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Taisia Zaytseva
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:25:00 -
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Tahrmal Nalthkh wrote:Rescue Report: 116.02.09 02:30 boxerboynine Kirkle 11 rescued 116.02.10 13:47 Sheldblaster 5 rescued, Chip Aztec 35 rescued As mentioned earlier, DSTON Development has instituted new guidelines for confiscation work. In addition to the newly christened DSS Plowshare that I will be piloting, we have also christened the DSS Pacifist that will be piloted by Ston. Both vessels are not yet fully fitted for service but will be undergoing fitting and shake down service before fully deployed. I enjoyed the privilege of helping Mr. Momaki give a tour of our Kaap facility to two fine, courteous and intelligent pilots. I say this because to differ in opinion is not a reason for a complete lack of decorum. Recent posts by Taisia Zaytseva have been tasteless, crude and far more appropriate for the "locker room" rather than this forum. We welcome her criticism and even accusations, but use some intelligence and appropriateness in your language, please. Prove her ability to express yourself with decorum or I will be blocking her posts from view. If you act like a turd, fool, I'm going to talk to you like one. Go choke on a bowlfull of dicks. As for tours, of course everything seems in order to outsiders, because you've brainwashed everyone. You can stop pleasuring yourself moaning about rescuing slaves, the game is up, we all see it. You're nothing but two bit slaver trash. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
110
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:37:00 -
[1382] - Quote
Taisia Zaytseva wrote:Tahrmal Nalthkh wrote:Rescue Report: 116.02.09 02:30 boxerboynine Kirkle 11 rescued 116.02.10 13:47 Sheldblaster 5 rescued, Chip Aztec 35 rescued As mentioned earlier, DSTON Development has instituted new guidelines for confiscation work. In addition to the newly christened DSS Plowshare that I will be piloting, we have also christened the DSS Pacifist that will be piloted by Ston. Both vessels are not yet fully fitted for service but will be undergoing fitting and shake down service before fully deployed. I enjoyed the privilege of helping Mr. Momaki give a tour of our Kaap facility to two fine, courteous and intelligent pilots. I say this because to differ in opinion is not a reason for a complete lack of decorum. Recent posts by Taisia Zaytseva have been tasteless, crude and far more appropriate for the "locker room" rather than this forum. We welcome her criticism and even accusations, but use some intelligence and appropriateness in your language, please. Prove her ability to express yourself with decorum or I will be blocking her posts from view. If you act like a turd, fool, I'm going to talk to you like one. Go choke on a bowlfull of dicks. As for tours, of course everything seems in order to outsiders, because you've brainwashed everyone. You can stop pleasuring yourself moaning about rescuing slaves, the game is up, we all see it. You're nothing but two bit slaver trash. See what? The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
97
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:46:00 -
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Disciples of Ston, I have questions:
Do you ever confiscate contraband psychotropics such as capsuleer combat boosters or baseliner recreational drugs?
If so, what do you do with them?
If not, why not?
I look forward to your reply.
Thukker Outrider, Frigateer and Booster-Smuggler. |

