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Tal Nok DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.05.23 17:37:00 - [31] Originally by: Matrix Skye By using your logic gatecamping should also be considered an exploit. Using your logic you being allowed to post is an exploit. As for OP, this has been beaten to death. It sucks, but there are ways around which I stated on the first page in my only constructive post besides this one. Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice.
admiral ahkbar	Posted - 2008.05.23 17:51:00 - [32] Originally by: Tregaron jump----> mwd ----> cloak ----> decloak ----> insta warp well done. if some people didn't know how to do it yet, you just taught them too. this all started with some emo nerd getting ****ed off and telling the rest of EVE what 1 guy was doing to him in meticulous detail.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.23 18:21:00 - [33] Originally by: Matrix Skye There should always be risk for everyone in low sec, not just those passing through gate camps. As it stands you could camp a gate and profit from it with 0 risk if you're not a moron. By using your logic gatecamping should also be considered an exploit. Uhm... that IS the risk. The risk of "Am I a moron, or am I not a moron. I think I'm not a moron, but if I AM a moron, I would certainly be wrong about that... I hope this works out like I planned" Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Cpt 0bvious Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.23 18:46:00 - [34] It is as fine as gatecamps are. Pointless QQ. And I laughed at Ahkbar's qq.
Joachim Kato Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2008.05.23 19:13:00 - [35] Originally by: ceyriot Originally by: Joachim Kato Originally by: joshmorris USing this tactic you can travel through low sec with 0 risk if your not a moron. That just makes low sec no risk .... EVE is about taking risks to get better rewards. Imo this should be classed as an exploit. This trick is old and it's impossible to tackle anything even if you decloak it inna ceptor, cuz it gonna instawarp aniways. In 0.0 situations bubble might help, but you need to decloak ir real fast, cuz any mwd + cloaking target gonna be outside the bubble in no time. Well, no...Broadsword + MWD + Approach location of interceptor + friendly inties decloaking = Dead interceptor. Was referring to normal bubble from ordinary dictor. With heavy dictor it's easier, but the whole thing was about losec and it's kinda fawked up to have no risk.
xenodia Mortis Incarnatus	Posted - 2008.05.23 19:44:00 - [36] Originally by: Tregaron well get ccp to give me a mod to stop you cloaking then i'm fine. coz atm there's no way to stop the cloak warp trick unless you place cans around the gate which then ends the target making a petition for you using an exploit. WTS: Cheese This signature space for rent
Stele Toque	Posted - 2008.05.23 20:14:00 - [37] Originally by: Tregaron i don't mind peeps getting away but everyone using the same tactic is boring. what, you mean like ... gate camping, webbing, scramming, popping, podding ... ad naseum.
Sionide THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.05.23 21:46:00 - [38] Yeah, the cloak trick is really lame. I am sure CCP knows about it, and chooses not to do anything about it. In their book it isn't an exploit. So really not much you can do about it :( === In Eve, never bring a knife to a knife fight.
Stele Toque	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:26:00 - [39] wow .. someone sure is butt hurt about the fact that they no longer have the advantage.
Majuan Shuo Vigilante inc.	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:35:00 - [40] Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 23/05/2008 17:23:33 Originally by: joshmorris USing this tactic you can travel through low sec with 0 risk if your not a moron. That just makes low sec no risk .... EVE is about taking risks to get better rewards. Imo this should be classed as an exploit. There should always be risk for everyone in low sec, not just those passing through gate camps. As it stands you could camp a gate and profit from it with 0 risk if you're not a moron. By using your logic gatecamping should also be considered an exploit. ok see this guy? **** this guy. moving on... q-"WELL WHAT ABOUT THE PIRATE CODE!?" a-"well actually... they're more like guidelines.."
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:52:00 - [41] idk why the op is complaining, plain and simple, if gate camping isnt considered an exploit (and i dont think it should be, despite the fact that ive been camped like 5 times, its a way of making money, just like everything else in the game), then this cloak warp trick should not be classed as an exploit either, if one goes, then so must the other and when you were complaining about how everyone is using the same tactic: well i dont mind getting gate camped, but everyone is using the same tactic, its getting boring, lol
Matrix Skye	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Majuan Shuo Originally by: Matrix Skye There should always be risk for everyone in low sec, not just those passing through gate camps. As it stands you could camp a gate and profit from it with 0 risk if you're not a moron. By using your logic gatecamping should also be considered an exploit. ok see this guy? ** this guy. moving on... Feel better now? Great way to present an argument! Is there anyone that disagrees with what I say that can communicate it in a clear and mature way other than just giving me an enlightening "** you!"?
