used to be your wyvern now. We won't be giving it back. I don't know you, but I hope you learn well from this for your next project.
so.. a really long post that boils down to that you stole a wyv from poor jim (regardless of your dealings with the corp thief). What was the point again...?
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pardux
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:03:00 -
[32]

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Ikith
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:03:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Ikith on 02/04/2008 10:04:09 Holy ****! Nice turn on this one , epic thread tbqfh 
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Elfaen Ethenwe
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:04:00 -
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there's a lot of karma knocking around recently.
I remember jim farming constantly a couple of month back when i lived in curse. Seemed a nice enough guy. Well played AAA tbh.
<><><>Together we gank, devided we pop<><><><>
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:05:00 -
[35]
Added some pictures at end, for some more context.
Thanks,
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:05:00 -
[36]
First page in drama bomb!! Excellent!!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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DT3
Reblious Colonial Miners Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:05:00 -
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I am surprised no one has said this yet but...
Karma is a bit*h What goes around, comes around.
Tyraxx, I hope you learned a valuable lesson at the expense of your reputation.
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:09:00 -
[38]
can someone summarise, the chat logs please
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Viral Shadow
The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:10:00 -
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there you go then mister i denie everything.
you just got got at your own game.
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DT3
Reblious Colonial Miners Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:11:00 -
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Summary:
Tyraxx stole Jim's mothership. Tyraxx got scammed by the AAA guy who bought it for 1.5b.
Summarized.
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KIAEddZ
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:13:00 -
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I thikn actually it summarises that Tyrrax stole 2 Moms. the second with "better fitting than the first!"
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: DT3 Summary:
Tyraxx stole Jim's mothership. Tyraxx got scammed by the AAA guy who bought it for 1.5b.
Summarized.
That is not nice 
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Sith8
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:15:00 -
[43]
Yes he stole 2 Wyverns. One from Shone (with really nice fit) One from Jim Lovell (with less nice fit)
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MasterOB1
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:16:00 -
[44]
lol best read on the eve forums for a while
Karma is bliss
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SilverRat
Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:16:00 -
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If its true IAC deserve to die.
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DT3
Reblious Colonial Miners Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:16:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Sith8 Yes he stole 2 Wyverns. One from Shone (with really nice fit) One from Jim Lovell (with less nice fit)
Ok, I clearly fail at summarizing.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:16:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Morris Falter
17/03/2008 18:47:39 Arach > i thought we were friends 17/03/2008 18:47:40 Me > =s 17/03/2008 18:47:52 Arach > sorry i trusted you
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Meja
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:18:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Meja on 02/04/2008 10:18:18

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Jane Sylari
Critical Analysis R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:19:00 -
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11/10 
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:20:00 -
[50]
lolz, totally deserved to get scammed like that.. low-life ________________________ Comming back June 5th...
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 02/04/2008 10:26:06 In all honesty, I think triple A are awsome pilots in PVP with almost never any smack. They are a real challenge to fight and my frequent encounters with them have changed my outlook and tactics in PVP alot.
It would be awesome to see them return the Wyvern to Jim Lovell, which would make a happy end of a sad event.
I would for myself respect triple A alot if they'd actually be MAN enough to do that.
Just my opinion. (ps. I think stealing, especially from corp or alliance mates is sucky, especially like in the case of Jim, where he actually built and fitted the ship through his own hard work)
PS. I DID SAY I SAW ALOT OF GHSC MEMBERS AROUND CVA SPACE AND TOWARDS R3 (which leads to Biphi pipe around the time of the theft, upon which Thyrrax goes, nooooo... they cant be involved...)
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andys cz
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:22:00 -
[52]
Yay
Pew Pew 
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CRUSH3R
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: andys cz Yay
Pew Pew 
wrong topic n00b, the reset one is below ;-)
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saaraa
The Fated Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:26:00 -
[54]
Makes u wonder what else has been cooking in IAC.
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Bobbechk
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:26:00 -
[55]
\o/ +10
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Silas Beit
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:28:00 -
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posting in an epic thread, well done you AAA guy. lol at Tyraxx 'loser' Thorkk you get what you deserve mate. Looks like karma is restored.
rofl.
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Koti Resci
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:29:00 -
[57]
Absolutely epic.
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Chandilas
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:35:00 -
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There's a possibility that he stole my apoc too from our corporate array when my corp was Fix in 49-u. I never investigated too much because I was on holiday but rumors in Legio said that he could have been the thief. :crying: and he probably killed my hamster too.
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Calmdown
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:36:00 -
[59]
Ahahahaha epic win.
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Smalum
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:38:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Chandilas and he probably killed my hamster too.
no, that was wainak 
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Ace Frehley
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:39:00 -
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MF is cool anyway 
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Murtala
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:41:00 -
[62]
I donÆt get it, he is the leader of the IAC alliance.
Many people have fought and died because of him.
Why??
this thrad needs more emo
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:41:00 -
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oh dear i just read this thread...
(jim Lovell alt).....
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Smith
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:42:00 -
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But are there any wyverns still going for sale?
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A Sinner
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Murtala I donÆt get it, he is the leader of the IAC alliance.
Many people have fought and died because of him.
Why??
this thrad needs more emo
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Xiong Yoshi
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: tropic24 oh dear i just read this thread...
(jim Lovell alt).....
Jim. I had hoped you were wrong, but had a feeling that you weren't. ------------------------------------------------ There are only two types of ships: those which have blown up; and those which will.
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Destoration
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:48:00 -
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I must say well played by AAA and congratulations.....TT got what he deserved. I do feel a bit sorry for jim but then maybe if he'd stored his ms on a alt it wouldn't have gotten stolen so well he just needs to get over it.
Epic Thread / Rate 10/10!
-Destoration
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Hey You
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:49:00 -
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awesome just awesome :=) Now to see him in empire without any space and then karma is complete :)
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Kal'Kalagan
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:52:00 -
[69]
/me eagerly awaits a Tyrrax response.
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Niobius Julius
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:52:00 -
[70]
More COAD drama! O M G...
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 11:00:01 I understand Arach's alliance access has been removed? Not entirely sure whats going on with that, but there's some kind of confidence issue...
Perhaps someone inside IAC can let us know.
edit: also, hi to all old friends reading this ;D
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Kriger
x13
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Morris Falter Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 11:00:01 I understand Arach's alliance access has been removed? Not entirely sure whats going on with that, but there's some kind of confidence issue...
Perhaps someone inside IAC can let us know.
edit: also, hi to all old friends reading this ;D
So whens Jim getting his Wyv back?
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Lorna Loot
Nox Eternus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:02:00 -
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In Before TT's I didnt do it honest poast. --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info. |

Joe Widowmaker
Nexus Analytics Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:04:00 -
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...  
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A Sinner
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:07:00 -
[75]
yeah afaik his acces was removed, directors are debating on the matter ----------------------- "There are no ugly women, just men who didn't have enough to drink" |

Jason Carling
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:08:00 -
[76]
Well Played!
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Max Teranous
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:10:00 -
[77]
There's been some good forum pron recently.
It'd be pretty simple if i was an IAC pilot right now, either TT is gone or i would be.
Max  |

Mr Poaster
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:11:00 -
[78]
Hah, what scum.
Better get rid off whole IAC.. I mean, it's infested, who'd in their right mind would trust them with anything ? What corp would join them, what player would join a corp there ?
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:17:00 -
[79]
Thats epic  -----
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N'olive
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:18:00 -
[80]
I don't really care the story and all such spy/scam/thief/etc thingies, what puzzles me is why is there "Me>" in the logs, instead of the char name, why was it edited ? _____________________________________________________ Olivier C., providing fleet support since 1902. - My Eve videos |

Lowa
North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:20:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Lowa on 02/04/2008 11:31:05
Man...and I thought the award for 'Most Proper EVE Drama Q1/Q2 2008' would go to RA vs SDG. 
No matter how I dislike this place and its complete fall from grace there is still some dark wicked parts of my soul that takes perverse pleasure in it once the actuall good stuff* comes a long. This story just being one in a row of many good revelations to come out lately. 
Thank you. *Corptheft is never good though.
So where does that leave us with the overall Drama for combatants in RSF vs GBC?
BoB - Been somewhat robbed (Evol isk and personal MS given to IAC (or was he GH-SC too?)) Goons - Titan found (x2?), internall changes of management in more or less chaotic ways TCF - Director and main FC left for BoB RA - Internal struggle ended with SDG leaving/kicked with associated, absolute top-notch post, on russian forums by MACTEP. IAC - I think just took No.1 spot on Drama ladder AAA - None really. Just being the bringer of Drama instead of capital Death in this case.
IRON, RZR, Morsus Mihi, Pandemic Legion - Needs improvement. 
Regards, Lowa
This is ofc not to be taken too seriously, just realized that most big players have hade some proper drama over the course of the war.
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Pagefault
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:20:00 -
[82]
Originally by: N'olive I don't really care the story and all such spy/scam/thief/etc thingies, what puzzles me is why is there "Me>" in the logs, instead of the char name, why was it edited ?
Cause it was on MSN? ------------------
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DrRockIT
Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:21:00 -
[83]
Nice to hear that TT had to swallow some of his own medicine... but like mentioned before happy end would be the return of the wyvern to its original owner.
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:24:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Max Teranous There's been some good forum pron recently.
It'd be pretty simple if i was an IAC pilot right now, either TT is gone or i would be.
Well TT is kos for me from now, i gonna shoot his ass whenever i see him.
And yeah all the IAC drama started when TT came suddenly back to IAC and croned himself to prez again.
Fock him tbh,
/burp
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Johnatan
VVS Corporition Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:28:00 -
[85]
Lowa It¦s Q2.
Kriger MOAR posts plz!! :)
MO As i said it before, MO is awesome. MO is great!! :) ---- start cut here ---- Evil Thug`s alt. ----- end cut here ----- |

Roemy Schneider
BINFORD Solidus Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:28:00 -
[86]
so... he's still up 1.5bil? - putting the gist back into logistics |

Al Ugilac
Malevolent Intervention Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:29:00 -
[87]
Epic 
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Loreth
V.L.A.S.T. Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:31:00 -
[88]
Oh man ... and i thought its all just pixels  This however smells like a lot of dissapointment for those involved... and cheap fun for us yay 
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Lowa
North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:31:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Johnatan Lowa It¦s Q2.
It is but technically RA vs SDG happened in Q1. 
But wth, I'll edit it to double safe my self. 
/Lowa
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Muadeeb Ousil
Office linebackers Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:36:00 -
[90]
This is only confirming what the majority of us already knew.
IAC has been bleeding corps hand over fist since TT came back, at last count 6 or 7 - there will be more.
They are replacing them almost as fast though, but i hope they know what they are letting themselves in for.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:38:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Kriger Edited by: Kriger on 02/04/2008 10:58:35
Originally by: 128th ABC123
It would be awesome to see them return the Wyvern to Jim Lovell, which would make a happy end of a sad event.
I would for myself respect triple A alot if they'd actually be MAN enough to do that.
I believe the OP already covered that. AAA are not gonna do that. They are just here to point out that Tyrrax is a sob and a corp thief and that stealing is bad.. hmm but wait.. something is off here.. *thinking* well good thing Tyrrax stole Jims Wyv so AAA could steal it, thereby giving AAA the opportunity to teach Tyrrax a lesson in karma *thumbs up AAA* Looking forward to the next ethics class from AAA Oh yea.. the above is irony btw. AAA you score absolutely 0 points unless you actually give Jim his Wyv back. Period. Tyrrax might be a lowlife but fact remains you have a stolen Wyv in your possesion, so if you indeed wish to be the guardians of decency and good ethics here, then there's still an outstanding issue there. If not, well grats, but what exactly makes you any better than Tyrrax?
If this is a PR thread thats supposed to make Tyrrax look bad, and AAA good, it fails miserably.
It makes Tyrrax look bad, and AAA about the same.
THIS. As I said before I think -A- are awesome pvp'rs and its allways a thrill to fight them, and even more so to actually win a fight. But I (and I'm sure alot of others) would really respect them as a disciplined fighting machine if they'd honor some level of ethics. The honorfull thing to do would be to return the Wyvern or work a deal out with Jim for him to get it back. Tbh, IAC alliance should pay for at least a portion to make up for crappy leadership and compensation of their member(s).
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:39:00 -
[92]
from http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=732210&page=1#17
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Oh look, more threads about me, I think I'm going to overdose on all the attention ;O
I deny everything as always !
grabbing Doritos and salsa dip
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:40:00 -
[93]
Just wow...
If this thread was a Saudi its name would be Odrama bin Laden
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |

Muadeeb Ousil
Office linebackers Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:40:00 -
[94]
IAC pay up for it?>
Lol'z - IAC are teh Bankroopted !
Last i checked IAC owed Tyrax 5-6 Billion isk for a loan, so not paying that back is a start (although when i left i believe plans were in place to do so).
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:41:00 -
[95]
Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik If this thread was a Saudi its name would be Odrama bin Laden
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seliana tanis
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:45:00 -
[96]
Epic
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darkst0rm
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:46:00 -
[97]
ouch!
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Jake Noble
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:47:00 -
[98]
Nice morris, remember that horribly fit vagabond I gave you? Well I think its only fair you give me the wyvern in exchange! Signature removed and advised that using RL photos of players without their permission is not acceptable. Navigator |

Matt Wolfe
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:47:00 -
[99]
poasting in an epic thread |

Jouni Kalmar
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:49:00 -
[100]
Originally by: SilverRat If its true IAC deserve to die.
How can you say that from the actions of a hand full of members? Every alliance has their kids with special needs, IACs are just more public.
As a founder of IAC if what is heald in this thread is true I truely hope those involved are removed form IAC and its. Its a pretty low move even for someone wearing a pink hat.
And for the record, like most of IAC, tyrrax sat back while jim was being attacked in his mom, it took me and my f*g wagon (moros) to save the day until more pilots came to play and save his drunk behind. Its true that he had to be babysat till DT, but tyrrax wasn't the one to initially get into the fight to save the mom. After the events i shouldn't have, and just let Jims ship die, atleast then he would have gotten some isk back. Sorry jim.
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Schneiderr
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:50:00 -
[101]
/me getting entertained today /me likes
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Voldemora
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:50:00 -
[102]
Well its just sad to see this all happen. I know that there where a lot of people in the IAC Alliance who looked up at him as "the" great leader of all.
But you see now, TT steels from his own corp/alliance, its just a sad thing to do. I wonder what will happen now. Will TT be kicked from the entire alliance?? 
Or will he be forgiven???
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Destoration
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:51:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Voldemora Well its just sad to see this all happen. I know that there where a lot of people in the IAC Alliance who looked up at him as "the" great leader of all.
But you see now, TT steels from his own corp/alliance, its just a sad thing to do. I wonder what will happen now. Will TT be kicked from the entire alliance?? 
Or will he be forgiven???
I highly doubt the last part will ever happen
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spange bob
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:54:00 -
[104]
gl IAC.
and TT for world wide KOS.
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tigress
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:55:00 -
[105]
I admit when I am wrong, sucks to be fooled.
Forgiveness? OMG, never in hell. Lowest of low.
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More money
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:55:00 -
[106]
Edited by: More money on 02/04/2008 11:55:11
Originally by: Mr Poaster
Better get rid off whole IAC.. I mean, it's infested, who'd in their right mind would trust them with anything ? What corp would join them, what player would join a corp there ?
Tough luck IAC members, have fun looking for new alliance.
Dont blame whole IAC for that what hand full of its members has done. There is lots of good corps and ppl in IAC. But yeah this sucks...
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Xiamin Dia
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:59:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Xiamin Dia on 02/04/2008 12:00:48 Edited by: Xiamin Dia on 02/04/2008 12:00:13 So then what about The IAC MS's that TRI took, would that be the same or... has the rumor mill gone berserk 
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Jouni Kalmar
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 11:59:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Pagefault
Originally by: N'olive I don't really care the story and all such spy/scam/thief/etc thingies, what puzzles me is why is there "Me>" in the logs, instead of the char name, why was it edited ?
Cause it was on MSN?
An MSN log looks like this
AÖ says: so how much of thread is true?
or this
2/04/2008 10:49:59 PM AÖ Tyrrax so how much of thread is true?
it is not Me >
the log IS edited, he should post the orignal.
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Johnatan
VVS Corporition Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:00:00 -
[109]
As i understood, TT was not alone in this, from IAC. What to other members? ---- start cut here ---- Evil Thug`s alt. ----- end cut here ----- |

ishkabibble
Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:00:00 -
[110]
Highly entertaining, what a great week for CAOD
But, nothing really surprises me when it comes from TT.
TT is the kind of guy you can throw out of a airplane 30k in the air and he would still land on his feet (even with the pink hat still on.) Never argue with an Idiot. They'll bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience |

Voldemora
Fire Wings of Destiny Brotherhood of Nod.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:00:00 -
[111]
Originally by: More money Edited by: More money on 02/04/2008 11:55:11
Dont blame whole IAC for that what hand full of its members has done. There is lots of good corps and ppl in IAC.
Quote:
I have to agree on that last part
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Sith Bandon
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:00:00 -
[112]
<3 col
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Dungar Loghoth
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:04:00 -
[113]
That's some high-quality drama right there. Nice job Morris. ---
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:05:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 12:05:42
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
Originally by: Pagefault
Originally by: N'olive I don't really care the story and all such spy/scam/thief/etc thingies, what puzzles me is why is there "Me>" in the logs, instead of the char name, why was it edited ?
Cause it was on MSN?
An MSN log looks like this
AÖ says: so how much of thread is true?
or this
2/04/2008 10:49:59 PM AÖ Tyrrax so how much of thread is true?
it is not Me >
the log IS edited, he should post the orignal.
It was, I removed both myself and arach's real names from the log. Its copied from the "View history" bit of msn, when you right click on the contact name etc.
I'm happy to share whatever with a trusted third party who can verify this is true, but I dont want to spread anyone's RL / OOG details.
@ jon, basically all of umcon's directors knew about this, I can't comment further on any other IAC corps.
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Muadeeb Ousil
Office linebackers Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:06:00 -
[115]
Who knows, the power is split between Umcom, Genco (rushing to build IAC's first titan) with Promo who do most of the ***** work for the alliance now.
TTTI own the Dypro moon in 36n and have been leaching its reources for years without paying back any return into the Alliance in terms of infrastructure or Pvp'rs, (You will only ever find 2 TTTI guys on the KB, rest were mission *****s up in Aranir) so they should have some isk available to give some back to Jim (as could Jims new corp Genco).
There are some good corps left in IAC, i feel so sorry for the main FC - Hachou who really is a nice guy with a great corp (XMX), however they wouldn't attempt to dispose of TT, they arn't into the politics of it. Kilson wouldn't touch it either and TMK and MINC have been there done that and at this moment in time must be wondering what has become of what was once a great community of people.
Sad times.
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Maxima Maxi
Pink Bunnies C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:06:00 -
[116]
I loled, gg -A-
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Lasakywa
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:10:00 -
[117]
fkin awesome 
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Minaras Laentic
The Athiest Syndicate INT0XICATI0N
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:11:00 -
[118]
How can someone with such a pink hat do something this low
Poor Jim tho, atleast let him buy it back at a reduced price if u really want a "finders fee" 
Only people who fails in real life quote's themselves
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Jouni Kalmar
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:13:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 02/04/2008 12:13:45
Originally by: Morris Falter Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 12:05:42
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
<snip>
An MSN log looks like this
AÖ says: so how much of thread is true?
or this
2/04/2008 10:49:59 PM AÖ Tyrrax so how much of thread is true?
it is not Me >
the log IS edited, he should post the orignal.
It was, I removed both myself and arach's real names from the log. Its copied from the "View history" bit of msn, when you right click on the contact name etc.
I'm happy to share whatever with a trusted third party who can verify this is true, but I dont want to spread anyone's RL / OOG details.
@ jon, basically all of umcon's directors knew about this, I can't comment further on any other IAC corps.
as i said, its not heres the format as i posted before
1/03/2008 9:31:57 PM AÖ Tyrrax i wanna kill unl 1/03/2008 9:32:11 PM Tyrrax AÖ me too
real log, or stfu.
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Jake Noble
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:18:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 02/04/2008 12:13:45
Originally by: Morris Falter Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 12:05:42
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
<snip>
An MSN log looks like this
AÖ says: so how much of thread is true?
or this
2/04/2008 10:49:59 PM AÖ Tyrrax so how much of thread is true?
it is not Me >
the log IS edited, he should post the orignal.
It was, I removed both myself and arach's real names from the log. Its copied from the "View history" bit of msn, when you right click on the contact name etc.
I'm happy to share whatever with a trusted third party who can verify this is true, but I dont want to spread anyone's RL / OOG details.
@ jon, basically all of umcon's directors knew about this, I can't comment further on any other IAC corps.
as i said, its not heres the format as i posted before
1/03/2008 9:31:57 PM AÖ Tyrrax i wanna kill unl 1/03/2008 9:32:11 PM Tyrrax AÖ me too
real log, or stfu.
How about you stfu seeing as everyone else know its real. Moron. Signature removed and advised that using RL photos of players without their permission is not acceptable. Navigator |

Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:20:00 -
[121]
Seeing as posting RL info is a big booboo, I doubt it's going to happen anyways 
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tORNFISH
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:22:00 -
[122]
epic lol Sherlock Holmes , would be envious. 
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:24:00 -
[123]
Tyrrax is still awesome, but, as has always been the case, I wouldn't want to knowingly be in a corp with him 
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Betty Rubble
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:25:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
real log, or stfu.
Yer, cause posting OOG details of players is against EULA and would be censored. So you're asking him to (stfu) or stfu? Clever maaaate...
Loving it. Mo 4tw
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Mangold
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:26:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Morris Falter Rumours of intel being traded from Tyrrax directly to hostiles are also circulating - but I cannot give any more information on that.
There were reports of the same thing when he had one alt in the amarr camp (tyrraxx) and another one (Hamish) in the minmatar freedom fighters group. Nothing confirmed though and in all fairness, that IS ancient history. Must have been in 2003 or early 2004.
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Barl faren
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:26:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Barl faren on 02/04/2008 12:26:32 Good Luck IAC, You have some great players, YOU WILL BE FINE
GIVE BACK JIMS MOM AAA
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=740037
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Dungar Loghoth
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:27:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 02/04/2008 12:27:20 Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 02/04/2008 12:27:07
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
as i said, its not heres the format as i posted before
1/03/2008 9:31:57 PM AÖ Tyrrax i wanna kill unl 1/03/2008 9:32:11 PM Tyrrax AÖ me too
real log, or stfu.
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
How can you say that from the actions of a hand full of members? Every alliance has their kids with special needs, IACs are just more public.
I'm glad you stepped up to the plate to be our kid with special needs. ---
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Rev Fernie
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:27:00 -
[128]
UMCON Directors that matter did NOT know about this until now and where certanily not involved.
Reference to UMCON leadership being invovled in the original chat log, would be to those named in that log. Not UMCON Leadership as a whole.
I gather my fellow Directors will be in discussion as we speak (sucks being at work )I guess a more offical annoucment will be forthcoming.
I apologies to Jim and Shone for being blind to this happening around us.
Rev
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Jouni Kalmar
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:29:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Jake Noble How about you stfu seeing as everyone else know its real. Moron.[/quote
Mate, yes the pics are good proof, but the log is not what it is claimed to be, i'm sorry if you disagree with me but its a fact that its edited. I'm not asking for the whole thing, just a sectio.
MSN logs as he claims it to be are in the format i posted, not in the format he posted, what he posted is more like an in game chat log or an IRC log, please go learn the difference.
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MAXSuicide
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:29:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Morris Falter Edited by: Morris Falter on 02/04/2008 10:00:59 And, finally as he realises I'm not going to pay for it... :D
17/03/2008 17:27:23 Arach > isks? 17/03/2008 18:04:10 Me > well, i think you've made enough isk from this theft 17/03/2008 18:42:45 Arach > well give it back then 17/03/2008 18:42:47 Arach > and I'll return your 1.5 bil 17/03/2008 18:43:27 Arach > you're scamming me 17/03/2008 18:43:31 Arach > is that correct ? 17/03/2008 18:43:49 Arach > give the ship back 17/03/2008 18:44:28 Arach > you made an offer, I accepted it 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > so you decide that I don't deserve you honoring the deal you made ?17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > HELLO 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > we've got two options, you honor our deal or you return the ship 17/03/2008 18:46:56 Arach > I don't think you're going to like the path you're choosing 17/03/2008 18:47:05 Me > maybe not 17/03/2008 18:47:19 Me > but theft is kinda ugly 17/03/2008 18:47:20 Arach > rgr that 17/03/2008 18:47:34 Me > as is shipping off hot ms 17/03/2008 18:47:39 Arach > i thought we were friends 17/03/2008 18:47:40 Me > =s 17/03/2008 18:47:52 Arach > sorry i trusted you 17/03/2008 18:47:53 Me > well, i was actually writing a second section to your bit 17/03/2008 18:48:00 Me > to kinda explain =] 17/03/2008 18:48:07 Me > hang on i'll send it 17/03/2008 18:48:08 Arach > explain it to your corpmates 17/03/2008 18:48:12 Arach > not interested 17/03/2008 18:49:39 Me > so what to do? 17/03/2008 18:49:58 Arach > lol 17/03/2008 18:50:18 Arach > send me an evemail if you decide to return it 17/03/2008 18:50:23 Arach > blocking you on msn
Make of it what you will. Jim, I'm sorry, we have what used to be your wyvern now. We won't be giving it back. I don't know you, but I hope you learn well from this for your next project.
This was all done with agreement of Collective's directorate group (Thanks, Digiblast, Sith8).
In conclusion, be aware of your surroundings, be interested in what happens around you, and remember your roots.
And don't trust strangers...
Thank you for your time.
Pickup 1 Pickup 2 Jumpclones on ship
(Thanks ica <3)
honoes 
rofl, played AAA
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EmpO3
Quantum Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:30:00 -
[131]
This is something I have always known. Iac was an alliance set up to hold space for the profit of a few... Its as simple as that.
Its about time someone takes catch tbfh, and uses the space proper.
No hard feelings TT.
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Jouni Kalmar
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:32:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Betty Rubble
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
real log, or stfu.
Yer, cause posting OOG details of players is against EULA and would be censored. So you're asking him to (stfu) or stfu? Clever maaaate...
Loving it. Mo 4tw
as previous response. i'm not asking for contact details. I posted a sample, i would have thought people would have a clue as to what unmodified msn logs would look like, clearly i was wrong.
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Dungar Loghoth
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:33:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
Originally by: Betty Rubble
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
real log, or stfu.
Yer, cause posting OOG details of players is against EULA and would be censored. So you're asking him to (stfu) or stfu? Clever maaaate...
Loving it. Mo 4tw
as previous response. i'm not asking for contact details. I posted a sample, i would have thought people would have a clue as to what unmodified msn logs would look like, clearly i was wrong.
We have a COAD ban for a reason. Please observe it. ---
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Paddington
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:33:00 -
[134]
Nice work, Tyrrax is a slimy piece of ****...
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Bastables
The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:34:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Bastables on 02/04/2008 12:35:18
Originally by: Mangold
Originally by: Morris Falter Rumours of intel being traded from Tyrrax directly to hostiles are also circulating - but I cannot give any more information on that.
There were reports of the same thing when he had one alt in the amarr camp (tyrraxx) and another one (Hamish) in the minmatar freedom fighters group. Nothing confirmed though and in all fairness, that IS ancient history. Must have been in 2003 or early 2004.
More than rumours. AM alliance obtained his ip passed it on to UK. UK ran a check on their forums and matched Hamish's posts, they then booted Hamish. Hell gremlin/istvaan had to end his rp story with Hamish dieing as the charecter was no longer valid a oprative or HG storyline. Done in tandam with robbing tyrrax's old GHSC external corp. Be reclaimed, and be loved
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Captain Rickdick
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:36:00 -
[136]
Quote: Arach > I don't think you're going to like the path you're choosing
This!
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MAXSuicide
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:37:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
Originally by: Betty Rubble
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
real log, or stfu.
Yer, cause posting OOG details of players is against EULA and would be censored. So you're asking him to (stfu) or stfu? Clever maaaate...
Loving it. Mo 4tw
as previous response. i'm not asking for contact details. I posted a sample, i would have thought people would have a clue as to what unmodified msn logs would look like, clearly i was wrong.
We have a COAD ban for a reason. Please observe it.
we do?
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Lardarz B'stard
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:37:00 -
[138]
A truly splendid act of dramabombing 12/10
Originally by: Kindakrof there is no gravity in space
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VileLust
The humble Crew Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:37:00 -
[139]
Anymore ODD members.. dont post please.
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:38:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Lardarz B'stard A truly splendid act of dramabombing 12/10
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Valeryana
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:39:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Rev Fernie UMCON Directors that matter did NOT know about this until now and where certanily not involved.
Reference to UMCON leadership being invovled in the original chat log, would be to those named in that log. Not UMCON Leadership as a whole.
I gather my fellow Directors will be in discussion as we speak (sucks being at work )I guess a more offical annoucment will be forthcoming.
I apologies to Jim and Shone for being blind to this happening around us.
Rev
suuuuure they didn't 
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:40:00 -
[142]
Val you were right sry i love you <3

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Seldarine
Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:41:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Valeryana
Originally by: Rev Fernie UMCON Directors that matter did NOT know about this until now and where certanily not involved.
Reference to UMCON leadership being invovled in the original chat log, would be to those named in that log. Not UMCON Leadership as a whole.
I gather my fellow Directors will be in discussion as we speak (sucks being at work )I guess a more offical annoucment will be forthcoming.
I apologies to Jim and Shone for being blind to this happening around us.
Rev
suuuuure they didn't 
seconded ______________________________
Seldarine
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Dungar Loghoth
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:43:00 -
[144]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
Originally by: Betty Rubble
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
real log, or stfu.
Yer, cause posting OOG details of players is against EULA and would be censored. So you're asking him to (stfu) or stfu? Clever maaaate...
Loving it. Mo 4tw
as previous response. i'm not asking for contact details. I posted a sample, i would have thought people would have a clue as to what unmodified msn logs would look like, clearly i was wrong.
We have a COAD ban for a reason. Please observe it.
we do?
Good posters are granted exceptions on a case by case basis. ---
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:45:00 -
[145]
pls dont change the topic
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Kasak Black
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:45:00 -
[146]
I guess you decided to go through with it then Dan? You make me epic lulz! Much love.
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Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:47:00 -
[147]
Gosh!
Posting on page 5 of the best thread in CAOD in some time. Wow!
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dimensionZ
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:47:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Mangold
Originally by: Morris Falter Rumours of intel being traded from Tyrrax directly to hostiles are also circulating - but I cannot give any more information on that.
There were reports of the same thing when he had one alt in the amarr camp (tyrraxx) and another one (Hamish) in the minmatar freedom fighters group. Nothing confirmed though and in all fairness, that IS ancient history. Must have been in 2003 or early 2004.
My informants confirm that Hamish and Tyrrax are the same person
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:51:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Victor Vision on 02/04/2008 12:51:28 Good timing, Morris and nicely written OP.
You are aware though that TT openly admitted to being part of the GH-SC, right? Also you know that TT never made a secret about borrowing a mothership?
Still your post was a nice read.
And I am sure we both agree that TT is a valueable part of the eve community. He keeps the crowds entertained. What more could you ask from anyone in a videogame... 
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki |

Narciss Sevar
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:52:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
Originally by: Betty Rubble
Originally by: Jouni Kalmar
real log, or stfu.
Yer, cause posting OOG details of players is against EULA and would be censored. So you're asking him to (stfu) or stfu? Clever maaaate...
Loving it. Mo 4tw
as previous response. i'm not asking for contact details. I posted a sample, i would have thought people would have a clue as to what unmodified msn logs would look like, clearly i was wrong.
We have a COAD ban for a reason. Please observe it.
we do?
Good posters are granted exceptions on a case by case basis.
I guess you're the exception that proves the rule then.
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Valeryana
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:52:00 -
[151]
Originally by: tropic24 Val you were right sry i love you <3

I told you,hunny..after what we seen in Hasateem and the chatlog sent you (AND Lubo btw)..you shouldn't have doubted it....btw u owe me a CNR! 
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:53:00 -
[152]
I'm late, but I am here! Awesome thread!
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:53:00 -
[153]
:P ok ,
ill make good 
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Murtala
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:54:00 -
[154]
Originally by: VileLust Anymore ODD members.. dont post please.
You could have posted this order internally but it in cool to demonstrate your Authority on COAD
Many Ceo like to make sure that there minions Respect there Authorita publicly
Lol, Have fun
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King Fury
Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:55:00 -
[155]
Theft is wrong but scammings ok? Return the ms from the initial victim (for remuneration) otherwise your no better than TT.
Saying that, getting an MS for 1.5bill means you need a career change.
Whos your next victim..........?
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FowlPlayChiken
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:04:00 -
[156]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings.-Navigator([email protected])
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Andargor theWise
The Fated Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:05:00 -
[157]
Epic. 
- Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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CCP Navigator
C C P

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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:07:00 -
[158]
Thread cleaned.
Please stay on topic and post respectfully to each other.
It is important that people do NOT post chat logs containing players real life information. That posting is not permitted and may earn you a warning/ban.
Navigator, Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:08:00 -
[159]
AAA would gain a lot of respect if they offered to give the Wyvern back to Jim.
Even offering to sell it to him for whatever they paid would show them to be honourable and generous.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:08:00 -
[160]
hrmmm :(
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Bosjathfort
Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:09:00 -
[161]
That was epix o_O,,, (>'-')> <('-'<) ^('-')^ v('-')v <('-'<) ^('-')^ (>'-')>
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Jake Noble
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:12:00 -
[162]
Originally by: CCP Navigator Thread cleaned.
Please stay on topic and post respectfully to each other.
It is important that people do NOT post chat logs containing players real life information. That posting is not permitted and may earn you a warning/ban.
Send Saint to this thread asap, there's chat logs that need nuked! Signature removed and advised that using RL photos of players without their permission is not acceptable. Navigator |

Maximillian Franek
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:15:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Maximillian Franek on 02/04/2008 13:16:42 As CEO of UMCON, I would like to make the announcement that TT's statement of "13/03/2008 18:59:03 Arach > pretty much entire umcon leadership that matters is in on it" does NOT include myself, nor anyone bar Raem Civrie and Selene Bork. The rest of the directors were NOT aware of this.
I have stripped Raem and Selene's roles, and the future of UMCON is being discussed as I type this. Even though we had our suspicions about TT and Selene, I realise that allowing this to take place under my nose reflects poorly on me as a CEO, and I would like to personally apologise to both Jim and shone for failing them.
That's about it for the moment, we will be making our own official announcement sometime in the next 24 hours. ----------------------------------------
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Kryztal
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:15:00 -
[164]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken *snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings.-Navigator([email protected])
The mod doesnt know FPC ! tsk tsk tsk *bawk*
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Koronos
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:18:00 -
[165]
Morris, you're the man. HF with your nice new boat.
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Disco Bum
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:21:00 -
[166]
I'm in a insignificant one-man-corp, and I'm setting TT red ... I hope rest of eve does the same!
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Kazandim
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:22:00 -
[167]
Length: A+ Content: A+ Drama: A+ Good Guys: B-
Overall: A-, would read again
P.S. Sell Jim his mom back for 2.5B or something, costs + finder's fee.
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J909
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:23:00 -
[168]
OMFG that is so low its lower than a snakes belly.
Morris, 10 out of 10, totally deserved, but come on be a decent man and give it back to the Jim fella for the amount you paid for it, fair is fair. ----------------------------------------------- Cash from Chaos |