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
1332
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:58:00 -
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Karynn Denton wrote:Disciples of Ston, I have questions:
Do you ever confiscate contraband psychotropics such as capsuleer combat boosters or baseliner recreational drugs?
If so, what do you do with them?
If not, why not?
I look forward to your reply.
Thanks for your question. Yes we confiscate these items when we happen upon them. Our policy with weapons, ammunition and drugs is to store them indefinitely. The reason for this is because it is our policy to never profit from such confiscations. All the items we confiscate are verifiable over time. We maintain separate storage facilities for all confiscated weapons, ammo, and drugs. We do not trash or recycle them again so that a permanent record may be maintained and verified and so that base materials can not be sold by us. Should you wish to inspect a confiscation facility please feel free to contact me and we can arrange a time to do this. Once an inspection is made, your outside record could be verified by a repeat visit should you chose to do so. In other words, items in our confiscation facility will always be there. More may be added, but nothing will be removed.
Please feel free to ask for any clarification. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
110
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Posted - 2014.02.10 17:52:00 -
[1385] - Quote
Ston Momaki wrote:Karynn Denton wrote:Disciples of Ston, I have questions:
Do you ever confiscate contraband psychotropics such as capsuleer combat boosters or baseliner recreational drugs?
If so, what do you do with them?
If not, why not?
I look forward to your reply.
Thanks for your question. Yes we confiscate these items when we happen upon them. Our policy with weapons, ammunition and drugs is to store them indefinitely. The reason for this is because it is our policy to never profit from such confiscations. All the items we confiscate are verifiable over time. We maintain separate storage facilities for all confiscated weapons, ammo, and drugs. We do not trash or recycle them again so that a permanent record may be maintained and verified and so that base materials can not be sold by us. Should you wish to inspect a confiscation facility please feel free to contact me and we can arrange a time to do this. Once an inspection is made, your outside record could be verified by a repeat visit should you chose to do so. In other words, items in our confiscation facility will always be there. More may be added, but nothing will be removed. Please feel free to ask for any clarification. Short answer: No we won't sell them to you.  The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
97
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:03:00 -
[1386] - Quote
Ston Momaki wrote: Thanks for your question. Yes we confiscate these items when we happen upon them. Our policy with weapons, ammunition and drugs is to store them indefinitely. The reason for this is because it is our policy to never profit from such confiscations. All the items we confiscate are verifiable over time. We maintain separate storage facilities for all confiscated weapons, ammo, and drugs. We do not trash or recycle them again so that a permanent record may be maintained and verified and so that base materials can not be sold by us. Should you wish to inspect a confiscation facility please feel free to contact me and we can arrange a time to do this. Once an inspection is made, your outside record could be verified by a repeat visit should you chose to do so. In other words, items in our confiscation facility will always be there. More may be added, but nothing will be removed.
Please feel free to ask for any clarification.
Thanks for the prompt reply, Pilot Momaki.
So, you have a stockpile of drugs that are doing nothing but taking up space in your storage facilities? I can't help but think that all that space could be used for food, beds or medical supplies.
Then there is the issue of legality; I'm sure your rescue crews have better things to do than pay fines to Customs.
And I completely understand that you would not want to besmirch your good name by selling them onto a third party for a profit.
Pilot Momaki, would you be interested in a professional service to assist with the disposal of these substances? I can assure you that you would not be charged for such a service and it may possibly open the doors to discuss your security issues (I've just noticed a little hostility towards your operations recently).
Thukker Outrider, Frigateer and Booster-Smuggler. |

Taisia Zaytseva
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.02.10 18:57:00 -
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So, the slavers also maintain a full arsenal? This just gets better and better. You're kidnapping people, brainwashing them and you've just admitted you have guns for all. Hot diggety damn, you want to come write propaganda for us? Everyone is still convinced you're just some kind soul. |

Gosakumori Noh
Seraglio Hastatus Hagia Sophia
468
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:06:00 -
[1388] - Quote
Hmmm. The Cartel has disavowed (direct) knowledge of DSTON's work, and there are piles of narcotics lying around... snake people!
Snake people with guns!
I've recently been wondering why the snake people didn't get more love. I was just looking in all the wrong places! Well, now, this is certainly one way to settle a worm hole. |

Taisia Zaytseva
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:10:00 -
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The GIA disavows knowledge of pretty much everything. I mean, to this day, they maintain that BOB "slipped in the shower." So, yeah, why would you believe the Cartel? "Oh, those drug smuggling slavers, yeah, they aren't us."
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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
110
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:15:00 -
[1390] - Quote
Taisia Zaytseva wrote:So, the slavers also maintain a full arsenal? This just gets better and better. You're kidnapping people, brainwashing them and you've just admitted you have guns for all. Hot diggety damn, you want to come write propaganda for us? Everyone is still convinced you're just some kind soul. To be fair, everyone with half a brain has a full arsenal. "Offer one hand, arm the other" and all that. Just because they run a charity doesn't mean they have to be completely powerless to defend themselves. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
1332
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:20:00 -
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Karynn Denton wrote:[ So, you have a stockpile of drugs that are doing nothing but taking up space in your storage facilities? I can't help but think that all that space could be used for food, beds or medical supplies.
How did I know this might be the response from one who self identifies as a booster smuggler. Drug confiscations are a "tiny" portion of our confiscation work. Confiscations are kept completely separate from our Matriculations Centers. They are in separate stations. The weapons, ammo, and drugs we confiscate will never be used again. Not even the materials they are made of will be used again. They are in perpetual storage, so no, you can't have them, Ms. Denton. That said we are happy to arrange verification through a third party acceptable to both of us if you so desire. We are quite happy with our security arrangements in all our station environments, but thanks for the offer.
Rescue Report:
116.02.10 18:56 Zordor Rock 13 people, DARR Max 21 former slaves, 2 slavers
Two deathcans with 36 survivors were found on this patrol. All are OK. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace |

Gosakumori Noh
Seraglio Hastatus Hagia Sophia
469
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:25:00 -
[1392] - Quote
Taisia Zaytseva wrote:The GIA disavows knowledge of pretty much everything. I mean, to this day, they maintain that BOB "slipped in the shower." So, yeah, why would you believe the Cartel? "Oh, those drug smuggling slavers, yeah, they aren't us."
Leopold is the kindest most sincere and compassionate... well, no. I do however believe that the Cartel likes its plausible deniability. And the snake people really do handle the drugs. The Cartel provides those nicely curved buttocks from which to inhale those drugs.
Moreover, Bob did slip in the shower. He pointed the nozzle at the wall to get out of the stream while soaping his back, and then there was some kind of explosion, and he slid abruptly to one side. I saw it all on my... what's that? We don't record the showers? Of course we... oh. Fine.
I wonder when the water bill in Feythabolis comes due. History's inexorable march marches on. |

Taisia Zaytseva
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:40:00 -
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"Oh, sure, come inspect our facility." Side note: one of my favorite holos of all time. |

Scherezad
Perkone Caldari State
1653
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:56:00 -
[1394] - Quote
Taisia Zaytseva wrote:"Oh, sure, come inspect our facility." Side note: one of my favorite holos of all time. I'm curious, miss. What would constitute sufficient evidence to convince you? |

Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
102
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:02:00 -
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Rescue Report:
116.02.10 21:35 Concendo 10 rescued
This rescue was conducted while holding a shake down cruise in the newly commissioned DSS Plowshare. I am quite pleased with the ship and we have received dispensation to use it for rescue work as well as confiscation work. It is significantly more nimble than the Assist though with a slightly smaller passenger capacity.
Now to address the raging that has been going on... Some time ago we raised some ire regarding our work with groups of Kameiras. One particular pilot was very vocal in opposition and criticism. This opposition extended to evemail communications that are not within the rules to disclose here. I can say that we were told that we would be opposed with great vigor and by as many means as possible. This individual is now conspicuous by absence and silence. It is our conjecture that this pilot is the one behind the rage. The level of anger expressed in certain ((communications)) was off the scale and seemed to indicate some psychological imbalance and perhaps a serious disorder such as PTSD. Ston forwarded some of these to me and our counseling staff has analyzed them. We urge this person to take advantage of counseling services available likely free of charge and to get the help you need. These angry projections reflect a tortured spirit in need of healing. We hope you find it and encourage you to seek it.
If you just need to talk; we're here.
Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Provost, DSTON Academic Learning Center Rescue Pilot |

Gosakumori Noh
Seraglio Hastatus Hagia Sophia
473
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:23:00 -
[1396] - Quote
Ah, now I believe I see the outline of the plot. DSTON did not "rescue" a group of "doomed" kameiras, but instead abducted them before the vessel assigned to their recovery could make necessary intake arrangements. This behavior is consistent with the less-than-benevolent tactics employed against miners in earlier days.
The bee appears correct.
How many other "rescued" individuals were in fact going to be picked up by the parties responsible for their circumstances, but were instead abducted in the middle of operations by an interloping band of Serpentis lackeys? |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
886