LoveKebab coracao ardente Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:34:00 - [43] Originally by: Tregaron well yesterday was doing my normal low sec camping when 3x battleships roll through 1 by 1 each 1 of them did cloak warp trick actually it was me 3 times in 3 following systems and u tried to stop me by convoing me when i was going to warp but well, u didnt get me so i won ;o
Rawr Cristina Naqam Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.05.24 02:50:00 - [44] Old trick, suprised it hasn't got more attention already If done right, you're pretty much invulnerable in low-sec. Even if you could instalock, you wouldn't catch it due to module lag. Them messing up aside, the only way you can really catch them is a lucky bump. You get under 5 seconds to do that. Yes, I use it all the time. Yes, It needs a nerf. ...
Rach NiKunni	Posted - 2008.05.24 07:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Matrix Skye As opposed to what? camp gate----> kill----> camp gate some more----> kill some more You don't think that gets boring? Your victims are adapting. Why can't you? pWND! Pirates moaning because people are failing to throw themselves at their feet... What we have here is someone who is slowly learning that there is a difference between gate camping and PVP.
Rach NiKunni	Posted - 2008.05.24 07:43:00 - [46] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Yes, I use it all the time. Yes, It needs a nerf. Hell no! It needs to be put in the tutorial!
Qutan	Posted - 2008.05.24 08:46:00 - [47] Lets put player skill back into the game the more ways round a gate camp the better, save the campers from themselves so they can then play the game and not just sit there being bored . SAVE THE CAMPERS THEY NEED OUR HELP Not a pirate I just love the
Calvin Firenze Thanos and Killjoy Productions	Posted - 2008.05.24 10:13:00 - [48] tbh the cloak warp trick sounds almost valid. One "trick" that **es me off to no end is something freighter pilots do when jumping into lowsec. 1. Jump 2. log out before decloaking 3. log back in 4. log off again midwarp 5. profit The 2nd logoff takes them off grid from the gate. According to CCP, this is a valid game mechanic. I've petitioned it as an exploit a few times. The catch is, if you can kill a freighter in about 35 seconds with your gatecamp, you're good to go for a freighter kill. CCP says 1 minute before ship disappears, but according to my log and friends' logs, the average time from scramble to ship disappearance was 35 seconds. Sorry, I'm going off topic, but the freighter thing **es me off when I think about it. Good luck on getting anything changed with the cloak + warp trick.
Sang Jin Avanti Industries	Posted - 2008.05.24 13:40:00 - [49] Originally by: admiral ahkbar Originally by: Tregaron jump----> mwd ----> cloak ----> decloak ----> insta warp well done. if some people didn't know how to do it yet, you just taught them too. this all started with some emo nerd getting ****ed off and telling the rest of EVE what 1 guy was doing to him in meticulous detail. Shhhhh.. how else are us carebares supposed to learn this stuff??!!
Philipius Maximus Corporation 1	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:26:00 - [50] A lot of people posting solutions in this thread obviously have no experience with this issue. You canot beat this EVER unless the cloaker is Lagged Desynched Generally stupid You can place cans around the gate to try to trip him up but this is an exploit and almost always ineffective. You can also try ramming him in an interceptor, but that task nearly always ends in failure. This is not a matter of changing tactics or adapting. Give gate campers a module or any real method of defeating this tactic to make this trickery "fair." Otherwise, it's simply a way to make yourself invulnerable whilst travelling gate to gate in low sec, no matter what you're flying. I forgot, no amount of scan res will help you.
