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h zebra
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Posted - 2008.05.27 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Wrathamon Starfury
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Donald Truman
Originally by: Digital Anarchist If you just want to raise prices, do so openly.
This. I find it quite off-putting to see CCP portraying this in terms of "we're just simplifying things and getting in line with industry standards", with zero acknowledgment that this constitutes a subscription fee increase.
Unless raising prices without saying that's what you're doing is the "industry standard" they're talking about.
From CCP's point of view, this may not consitute a price rise. They don't work in dollars. They may in fact just be ending what has come to constitute a huge discount to US customers.
AFAIK, I'm still paying 15 Euros per month as a subscriber. For a long time, US players were paying considerably less than me. Now that the subsidised dollar price has been equalised, why the outrage?
You do know that the US players make up over 60% of the paying player base right?
60% are you having a laugh mate?
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Delphi Disra
Dawn of Fire Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.28 05:38:00 -
[722]
this is bad buisness ccp :(
/signed
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Qwyp
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Posted - 2008.05.28 07:20:00 -
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Please keep the 30 and 90 day gtc options as well. I can understand if the price increase is needed, but the convenience of having 30 and 90 day options is so nice. I myself use the 30 day gtc's using isk since at the moment thats about the only way I can pay for the moment.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.28 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Wrathamon Starfury You do know that the US players make up over 60% of the paying player base right?
You <expleteve deleted> lying <expletive deleted> misinformation-spreading <expletieve deleted> no-good <bleepitybleep> !
Country% of subscribers United States37.06% United Kingdom13,92% Germany8,05% Russia5,54% Canada4.84% Australia 3.04% Netherlands2,30% Sweden2,28% Denmark2,24% Poland0,84% France2,47% Finland1,05% Norway1,43% Hungary0,41% Ukraine0,90% Austria0,81% Belgium0,75% Romania0,67% Brazil0,31% Spain0,59% Others 10,50%
There. Freaking 37%.
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h zebra
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Posted - 2008.05.28 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Wrathamon Starfury You do know that the US players make up over 60% of the paying player base right?
You <expleteve deleted> lying <expletive deleted> misinformation-spreading <expletieve deleted> no-good <bleepitybleep> !
Country% of subscribers United States37.06% United Kingdom13,92% Germany8,05% Russia5,54% Canada4.84% Australia 3.04% Netherlands2,30% Sweden2,28% Denmark2,24% Poland0,84% France2,47% Finland1,05% Norway1,43% Hungary0,41% Ukraine0,90% Austria0,81% Belgium0,75% Romania0,67% Brazil0,31% Spain0,59% Others 10,50%
There. Freaking 37%.
being part of teh 13.9% of uk subscribers, our fees have gone up 18% in the past 10 months. we now pay over 50% more than us players for the same year (131.40 euros is ú105, $131.40 is ú67) let us pay in our own currencey, like you let the us players as this will stop currency fluxations for us.
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xena zena
Catalyst Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.28 09:55:00 -
[726]
We need more info from ccp on this!
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Lo3d3R
MAFIA
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Posted - 2008.05.28 10:54:00 -
[727]
35% price increase via some vague mumbling acting like its no bigdeal post my foot!!!!!! ___________________
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Hasak Rain
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Posted - 2008.05.28 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolae Varius You know what bugs me? That CCP has to introduce the 60 day GTC to try to veil a price increase. I wish they just came out and said: Yep, dollar blows ass. So gonna raise sum prices for all that beer we drink. And respectively increased the 30, 60 and 90 day GTC prices. Instead of OOO LOOKIE! NEW GTCs! But then you cant blame em. Blatantly increasing the price would make ccp look like money hoggers. And yes. This is less blatant.
I am not a CCP Fanboy by any means and I don't agree with this move either.
However, in all honesty, if they had come out and said "Hello..due top the weak dollar in the US, we are raising prices on our GTCs" the whine thread would be just as long if not longer than this one.
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DrefsabZN
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:25:00 -
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The main points seam to be people are happy paying more money but they are very unhappy with less options for GTC and being blatantly lied to by CCP saying they are doing it for x reason but they clearly are not. I bet resellers are mighty upset as well at this.
It would be nice to see CCP actually respond to this given the fact they have upset a large number of their customers their total silence on the issue just comes across as if they don't care about the customer base.
As for the issues of FW and ambulation, FW im looking forward to (it will add something for those not in 0.0 mega corps or have hundreds of people to play with), but ambulation is something that really isn't wanted, sure if you can do it without an effort go for it but it seams its taking some serious dev time.
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Xavier Linx
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Posted - 2008.05.28 14:04:00 -
[730]
Originally by: DrefsabZN The main points seam to be people are happy paying more money but they are very unhappy with less options for GTC and being blatantly lied to by CCP saying they are doing it for x reason but they clearly are not. I bet resellers are mighty upset as well at this.
Agreed
Originally by: DrefsabZN It would be nice to see CCP actually respond to this given the fact they have upset a large number of their customers their total silence on the issue just comes across as if they don't care about the customer base.
Not really true. The answer from ccp can be found here. Even though I admin that it's not many answers in there... |
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h zebra
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Posted - 2008.05.28 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP RyanD [ Although our pricing does not mirror the marketshare leader at this time, it does reflect the internal assumptions we are basing our business plan on, and our price is something we are comfortable with at this time.
well we all know what assumtions are dont we? the mother of all fxxx up's
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.28 17:24:00 -
[732]
This belongs back on page 1
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StinkFinger
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.28 20:09:00 -
[733]
Originally by: ArmyOfMe This belongs back on page 1
^^
Originally by: Karanth That's like sitting on your hand till it goes numb, so it's like a stranger. It's not as satisfying, and I'LL know the difference.