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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:48:00 -
[1397] - Quote
I have personally given orders to inspect and if necessary replace Fluid router stations 3/P[redacted for security reasons] and H/J[redacted for security reasons] as there seem to have been some transfer problems affecting several parts of the ongoing discussion. Our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused.
((I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic, in character and above all civil!)) ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Nauplius
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
97
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Posted - 2014.02.11 00:44:00 -
[1398] - Quote
Re-Enslavement Report: 2014-02-09 03:41 12 Slaves 2014-02-10 01:36 18 Slaves
Every person, everywhere, shall glorify God.
Most shall glorify God only in their destruction, whether that be in this life or the next.
But the 30 Slaves listed above have another path open to them GÇö redemption through service to God's Chosen, the Amarr Empire. To start them on their journey, they were chained, collared, stuffed full of Vitoc, and sold back into slavery. Amen. Amarr Victor. |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
112
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:01:00 -
[1399] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Re-Enslavement Report: 2014-02-09 03:41 12 Slaves 2014-02-10 01:36 18 Slaves
Every person, everywhere, shall glorify God.
Most shall glorify God only in their destruction, whether that be in this life or the next.
But the 30 Slaves listed above have another path open to them GÇö redemption through service to God's Chosen, the Amarr Empire. To start them on their journey, they were chained, collared, stuffed full of Vitoc, and sold back into slavery. Amen. Amarr Victor. Glory to me! Amen. Claudia Victor. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
381
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:04:00 -
[1400] - Quote
If a slave owner abandons their slaves on a busy stargate, is that the same as freeing slaves?
If these slaves are disowned by their masters, does that no longer make them slaves?
If these slaves are abandoned in space outside of the Amarr Empire, would enslavers be breaking Amarrian law by capturing people outside of their boundaries?
If these slaves are no longer property of their previous master, what right would anyone (according to Amarrian law) have to resell them on the market?
How can you sell what is not yours?
I'd like to hear your answers as it sounds to me like you're a simple thief and a criminal of Amarr, Nauplius. While the same could be said of DSTON, I imagine you have more to lose by a tarnishing of your standings with the Empire.
-Eran |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
112
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:14:00 -
[1401] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:If a slave owner abandons their slaves on a busy stargate, is that the same as freeing slaves?
If these slaves are disowned by their masters, does that no longer make them slaves?
If these slaves are abandoned in space outside of the Amarr Empire, would enslavers be breaking Amarrian law by capturing people outside of their boundaries?
If these slaves are no longer property of their previous master, what right would anyone (according to Amarrian law) have to resell them on the market?
If you don't own these slaves, how can you sell what is not yours?
I'd like to hear your answers as it sounds to me like you're a simple thief and a criminal of Amarr, Nauplius. While the same could be said of DSTON, I imagine you have more to lose by a tarnishing of your standings with the Empire.
-Eran I don't think Naups views mortal laws as an obstacle he need worry about. If he is fulfilling his religious tenants I don't think much else matters to him.
Glory to me. Amen. Claudia Victor. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
104
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:35:00 -
[1402] - Quote
Rescue Report:
116.02.11 01:09 (name withheld) (blue) 50 rescued
This death can was abandoned (blue). These rescues are less tense in that we do not have to escape quickly. I am back on board the Assist until the new ship undergoes some more fitting. DSTON Development has instructed us to consolidate our Center management around regional clusters. Manwe will administrate the centers in the Zoohen to Diaderi patrol area. Ston will manage the Centers around the Niarja/Kaap corridor and I will be managing the Republic and Mandate centers. We will be doing jurisdiction transfers as time allows until the consolidation is complete. Part of this restructuring is to simplify answering inquiries regarding accountability for our operations. Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Provost, DSTON Academic Learning Center Rescue Pilot |

Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
381
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:37:00 -
[1403] - Quote
Perhaps, but the Nauplius I remember from my time in the 24th was a law-abiding Amarrian citizen. If he is breaking Amarrian laws then he might want to reconsider his course of action and methods of spreading the faith...before hes excommunicated and compared to Odelya d'Hanguest.
-Eran |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
112
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:53:00 -
[1404] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:Perhaps, but the Nauplius I remember from my time in the 24th was a law-abiding Amarrian citizen. If he is breaking Amarrian laws then he might want to reconsider his course of action and methods of spreading the faith...before hes excommunicated and compared to Odelya d'Hanguest.
-Eran
People change. Maybe he committed something he considers a grave sin, and is trying to work himself back into his God's favor via taking slaves. Or maybe he's just gone crazy in a sadistic sort of way from being in space to long. We may never know.
Glory to me. Amen. Claudia Victor. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
381
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:59:00 -
[1405] - Quote
I disagree. However, I'm sure Nauplius can answer for himself.
-Eran |

Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
112
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Posted - 2014.02.11 03:07:00 -
[1406] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:I disagree. However, I'm sure Nauplius can answer for himself.
-Eran It's all idle speculation on my part, I make no attempts to truly understand why Nauppie is the way he is. Besides, it would make the cluster that much duller if he wasn't himself. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |

Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
98
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:34:00 -
[1407] - Quote
Ston Momaki wrote: How did I know this might be the response from one who self identifies as a booster smuggler. Drug confiscations are a "tiny" portion of our confiscation work. Confiscations are kept completely separate from our Matriculations Centers. They are in separate stations. The weapons, ammo, and drugs we confiscate will never be used again. Not even the materials they are made of will be used again. They are in perpetual storage, so no, you can't have them, Ms. Denton. That said we are happy to arrange verification through a third party acceptable to both of us if you so desire. We are quite happy with our security arrangements in all our station environments, but thanks for the offer.
As you wish, Pilot Momaki.
One would think, that with several hostile parties taking an interest in your work lately, that you'd be more receptive to offers of assistance.
Do take care out there.
Thukker Outrider, Frigateer and Booster-Smuggler. |

Nauplius
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
98
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:09:00 -
[1408] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:If a slave owner abandons their slaves on a busy stargate, is that the same as freeing slaves?
If these slaves are disowned by their masters, does that no longer make them slaves?
If these slaves are abandoned in space outside of the Amarr Empire, would enslavers be breaking Amarrian law by capturing people outside of their boundaries?
If these slaves are no longer property of their previous master, what right would anyone (according to Amarrian law) have to resell them on the market?
If you don't own these slaves, how can you sell what is not yours?
I'd like to hear your answers as it sounds to me like you're a simple thief and a criminal of Amarr, Nauplius. While the same could be said of DSTON, I imagine you have more to lose by a tarnishing of your standings with the Empire.
-Eran
Key Points:
- I sell slaves not to Empyreans but to those most qualified to adjudicate edge cases of ownership and manumission GÇö the Amarr Civil Service, which maintains standing buy orders for slaves throughout Amarr space.
- Attempted execution of slaves by jettisoning them into space is not a legal instrument of manumission. That would require papers, lawyers, witnesses, and so forth. The slaves thus retain the status of slaves.
- Were it not for the existence of the Disciples of Ston, I would not interfere with those who choose to execute slaves by jettisoning them into space. Such slaves would go and meet God and face the Judgement, where they would have their fair chance. Since the Disciples of Ston do exist, however, I am obligated to intervene GÇö for all slaves ripped from the bosom of holy Amarr and taught the blasphemies of liberal religion and freedom will be denied entry into Paradise and will glorify God in their destruction.
- The "Amarr Bloc" when it existed as such always considered CONCORD rules and such orthogonal to Amarrianness. A pilot, therefore, could have poor security status or this or that "flag" without being considered a criminal in the eyes of other Amarr loyalist pilots.
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
1486
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Posted - 2014.02.11 16:55:00 -
[1409] - Quote
Nauplius you (and others like you) are completely insane and the reason why we Minmatar can never rest in our vigilence against your aggression. You're a zealot, sociopath, xenophobe and murderer. I have (slightly) more respect for Diana Kim in that she only wants to destroy one nation, while you want to destroy all who oppose your maniacal imperial vision and your vile, twisted religion.
I will continue replenishing the bounty on your miserable head to reward those who destroy your ships and clones. I look forward to the day when I'm again a member of the TLF so that I can hunt you myself and put you down like the filthy, rabid beast you are. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
1333
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:05:00 -
[1410] - Quote
Rescue Report:
116.02.11 18:56 17 people
This rescue was made while returning from business in the Mandate and Republic together with Dr. Nalthkh. I was there to complete transfer documents handing administrative duties over to him for all our Centers in the Republic and the Mandate. Dr. Nalthkh is our most gifted administrator, so he will have charge of our largest centers that reside in this areas. The exception is Egbinger. We have a very small center there that is independent and wants to be left that way. They are an interesting group consisting of a small band of former slaves, castaway militants, one scientist and a former corporate VIP. They are happy the way they are and have asked to be left alone. Alone, they will be left. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace |
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