Matrix Skye	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:54:00 - [51] Edited by: Matrix Skye on 24/05/2008 15:55:01 Originally by: Philipius Maximus Give gate campers a module or any real method of defeating this tactic to make this trickery "fair." Uhm, sitting by a spawn point, scratching your ass while players spawn so you can kill them isn't exactly "fair", now is it? Eve is about REWARDS through RISK. Anyone but morons can camp a gate. But don't expect the rewards to be great either. It's how Eve is supposed to be, low risk = low rewards. You want better rewards? Scan down a mission runner or find miners or ratters in 0.0. Stop being lazy and go earn your rewards FFS.
eve warrior Filthy Scum	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:48:00 - [52] Originally by: LoveKebab Edited by: LoveKebab on 23/05/2008 23:39:02 Originally by: Tregaron well yesterday was doing my normal low sec camping when 3x battleships roll through 1 by 1 each 1 of them did cloak warp trick actually it was me 3 times in 3 following systems and u tried to stop me by convoing me when i was going to warp but well, u didnt get me so i won ;o add new rule when some1 jump to lowsec: 1% chance of ur ship travel to NOL next time u use a gate, 1% chance of being hotdroped by RA, 0.0001% of chance of ur mum comming to ur room and telling u "go to sleep" and turning off the power... come on, stop whining, deal with it - get a trip to 0.0, use dictors - u wont have to worry about targets warping away if u are smart enough ;o or are u afraid of losing ur precious implants lol Lmao. if 0.0 is so hardcore why do you need to use this tacktic to get though a little low sec space? And i was looking at info but clicked start convo instead ew
Tal Nok DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:53:00 - [53] Originally by: Matrix Skye Is there anyone that disagrees with what I say that can communicate it in a clear and mature way other than just giving me an enlightening "** you!"? I did but you couldn't comprehend a single letter that was typed so I gave up. Didn't we settle this a few weeks/months back in Aunnenen local? P.S. I heart Phil Originally by:** CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY. Need sacrifice.
Matrix Skye	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:58:00 - [54] Edited by: Matrix Skye on 24/05/2008 17:00:46 Originally by: Tal Nok Originally by: Matrix Skye Is there anyone that disagrees with what I say that can communicate it in a clear and mature way other than just giving me an enlightening "** you!"? I did but you couldn't comprehend a single letter that was typed so I gave up. Didn't we settle this a few weeks/months back in Aunnenen local? P.S. I heart Phil I believe you addressed my post with: Originally by:** Tal Nok ^^ noob poster above me ^^ Not exactly much to comprehend there is there? .
Commander Killah	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:05:00 - [55] Just fill your nightmare's med slots with sensor boosters except one for a warp disruptor, and shoot them down with ur Amarr navy mega pulse lasers that'd be epic...
Tregaron Filthy Scum	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:31:00 - [56] Originally by: Commander Killah Just fill your nightmare's med slots with sensor boosters except one for a warp disruptor, and shoot them down with ur Amarr navy mega pulse lasers that'd be epic... what nightmare and it had civilian pulse lasers with damage mod of 10x so shhhhhh
Joachim Kato Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2008.05.25 00:40:00 - [57] Originally by: Philipius Maximus A lot of people posting solutions in this thread obviously have no experience with this issue. You canot beat this EVER unless the cloaker is Lagged Desynched Generally stupid You can place cans around the gate to try to trip him up but this is an exploit and almost always ineffective. You can also try ramming him in an interceptor, but that task nearly always ends in failure. This is not a matter of changing tactics or adapting. Give gate campers a module or any real method of defeating this tactic to make this trickery "fair." Otherwise, it's simply a way to make yourself invulnerable whilst travelling gate to gate in low sec, no matter what you're flying. I forgot, no amount of scan res will help you. This. /emote awaits for some smart (or actually many of them) to jump outta some ahole and start talkin about many ways of countering that mwd + cloak trick, without even having seen nothing more than NPC vessels onna overview. /emote drops some cans onna gate, cuz some "pro" without a clue said it helps.
Knuckle Shuffle	Posted - 2008.05.25 08:49:00 - [58] why even bother posting this crap
wu han The Water Margin.	Posted - 2008.05.25 16:09:00 - [59] Originally by: Matrix Skye ................ Your victims are adapting. Why can't you? This. Had to be quoted. EVE-O prides itself on being hardcore with dedicated players pushing the boundaries, adapt or die in my view.
Sphynx Stormlord Snuff inc	Posted - 2008.05.25 20:30:00 - [60] Would a smartbomb setup be effective to decloak them? On a fast(ish) ship, to get close to their position.

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