Mah Kraah
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:25:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Mangold
Originally by: Morris Falter Rumours of intel being traded from Tyrrax directly to hostiles are also circulating - but I cannot give any more information on that.
There were reports of the same thing when he had one alt in the amarr camp (tyrraxx) and another one (Hamish) in the minmatar freedom fighters group. Nothing confirmed though and in all fairness, that IS ancient history. Must have been in 2003 or early 2004.
hamish tryed to takeover UK ledership in the early formation phase , he was influental on pre UK organisations such as the ppls republic of minmatar. he failed and was at some point uncoverd as traitor and undercoveragent of 3. party interests . i have no details as i was just a novice in those days. it was mid to end 2004. since than its common knowledge that tt and hamish are linked to eachothers (same person, cooperating friends or what ever) and both are ghsc operationals. the whole group around ghsc are proud in abusing personal friendship and trust for personal profit or pr and it feels real well to see that they got hit by the same. hope it teaches them how low there behavior is. without some basic ethics no society can prosper, making the ghsc/tt behavior the model for the broad comunity would mean destroying the broad comunity or at least make them insignificant as only close cooperating societys do have a chance to archive anything. no trust no cooperation no success. i real feel for IAC membership for beeing abused as personal toy for tt and ghsc since so long, might even be founded purly for this purpose 
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Aypse
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:25:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Maximillian Franek
As CEO of UMCON...
I suspect that you will find many of your pilots unable to believe what you have to say. Reducing the mechanics that reward blobbing: Eve-O Forum Link |

tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:28:00 -
[171]
I will say NOW (jim lovell alt here) what Max has said ias TRUE DO NOT think umcon directors were invilves thank you
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Disco Bum
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:30:00 -
[172]
Whereabouts of TT from agent info:
"...The sleazebag is currently in the Agil VI - Moon 2 - CONCORD Logistic Support system, Agil constellation of the Nohshayess region..."
Rat alrdy fled the ship back to empire...
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Ethen Bejorn
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:33:00 -
[173]
Originally by: tropic24 I will say NOW (jim lovell alt here) what Max has said ias TRUE DO NOT think umcon directors were invilves thank you
You also did not think Tyraxx stole your ship...I don't think your opinion carries much weight at anymore tbqh.
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Valeryana
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:36:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Ethen Bejorn
Originally by: tropic24 I will say NOW (jim lovell alt here) what Max has said ias TRUE DO NOT think umcon directors were invilves thank you
You also did not think Tyraxx stole your ship...I don't think your opinion carries much weight at anymore tbqh.
Seconded!
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:37:00 -
[175]
Hahahah <3 Morris
About time tyraxx got played, and all these fung shooe shuai whatever hippys saying that u should give it back! This is eve boys u dont like it door is thataway --->
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WeightedCompanionCube
Aperture Science Enrichment Center
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:37:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Disco Bum Whereabouts of TT from agent info:
"...The sleazebag is currently in the Agil VI - Moon 2 - CONCORD Logistic Support system, Agil constellation of the Nohshayess region..."
Rat alrdy fled the ship back to empire...
He got a Mothership into highsec ?  
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:38:00 -
[177]
Yeah I kinda exaggerated UMCON's involvement to Morris, but then I didn't expect him to go public at the time..
For the record; Yes I am the CEO of Guiding Hand Social Club, at least when Istvaan isn't handling the role. Zeraph Dread/Amthrianus/Orange Species actually made Tyrrax being Hamish and Zeraph public on eve forums like 3 years ago, the dirty backstabber (i trust people too easily alas)
Yes I and my compatriots (Raem and Selene) stole two Wyverns from members of UMCON, nobody else in UMCON was involved. (haha as if anyone will believe me, sorry guys)
They let us take them by keeping them in CSMA in a corp where over 50 people had roles to remove, I don't feel bad about Jim's since him owning it was a liability for both corp and alliance, and frankly I'm not the only one who was thinking about taking it.
Shone's was simple opportunism, he's a rich, inactive player who buys stuff and doesn't use them (a shame in my opinion).
I sold Jim's Wyvern to Morris because I foolishly trusted him (yes I'm dumb) and we only had one Wyvern pilot available and didn't have much time to grab Shone's It was always a risk, but losing 13-14 bil is OK when you get an officer pimped wyvern out of it.
Valeryana did catch us red-handed but she left UMCON on bad terms and she was too stupid to note the name of the wyvern pilot in local, so her story was easily discredited, sorry babe 
I'm leaving IAC without causing any further problems for them if I can help it, I really did do my best to make the alliance strong and I think I did a good job. Don't bother trying to bribe me to take cyno jammers down on my way out (someone's already tried)
I think -A- cost themselves a lot of good fights by making this public, but that's just their style, they're cowards and realized IAC would obliterate them if they didn't weaken us by causing severe internal problems ;D
PS; I deny everything !
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Malibu Stacey
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:38:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Aypse
Originally by: Maximillian Franek
As CEO of UMCON...
I suspect that you will find many of your pilots unable to believe what you have to say.
I suspect that you will find many of us will believe what Max & Rev (and certain other directors if they post e.g. Aeolos Maior, Agmamenon Exinferis) have said on this forum. --- Forum Warfare / Rank 1 / SP: 1 of 250 Currently training to: level 1
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:38:00 -
[179]
you thiny my opinion dosent carry weight eh m8?
mabey you should get you facts straight noob
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AltBier
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:39:00 -
[180]
Stolen property should be returned to the owner, but perhaps a 10% reward would be acceptable?
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:39:00 -
[181]
Only in Eve Online can one bust a established reputation as a thief and corporate sabotage operative even lower down the rungs of infamy through unwise boasting and egotistic flights confidence-breaking madness.
Its quite impressive in the way Greek Tragedy is impressive.
I'd expect IAC, their allies, supporters and friends to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror about now.
Interesting to see who will take in TT now and whether his resurgent GHSC will get many contracts in the future.
CSM Election Manifesto 2008 |

Jacobi Borne
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:41:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Calmdown Ahahahaha epic win.
Don't you have a circle jerk to attend on your own forum?
He may be a scamming bastard but I still want to play with his tail :P
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Raem Civrie
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:44:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Malibu Stacey
Originally by: Aypse
Originally by: Maximillian Franek
As CEO of UMCON...
I suspect that you will find many of your pilots unable to believe what you have to say.
I suspect that you will find many of us will believe what Max & Rev (and certain other directors if they post e.g. Aeolos Maior, Agmamenon Exinferis) have said on this forum.
Outside of me, Seleene Bork and Tyrrax Thorrk, the UC directorate had no knowledge of this.
I don't really care about Shone, Jimlol or for that matter the rest of IAC, but the rest of UC is largely made up of good people.
Also, Jade: lol.
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bfmReciprocity
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:46:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
I think -A- cost themselves a lot of good fights by making this public, but that's just their style, they're cowards and realized IAC would obliterate them if they didn't weaken us by causing severe internal problems ;D
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Ethen Bejorn
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:47:00 -
[185]
Originally by: tropic24 you thiny my opinion dosent carry weight eh m8?
Personally I think your an idiot, but the is besides the point. Fact is, you were 100% wrong before in thinking Tyraxx was not the one who stole it when countless people told you he had, and I see no reason to think you are correct now.
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Chribba
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:48:00 -
[186]
This is a splendid example of why you would use a 3rd party for your Mothership trades 
May I suggest the service linked in my signature? *shameless advertise - sorry*
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar? |
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:48:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I think -A- cost themselves a lot of good fights by making this public, but that's just their style, they're cowards and realized IAC would obliterate them if they didn't weaken us by causing severe internal problems ;D
Just felt like quoting this for future reference 
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Pontet Canet
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:49:00 -
[188]
Well, this has certainly made for interesting reading.
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DeadProphet
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:51:00 -
[189]
Epic.
Most internally devastating drama bomb ever?
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WowZilla
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:53:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Maximillian Franek Edited by: Maximillian Franek on 02/04/2008 13:16:42 I have stripped Raem and Selene's roles, and the future of UMCON is being discussed as I type this. Even though we had our suspicions about TT and Selene, I realise that allowing this to take place under my nose reflects poorly on me as a CEO, and I would like to personally apologise to both Jim and shone for failing them.
oh noes, my president and Vice president backbone!!
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:55:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Taz Devlin
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I think -A- cost themselves a lot of good fights by making this public, but that's just their style, they're cowards and realized IAC would obliterate them if they didn't weaken us by causing severe internal problems ;D
Just felt like quoting this for future reference 
Hey ! We'll still fight you nooo problem (i know you were starting to worry with TT making such a bold statement ;) )
:D But mad props to AAA for making this public for the rest of the communtity to laugh their bums off ! :D
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Orange Species
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:57:00 -
[192]
Tyrrax is always bitter. -------------
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:59:00 -
[193]
i can dish it out but i can't take it :(
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NOL Waiter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:02:00 -
[194]
Well isn't this the best thread in years?
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:02:00 -
[195]
Originally by: NOL Waiter Well isn't this the best thread in years?
Pretty much.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:04:00 -
[196]
Edited by: Lowa on 02/04/2008 14:04:45
Originally by: Bastables Edited by: Bastables on 02/04/2008 12:49:25
Originally by: Mangold
Originally by: Morris Falter Rumours of intel being traded from Tyrrax directly to hostiles are also circulating - but I cannot give any more information on that.
There were reports of the same thing when he had one alt in the amarr camp (tyrraxx) and another one (Hamish) in the minmatar freedom fighters group. Nothing confirmed though and in all fairness, that IS ancient history. Must have been in 2003 or early 2004.
More than rumours. AM alliance obtained his ip passed it on to UK. UK ran a check on their forums and matched Hamish's posts, they then booted Hamish. Hell gremlin/istvaan had to end his rp story with Hamish dieing as the charecter was no longer valid a oprative or HG storyline. Done in tandam with robbing tyrrax's old GHSC external corp Throne worlds church of sin and absolution circa 2003. Both in revenge for the GHSC/digitalcommunist corp robbery of UQS.
Bloody well done AAA
Oh god, this thread just keeps on giving, to semi-quote TT: "I'm going to overdose on this!" And its strange, it almost has the feel of a small rush speed reading it all.
Overall, this must be the master piece of GH-SC? I'm not talking Isk I'm talking work and dual face tactics that stretches a loooong time. Props for that but now DIAF. 
Edit: Thread upgraded to 12/10.
Cheers, Lowa
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kaahooters
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:05:00 -
[197]
Edited by: kaahooters on 02/04/2008 14:05:47
in fairness grats to tt for playin the whole of iac, and shame on iac for letting him.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:06:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Ethen Bejorn
Originally by: tropic24 you thiny my opinion dosent carry weight eh m8?
Personally I think your an idiot, but the is besides the point. Fact is, you were 100% wrong before in thinking Tyraxx was not the one who stole it when countless people told you he had, and I see no reason to think you are correct now.
I thought he didnt take it?
m8 lol i first said he did i , retract comment because of reams convo but i guess you dont know so why dont you keep you nosey face out of it ,,
dont comment about stuff you dont know ok?

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Spacebar
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I don't feel bad about Jim's since him owning it was a liability for both corp and alliance
That is so funny coming from you. Im sure the Wyvern would be alot safer if you were the pilot 
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal Hey ! We'll still fight you nooo problem (i know you were starting to worry with TT making such a bold statement ;) )
:D But mad props to AAA for making this public for the rest of the communtity to laugh their bums off ! :D
I knew we could count on you, thank you! 
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Vile rat
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:11:00 -
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On behalf of Goonswarm we extend our heartfelt condolences to Jim for the underhanded loss of his Wyvern. We understand this is a difficult time and it makes us sick that somebody could do such a thing. We are currently reevaluating our relationship with IAC and will be making a decision on how to proceed in the coming days. We simply can not tolerate such actions and do not wish to associate with somebody who would do something like this.
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Mr Poaster
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: tropic24 you thiny my opinion dosent carry weight eh m8?
mabey you should get you facts straight noob
Sorry dude, you seem nice and all that, but when you got your mothership stolen from you because people think you are too clueless to be let to fly it, you don't want to parade around what people think of your opinion.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:15:00 -
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hmm i dont care?
you say this but it makes no difference he stole it , it was wrong
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Lorna Loot
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lorna Loot on 02/04/2008 14:19:06
Originally by: Vile rat On behalf of Goonswarm we extend our heartfelt condolences to Jim for the underhanded loss of his Wyvern. We understand this is a difficult time and it makes us sick that somebody could do such a thing. We are currently reevaluating our relationship with IAC and will be making a decision on how to proceed in the coming days. We simply can not tolerate such actions and do not wish to associate with somebody who would do something like this.
TT joins Goonswarm in a week amirite?
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:18:00 -
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no you are not
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vile rat On behalf of Goonswarm we extend our heartfelt condolences to Jim for the underhanded loss of his Wyvern. We understand this is a difficult time and it makes us sick that somebody could do such a thing. We are currently reevaluating our relationship with IAC and will be making a decision on how to proceed in the coming days. We simply can not tolerate such actions and do not wish to associate with somebody who would do something like this.
With all due respect, it seems as though it should be your relationship with TT that you re-evaluate, not the one with the whole of the IAC.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:18:00 -
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epic
who is stupider in this, jim, tyraax or both?

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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:21:00 -
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Two wyverns were stolen. I have no idea where the other one is. It belonged to Shone, also from IAC.
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:21:00 -
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'Epic' doesn't begin to describe it... 
Oh well IAC you were better off with Tigress, it's not like, you didn't know Tyrrax was a slippery one...  --------------
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TWD
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vile rat On behalf of Goonswarm we extend our heartfelt condolences to Jim for the underhanded loss of his Wyvern. We understand this is a difficult time and it makes us sick that somebody could do such a thing. We are currently reevaluating our relationship with IAC and will be making a decision on how to proceed in the coming days. We simply can not tolerate such actions and do not wish to associate with somebody who would do something like this.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:23:00 -
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Morris convo me
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Ix Forres
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba This is a splendid example of why you would use a 3rd party for your Mothership trades 
May I suggest the service linked in my signature? *shameless advertise - sorry*
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ColdFuzion
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:24:00 -
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Tyraxx, ADHD C/D?
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Crystalline Entity
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:24:00 -
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Excellent thread
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Mr Poaster
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: tropic24 hmm i dont care?
you say this but it makes no difference he stole it , it was wrong
Yep, that's something I agree with, 100%.
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bitters much
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:25:00 -
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At least this ship has now a chance to survive for some time 
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Boonies
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:26:00 -
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Well i know TT and Jim a long while back when I was in IAC..Jim is a nice guy...i still talk to him and asks him for favors sometimes..WTH TT..how can you possibly steal something from Jim...especially when you had known him for so many years?! and worst..selling it to AAA which has so many friends in IAC..that is real low of you. I advise you to consider your actions and go hide somewhere in the far reaches..prolly the Jovian Space
I really think Morris did the right thing by not paying you..hey i would do the same..because of 1 simple reason..u deserve it..and eye for an eye..and if you can steal from Jim..you can prolly steal from anybody including those that know you for years..(Jim is an example)
Its sad to know that something like this can possibly happen to IAC...well Jim..you better start 24/7 exploring for another mum then..preferably in a new alliance..
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Kevrlet
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:26:00 -
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Obviously I don't speak for corp or alliance, but who didn't see this coming with TT taking control again so suddenly? 
I mean, I'm fairly new to the game and had no idea of TT's past exploits and even I knew TT wasn't the kind of guy to trust. Why in the world he was given command of an entire alliance is beyond me. Someone enlighten me on this point? We need this. Badly. |

Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:30:00 -
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I'm not going to have to eat or drink today, because I'm now running on lawls.
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Zizoo
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:34:00 -
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Sorry to hear about your Theif IAC.
We know now how TT has been affording his losses as of recent....
Poor BOS. they just joined IAC as it goes into Turmoil...
pew pew see ya around.
Ziz
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ry ry
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:35:00 -
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This thread, whilst epic in every sense of the word, has left me feeling a bit jaded.
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The Mittani
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:37:00 -
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hrm with tyrrax gone iac is no longer shielded by the 'rule of tyrrax'
this is a pretty big change :o
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:39:00 -
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im still here 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zizoo Sorry to hear about your Theif IAC.
We know now how TT has been affording his losses as of recent....
Poor BOS. they just joined IAC as it goes into Turmoil...
pew pew see ya around.
Ziz
Actually I haven't sold anything I stole yet, and only got 1.5 bil from Morris which all went to Selene.
I'm independently wealthy and it's not from embezzling or stealing from IAC 
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JS LiamElms
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kevrlet Obviously I don't speak for corp or alliance, but who didn't see this coming with TT taking control again so suddenly? 
I mean, I'm fairly new to the game and had no idea of TT's past exploits and even I knew TT wasn't the kind of guy to trust. Why in the world he was given command of an entire alliance is beyond me. Someone enlighten me on this point?
most people that also felt this voted with their feet.... you gotta wonder how much recenlty was engineered for whos gain.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:42:00 -
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oh he speaks ,
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Crystalline Entity
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:42:00 -
[227]
can i have some isks?
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nickky01
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:47:00 -
[228]
heeey morris can i go ahead and get that curse back i let you borrow....
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani hrm with tyrrax gone iac is no longer shielded by the 'rule of tyrrax'
this is a pretty big change :o
That's like, the sword of damacles innit?
Anyway, drama week hasn't failed to deliver :D Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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sakana
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:52:00 -
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Well, on one hand, corp theft is a shame.
On the other hand, it was the massive GHSC theft/combined assassination carried out a few years back, and written about in PC Gamer (or PC Zone,can't recall), that made me start playing EVE.
Also, with this drama, there could be big changes coming? IAC no longer under the rule of TT, as well as the -A- standings reset? And maybe even MC will make another attempt for 49-??? Oh man, this could be good.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:53:00 -
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Hehe, great thread.
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Ethen Bejorn
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:54:00 -
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I have to say that I blame CCP for not implementing ways for players to secure their belongings at a POS. If there was individual hangers at POSes like stations this would of been a lot more difficult of pull off.
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:56:00 -
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Lol can't say i'm surprised : you fly with tyraxx you risk getting screwed
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ry ry
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: sakana Well, on one hand, corp theft is a shame.
On the other hand, it was the massive GHSC theft/combined assassination carried out a few years back, and written about in PC Gamer (or PC Zone,can't recall), that made me start playing EVE.
Also, with this drama, there could be big changes coming? IAC no longer under the rule of TT, as well as the -A- standings reset? And maybe even MC will make another attempt for 49-??? Oh man, this could be good.
but in mira's case, there was enough doubt cast against her character to make her destruction hold a certain karmic appeal. the collapse of her corp was the coup de grGce, following a positively Machiavellian tale.
nobody has a bad word to say about jim, beyond simply being a bit careless. and the theft of 2 motherships in capships-online is more of a bag snatch.
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Anton Marx
Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:57:00 -
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Certainly a huge dramabomb for the entire cluster. As many have said before, the grade for drama excellence and all around giggles is at least 10/10.
On the other hand, I don't think it has been well (or at all) tackled before in this thread, but I want to express my deepest regrets to the grunts of UMCON. They are indeed a very nice bunch of people, without any doubt one of the most active and vigilant defenders of IAC's "alcoholic frontiers". Having Umbra Congregation in my employment history makes me proud for that exact reason, and that reason only. Shame you had to cut my access to #UC# because of the recent -A- standings reset, I'd love to talk to you again <3.
That aside, I believe it is time now to bury Umbra and perhaps start anew. UMCON has been infested and I am sure nothing will ever be the same for a lot of pilots there.
As for IAC, it has probably been shaken fundamentally and many people are asking themselves whether they should continue to strive for its survival and well-being. In my eyes, IAC has now changed from "The alliance of drunken but capable warriors" to "One of the biggest public dissapointments EVE has witnessed". I don't mean to be rude or smacking, but I am trolling you to widen your horizons and ask yourself what to do next.
Choose wisely, UMCON and IAC!
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ethen Bejorn I have to say that I blame CCP for not implementing ways for players to secure their belongings at a POS. If there was individual hangers at POSes like stations this would of been a lot more difficult of pull off.
great isn't it ?
Why not setup an alt corp pos for your personal use then ?
it's a pure and simple trust thing, nothing to do with game mechanics.
btw, lol @ everyone involved. Great work on entertaining us !
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Gama24
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:59:00 -
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EVE Online is still the best social engineering school in the planet.
I'm still waiting for the next drama to spill into RL and people getting real hurt.
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Miklas Laces
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:00:00 -
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Great drama, amazing read, thanks Tyrrax and AAA. More of this please.
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Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: sakana Well, on one hand, corp theft is a shame.
On the other hand, it was the massive GHSC theft/combined assassination carried out a few years back, and written about in PC Gamer (or PC Zone,can't recall), that made me start playing EVE.
Also, with this drama, there could be big changes coming? IAC no longer under the rule of TT, as well as the -A- standings reset? And maybe even MC will make another attempt for 49-??? Oh man, this could be good.
It was PC Gamer and was the main reason i downloaded the trial and stopped talking to my friends for 6 months.
Im blaming TT for that to.
I only hope you don't go away for any reason TT ,you provide the community with more drama than any other single player i can think of .
Kepp up the good work.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
but in mirial's case, there was enough doubt cast against her character to make her destruction hold a certain karmic appeal. the collapse of her corp was the coup de grGce, following a positively Machiavellian tale.
Mirial's corporation did not collapse as a result of the heist.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Zastrow
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Zizoo Sorry to hear about your Theif IAC.
We know now how TT has been affording his losses as of recent....
Poor BOS. they just joined IAC as it goes into Turmoil...
pew pew see ya around.
Ziz
Actually I haven't sold anything I stole yet, and only got 1.5 bil from Morris which all went to Selene.
I'm independently wealthy and it's not from embezzling or stealing from IAC 
just embezzling and stealing from everyone else rite :V
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Hehe, great thread.
you my friend are living on borrowed time
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Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:04:00 -
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hmm could have sworn umbra came in later but then details.. like who cares about that?
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DHB FooFighter
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:07:00 -
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<3 mo.
Sorry Jim, I tried to make him give it back but alas, i fail at negotiating. Although truth be told, when has -A- ever tried to cultivate the nice cuddly image?
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: tropic24 you my friend are living on borrowed time
Stolen time, actually. I borrowed it, and never gave it back.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:11:00 -
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its ok FOO if he feels he should he will if not oh well :)
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:12:00 -
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yes we all know your tendancies Istavaan ...
pity but oh you wont ever be trusted by ANYONE not that you were :/
live with it ,
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ry ry
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 02/04/2008 15:13:25
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: ry ry
but in mirial's case, there was enough doubt cast against her character to make her destruction hold a certain karmic appeal. the collapse of her corp was the coup de grGce, following a positively Machiavellian tale.
Mirial's corporation did not collapse as a result of the heist.
perhaps collapse was a little strong, but i assumed Ubiquita Seraph never really recovered, what with their current lack of.. uuh.. Ubiquitousness?
apologies to Ubiquita if they're still kicking around. clearly your demise has been greatly exaggerated.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:18:00 -
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hmmm i convo TT in game but all i get is this :S
15:15:49 Info Tyrrax Thorrk has rejected the invitation.
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Setana Manoro
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 02/04/2008 15:22:01
Originally by: Jade Constantine Only in Eve Online can one bust a established reputation as a thief and corporate sabotage operative even lower down the rungs of infamy through unwise boasting and egotistic flights confidence-breaking madness.
Its quite impressive in the way Greek Tragedy is impressive.
I'd expect IAC, their allies, supporters and friends to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror about now.
Interesting to see who will take in TT now and whether his resurgent GHSC will get many contracts in the future.
First good post in this thread and it's on page 6. :)
TT won't change, if he won't do it with TT and the chars that were identified he will start again, it's what they do. I don't think they will get many contracts from now on - though stupid ppl still exist, but he will probably continue because he likes maneuvering ppl as he pleases. I especially liked how testy TT became when he realised he got scammed, and how nervous his first reply ... 'feels'. :)
PS: Very good forum drama, well done putting it up on 2nd and not 1st of April.
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Emmanuelle L'Antivierge
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: tropic24 hmmm i convo TT in game but all i get is this :S
15:15:49 Info Tyrrax Thorrk has rejected the invitation.
TT has auto-reject on of course. He claims that his client/computer/karma prevent text in chat channels showing up as well.
Emm.
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Setana Manoro
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Emmanuelle L'Antivierge
Originally by: tropic24 hmmm i convo TT in game but all i get is this :S
15:15:49 Info Tyrrax Thorrk has rejected the invitation.
TT has auto-reject on of course. He claims that his client/computer/karma prevent text in chat channels showing up as well.
That is actually a bug, I don't know if it is related to some specific account settings, but on 2 chars very rarely, channels and convo's won't open properly. They have no title, they do blink when someone says something, but no text appears and no character is visible in the right side - not even the character i am on.
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:25:00 -
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Delicious. 
All's fair in love, war, and internet spaceships.
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Jack Brazen
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:25:00 -
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Best forum-drama I've seen in absolutely aaaages. Brilliant work, and thanks a lot for sharing it with us. I think should serve as a reminder to everyone of what CAOD is capable of. Not real information on alliances or endless smack - but good, old-fashioned drama. The kind the whole family can gather around with a bowl of popcorn and some soda, and just have some quality time reading together.
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Smalum
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter Tyrrax is by far the worst alliance leader ever, Isayo for Prez!
gotta admit, there's something special with swedes 
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Jack Brazen
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil Delicious. 
All's fair in love, war, and internet spaceships.
That saying is wrong - its supposed to be all is HAIR in love and war. It dates to the days of Sampson where, for some odd reason, all WAS hair in love and war. ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Aaaaarrrrggghhhhh
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Aaaaarrrrggghhhhh on 02/04/2008 15:38:08 lol TT made IAC strong.
Basically the IAC has been a money churner for the few for a long time. TT disappeared when the going got tough with BoB (lol holiday) and Isayo stepped in with people like Vile and saved the day with help from the coalition.
They built up a strong alliance but the old guard who could no longer make money of the backs of others didn't like it. So they thought they would step back in. They undermined Isayo with external connections including AAA and TT stepped back in. People wanted elections but TT refused the option. Seems some of the old guard who worked behind Isayo and Vile got more than they bargained for with TT. You backed him out of greed you may get the payback you deserve.
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Darklin Eldaris
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:37:00 -
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Wait.
So, Thork rips off an alliance mate, and sells the MS to someone who is prolly going to use it against him at some point for the low low price of 1.5bil isk, effectively pwning himself directly in the face.
That's about as classic and hilarious as it can get.
And he deserves it.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
BAAAAAAHahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaa
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NTRabbit
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:39:00 -
[259]
I wonder where the second Wyvern is now? ------
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:41:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Wait.
So, Thork rips off an alliance mate, and sells the MS to someone who is prolly going to use it against him at some point for the low low price of 1.5bil isk, effectively pwning himself directly in the face.
That's about as classic and hilarious as it can get.
And he deserves it.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
BAAAAAAHahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaa
Actually, no. Thorrk rips off one mothership, and has the chance to steal another, but there's only one available pilot for Caldari motherships - me. I'm in the first mothership already, and if we want to steal the second, we have to move quickly. So, we do.
It should be noted I didn't want to give the mom to Morris, but did so in the name of greater profits. So, we got 1.5b for the first mothership, I'd guess about 6-8 billion for the officer mods on it - and another mothership which we still have, along with about 10b+ of officer gear.
So uhh... instead of being 40 billion richer, we're 30 billion richer... and Tyrrax is the one that got owned? Heh.
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:46:00 -
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ahahah 1.5bill lol gutted i guess there is a god
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:47:00 -
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lol noob i could sell alone the Tobias smarty for 4.5bill hahaha , each pith x type for 500mill at least the amp for bills,,
lol you really know nothing about what those mods are really wroth lol
oh well :)
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watermeron
Goony Hand Social Club GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:48:00 -
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istvaan my corp is still way better than your corp
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:49:00 -
[264]
Originally by: tropic24 lol noob i could sell alone the Tobias smarty for 4.5bill hahaha , each pith x type for 500mill at least the amp for bills,,
lol you really know nothing about what those mods are really wroth lol
oh well :)
Good to know, thanks. I guess we're even richer, then ;)
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VileLust
The humble Crew Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aaaaarrrrggghhhhh Edited by: Aaaaarrrrggghhhhh on 02/04/2008 15:38:08 lol TT made IAC strong.
Basically the IAC has been a money churner for the few for a long time. TT disappeared when the going got tough with BoB (lol holiday) and Isayo stepped in with people like Vile and saved the day with help from the coalition.
They built up a strong alliance but the old guard who could no longer make money of the backs of others didn't like it. So they thought they would step back in. They undermined Isayo with external connections including AAA and TT stepped back in. People wanted elections but TT refused the option. Seems some of the old guard who worked behind Isayo and Vile got more than they bargained for with TT. You backed him out of greed you may get the payback you deserve.
this tbh.. Everyone who backed him simply gets what they deserve =] a joke alliance, joke leader, joke attitude, joke everything now. IAC is bloated with KoS and BoS, losing PVP corps, losing leaders, all this ****..
because vile yelled at you and you didnt like it.
now hes laughing at you, I hope you dont like that, either
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NOL Waiter
Dining in NOL Enterprises.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:51:00 -
[266]
Man, lol. We should have more of these.
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Ituralde
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:52:00 -
[267]
Edited by: Ituralde on 02/04/2008 15:54:44 Say what you like, Istvaan. Don't get me wrong, I really like the hit, I just think it's a bit pointless to hide the fact that selling a mothership for less than the price of a dread is a serious bit of failure.
I guess something is to be said for this being the first 'real' (Read: multibillion) Tyrrax ship loss that he actually did make a little bit of money on so perhaps you are right in saying that he got 'owned' is a bit blowing it out of proportion 
EDIT: Triage module with no remote reps and no smartbombs as well is a pr0 fit. I also hear that Capacitor Power Relays are great for active shield tanks. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
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watermeron
Goony Hand Social Club GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:53:00 -
[268]
Serious Poast: Why do you guys run around stealing motherships and ISK when you have to burn an agent who's the CEO of the executor of a large 0.0-holding alliance? If you guys were in the GIA, I would fire you, because you're a bunch of goddamn amateurs. 
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Howling Jinn
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:56:00 -
[269]
i gotta say the pics speak for themselves. look, deep down in catch suddenly istvaan comes into local and a ms goes missing. and people didnt know where it went? how stupid are you people? the most famous corp thief in the history of eve shows up in your space and you didnt know where the ms went?
as to the rest, theifs stealing from theifs v0v
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watermeron
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:57:00 -
[270]
Originally by: watermeron Serious Poast: Why do you guys run around stealing motherships and ISK when you have to burn an agent who's the CEO of the executor of a large 0.0-holding alliance? If you guys were in the GIA, I would fire you, because you're a bunch of goddamn amateurs. 
I take this back, if you come work for us we'll put you to good use.
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ajduB
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:58:00 -
[271]
Leave Jim alone, greatest Corp Leader Ever! Stay strong Jim!
IAC is officially the biggest laughing stock in eve. I feel sorry for the innocent newer members but this has been coming for a long time.
Originally by: Jim Lovell
Adjub im Shocked! 
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:04:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Ituralde Say what you like, Istvaan. Don't get me wrong, I really like the hit, I just think it's a bit pointless to hide the fact that selling a mothership for less than the price of a dread is a serious bit of failure.
Not really. The first mothership was stolen three days before the second. Jim didn't notice it was missing at all, but we felt that when he did, IAC's security would go into lockdown, preventing us from hijacking the second. In the end it boiled down to a judgment call - Tyrrax decided to risk being ripped off (something I knew would happen, see logs) to gain bigger profit overall, and I agreed with him. Turns out we were right: the very next day IAC realized Jim's Wyvern was gone - we managed to steal the second with very little time to spare.
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Anahid Brutus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:04:00 -
[273]
dcus on a mothership? that just gives it away right there, delayed april fools vOv
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Karim alRashid
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:06:00 -
[274]
Originally by: VileLust
Originally by: Aaaaarrrrggghhhhh Edited by: Aaaaarrrrggghhhhh on 02/04/2008 15:38:08 lol TT made IAC strong.
Basically the IAC has been a money churner for the few for a long time. TT disappeared when the going got tough with BoB (lol holiday) and Isayo stepped in with people like Vile and saved the day with help from the coalition.
this tbh.. Everyone who backed him simply gets what they deserve =] a joke alliance, joke leader, joke attitude, joke everything now. IAC is bloated with KoS and BoS, losing PVP corps, losing leaders, all this ****..
because vile yelled at you and you didnt like it.
now hes laughing at you, I hope you dont like that, either
You both get you facts straight!
Vile, you left first, when we were still holding FAT/25S.
You came back just after we (with the huge help from AAA) saved F4. At that moment TT went on vacation.
Other things I sort of agree.
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Lasakywa
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:09:00 -
[275]
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/724872/page/5#135

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Oofig VanDoogan
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:13:00 -
[276]
TOTG I still love you! ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
Sig nerfed due to is highly offensive content :( :( |

PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:21:00 -
[277]
10 pages in and still got plenty of steam left.
BTW I heard goons suicide ganked a few hulks in empire today, maybe we should talk about that...
cream? anyone, cream? All right, no cream...
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |

tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:22:00 -
[278]
well guys this is meeeee!
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa274/jimplovell/JimTimPicture.jpg
my bro on left getting degree
I hope this dont go over laws for forums :/
love you guys
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Maximoff
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:25:00 -
[279]
tyrrax lol infinite
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Uncle Rukus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:28:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Maximoff tyrrax lol infinite
lol, ouch
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Mr Poaster
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:29:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Maximoff tyrrax lol infinite
Nice catch.
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DT3
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:30:00 -
[282]
Edited by: DT3 on 02/04/2008 16:31:04 1 minute I was drinking coffee at work and the next minute my trousers were drinking hot coffee at work
Ouch.. I kind of feel sorry for him but meh I am a softie.
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JS LiamElms
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:34:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Maximoff tyrrax lol infinite
You guys have always had my respect.... and now you can double that o7 well done guys, great kill!
JS |

Metal Dude
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:35:00 -
[284]
As always, EVE drama FTW.
Anyone that falls asleep in a MoM by a station does not deserve to have that ship, frig or MoM. Members of BoB better know that I will shoot them down myself.
Leaving a MoM in a POS with everyone having access to it is another mistake that deserves punishment. People need to learn their lessons the hard way.
Any member of IAC that did not see TT using alliance founds as his personal wallet disserves to be scammed. Everyone else did.
Anyone that hands over a MoM to someone before having received all the money deserves to be scammed and exposed for a thief to the community. Karma is a *****. So everyone got whet they deserved and now TT and his pals will have to play EVE as known thieves. Good luck in GoonSwarm.
The truth will set you free
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Andargor theWise
The Fated Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:00:00 -
[285]
Funny how this kind of stuff got me in Eve in the first place (thanks Istvaan and TT), and still makes me pay $15 a month.
And it's not the game mechanics keeping me in-game, how sad. People and drama for the win.
- Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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mishkof
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:02:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: mishkof I still say you lost money on this deal. The TT character is worth nothing, and you forfeited all future profits of the operations of IAC.
Worth nothing ? ROFL I could've made an endless amount of ISK robbing IAC, I never touched any of their funds, if I'd wanted alliance executor position I would've had it.
I stole from a couple of guys in UMCON, there is a big difference between that and embezzling alliance funds I was by far the best leader IAC ever had and I'm most responsible for its strong position yesterday.
No clue how this drama of me being booted will affect alliance as a whole, but I think they'll be fine and kick -A-'s ass if it ever comes to a serious conflict.
You will be lucky if an ebay noob would give you bottom dollar for your character as a cap alt is what I am saying. I am sure you had legitimate money making oppurtunities in IAC, those are gone as well as any use that characters connections could have gave you to any legitmate money making...
and oh yeah, you "were" the best leader. Now you are the reason why it is a joke.
You are eve's Mike Tyson.
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Dungar Loghoth
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:02:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Actually, no. Thorrk rips off one mothership, and has the chance to steal another, but there's only one available pilot for Caldari motherships - me. I'm in the first mothership already, and if we want to steal the second, we have to move quickly. So, we do.
It should be noted I didn't want to give the mom to Morris, but did so in the name of greater profits. So, we got 1.5b for the first mothership, I'd guess about 6-8 billion for the officer mods on it - and another mothership which we still have, along with about 10b+ of officer gear.
So uhh... instead of being 40 billion richer, we're 30 billion richer... and Tyrrax is the one that got owned? Heh.
Sorry, how did TT rip off a mothership with your character? ---
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Lucius Ventrue
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:04:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Andargor theWise Funny how this kind of stuff got me in Eve in the first place (thanks Istvaan and TT), and still makes me pay $15 a month.
And it's not the game mechanics keeping me in-game, how sad. People and drama for the win.
pay money for eve!? - buy gtc with iskies!
hear goonies are good at keeping the supply steady!
See you pay iskies for GTC = you play more Goonies get iskies from GTC = them getting more ships for us to kill
= Good fun for everyone and your not out monies
Total Kills: 72 Total Losses: 5
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:05:00 -
[289]
Simply awesome, my respect for AAA has gone up alot for this. 
/epic 
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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KIAEddZ
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:05:00 -
[290]
Edited by: KIAEddZ on 02/04/2008 17:06:07
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I could've made an endless amount of ISK robbing IAC, I never touched any of their funds
And people should take your word for that why?
 KIA EVE Home
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Seth Bromier
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:06:00 -
[291]
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:06:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Actually, no. Thorrk rips off one mothership, and has the chance to steal another, but there's only one available pilot for Caldari motherships - me. I'm in the first mothership already, and if we want to steal the second, we have to move quickly. So, we do.
It should be noted I didn't want to give the mom to Morris, but did so in the name of greater profits. So, we got 1.5b for the first mothership, I'd guess about 6-8 billion for the officer mods on it - and another mothership which we still have, along with about 10b+ of officer gear.
So uhh... instead of being 40 billion richer, we're 30 billion richer... and Tyrrax is the one that got owned? Heh.
Sorry, how did TT rip off a mothership with your character?
I launched it from CSMA, changed pos pw and defueled it he board wyvern and jumps to Selene's pilgrim 
Simple.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:06:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Haradgrim Simply awesome, my respect for AAA has gone up alot for this. 
Yarr, it just gets ever more epic!
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Lucius Ventrue
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:06:00 -
[294]
Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I could've made an endless amount of ISK robbing IAC, I never touched any of their funds, if I'd wanted alliance executor position I would've had it.
And people should take your word for that why?
Couldnt the word be easily proven with a API dump from TT?
hrm
Total Kills: 72 Total Losses: 5
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Avernus
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:06:00 -
[295]
Sry Jim.
Morris, Nicely done.
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Lucius Ventrue
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:07:00 -
[296]
Edited by: Lucius Ventrue on 02/04/2008 17:07:00 doublepost ftmfl
Total Kills: 72 Total Losses: 5
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:09:00 -
[297]
Morris you are fuken amazing =D
Also if I remember right the famous goon fakeposter CobraBytez called Thyraxx and most IAC leadership being GH-SC alts long long ago (c/d?) in some fake scamming post he made.
- Gob
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:10:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I could've made an endless amount of ISK robbing IAC, I never touched any of their funds
Why not?
/makes fart noise
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:10:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Sorry, how did TT rip off a mothership with your character?
Because OMG WE'RE THE SAME PERSON!
Not really. Everyone had their job. Mine was extraction of assets from theater of operation. Selene worked the escape cyno, and Tyrrax helped strip it of officer modules once the mom was brought to a temporary holding location. Other GH-SC operatives were also involved. Overall, a very fun team effort if I say so myself.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:10:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Lucius Ventrue And people should take your word for that why?
Couldnt the word be easily proven with a API dump from TT?
hrm
IAC's leadership can easily confirm that GH-SC has managed their funds quite responsibly 
Like I said, if I had wanted to be CEO of IAC Frontiers I would've been, but I wasn't interested in ripping them off for the 20+ bil ISK available there every month.
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elchief
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:16:00 -
[301]
i have to say i dont find this at all shocking.. considering tyrrax joined iac all that time ago by betraying his alliance in the first place giving iac the space they currently inhabit. ive never trusted or liked tyrrax but he already knows that as do all of iac leadership :) this was one reason behind me leaving iac. Jim bud its sad to see this happening to you i kinda wished to be on the killmail for that thing :) but at the same time its a sh*tty way of it going. down. i know the majority of the umcom guys and they are mostly a great bunch dont judge them all by a few bad eggs theyre good guys. Shame to see iac going this way :( i used to love that alliance it was home for a very long time :|
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Max Teranous
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:16:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Lucius Ventrue Couldnt the word be easily proven with a API dump from TT?
No, it would need a full api dump from the account from every char TT has had in IAC for the past couple of years. Good luck knowing that list 
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HostageTaker
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:17:00 -
[303]
This thread is made from:
50% win 50% lol 50% legend
That is 150% MOTHER ******!!!

Oh and lolski at the Navy Apoc kill, you shoulda carrier jumped all those nice things out T-dork, oh wait, we smoked that last night... 