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Smantha Dering
Syntek Technology
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Posted - 2008.05.28 20:26:00 -
[734]
I'm not goint to quit, but code sellers won't be getting my isk anymore from me or my alts.
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Lyra Sechrin
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Posted - 2008.05.29 00:23:00 -
[735]
bump for the devs who can't be assed to type.
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raeky
freelancers inc Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.05.29 04:21:00 -
[736]
Originally by: ArmyOfMe This belongs back on page 1
QFT http://raeky.com/ |
h zebra
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:20:00 -
[737]
so no ccp reply to can we have 30's and 90 day time codes back??
shame dont think its dropping from page 1 anytime soon
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Una D
Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2008.05.29 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Una D on 29/05/2008 13:10:59 Oh I just found out that even by using pay by cash you get stuck with paying in €... Very nice. Now I need to use a proxy to pay decen prices. I really do think that it's time to send a mail to the EC. I'm sure they will be very interested in the differing prices (after all if they were about to gank apple and iTunes why not CCP).
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Alenara
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Posted - 2008.05.29 17:39:00 -
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taking away our precious "i wanna just play 30 days and insert next long skill" and our "bang boom bang, 90 days full of pvp" gtcs just sux!
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DrefsabZN
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:31:00 -
[740]
I missed CCP RyanD's responses. However could I please ask Mr RyanD, if you prefer people to use the direct billing method do you have any plans to actually fix the direct billing system for people in the UK.
If your unsure what I mean, Im referring to the fact your direct billing system does not allow for billing of the most common UK debit card types. Meaning people who don't want to pay on their credit card like me, or people who don't have credit card but do have the main UK debit card types can't use direct billing.
almost 15% of your player base are from the uk, the vast bulk of these players will have a Switch/Solo/Maestro card. Id gladly pay using these methods, GTC's were my only other option as I don't want to use my Mastercard and I don't want to use a never heard of before service like paybycash.
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h zebra
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Posted - 2008.05.30 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lyra Sechrin bump for the devs who can't be assed to type.
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Morphisat
Rakeriku Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.05.30 09:32:00 -
[742]
Originally by: Lyra Sechrin bump for the devs who can't be assed to type.
What do you expect them to type ?
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CCP RyanD
C C P
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Posted - 2008.05.30 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: DrefsabZN do you have any plans to actually fix the direct billing system for people in the UK.
Yes. This is a more complex problem than it may appear due to some taxation issues (CCP has a UK office). I know that we are committed to supporting the primary payment methods in our major markets, and the UK is no exception. I don't have a timeline for this, but I am certain it is given a fairly high priority.
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h zebra
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Posted - 2008.05.30 10:42:00 -
[744]
Originally by: CCP RyanD
Originally by: DrefsabZN do you have any plans to actually fix the direct billing system for people in the UK.
Yes. This is a more complex problem than it may appear due to some taxation issues (CCP has a UK office). I know that we are committed to supporting the primary payment methods in our major markets, and the UK is no exception. I don't have a timeline for this, but I am certain it is given a fairly high priority.
does this mean that we can pay teh ccp uk office in pounds and not have the issue we are having at the moment with the euro inflation?. uk yearly sub cost has risen 18% in the last 10 months
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RedLion
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:02:00 -
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Actually it's the pound which inflates :P (and it's not only relative, it is actually the pound going down).
Thus english people getting less for their quids, but in the end every monthly subscription should be matched up against euro.
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DrefsabZN
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP RyanD
Yes. This is a more complex problem than it may appear due to some taxation issues (CCP has a UK office). I know that we are committed to supporting the primary payment methods in our major markets, and the UK is no exception. I don't have a timeline for this, but I am certain it is given a fairly high priority.
This is great news then for me (and im sure many other's). I always found it strange that payment with cards like visa debit were available but the other methods were not available. Though I certainly don't know the complexity of the rules and regulations such things. I hope we see this soon as it will then remove my need for GTC's as a method of paying for my two accounts :)
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h zebra
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: RedLion Actually it's the pound which inflates :P (and it's not only relative, it is actually the pound going down).
Thus english people getting less for their quids, but in the end every monthly subscription should be matched up against euro.
the pound has held steady against teh US$. but as teh euro has become stronger it has inflated against both. i do agree that if we are being made to pay in euros everyone should also be made to pay in euros. instead of being given over a 50% discount
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Una D
Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: RedLion Actually it's the pound which inflates :P (and it's not only relative, it is actually the pound going down).
Thus english people getting less for their quids, but in the end every monthly subscription should be matched up against euro.
But than it should be same for everyone. Pick a currency and stick with it. Sure the EU peeps will have to pay VAT but that is our own problem and a lot smaller than 50% higher prices in US$
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Mael Duakal
Minds Of Space Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 13:10:00 -
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I think that CCP hopes that this will die off... but i would really like to know why it is necessary to kill the 30 day GTC. And no, i don't particulary care for the price rice, but taking away the flexibility is ****ing me off.
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iloni atoriandra
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:34:00 -
[750]
Well its nice to know that after 5 years of being live they are actually looking at a way for UK players to pay using their debit cards.
And no your not obligated to charge all European players in Euros thats a lie and anyone who has any clue about banking, economics, contract law etc etc can tell you that so dont assume everyone is an idiot.
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