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haubnFilter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:18:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Maximoff tyrrax lol infinite
killson's I love you :)
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Tigerfish Torpedo
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:23:00 -
[305]
We're all forgetting one thing here,... He has a bright pink hat!
Tiger.
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Wittgensteiner
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:24:00 -
[306]
Originally by: HostageTaker This thread is made from:
50% win 50% lol 50% legend
That is 150% MOTHER ******!!!

Oh and lolski at the Navy Apoc kill, you shoulda carrier jumped all those nice things out T-dork, oh wait, we smoked that last night... 

Though shall not use 4****memes here!!!
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:27:00 -
[307]
Good drama, I was beginning to wonder whether or not AAA would have the nads to post this. AAA and GS to a lesser extent rely way too much on external allies, and IAC has always been the largest of several massive weak points in the Coalition.
To add detail:
Evolution theft in 2007 had nothing to do with GH, inactive vet came back from WoW as a huge crybaby. Tried to spin it off as some huge plot, but ended up giving most of it back. Everyone fell for it.
Kurenin giving TT an Aeon is a case of him trying to desperately buy his way into GHSC again, and TT abusing that again. Aeon was earned with Kurenin's own isk, that he grinded outside of Evolution when he was awol. Never used it for anything relevant out of fear.
I was responsible for the year-long Mirial/UQS effort for various personal reasons. TT participated and assisted in the last few months, HG did all the PR afterwards. I made the assumption that using GHSC's RP image would hurt the enemy more than the truth, even though the truth was always far more involved. I was right, as the story made it into many publications.
GHSC tried to do the Oberon Incorporated job; a good plan was made. It failed twice due to inactivity and varying degrees of incompetence. The BoB contract was going to be spun as a GHSC victory using 100% PR. So if anything really bad happened, they'd step in and take credit for it. :P
I'm sure someone will hate me for this, but GH is not a scary organization. Pretty much all of its relevant contracts were fake, and most of the wars were done for fun against targets of manageable size (read: pvp newbies). GHSC itself is an RP front for the actions of Tyrrax, and in the past.. either HellGremlin or myself.
I left GHSC on somewhat crappy terms in early 2006 due to one of their members being bat**** crazy. Although I did work with TT throughout the first Coalition wave. He sold out the Coalition leadership for a few billion isk.
The intel I would say, went a long way towards making the Battle of F-TE1T possible. Tyrrax is a very useful contact if you're on the other side, as he keeps more spies and contacts in his allies corps and alliances than enemy ones ;p
I also know whose got Shone's Wyvern right now, but I like him. I just hope he gets a fair cut of the sales for babysitting it, as anyone in GHSC not TT or Istvaan would be pretty damn poor.
In the end though, Arach is a good EVE player. I wouldn't expect this to keep him down, as IAC was a side ISK project that went too far. He's always been looking to escape from it and try something new.
PS: Jade don't be a bitter winner; leave Oberon alone ;(( _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:33:00 -
[308]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist I'm sure someone will hate me for this, but GH is not a scary organization. Pretty much all of its relevant contracts were fake, and most of the wars were done for fun against targets of manageable size (read: pvp newbies). GHSC itself is an RP front for the actions of Tyrrax, and in the past.. either HellGremlin or myself.
THIS ACCUSATION IS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE HOW DARE YOU oh hell, yeah, he's pretty much right :p
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:35:00 -
[309]
lols ;O intel i sold at the time had no effect on F-TE and was in general pretty worthless stuff, but obviously very entertaining and made me a lil bit of ISK without seriously hurting anything the Coalition did, their epic failures were almost all due to Thug's drunken stupidity and D2's colossal incompetence and failure to communicate.
you pretty much got ripped off on that deal, but then again not as if the amounts were relevant and you did get to jerk off to crappy intel 
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Metatron Enoch
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:43:00 -
[310]
This just in, Tyrrax gets ganked by IAC in an Apoc hauling an assload.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=740188
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Lucius Ventrue
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:44:00 -
[311]
Edited by: Lucius Ventrue on 02/04/2008 17:46:07
Originally by: Metatron Enoch This just in, Tyrrax gets ganked by IAC in an Apoc hauling an assload.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=740188
This is so 22 post ago
heh its like watching FOX news on a breaking story, watching it for 15min, then turning to CNN and they act like they are exclusive; this just in!
har har
Total Kills: 72 Total Losses: 5
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Barthezz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:46:00 -
[312]
I dont get it Tyrrax, instead of stealing from the alliance and as such ripping off a lot of people but only a small amount of isk/person. You rip off 1 member for +20b.
Sad tbh.
Didnt expect this from you, had some nice chats but this just proves how some people can put up one face and play another. ---
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maGz
The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:48:00 -
[313]
And you people didn't believe me...    ____________
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Erik Amirault
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:49:00 -
[314]
To be fair that mothership would probably be dead right now anyway if the pilot had kept it. The dude fell asleep in space in the ******* thing. Personally, I wish more people would steal from incompetent players as it annoys me to see nice things wasted.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE CARRIER PILOTS WITH ISTABS
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Omeega
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:49:00 -
[315]
gj mo/sith/digi
<3
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:50:00 -
[316]
You call that an assload ? 
I never had any good intel to sell since IAC wasn't involved in most of that stuff, general strategy and vague outlines of what was planned yeah sure, exact op details in advance ? Don't think so, plus I conveniently neglected to provide anything that'd be the least bit useful in hurting IAC.
RSF almost entirely communicated via MSN/their own comms and the northerners didn't communicate with anyone in any useful way, if you'd paid me more maybe I would've done joint ops with them and actually had useful intels for you..
But fact remains, the intel I sold had no real adverse affects on my "side" apart from beefing up your / molle's morale of course with chatpo rn to jerk off to.
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bitters much
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:52:00 -
[317]
I¦m TTs newest pilot btw 
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hawkeiz
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:55:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: mishkof I stole from a couple of guys in UMCON, there is a big difference between that and embezzling alliance funds
So wait, let me make sure I got this right. Ripping of your corpmates is somehow okay?
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BlackHorizon
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:58:00 -
[319]
Edited by: BlackHorizon on 02/04/2008 18:00:32 Why must these dramabombs be dropped when I'm asleep. I had a witty response all planned for this thread that would have cleared Tyrrax's honorable name. 
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Icarus100
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:59:00 -
[320]
:D
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:00:00 -
[321]
I'm saying it's different, I did one, not the other.
Don't really care which is morally worse, just saying it like it is.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:00:00 -
[322]
It would be very stylish if aaa gave it back to Jim.
Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:06:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Sokratesz It would be very stylish if aaa gave it back to Jim.
so he can lose it on a gate? ****. that.
this thread is awesome TT you are awesome Morris you are awesome IAC you are awesome. Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan |

Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:07:00 -
[324]
Why is it always complicated  ________________________ Comming back June 5th...
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source
Infinity Enterprises Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:07:00 -
[325]
lol, sucks.
p.s. jouni in tri? Valeryanna in outbreak? lol
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:08:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Omeega gj mo/sith/digi
<3
what took you so long to post here oh yeah thats right youre stuck reading GF and scrapheap at work haha Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan |

Sean Dillon
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:09:00 -
[327]
I luv falling mummies out the cupboard.
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Ironnight
x13
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:17:00 -
[328]
Wait, so you stole it because the guy would have lost it? Yet you get to fly ships bigger then an ibis? Your biggest claim to fame is the way you throw away your multi billion isk ships.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:18:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Ironnight Wait, so you stole it because the guy would have lost it while afk
FYP. Losing in combat > Losing while AFK.  -----
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 02/04/2008 18:22:51
Originally by: Ironnight Wait, so you stole it because the guy would have lost it? Yet you get to fly ships bigger then an ibis? Your biggest claim to fame is the way you throw away your multi billion isk ships.
No, man. We stole it because it was there.
*Istvaan pulls on cigar*
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Dazhbog
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 02/04/2008 18:22:51
Originally by: Ironnight Wait, so you stole it because the guy would have lost it? Yet you get to fly ships bigger then an ibis? Your biggest claim to fame is the way you throw away your multi billion isk ships.
No, man. We stole it because we could.
*Istvaan pulls on cigar*
fyp
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:24:00 -
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you all think you reply as we are this and that i was part of GHSC in past i did this,i di that is RUBBISH ,, you just STOLE what you saw you COULD you THIEVES thats all dont try and make me think otherwise you will ~FAIL, SORRY ALL opther think so too
you pathetic attemps at ressurectint the past to save your self FAIL
JIM
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:30:00 -
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We're not resurrecting anything. We got accused of something we did, admitted to it, it's no big deal. Two moms and a handful of officer junk isn't that much these days, and we didn't start this thread either. We're just replying to some posts and having fun.
Relax, G.
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CobraBytez
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:30:00 -
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tyrrax for goonswarm CEO
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BurritoThC
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Worth nothing ? ROFL I could've made an endless amount of ISK robbing IAC, I never touched any of their funds, if I'd wanted alliance executor position I would've had it.
I stole from a couple of guys in UMCON, there is a big difference between that and embezzling alliance funds I was by far the best leader IAC ever had and I'm most responsible for its strong position yesterday.
No clue how this drama of me being booted will affect alliance as a whole, but I think they'll be fine and kick -A-'s ass if it ever comes to a serious conflict.
You are the most responsible for the strong position IAC was in? LOL.
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Oofig VanDoogan
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: CobraBytez tyrrax for goonswarm CEO
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: BurritoThC You are the most responsible for the strong position IAC was in? LOL.
Absolutely, you have no clue at all what went on before ThC joined so don't try to pretend ThC/VileLust made much of a difference to anything. When I went on break and you guys took over you were reclaiming stations against practically no resistance with the Coalition's backing. You still made a mess of it and alliance was falling apart when I stepped back in to fix it. Which I did pretty well, IAC was stronger than ever until this announcement 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:39:00 -
[338]
Arenis Xemdal = DigitalCommunist, not me.
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Dave Borland
Einherjar Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:44:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Which I did pretty well, IAC was stronger than ever until I decided to rip it apart from the inside
I fixed it for you
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mishkof
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:49:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
No, man. We stole it because it was there.
*Istvaan pulls on cigar*
See this is the dude that I have nothing against in this little operation. He is like don King. He got TT to put it all on the line, do all the legwork, and all he has to do is show up and take the Mom.
Everyone knows Istvaan is a thief, and he got TT to do what was essentialy biomassing his character for the mere pittance of 2 moms.
Good play man.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:53:00 -
[341]
Originally by: mishkof
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
No, man. We stole it because it was there.
*Istvaan pulls on cigar*
See this is the dude that I have nothing against in this little operation. He is like don King. He got TT to put it all on the line, do all the legwork, and all he has to do is show up and take the Mom.
Everyone knows Istvaan is a thief, and he got TT to do what was essentialy biomassing his character for the mere pittance of 2 moms.
Good play man.
I'd like to state that this is not, in fact, my alt.
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Uncle Rukus
C.R.E.A.M.E.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:56:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: BurritoThC You are the most responsible for the strong position IAC was in? LOL.
Absolutely, you have no clue at all what went on before ThC joined so don't try to pretend ThC/VileLust made much of a difference to anything. When I went on break and you guys took over you were reclaiming stations against practically no resistance with the Coalition's backing. You still made a mess of it and alliance was falling apart when I stepped back in to fix it. Which I did pretty well, IAC was stronger than ever until this announcement 
I want what he is smoking
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Alpha997
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:57:00 -
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I normally don't respond much to this stuff but this topic is simply "made of win" à
First of all IÆm very sorry Jim for your loss I remember at one point placing a bet on you loosing it while rating with it in doril. I could swear you had an alt that could sit in it while you were doing you carebear stuff but oh well, you were asking for it even by a simple fact of offering to everyone and their alt to take it for a spin. I do hope you rebuild it one day and protect it bit better.
TT stealing comes as no surprise to many people that spend some time with IAC like me. I can just imagine Isayo laughing at saying to himself ôyou were *****ing about my leadership? now look how bad can it beö but yet again that might have been the very reason behind they way he ôninjaö passed presidency to TT. Funny how when people suggested elections, all the drones came out screaming OMG !! OMG !! no one is capable of leading IAC we need someone with all the contacts like Tyrrax. Now that I think about it if you picked random person from Jita local and asked him to lead IAC it would be a much better choice. It breaks my hart to see IAC torn apart by stuff like that, but yet again who are IAC now if I recall right after ODD corps left IAC was down to 14 corps now its up to 30+ ? I think all that is left of old IAC is the name and few people that just didnÆt get the memo. Like someone mentioned before there are entire corps in IAC operating in the same way TT did, simply following their own agenda and where there is a time to do some work they are nowhere to be found. When confronted they bunch up together attacking back anyone who attempts to come close, Genco might a great example here. To be fair I have to say there are few good people left in IAC and I hope enough to pull this alliance once again back up from the hole, you still have chance to do it but I think just getting rid of TT might not be enough and kicking few other known offenders would be a much better fresh start you very much need. And while adding to the bill, make sure you remember the ISK TT was collecting for the IAC Titan fund. At the time of me leaving IAC I recall that nice chunk of cash was still in his hands.
Tyrrax responsible for the IAC strong position? Look closely at history of IAC and you will notice any time he was a president big stain marks it. He keeps talking about his ôbreaköà the way it happened if my memory serves me well was that he simply logged off the day Fat failed and without saying anything and vanished for months. |

notdiscostu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: notdiscostu on 02/04/2008 18:57:18
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idrop
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:57:00 -
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It was very well-played, but I am a little surprised at the small amount of value. 40bil is so small on today's scale, I'd expect that sacrificing the character of Tyrrax would have been worth much more. Coulda milked them longer, for more profits.
Unless, of course, they secretly are still going to ... ZE PLOT THICKENS!
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:03:00 -
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Sacrificing what ? I still have my character, my contacts, my experience. You guys think I'm just going to biomass because of this ? rofl I live for this kind of thing, especially the threads and the drama, the ISK doesn't even matter anymore. 
Oh and Alpha, try counting the corps again, we were quite selective about recruitment and didn't let in any tiny corps.
Your memory of my break is flawed by your lack of activity, I stayed active until the attack on F4R was repulsed and GBC gave up on taking us out.
Only when the danger was past did I take an extremely well deserved break after months of slowing down their advance on this front while our allies conquered their holdings elsewhere.
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Korinn
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:05:00 -
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How is this even close to sacrificing a character?
It is, however, absolutely hilarious and its also pretty funny that people didn't see this coming a mile off, and while I sorta feel for Jim, it's his own fault for being too trusting with his expensive ****.
Nicely played by Morris, Sith & Iccy though, well done 
p.s. Incredible dramabombs like this are why I still play eve.
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Zzebulon
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:05:00 -
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Nominated in the category : -best CAOD thread since 2006
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Phantasmo
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Zzebulon Nominated in the category : -best CAOD thread since 2006
More like 05 --------------------------------------------------- <AlthairErin> > well the positive thing about this here, is now I know how goons felt in syndicate =) |

mishkof
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: mishkof on 02/04/2008 19:08:16
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'd like to state that this is not, in fact, my alt.
I am sure it is. I was talking about your personality as a whole...including all your characters. You got someone else to **** away their character for your own benefit, unless you are in fact TT.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
No, man. We stole it because it was there.
*Istvaan pulls on cigar*
Istvaan = Win.
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:13:00 -
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/me reads thread
Yeah , this is why I joined Eve.
/me goes back to killing farmers with a large smile
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu edit: Wow, that was unpleasant, I felt pity for someone. Won't happen again.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Sacrificing what ? I still have my character, my contacts, my experience. You guys think I'm just going to biomass because of this ? rofl I live for this kind of thing, especially the threads and the drama, the ISK doesn't even matter anymore. 
Five bucks says that a year from now Tyrrax will be head of another alliance. The Eve community has the collective memory span of a goldfish about these things. Then we'll rob them again, and they'll be all surprised, and post how nobody will ever trust us again and we might as well biomass, and the circle of grief shall begin anew...
Beautiful, isn't it? *wipes tear*
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:21:00 -
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your just a thief everyone knows you are pls stop posting to boost your ego,
it is sad we all hate you if you dont know by now you either an idiot or a moron
i vote Moron 
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 02/04/2008 19:25:22 People who get their information from the forums should refrain from posting.
@Igor Walesa: Arenis Xemdal hasn't been my secret identity for over two years now, and most of BoB (plus its enemies) would know it. Its kind of hard to miss "DigitalCommunist / Arenis Xemdal" on teamspeak. I would have ditched him ages ago, but he is a really awesome capital character. Not to mention you only need to do a quick info ingame to see hes part of my 4 man corp.
@mishkof: You'd rather believe a good story, than the truth. HG does fantastic PR, roleplay and storywriting, he doesn't get involved. If those things can be considered playing EVE, than he actually plays. Sort of like Mittani. :V
Btw, I take isk for autographs and ****. For extra, I'll even sign all those jiggling GoonSwarm mantities I brought to EVE. HydroSan can have one on the house :3 _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |

Feng Schui
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:25:00 -
[356]
Ok.
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Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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EvilPhog
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:27:00 -
[357]
Always taking donations from rich people who like sexy dances.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:27:00 -
[358]
God hates Thiefs
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 02/04/2008 19:29:57
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Sacrificing what ? I still have my character, my contacts, my experience. You guys think I'm just going to biomass because of this ? rofl I live for this kind of thing, especially the threads and the drama...
Even though my fingers are itching I will control myself and not add any more fuel to the fire.
Maybe you should gag yourself a little more as well, TT. You have had enough attention for today, have you not?
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mishkof
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: mishkof on 02/04/2008 19:30:36
Originally by: DigitalCommunist People who get their information from the forums should refrain from posting.
@Igor Walesa: Arenis Xemdal hasn't been my secret identity for over two years now, and most of BoB (plus its enemies) would know it. Its kind of hard to miss "DigitalCommunist / Arenis Xemdal" on teamspeak. I would have ditched him ages ago, but he is a really awesome capital character. Not to mention you only need to do a quick info ingame to see hes part of my 4 man corp.
@mishkof: You'd rather believe a good story, than the truth. HG does fantastic PR, roleplay and storywriting, he doesn't get involved. If those things can be considered playing EVE, than he actually plays. Sort of like Mittani. :V
Btw, I take isk for autographs and ****. For extra, I'll even sign all those jiggling man******* I brought to EVE. HydroSan can have one on the house :3
I hear you. I guess I am a little to harsh when I say it is bio massing a character.
I will however ask though: Who do you think makes more ISK, Chribba who built on his good name so all he has to do is sit back and collect, or someone who uses their good name for a one-time heist? Especialy when that heist makes it so no large money will ever be put near that charcter again by outside parties.
That is the reference I was hoping people would connect with but I guess I have to spell it out.
I understand the noteriety. I myself would pay a fee to have Istvaan on my third character slot...but it is a small sum as compared to what Chribba makes in a month collecting peoples API information...
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:33:00 -
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Tyrrax never had a good name as far as I'm aware. Everyone always knew he had some strange past connections, and there was always a risk he was going to steal something. So he's hardly using "his good name" for a one-time heist. And as far as I'm aware Tyrrax has been ridiculously rich since time began anyway.
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:43:00 -
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tyrraxx is only where he is because he used to be a security guard at ccp, and was in with the GM's , i dont give f about it any more go figure. 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:53:00 -
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slim like bruce lee baby
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Kryztal
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:54:00 -
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And this thread keeps on delivering ! 
.. Little tip for you there Jim, might want to tone down the bitterness while you still have the people on your side 
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tropic24
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:55:00 -
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Tyrrax all know you a slick snake now, please dont post we will jkust laugh you 
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5mokey McPot
Caeco Dominus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:57:00 -
[366]
TT, Istvaan and Raem 3 of the ugliest ppl to play eve c/d
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Znaei
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: 5mokey McPot TT, Istvaan and Raem 3 of the ugliest ppl to play eve c/d
Id hit 'em.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: 5mokey McPot TT, Istvaan and Raem 3 of the ugliest ppl to play eve c/d
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pls follow up with pics of our ugliness I bet you have some handy.
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5mokey McPot
Caeco Dominus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: 5mokey McPot TT, Istvaan and Raem 3 of the ugliest ppl to play eve c/d
CCCCCCCCC
pls follow up with pics of our ugliness I bet you have some handy.
Actual TT posted one of you 3 in another thread and goddam it offened my poor eyes
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal And this thread keeps on delivering ! 
.. Little tip for you there Jim, might want to tone down the bitterness while you still have the people on your side 
Ah. I would enjoy some drama between Molle and his BoB alliance more.
And it seems TT is in a posting frenzy and can not be stopped.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:09:00 -
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Last post on this subject for now.
Originally by: mishkof
I hear you. I guess I am a little to harsh when I say it is bio massing a character.
I will however ask though: Who do you think makes more ISK, Chribba who built on his good name so all he has to do is sit back and collect, or someone who uses their good name for a one-time heist? Especialy when that heist makes it so no large money will ever be put near that charcter again by outside parties.
That is the reference I was hoping people would connect with but I guess I have to spell it out.
I understand the noteriety. I myself would pay a fee to have Istvaan on my third character slot...but it is a small sum as compared to what Chribba makes in a month collecting peoples API information...
Chribba is probably richer, although it would be hard to say when you have people who are so upset with BoB they throw 56bil isk down the drain. People want to believe things so badly they'll avert their eyes from all the facts.
And even though Tyrrax joined and left IAC on bad grounds, he is still responsible for its growth and survival. IAC was a nobody alliance with a few hundred characters when he assumed power, just struggling to fend off pirates in Curse. Cult of personality is what kept it going, and kept it intact, not to mention the solid manipulation of nearby entities like CVA, AAA, and GS. Every time IAC has been on the brink of annihilation, someone has come in to save the day through Tyrrax's diplomatic efforts.
To compare, Goons before Remedial were incapable of forming a long term corp. Every time they recruited a bunch of people and plateaued, they'd crash and implode to drama. Goons in EVE have a history of failure longer than most organizations' existence. He kept them together with unbreakable dictatorship, and now they've got enough momentum to keep going without relying on such systems.
Despite this, Remedial is a clueless and incompetent dolt. He is one of the worst players I've ever had the misfortune to know, and GoonFleet was nothing more than a much needed ego boost when he got kicked around everywhere else. He was always on the edge of screwing it over for personal benefit, just like Tyrrax. And he too, did many of the same maneuvers as Tyrrax - go awol when things get tough or boring, then come back and take over with force.
My experience with UQS was similar, admittedly. They were struggling newbies, who couldn't fight or do anything. After doing everything in my power to ensure the existing leadership failed miserably, I assumed control and built the corp up. I gave them some pride, self-respect, self confidence and a long term vision.
When I betrayed them, it was mostly painful because they owed so much to my efforts. I didn't hound them after, because I knew they wouldn't peak to the same level again on their own. I was right, and they ended up imploding on terms that could make them feel nostalgic for the days when I ran things.
GoonSwarm moved past Remedial somehow (even though Rigel thought it would be the end, and that I would buy his crappy info), and even managed to strike back with the peenor pictures. So here you have three identical situations. In one, the corp survives, the other it dies. So what will happen to IAC?
My money goes on their demise. Odyssey probably left a fresh leadership vacuum that Tyrrax hasn't had time to fill in yet. And it also gives disillusioned IAC pilots a place to go away from this mess. AAA isn't going to refrain from attacking, just because they don't know the full extent of IAC's corruption.
Its a good week to be playing EVE, this much breakdown of the polarization has been coming for a long time. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |

CobraBytez
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: 5mokey McPot TT, Istvaan and Raem 3 of the ugliest ppl to play eve c/d
CCCCCCCCC
pls follow up with pics of our ugliness I bet you have some handy.
I heard you have purple hair.
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Hrin
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:13:00 -
[373]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Last post on this subject for now.
Originally by: mishkof
I hear you. I guess I am a little to harsh when I say it is bio massing a character.
I will however ask though: Who do you think makes more ISK, Chribba who built on his good name so all he has to do is sit back and collect, or someone who uses their good name for a one-time heist? Especialy when that heist makes it so no large money will ever be put near that charcter again by outside parties.
That is the reference I was hoping people would connect with but I guess I have to spell it out.
I understand the noteriety. I myself would pay a fee to have Istvaan on my third character slot...but it is a small sum as compared to what Chribba makes in a month collecting peoples API information...
Chribba is probably richer, although it would be hard to say when you have people who are so upset with BoB they throw 56bil isk down the drain. People want to believe things so badly they'll avert their eyes from all the facts.
And even though Tyrrax joined and left IAC on bad grounds, he is still responsible for its growth and survival. IAC was a nobody alliance with a few hundred characters when he assumed power, just struggling to fend off pirates in Curse. Cult of personality is what kept it going, and kept it intact, not to mention the solid manipulation of nearby entities like CVA, AAA, and GS. Every time IAC has been on the brink of annihilation, someone has come in to save the day through Tyrrax's diplomatic efforts.
To compare, Goons before Remedial were incapable of forming a long term corp. Every time they recruited a bunch of people and plateaued, they'd crash and implode to drama. Goons in EVE have a history of failure longer than most organizations' existence. He kept them together with unbreakable dictatorship, and now they've got enough momentum to keep going without relying on such systems.
Despite this, Remedial is a clueless and incompetent dolt. He is one of the worst players I've ever had the misfortune to know, and GoonFleet was nothing more than a much needed ego boost when he got kicked around everywhere else. He was always on the edge of screwing it over for personal benefit, just like Tyrrax. And he too, did many of the same maneuvers as Tyrrax - go awol when things get tough or boring, then come back and take over with force.
My experience with UQS was similar, admittedly. They were struggling newbies, who couldn't fight or do anything. After doing everything in my power to ensure the existing leadership failed miserably, I assumed control and built the corp up. I gave them some pride, self-respect, self confidence and a long term vision.
When I betrayed them, it was mostly painful because they owed so much to my efforts. I didn't hound them after, because I knew they wouldn't peak to the same level again on their own. I was right, and they ended up imploding on terms that could make them feel nostalgic for the days when I ran things.
GoonSwarm moved past Remedial somehow (even though Rigel thought it would be the end, and that I would buy his crappy info), and even managed to strike back with the peenor pictures. So here you have three identical situations. In one, the corp survives, the other it dies. So what will happen to IAC?
My money goes on their demise. Odyssey probably left a fresh leadership vacuum that Tyrrax hasn't had time to fill in yet. And it also gives disillusioned IAC pilots a place to go away from this mess. AAA isn't going to refrain from attacking, just because they don't know the full extent of IAC's corruption.
Its a good week to be playing EVE, this much breakdown of the polarization has been coming for a long time.
So you're saying we need to see pics of tyrrax's wang for IAC to survive.
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Dramaticus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist wall of words involving Remedial
since you brought him up, here is what GLORIOUS LEADER has been doing since leaving GoonFleet.
http://www.whattoexpect.com/profile/mommydargon
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: CobraBytez
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: 5mokey McPot TT, Istvaan and Raem 3 of the ugliest ppl to play eve c/d
CCCCCCCCC
pls follow up with pics of our ugliness I bet you have some handy.
I heard you have purple hair.
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Urban killer
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dramaticus
Originally by: DigitalCommunist wall of words involving Remedial
since you brought him up, here is what GLORIOUS LEADER has been doing since leaving GoonFleet.
http://www.whattoexpect.com/profile/mommydargon
how far the mighty have fallen.
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slip66
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:18:00 -
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haah. This thread has to be one of the best ever. It will be interesting to see what kind of impact this has on IAC and on the eve universe.
nice Job COL guys!
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Jack Brazen
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist Some good posts.
Quality post there DigitalCommunist, and indeed in the whole thread. I'm not always a fan of yours, but I like this mode. It feels like truth, and indeed is a good insight to some of the politics behind these things. In the spirit of this thread though, I think enjoying it for the unfolding drama it is, is a safer choice than basing decisions of it, but great reads.
In fact, a lot of great posts in this unfolding drama, and a lot of history presented for us relative newcomers to the game - hell, its like Christmas all over again, except the presents are drama and the cookies are tears.
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tigress
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:20:00 -
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Just to clarify, TT did not steal from IAC, he stole from two of his corpmates.
I wish that we atleast keep this a thread as truthfullas we can, or as colbert would put it, full of thruthiness.
I cant see the relation between goons, your corp and IAC, DC, since its not close to related. I will however say that it has left IAC in a new situation which we have to get out of. |

DELTA9ONLINE2
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:25:00 -
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I told you guys along time ago about tyraxx and things just like this.... Especially the ghsc... So I hope IAC gets what they deserve.
And btw tyraxx...you are a liar, a theif, and above all, a backstabber...(which is why i left iac in the first place) I hope you rot in hell... Its especially funny that it took actions such as this to show your real colors...Way to go loser.. Sorry for the mom loss Jim...
BUT I TOLD YOU SO 
signed D-9 Yarr
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:28:00 -
[381]
you guys wanna see what me and my identical twin bro look like?
here you go :
http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa274/jimplovell/?action=view¤t=JimTimPicture.jpg
jim is on left getting degree :P and me Tim on right im sexy ofc lol
hahaha
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Omeega
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:29:00 -
[382]
Originally by: Dramaticus
Originally by: Omeega gj mo/sith/digi
<3
what took you so long to post here oh yeah thats right youre stuck reading GF and scrapheap at work haha
enjoy your ban.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Avernus
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:42:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: BurritoThC You are the most responsible for the strong position IAC was in? LOL.
Absolutely, you have no clue at all what went on before ThC joined so don't try to pretend ThC/VileLust made much of a difference to anything. When I went on break and you guys took over you were reclaiming stations against practically no resistance with the Coalition's backing. You still made a mess of it and alliance was falling apart when I stepped back in to fix it. Which I did pretty well, IAC was stronger than ever until this announcement 
Kinda sounds like Nez. Waiting for the future 'omg IAC sucks without me' posts.
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Alpha997
Infinity Enterprises Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:43:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Your memory of my break is flawed by your lack of activity, I stayed active until the attack on F4R was repulsed and GBC gave up on taking us out.
Only when the danger was past did I take an extremely well deserved break after months of slowing down their advance on this front while our allies conquered their holdings elsewhere.
Yes, I was very inactive loosing caps under your glorious commandà let me quote your famous order that might refresh the memory ôAll caps to the gate !!!ö
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:54:00 -
[385]
Hey at least I killed caps too =)
MC and ISS are both down a mothership thanks to my glorious leadership, IAC's excellent tackling russians and a little backup from -A- to help deliver the deathblows.
Of course you could say I've cost IAC four But really one of those was just me soloing and getting ganked, and the one in F4R was mostly the pilot's fault, I was barely present for that one and not in charge of caps or subcaps.
(tried to help in an archon but lagged out)
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Corwain
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:55:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Corwain Wow, that's quite a loss mail. Is GHSC still in the black for this operation after that?
You tell me. (old screenshot, much richer now)
According to this TT lost 60bil worth of stuff in that death. My question was will the remaining mothership and mods actually sell for more than 60bil? I'm just eyeballing it but I'd say it's pretty close. My question was are you in the black for this operation (not your wallet) -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |

gfldex
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:08:00 -
[387]
Originally by: EvilPhog Always taking donations from rich people who like sexy dances.
I can recommend EvilPhog as a dancer. His talent is yet to be met. When his hips start swinging on the dance floor girls and boys alike freeze and stare the erotic waves he causes. --
There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
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Claudius Tiberius
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:19:00 -
[388]
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Also if I remember right the famous goon fakeposter CobraBytez called Thyraxx and most IAC leadership being GH-SC alts long long ago (c/d?) in some fake scamming post he made.
See what happens when you mess wit' da Cobra?
Oh Oooh! My turn! my turn! hold on, hold on, here it comes:
You get da Bytez???!!! 
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128th ABC123
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:20:00 -
[389]
Originally by: Claudius Tiberius
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Also if I remember right the famous goon fakeposter CobraBytez called Thyraxx and most IAC leadership being GH-SC alts long long ago (c/d?) in some fake scamming post he made.
See what happens when you mess wit' da Cobra?
Oh Oooh! My turn! my turn! hold on, hold on, here it comes:
You get da Bytez???!!! 
Meh... it keeps resetting to my damned alt...
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:26:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Corwain Edited by: Corwain on 02/04/2008 20:57:20 nvm (I'm joining the club)
None of the killboards have the correct ISK calculations yet :-(
hey no one likes you now pls retire i will take your stuff (ewww( we all know is crap but meh ill make do
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Timebomb
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:31:00 -
[391]
This is Jovius. All I have to say is Jim lol pwned and Tyrrax can I pls have an MS =/ Im not picky any will do.
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Treyah
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:48:00 -
[392]
Epic thread, nice job Tyrrax - you pansy looking woman. Kinda funny how you got stabbed in the back with your own knife. To the OP: I think what you did was a pretty good and noble move, grats
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Gustavus Adolphus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:53:00 -
[393]
Edited by: Gustavus Adolphus on 02/04/2008 21:56:25 As an aside, any corp thief that would like to fence their capital or bigger ships, please contact me in game. We offer competitive prices, and complete discretion. There will never be a thread disclosing who you are or what you sold us or for how much -- just cash on the barrel-head for your shiny new ship.
Just EVE-mail Gustavus Adolphus for the best deals in town on your hot caps.
--- Gustavus Adolphus --- --- Infinity Commerce ---
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:53:00 -
[394]
Bastadio, I spit on you bastadio
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Del369
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:54:00 -
[395]
If you know Jim you just can't help but feel for his loss, he's alright. Tyraxx, nice to see you unmasked you muppet ;) If I was in any kind of control in IAC I'd make damn sure every Alt in any Corp which holds any of the minutist purse strings in IAC is vouched for or neuked like yesterday because he already said he does it for the reaction  There is/was a lot of good peeps in IAC, it was my home for a long time to, don't tar them all with the same brush as the Icelandic ***** addict eh 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Nicholai Stropkov
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:04:00 -
[396]
Originally by: tropic24 you guys wanna see what me and my identical twin bro look like?
here you go :
http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa274/jimplovell/?action=view¤t=JimTimPicture.jpg
jim is on left getting degree :P and me Tim on right im sexy ofc lol
hahaha
This is what you're playing while afk in EVE?
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muuuurr
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:12:00 -
[397]
hmmm ok i shouldnt post hehe
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Lowa
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:15:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Yalson
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 02/04/2008 16:45:44 Anyone that falls asleep in a MoM by a station does not deserve to have that ship, frig or MoM. Members of BoB better know that I will shoot them down myself.
You might want to discuss that approach with Blacklight if he ever logs back in :)
/me goes to look at that old vid... <3 BL!
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Bastables
The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:43:00 -
[399]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Last post on this subject for now.
My experience with UQS was similar, admittedly. They were struggling newbies, who couldn't fight or do anything. After doing everything in my power to ensure the existing leadership failed miserably, I assumed control and built the corp up. I gave them some pride, self-respect, self confidence and a long term vision.
When I betrayed them, it was mostly painful because they owed so much to my efforts. I didn't hound them after, because I knew they wouldn't peak to the same level again on their own. I was right, and they ended up imploding on terms that could make them feel nostalgic for the days when I ran things.
Same fake story as can be exibited by your mewling posts :why don't you just die." several months after the theft.
UQS only folded after Miral was banned by ccp for entering ISD forums and showing how the ISD system was corrupt as all get out. Be reclaimed, and be loved
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Gharthak
BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:56:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Hey at least I killed caps too =)
MC and ISS are both down a mothership thanks to my glorious leadership, IAC's excellent tackling russians and a little backup from -A- to help deliver the deathblows.
Of course you could say I've cost IAC four But really one of those was just me soloing and getting ganked, and the one in F4R was mostly the pilot's fault, I was barely present for that one and not in charge of caps or subcaps.
(tried to help in an archon but lagged out)
Yeah but you personally have lost like 5 or 6x more than that on the battlefield in the past 6 months.
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:58:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Bastables You suck, Mirial is awesome, etc etc
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General Windypops
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:13:00 -
[402]
Hey Tyrrraxx! I think you're below me at the moment on the forum respectometer - how does that feel?
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Phrixus Zephyr
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:17:00 -
[403]
Originally by: General Windypops Hey Tyrrraxx! I think you're below me at the moment on the forum respectometer - how does that feel?
Not really.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:33:00 -
[404]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: General Windypops Hey Tyrrraxx! I think you're below me at the moment on the forum respectometer - how does that feel?
Not really.
lol.. you just broken a little alts heart  ------------------
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Icy Z
Superstars from Outer Space
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:35:00 -
[405]
Edited by: Icy Z on 02/04/2008 23:35:22
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: General Windypops Hey Tyrrraxx! I think you're below me at the moment on the forum respectometer - how does that feel?
Not really.
lol.. you just broken a little alts heart 
Me likes the General. 
He is funny.
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Killer Raccoon
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:58:00 -
[406]
mmm-k all I have to say is this: karma also, f*** you tyraxx |

Ivan En'Vec
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:59:00 -
[407]
I was wondering why this all blew over after Val catching TT red-handed and posting about it. She wouldn't lie about something like that.
My condolences to Jim of course - in my months in IAC he was always the most drunk and most fun to have around. You have to be low to steal from corpmates, but just pure scum to do it to Jim Lovell.
I hope IAC can figure out who the corrupt ones are and who's actually in it for the alliance... it's going to be hard to root out spies and thiefs in something this big with multiple leaders being involved. As an ex-umcon member and current EXIT pilot (ex-IAC corp), I really do hope the best for IAC. This thread does make me sad though.
:(
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Wesley Baird
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Posted - 2008.04.03 00:40:00 -
[408]
Good thread! Not surprised at all...CAOD needed a week like this!
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bfmReciprocity
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:11:00 -
[409]
More shooting, Less talking. |

Spenz
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:15:00 -
[410]
This is too epic! I'm going to have a seizure!
If I had an Alt I would probably post with it... |

M1NeR
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:18:00 -
[411]
LOL you rock Morris, that made my day %) . Nice one really. I bet you are enjoying your new WV . ---
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the rainingdeath
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:22:00 -
[412]
noo say it aint so ! but but TT had a massive post count on teh IAC forums that means he must be trustworthy enough to lead IAC amirite Markius Proxim?
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Bastables
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:52:00 -
[413]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Bastables You suck, Mirial is awesome, etc etc
Leave the boldfaced lying to professionals, Bastables. You're just a silly victim.
Wipe yourself off, your failures are being exposed. Be reclaimed, and be loved
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shivan
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:21:00 -
[414]
Funny stuff seeing a theif get robbed!!!

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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:30:00 -
[415]
Originally by: shivan Funny stuff seeing a theif get robbed!!!

Aye heh, we've had it coming for a long time. Risks of the job, I guess ;)
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Lordus Mark
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:30:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Jade Constantine Interesting to see who will take in TT now and whether his resurgent GHSC will get many contracts in the future.
Lots of people willing to. GHSC makes a perfect KGB/CIA style of play.
********************************** RDK Trusting Holders Need a job done? Quietly? Have a word with us.
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Errellion
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:35:00 -
[417]
Wow. Some of us log on to have a bit of fun, play the game, s**t talk with friends. The whole original theft was pathetic let alone the Guiding Hand being pathological thieves (while I'll admit the first 'contract' was a bit of a laugh and deserved marked respect for how you did it and I like the fact the game allows such realistic ventures) but once was enough don't you think? Or perhaps something more epic such as the last one rather than just thieving it 'cos you could?
Jim - by all accounts, you deserved to lose it - tough s**t
Morris - I'd rather you have it than the GHSC - well done
GHSC - I maybe a nothing to the world of Eve but that action wasn't epic, it was pure base cr*p, no afore mentioned respect from me. ------------------------------------------
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Clinically
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:47:00 -
[418]
epic  ________________
Originally by: Evil Thug I wear pink panties.
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Attak
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Posted - 2008.04.03 03:08:00 -
[419]
How do I join GHSC?
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Kylegar
Dawn of Fire Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.04.03 03:43:00 -
[420]
Epic. The GHSC story in PC Gamer is what got me interested in this game, and I have to say, wow...Did not expect Tyrrax to be GH-SC. I guess I'm not a good forum *****. --
Originally by: CCP Ginger No sex changes.
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Vasili Z
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Posted - 2008.04.03 03:52:00 -
[421]
Snakes slither in the grass spineless. -------
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Aglaraana Detruse
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Posted - 2008.04.03 04:10:00 -
[422]
should be mentioned that TT also paid 12 billion up front for an Aeon that hes not going to get 
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Kular
Dark Seraph Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.04.03 04:17:00 -
[423]
Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 02/04/2008 15:13:25
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: ry ry
but in mirial's case, there was enough doubt cast against her character to make her destruction hold a certain karmic appeal. the collapse of her corp was the coup de grGce, following a positively Machiavellian tale.
Mirial's corporation did not collapse as a result of the heist.
perhaps collapse was a little strong, but i assumed Ubiquita Seraph never really recovered, what with their current lack of.. uuh.. Ubiquitousness?
apologies to Ubiquita if they're still kicking around. clearly your demise has been greatly exaggerated.
It officially ended about 2 days ago when I, the last member left
But yes the theft broke the corps back, luckily the newly formed alliance carried it on for a couple more years before what was left of UQS move on and I took my long break from eve. |

Xiong Yoshi
Quantum Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.03 04:18:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Aglaraana Detruse should be mentioned that TT also paid 12 billion up front for an Aeon that hes not going to get 
Is that 12 Billion going to go to Jim? ------------------------------------------------ There are only two types of ships: those which have blown up; and those which will.
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Anton Marx
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Posted - 2008.04.03 04:55:00 -
[425]
Originally by: Kylegar Epic. The GHSC story in PC Gamer is what got me interested in this game, and I have to say, wow...Did not expect Tyrrax to be GH-SC. I guess I'm not a good forum *****.
That was a well-known fact for the leaders of UMCON/IAC.
...the ones that cared anyway 
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D'ceet
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Posted - 2008.04.03 05:27:00 -
[426]
oh dear...with the goonswarm directorate issues, this, the RA corp leaving, and FC's switching sides, im running out of popcorn...
10/10
this thread delivers
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Vile rat
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Posted - 2008.04.03 05:34:00 -
[427]
Dammit Jim! Why did you have to be dumb with your mothership and make these people think they are relevant again?
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Zorland
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Posted - 2008.04.03 06:06:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
stuff
Looks like you decided to leave the sinking ship and get some profit before you do so. We all know who leaves the sinking ship first... I have to say I didn't expect anything better then this from someone like you.
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Fabrice Enchante
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Posted - 2008.04.03 06:09:00 -
[429]
Not a shock, but funny. ================<NEEDY>======================= POP goes the weasel. |

Azaqui
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Posted - 2008.04.03 06:19:00 -
[430]
This is mostly adressed to GH-SC members that have taken part in this heist.
For the record: I, like so many people, also took interest in the game after reading the PC Gamer article on the UQS affair.
I could almost see the new article in my minds eye:
"...after 3 years (insert the proper number here) of hard, undercover work TT finally made to being the head of huge 0.0 alliance. All those years of effort were finally going to give some reward. As soon as everything was in place..."
he stole two ships and ran ?!?! 
I mean.... that's like a criminal that fooled all the police screenings, all the financial experts, made it to the position of the CEO of Bank of England.... then... THEN.... stole his secretary's Morris Mini and ran.
Kind of disappointing - I would expect something massively more epic considering effort and the position you were at.
That being said, I am against thievery in this form, I despise the backstabbing and betrayal, and I really would think that giving Jim his Wyv back for finders fee of like 2 bil would be more like -A- I know (merciless but honourable).
This is just a personal point of view, having nothing to do with the views of my corp or my alliance.
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Zorland
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Posted - 2008.04.03 06:26:00 -
[431]
Originally by: Vile rat On behalf of Goonswarm we extend our heartfelt condolences to Jim for the underhanded loss of his Wyvern. We understand this is a difficult time and it makes us sick that somebody could do such a thing. We are currently reevaluating our relationship with IAC and will be making a decision on how to proceed in the coming days. We simply can not tolerate such actions and do not wish to associate with somebody who would do something like this.
Oh noes, and I bet all my ISk on you helping IAC against -A- 
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elrickslade
Debitum Naturae Rejuvenate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 07:31:00 -
[432]
Finally! page 16! I'm here at last! Good read BTW. " If there is such a thing as too much power, I have yet to discover it." |

Jane Spondogolo
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:00:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Vile rat On behalf of Goonswarm we extend our heartfelt condolences to Jim for the underhanded loss of his Wyvern. We understand this is a difficult time and it makes us sick that somebody could do such a thing. We are currently reevaluating our relationship with IAC and will be making a decision on how to proceed in the coming days. We simply can not tolerate such actions and do not wish to associate with somebody who would do something like this.
Oh noes, and I bet all my ISk on you helping IAC against -A- 
Rule #1. Never ever ever ever assume anything from goons posting on forums. You *may* have been trolled. ______ Unrepentant Southern Federation Cheerleader.
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Ted Raald
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:06:00 -
[434]
Originally by: 128th ABC123
It would be awesome to see them return the Wyvern
Originally by: Azaqui
I really would think that giving Jim his Wyv back for finders fee of like 2 bil would be more like -A- I know (merciless but honourable).
Originally by: Krieger
So whens Jim getting his Wyv back?
Originally by: 128th ABC123
The honorfull thing to do would be to return the Wyvern
etc. etc. etc.
Very interesting that CVA/Paxton/Sylph and friends keep asking that Mo returns his purchased MoM, but there hasn't been a single mention of them wanting the other MoM returned........
I'm really beginning to wonder why?
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Virene Mene
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:12:00 -
[435]
tin foil hats on!
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:12:00 -
[436]
lol @ all the "zomg, Tyrrax was GHSC??!?!ONE!!!ELEBEN!!!!?!?" posts. His status was exposed on Kugutsumen's for a while now.
Hah to Jim for losing it. Hahah to Tyrrax for stealing it. Hahahahaha to IAC for pwning Tyrrax in revenge.
oh, and Hahahahahahahahah to people that think DigiComm isn't GHSC anymore. Go ahead, keep believing the hype.
-- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Asuka Smith
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:49:00 -
[437]
At this point do I assume that the OP is a GHSC alt posting this as part of an internal feud and this is an epic shadow-duel... Or are GHSC cheap hoods same as any other corp thieves?
(I liked thinking of them as epic more)
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Xeliya
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Posted - 2008.04.03 09:42:00 -
[438]
Hope to see you work something out with Jim TBH, like selling it to him for half mineral price or something. Thus your still making a few bill and he gets his ship back.
Other then that nice job, glad TT has now become one of the most untrusted names in Eve.
Hopefully it's not too late for the new IAC leadership to save the sinking ship.
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Pawnee
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Posted - 2008.04.03 09:45:00 -
[439]
I made my first exploration sites with Jim's help and also made roaming gangs and battles with AAA. When I left IAC I thought about joining AAA like many IAC ppl did, who want to make PVP. AAA recruted whole corps from IAC.
Now I read an AAA guy stole Jims Wyvern and they red box the whole alliance IAC. More pewpew - ok, what mortis wrote - no. If you want to get rid of some metagamers in IAC - ok, but that is no reason to kick ppl like Jim in the balls. It is a shame. I expected something different. I still remember the words Evil Thug wrote in SHC after MC left BOB. Is that no more valid? I saw nothing happen in that direction from AAA. I hope for you all, that in the end no third party is profiting from what you are doing now.
best of luck to all.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.04.03 09:50:00 -
[440]
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke lol @ all the "zomg, Tyrrax was GHSC??!?!ONE!!!ELEBEN!!!!?!?" posts. His status was exposed on Kugutsumen's for a while now.
TT also mentioned it himself on various occasions. Maybe some people decided to overhear that. Like DC said, sometimes people tend to ignore facts because they want to believe something else. Besides, others who were "in on it" might have thought and still might think they were/are safe from any and all damages due to their knowledge.
I think there is two common mistakes many players in EVE make concerning scams and thievery.
1) Internet game friendships. Internet game friendships are mostly less binding than RL friendships. And even in RL friendships betrayal can happen. How often do we hear "...BUT I have known her/him for YEARS and TRUSTED her/him. How in the world could she/he do this to me...". At the same time we still think this will not happen to us, only to others. That might be a mistake.
2) Famous people. It seems to be part of human nature to trust famous people more than the average people from around the corner. I do not think this is wise. They are in no way better or more honest than your average Jim Doe. At least that is the way I see it. The revelations in this thread about TT, as well as the EIB scam which used positive vouches from famous people hint in the direction to be carefull. Chribba is above all doubts of course 
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke oh, and Hahahahahahahahah to people that think DigiComm isn't GHSC anymore. Go ahead, keep believing the hype.
Are we not all GH-SC somehow? What if GH-SC approaches you with a cool "mission" that will be oh so secret and oh so profitable? You might even get an oh so epic thread and become oh so famous. Tempted?
Recruitment for informants/spies/agents/operatives or whatever you want to call those involved in undercover work is surprisingly easy in EVE. Might be because the creation of alts is quick and hassle free. Also running a char in this field of business opens a new playing field in EVE, that has a special appeal to bored EVE players or those who just want to try out something new. In the end, it is all a game.
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Originally by: Xeliya Hope to see you work something out with Jim TBH, like selling it to him for half mineral price or something. Thus your still making a few bill and he gets his ship back.
Other then that nice job, glad TT has now become one of the most untrusted names in Eve.
Hopefully it's not too late for the new IAC leadership to save the sinking ship.
Morris said he isnt going to return the mom back to jim,i wouldnt because:
-Don fly want you cannot loose
-And for the love off god don let treat your super capitals like they were battleships and go afaik .... -AAA did a favor by keeping the mom a pilot that forgets and goes afaik with it in an unsafe enviriemeant is a liability to its alliance and its friends. ------------------------------------------------------------------
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ry ry
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:05:00 -
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As somebody who has no hand, or any particular interest, in the galactic politik all i get from this thread is the overwhelming feeling that the majority of CAOD posters are playing an entirely different game to me. more Floor 13 than Internet Spaceships.
it's also a wee bit disappointing that GHSC come out of this looking slightly shabby - going by Istvaan's burgeoning wallet, surely their reputation was worth more than a couple of Motherships?
still, the navy apoc kill was class (<3 killsons). presumably tyrrax wasn't being scouted because he doesn't have enough friends left to lend a hand?
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128th ABC123
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 03/04/2008 10:18:31
Originally by: Ted Raald
Originally by: 128th ABC123
It would be awesome to see them return the Wyvern
Originally by: Azaqui
I really would think that giving Jim his Wyv back for finders fee of like 2 bil would be more like -A- I know (merciless but honourable).
Originally by: Krieger
So whens Jim getting his Wyv back?
Originally by: 128th ABC123
The honorfull thing to do would be to return the Wyvern
etc. etc. etc.
Very interesting that CVA/Paxton/Sylph and friends keep asking that Mo returns his purchased MoM, but there hasn't been a single mention of them wanting the other MoM returned........
I'm really beginning to wonder why?
No tinfoil hat.
If I knew who had the 2nd Wyvern I'd still feel the same, stealing in my opinion is wrong (but a majority of our community thinks it's mandatory to be one of the cool kids)
Most probably because we hold you in high regard. It would be nice to see that your discipline and honour would extend further than the battlefield. Besides a good PR move it would simply be the right thing to do. And I think the majority of players/alliances in Providence try and do just that.
Some people on these forums say nobody can be trusted, but there are people that hold their reallife values high even in a fantasy spaceship game.
If the Wyvern stays with -A- without giving Jim (a last ) chance to get it back I would think less of your alliance. However I doubt anyone cares.
You asked, I answered. 
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Jallem Sims
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:20:00 -
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Jim built that ship and got the mins solo... he worked damn hard for it. If he wishes to go afk so falls a sleep wasted at his desk while crusing in his nice shiny ship HE built, so be it! If people want to help save him and fight to save his mom, thats cause he has friends. I wasn't there but i can garrentee TT was just one of many trying to stop the ship from popping... and i am pretty sure TT would have got there after it was mentioned in IRC and people already screaming for support on the intel channels.
TBH, its sad he never lost it then, cause that would have been his own fault.... instead he lost it to TT underhanded self man loving fame. TT never really help his alliance this time around, and lost a lot of good people from IAC and replaced them with carebears.... he came back for one thing and one thing only! This i am sure will be sorted now with a good Leader
Oh, and that guy that enjoyed showing us your wallet... well done. What does it prove though? seriously, the point of risk verses reward thing is not there for you... and what you do is long term build up for short gain. You have lots of isk, but its reather pointless for your game style, even if you go out ganking people.. this will get boring after awhile cause the is no risk for you. I am sure only a fifth of that amount is enough for most things you do. So having that isk proves only that you have isk. welldone! |

Fesken Rans
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:21:00 -
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I don't see why AAA should give the mom back, Jim was saying that it wasn't TT, right? AAA planed the deal, played the player, props to them, they deserve the MS.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ted Raald Very interesting that CVA/Paxton/Sylph and friends keep asking that Mo returns his purchased MoM, but there hasn't been a single mention of them wanting the other MoM returned........
I'm really beginning to wonder why?
What? 
I might have missed it - this is a long thread after all - but haven't seen any CVA comments regarding any motherships (or anything else for that matter) in this thread.
Please feel free to evemail me to explain what you are going on about.
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Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:02:00 -
[447]
fyi afaik= as far as i know afk = away from keyboard
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xBlood
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:06:00 -
[448]
And this is why I <3 mofo. (plus the fact that he gives me free rigs).
To everyone saying that we should give it back, why should we effectively give away 20b to someone who has proved they can't be trusted with one? Especially when that person isn't even blue to us.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: xBlood
To everyone saying that we should give it back, why should we effectively give away 20b to someone who has proved they can't be trusted with one? Especially when that person isn't even blue to us.
Of course, it's your decision, and all's fair in love and war.
However, have you considered the long term benefits of gaining a reputation for being a good sport and the long term implications for being known as scammers?
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128th ABC123
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Morris Falter No discussion. Its covered in the OP.
Yes we read your OP and I pressume you posted it on a public forum so that people can discuss it or voice their opinions. It is clear our opinions differ. Not more than that. You could have been Robin Hood, but you ended up being a crook too. You clearly state to TT that stealing is bad (I reckon you said this to validate your turning on him) however in most civilized countries it is still illegal to "buy" stolen goods and considered just as wrong as the "stealing" itself.
So to be honest, your OP makes you look kind of double faced.
Honestly dude, it would take the better man to give that ship back, it might be alot of isk, but I'd say it would be worth double that in your reputation.
Anyways, I'm out and made my point. Good luck IAC, Hope you get your ship back Jim and I hope -A- do the right thing. Oh.. and:
»\(¦_o)/»
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 03/04/2008 11:26:09
Originally by: 128th ABC123 however in most civilized countries it is still illegal to "buy" stolen goods and considered just as wrong as the "stealing" itself.
Around here it only is if you know it was stolen.  -----
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128th ABC123
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 03/04/2008 11:33:27
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 03/04/2008 11:26:09
Originally by: 128th ABC123 however in most civilized countries it is still illegal to "buy" stolen goods and considered just as wrong as the "stealing" itself.
Around here it only is if you know it was stolen. 
I honestly contemplated of putting that in my post... then I thought nah... most people are intelligent enough to read between the lines and fill the blanks... Boy was I WRONG....
Oh and for your effort you get 3 of em... »\(¦_o)/»
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Adeptus mecanicus
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 03/04/2008 11:26:09
Originally by: 128th ABC123 however in most civilized countries it is still illegal to "buy" stolen goods and considered just as wrong as the "stealing" itself.
Around here it only is if you know it was stolen. 
like your corp/alliance tag?? im rubbing my eyes and still see that your in BoB now.....last i heard you was going to breathe life into CRII again.....ohwell you aint blue so no worries 
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Treyah
The humble Crew Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:39:00 -
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Adeptus sighting!!! =D
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Piratejoe
54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:43:00 -
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What I would do is try too make a deal with IAC if I had the mom. A. Ask for at least the Isk that was used too purchase the mom. B. Ask for the items TT droped when the IAC guys poped him trying too escape. C. Must be set too good standing (If thats what you want too) D. Maybe a free dread or carrier
Then give Jim his Mom back, Yes you would lose some isk but what you would gain is alot of respect in the Eve community. Ships come and go, but respect is something that cannot be just bought in Jita it has too be earned. Imagine how this will help your recruiting drives or your diplomacy when you need help one day?
IAC would lose some items and isk but again as before the eyes of Eve are watching your alliance right now and how you handle this situation. How many pilots and corps will you keep or be able to recruit if you try too just forget this ever happened? It would be a huge moral booster for your remaining pilots in my opinion too know your alliance will be their to back them up isk wise if their chips are ever down.
Give the dang ship back, its the smart thing too do. P.S: and jim if you ever do get it back and you fall asleep again im gonna ram that thing with a ibis till it pops.
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Treyah
The humble Crew Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:44:00 -
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I'm with Piratejoe to be honest
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Royaldo
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:47:00 -
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people have warned about this for ages. once a theif, always a theif. at first a funny thread, but then the massive ego stroking began.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:58:00 -
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Morris is a hypocrit (and a ginger) , the entire reason for this thread is that there were jump clones in the Wyvern, and he can't remove them without the owners of them finding out who has it.
So he makes it public to get some attention and some pats on the back for scamming a lowlife thief  Bonus points for IAC being weakend by internal strife so his alliance doesn't get its ass kicked by a bunch of drunken carebears 
I'm surprised anyone is wasting their breath trying to get -A- of all people to return stolen goods, not exactly the posterchilds for "honorable" now are they ? What next? Pleading with BoB to stop being arrogant ? 
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128th ABC123
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Morris is a hypocrit (and a ginger) , the entire reason for this thread is that there were jump clones in the Wyvern, and he can't remove them without the owners of them finding out who has it.
So he makes it public to get some attention and some pats on the back for scamming a lowlife thief  Bonus points for IAC being weakend by internal strife so his alliance doesn't get its ass kicked by a bunch of drunken carebears 
I'm surprised anyone is wasting their breath trying to get -A- of all people to return stolen goods, not exactly the posterchilds for "honorable" now are they ? What next? Pleading with BoB to stop being arrogant ? 
Tyrrax, stop using this thread to your own good. Alliances like CVA and Sylph came out there to help you not so long ago, not only did you steal from your own corpmates, but you made us wonder what the hell we where doing there in the first place. It's up to new IAC leadership to show that IAC is not rotten to the core.
And as far as Morris is concerned, I still give him the benefit of the doubt, as he can still do the right thing.
"Time will tell, time will tell" (I loved that sentence from Red Alert 1994 was it? )
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tropic24
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:15:00 -
[460]
:)
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:17:00 -
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Don't get all mouthy on me Sylph guy, I appreciate the backup you guys gave to IAC but don't forget you only have that outpost because you bought it from ISS and I didn't care enough about it to say no you can't have it 
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123
And as far as Morris is concerned, I still give him the benefit of the doubt, as he can still do the right thing...
And keep the wyvern.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Don't get all mouthy on me Sylph guy, I appreciate the backup you guys gave to IAC but don't forget you only have that outpost because you bought it from ISS and I didn't care enough about it to say no you can't have it 
Find something high. Then jump of of it, head first.
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Future Thing
Ninja Warriors of the Round Table
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Don't get all mouthy on me Sylph guy, I appreciate the backup you guys gave to IAC but don't forget you only have that outpost because you bought it from ISS and I didn't care enough about it to say no you can't have it 
Find something high. Then jump of of it, head first.
Uh oh. Somebodies taking things a bit seriously. D:
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:24:00 -
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i'm not going to report your post, but you should probably edit it before the mods see it, i've gotten warnings for saying "diaf" 
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:26:00 -
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* takes another swig of beer.*
Great read...
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Commander BlackJack
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Morris Falter No discussion. Its covered in the OP.
You could have been Robin Hood, but you ended up being a crook too.
He's a Robin Hood. Or atleast to us 
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Randall Alba
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: Ted Raald Very interesting that CVA/Paxton/Sylph and friends keep asking that Mo returns his purchased MoM, but there hasn't been a single mention of them wanting the other MoM returned........
I'm really beginning to wonder why?
What? 
I might have missed it - this is a long thread after all - but haven't seen any CVA comments regarding any motherships (or anything else for that matter) in this thread.
Please feel free to evemail me to explain what you are going on about.
Same question from me, I haven't seen any comments from Paxton Federation members in this thread, I may have missed them.
Please feel free to contact me to explain your comments.
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Taz Devlin
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123 however in most civilized countries it is still illegal to "buy" stolen goods and considered just as wrong as the "stealing" itself.
This isn't a civilized country. This is 0.0 Regardless of origin, we scammed a two faced, doublecrossing scammer who most likely cost AAA many a ship by selling intel to the enemy. The ship stays where it is. Thank you for playing 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: Ted Raald Very interesting that CVA/Paxton/Sylph and friends keep asking that Mo returns his purchased MoM, but there hasn't been a single mention of them wanting the other MoM returned........
I'm really beginning to wonder why?
What? 
I might have missed it - this is a long thread after all - but haven't seen any CVA comments regarding any motherships (or anything else for that matter) in this thread.
Please feel free to evemail me to explain what you are going on about.
Apologies. I now see that a CVA member did make a comment. That is what you get for surfing the forums when not logged in and not recognising a new member's names .
At the end of the day this matter does not concern either CVA or Sylph or Paxton (as entities) and we should refrain from comment on the matter.
We can all make individual moral judgements on the behaviour of various participants in this drama but please do not assume that the various individuals presenting their opinions are necessarily representative of an 'official' alliance view!
Obviously, as neighbours, we do have an interest in the future direction and alignment of IAC but that is not something we will (or should) be debating on CAOD! 
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Vile rat
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:54:00 -
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Somebody steal me a Nyx please.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:56:00 -
[472]
np, i'll get right on it <3
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Vile rat
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk np, i'll get right on it <3
If you don't I'm going to be a whiny baby and put it in my sig and follow you around threads for months fyi.
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128th ABC123
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Wise statement, as usual for Hardin... 
I did not represent Sylph in any way and was indeed putting forward my own personal moral stance on the subject. Furthermore before I say anything more that can be wrongly interpreted by the Mods and get me some sort of ban from this wonderfull game, I am going to shut up and leave the rest of this thread to the trols to fill. »\(¦_o)/»
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Sith8
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Morris is a hypocrit (and a ginger) , the entire reason for this thread is that there were jump clones in the Wyvern, and he can't remove them without the owners of them finding out who has it.
So he makes it public to get some attention and some pats on the back for scamming a lowlife thief  Bonus points for IAC being weakend by internal strife so his alliance doesn't get its ass kicked by a bunch of drunken carebears 
I'm surprised anyone is wasting their breath trying to get -A- of all people to return stolen goods, not exactly the posterchilds for "honorable" now are they ? What next? Pleading with BoB to stop being arrogant ? 
I fail to see the hypocracy in Mo¦s actions. And you are mistaken TT, it was easy enough to repackage the MS or simply just have one of our out of ally chars board it to destroy clones. We wanted you. You have thiefed, scammed and lied your way to where you were two days ago. You have pretty much lived the high life at the expense of others may it be ISK, goods or deeds.
And don¦t try to turn this into "will aAa return it to jim" You Stole it from him We stole it from you. You broke the trust of your long time corpmember and kiked him from UMCON for being emo about it. We certainly broke your trust, but then again you are a liar and a thief and pretty proud of it too.
And plz spare us the bs about whos gonna kick whos ar*e, it¦s just as pathetic as you illutions of grandeur.
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Kurenin giving TT an Aeon is a case of him trying to desperately buy his way into GHSC again, and TT abusing that again. Aeon was earned with Kurenin's own isk, that he grinded outside of Evolution when he was awol. Never used it for anything relevant out of fear.
This is entirely untrue and based on nothing but your own warped interpretation of a situation you utterly failed to understand.
For many years I have been in contact with Arach, as I find him a most amusing and pleasant character. At no point have I expressed any desire to buy my way in or out of anything, despite what you say.
The receipt of a mothership by Arach was simply because I had been playing WoW exclusively for a period of 9 or so months and I had been constantly pestered by various parties on MSN to give them the ship. This infuriated me as I have no desire to be pestered while I am trying to play WoW. Arach and I thought it might amuse some people if I were to give it to him and this is what we did.
As for where I got the money to purchase the ship, you would be quite surprised, but I can say that it was in no way grinded.
It was never used by myself because the only reason I purchased it was because I had already quit EvE, had/have a very large sum of money with which I had nothing better to do than buy something large and useless.
On several occasions Valora and I tried to use the mothership in combat, but every single attempt in massive failure, with the enemy running away (or being killed by our two battleships before the mothership could load - remember I had 56k still back then). At every opportunity I tried to use the ship, but you will find that when you have no desire to play the game full time, finding a fight back then was quite hard.
Anyhow, I just felt I might as well set you straight. You probably will disbelieve the post but frankly I could not care less, I have not played eve for almost two years.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Morris Falter on 03/04/2008 13:18:39 heh, I never had any intention of paying for it.
edit: also, my hair is awesome.
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matty01
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk np, i'll get right on it <3
If you don't I'm going to be a whiny baby and put it in my sig and follow you around threads for months fyi.
hahahaha, nice
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Falhofnir
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Falhofnir on 03/04/2008 14:22:54
Originally by: Nephlite
things
Lies, I have never pestered you on msn ! Also, stop playing WOW. It's wrong. And I think it's time this thread ends tbh.
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Nephlite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:26:00 -
[480]
I have a job and other things to do except play games and as such I shall not quit the afforementioned game, which is both enjoyable and not time consuming.
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Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nephlite I have a job and other things to do except play games and as such I shall not quit the afforementioned game, which is both enjoyable and not time consuming.
well then, can i have your stuff pretty plz ? :D
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sith8 I fail to see the hypocracy in Mo¦s actions.
Unsurprising since you're a rather stupid guy 
Originally by: Sith8
And you are mistaken TT, it was easy enough to repackage the MS or simply just have one of our out of ally chars board it to destroy clones.
I wouldn't know, I just know how much Morris cried like a little baby about it on msn, maybe it was all an act 
Originally by: Sith8
We wanted you. You have thiefed, scammed and lied your way to where you were two days ago. You have pretty much lived the high life at the expense of others may it be ISK, goods or deeds.
Correct.
Originally by: Sith8
And don¦t try to turn this into "will aAa return it to jim"
That wasn't me, I always knew you wouldn't and somebody else brought it up.
Originally by: Sith8
You Stole it from him We stole it from you. You broke the trust of your long time corpmember and kiked him from UMCON for being emo about it.
I have always fought to keep Jim in UMCON, Aeolos and Max kicked him out because they couldn't stand him anymore.
Originally by: Sith8
We certainly broke your trust, but then again you are a liar and a thief and pretty proud of it too.
Yeah I knew it was a risk, and Istvaan was opposed to taking the chance but I chose to do so anyway so we could grab Shone's before they secured it, I've never claimed to be a good gambler and well this thread has been a long time coming, yes I screwed up and Morris played me, I'm not too bothered by losing control of IAC and 12-14 bil isk to a former friend.
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Space Harrier
Roman Holiday
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:12:00 -
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Most of the "big men" in eve got where they are today by doing bad things.
FACT
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Von Zarovick
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Space Harrier Most of the "big men" in eve got where they are today by doing bad things.
FACT
ehm ? no ?
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nephlite I have a job and other things to do except play games and as such I shall not quit the afforementioned game, which is both enjoyable and not time consuming.
Other things such as browsing boards from a game you don't even play. Let's find ourself a game that is truely enjoyable and not time consuming, and then I shall relieve you from the burden of boredom !
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:35:00 -
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gota, that doesn't even sound like Kurenin. Probably TT or HG doing damage control with his character or something.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:37:00 -
[487]
Can lock this thread now I think :P
PAGING MODS ON FLYING HORSES.
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist gota, that doesn't even sound like Kurenin. Probably TT or HG doing damage control with his character or something.
I haven't been insulted once, and I know Kurenin is a large enough douche to let no opportunity pass. 
Er no ,_,
gota, WC3.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:47:00 -
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Nephlite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:49:00 -
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In what way? I'm waiting for auctions of my epicly overpriced gems to sell while waiting for people to log on so that I can raid.
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ry ry
StateCorp Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nephlite In what way? I'm waiting for auctions of my epicly overpriced gems to sell while waiting for people to log on so that I can raid.
LFG BWL NO ROUGES
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:56:00 -
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lol morris begging for a lock, pathetic 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:57:00 -
[493]
Hey morris, can I join your corp ? Oh wait I'm already in it.
Nevermind.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk lol morris begging for a lock, pathetic 
Abusing people gets threads reopened I heard! 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:58:00 -
[495]
is replying 10 times in a row to a thread allowed ?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:58:00 -
[496]
maybe i can set some kind of record before your mods show up
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:58:00 -
[497]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Hey morris, can I join your corp ? Oh wait I'm already in it.
Nevermind.
Who isn't.. :<
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:59:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk maybe i can set some kind of record before your mods show up
I'll win!
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:00:00 -
[499]
HEY LOOK AT ME, I WANT SOME ATTENTION RIGHT HYWAH, THANKS.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:01:00 -
[500]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk HEY LOOK AT ME, I WANT SOME ATTENTION RIGHT HYWAH, THANKS.
TYRAX THORK WORST THIEF IN HISTORY C/D
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Future Thing
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk HEY LOOK AT ME, I WANT SOME ATTENTION RIGHT HYWAH, THANKS.
I refuse to give you any attent- ohwait. >.<
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:03:00 -
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DDDDDDD
I'M A GREAT THIEF, JUST LAZY AND SLOPPY AND UM WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT ?
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:04:00 -
[503]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk is replying 10 times in a row to a thread allowed ?
Talk to Grimpak about this. He used to argue with himself in threads.
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Morris Falter
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:05:00 -
[504]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_the_eagle
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Nekumi
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk DDDDDDD
I'M A GREAT THIEF, JUST LAZY AND SLOPPY AND UM WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT ?
How could you do something like this? How? Really can you tell me please so I can be like you.
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Cougem
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:06:00 -
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Hi I lent some guy called Tyrrax my big ship and I can't find him anywhere now. Anyone know how to get in touch?
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:07:00 -
[507]
What the devil is going on here? ------
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:09:00 -
[508]
Testing reaction times.
It is slow.
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NTRabbit
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: NTRabbit on 03/04/2008 16:09:00 I'm sorry cougem, but Mr Thorrk is currently using a private function room at the club. If you leave a message, he might get back to you. ------
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Nekumi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: NTRabbit What the devil is going on here?
GH-SC are a bunch of noobs and couldn't scam to save their lives. Much like the dinosaur they are now just a pile of goo. A big brown pile of goo and it smells stinky.
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NTRabbit
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:11:00 -
[511]
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: NTRabbit What the devil is going on here?
GH-SC are a bunch of noobs and couldn't scam to save their lives. Much like the dinosaur they are now just a pile of goo. A big brown pile of goo and it smells stinky.
Can I hear from someone who has levels of relevance and importance that are high enough to at least be visible from up here?
Thanks. ------
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Nekumi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:13:00 -
[512]
Originally by: NTRabbit
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: NTRabbit What the devil is going on here?
GH-SC are a bunch of noobs and couldn't scam to save their lives. Much like the dinosaur they are now just a pile of goo. A big brown pile of goo and it smells stinky.
Can I hear from someone who has levels of relevance and importance that are high enough to at least be visible from up here?
Thanks.
It's because I'm not a furry isn't it.
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:16:00 -
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Sure a CVA member did comment about the Wyvern. It's an open forum and all. It wasn't hard to find a couple pages back. And I didn't even look before that.
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Janice Forge
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:20:00 -
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possession of stolen goods is prosecuted in the same manner as the actual theft of stolen goods
in fact, knowingly purchasing stolen goods is also the same
that said, TT and Morris are filthy creatures
though in this case possession is 10 tenths of the law rather than 9....
have fun scummy thieves
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:23:00 -
[515]
Originally by: Janice Forge possession of stolen goods is prosecuted in the same manner as the actual theft of stolen goods
in fact, knowingly purchasing stolen goods is also the same
that said, TT and Morris are filthy creatures
though in this case possession is 10 tenths of the law rather than 9....
have fun scummy thieves
We're having loads of fun.
In fact, Istvaan has decided to inlay the entire hull of the Wyvern with Ivory and Blood Diamonds. ------
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Janice Forge
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:26:00 -
[516]
delicious
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NTRabbit
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:35:00 -
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I believe he's also decided to kill several million baby seals, and other soft and supple creatures in order to reupholster the interior of the vessel.
Once the slave work force has completed these cosmetic updates, they will be vented into space, in order for their quarters to be turned into the largest space borne humidor in the galaxy.
Afterall, what kind of office has no leather seats or cigars? ------
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Willford Bremly
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: NTRabbit
Originally by: Janice Forge possession of stolen goods is prosecuted in the same manner as the actual theft of stolen goods
in fact, knowingly purchasing stolen goods is also the same
that said, TT and Morris are filthy creatures
though in this case possession is 10 tenths of the law rather than 9....
have fun scummy thieves
We're having loads of fun.
In fact, Istvaan has decided to inlay the entire hull of the Wyvern with Ivory and Blood Diamonds.
AFK, seizuring from you sig.
»\(¦_o)/»
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NTRabbit
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:38:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Willford Bremly
Originally by: NTRabbit
Originally by: Janice Forge possession of stolen goods is prosecuted in the same manner as the actual theft of stolen goods
in fact, knowingly purchasing stolen goods is also the same
that said, TT and Morris are filthy creatures
though in this case possession is 10 tenths of the law rather than 9....
have fun scummy thieves
We're having loads of fun.
In fact, Istvaan has decided to inlay the entire hull of the Wyvern with Ivory and Blood Diamonds.
AFK, seizuring from you sig.
Glorious, isn't it?  ------
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Willford Bremly
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:39:00 -
[520]
*twitches*
»\(¦_o)/»
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Willford Bremly
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:43:00 -
[521]
Originally by: Janice Forge possession of stolen goods is prosecuted in the same manner as the actual theft of stolen goods
Don't shop on ebay then.
»\(¦_o)/»
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Lakut
EmpiresMod Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I live for this kind of thing, especially the threads and the drama, the ISK doesn't even matter anymore. 
In that case: can I have stuff? :puppyeyes:
Apart from that: Great lulz generated by both TT and Morris. You made my day and cost me quite some time I should've spent learning for the Computer Networks exam tomorrow. I demand reparations.  ----------
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Icy Z
Superstars from Outer Space
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Willford Bremly
Originally by: NTRabbit
Originally by: Janice Forge possession of stolen goods is prosecuted in the same manner as the actual theft of stolen goods
in fact, knowingly purchasing stolen goods is also the same
that said, TT and Morris are filthy creatures
though in this case possession is 10 tenths of the law rather than 9....
have fun scummy thieves
We're having loads of fun.
In fact, Istvaan has decided to inlay the entire hull of the Wyvern with Ivory and Blood Diamonds.
AFK, seizuring from you sig.
Meh likey flashy siggys 
Howya likey mine..
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NTRabbit
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:48:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Willford Bremly
Originally by: Janice Forge possession of stolen goods is prosecuted in the same manner as the actual theft of stolen goods
Don't shop on ebay then.
The last time I shopped on ebay I apparently turned into a 19 year old girl from Uruguay who had dozens of digital cameras to sell in the US at rock bottom prices. What an exciting day that was! ------
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Corwain Wow, that's quite a loss mail. Is GHSC still in the black for this operation after that?
You tell me. (old screenshot, much richer now)
229,815,056,229.56
There's a 3/1000 chance you'd have repeat-numbers like this... You didn't even bother using separate source images when photoshop'ing? ---
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Wyverns of Dionysus Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:54:00 -
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He doesn't have to bother, thousands of suckers will fall for it anyway 
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Nekumi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:57:00 -
[527]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk He doesn't have to bother, thousands of suckers will fall for it anyway 
~gives away a mothership for the price of a carrier
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:58:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Corwain Wow, that's quite a loss mail. Is GHSC still in the black for this operation after that?
You tell me. (old screenshot, much richer now)
229,815,056,229.56
There's a 3/1000 chance you'd have repeat-numbers like this... You didn't even bother using separate source images when photoshop'ing?
You forget there's also a 99/100 chance that if I were taking the time to photoshop a fake wallet screenshot, I'd address just such a strange set of number repetitions, by taking a second screenshot with some money withdrawn to paste in new numbers. I'm quite careful that way :D
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.04.03 17:00:00 -
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Locked
User request.
Mitnal, Community Representative
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