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Evanda Char
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Now it will be only Electus Matari that will be involved in the process, and we know how that is going to go. More likely though, the Minmatar electoral process will be better off without your presence however deeply flawed it may be.
Actually, I'd say that about of half of EM doesn't support Midular. Myself, I don't support anyone as such, I just dispute the allegations that Midular is either Ammatar or traitor. Much was achieved against great odds, she just didn't scream "death to the Amarr" before all of it.
Blunt force trauma makes for a good general. It doesn't make for a good system of government.
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Kaylana Syi
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.08 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Evanda Char
Blunt force trauma makes for a good general. It doesn't make for a good system of government.
It has worked well for the Amarr for so many years.
Team Minmatar
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Gamblor Matar
Slag Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.08 19:40:00 -
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The Brutor know what is best for the Minmatar people. We know the time for talking is over. Good riddance to the Ammatar appeaser Midular.
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Shira d'Radonis
The Amarr Mission
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Posted - 2008.06.08 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik
Do you know why she "expelled" Shakor? Do you know even wheter she expelled Shakor? The news report says there are reports - nothing is certain. And if she did - she does have the authority to do so if Shakor commited crimes. Do you know whether there were any? No. Did Midular have the chance to actually explain herself on that session? No, she had to be escorted out of Parliament because of unruly members of parliament. Now it's weekend, and parliament work is resting.
There are two options for us - for us capsuleers as well for the people on the streets:
Either, you jump to conclusions - for example, Midular had full rights to expel Shakor, because he did something criminal! Or maybe, Midular had no rights to expel him, because he didn't do anything! Maybe also, Midular wants to seize power, and is just faking the call for re-elections!
Or you can say: We don't know. There's barely anything in the reports that says what actually happened. We'll have to wait until we get further information, before we can react to that.
Note that neither approach lends itself to actually affecting anything. We can't do anything in either case. Posting enraged on IGS about how the conclusions you jumped to are The Truth ("believe me, I must know!") is just marginally more useful than going to the streets and protesting against (no idea what against, but let's protest).
I'll wait until I know further details, and let legal government processes work.
Until then, Shira - jump.
Alright. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that she does have the authority to expel Shakor. I think it seems fairly clear that she did expell him because it's been a few days now and we've yet to hear a denial from the government on this. Not only that, but Shakor was being escorted out of the session.
The point is: Can you really frame her actions as being an attempt to defuse the confrontation rather than ratchet up the intensity? Would a person who is simply following the natural course of the law take such provocative action rather than let things cool down a little bit first? This is Midular sending a message.
Unfortunately, it will likely have the opposite effect from what she intends. Rather then frighten the opposition back into line, this can only serve to provoke them further (as we have seen from people's response here). I'm certainly not going to argue that the hardliners have either the intellectual or moral high ground. I fully recognize that they are the problem. But if her handling of the situation only emboldens them, then she has become the problem.
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ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
"Our histories, one day, will absolve me..."
- Shira d'Radonis
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Vladimir Titov
Knights of the Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:46:00 -
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It seems Midular has disappeared!
http://myeve.eve-online.com/mb/news.asp?nid=2090
At this stage I would not be surprised if she surfaced in Ammatar or Amarrian space. After all, she is no longer of any use to her handlers in her current position.
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Shira d'Radonis
The Amarr Mission
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:57:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 09/06/2008 22:00:14
I would like to state for the record that I welcome the new government! Huzzah!
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ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
"Our histories, one day, will absolve me..."
- Shira d'Radonis
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Redbad
TSL Wolfpack
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Posted - 2008.06.09 22:08:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 09/06/2008 22:00:14
I would like to state for the record that I welcome the new government! Huzzah!
I dont think Vladimir Titov meant that Midular will be your new Emperor.
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Nachshon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.09 22:35:00 -
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The political situation is very tense right now. We are on the verge of exploding.
I will be sleeping in my pod tonight. I suggest that all of you do the same.
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Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
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Shira d'Radonis
The Amarr Mission
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Posted - 2008.06.09 22:46:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Redbad
I dont think Vladimir Titov meant that Midular will be your new Emperor.
I live in the Republic. I'm persona non grata in the Empire (at least for now). I was welcoming the new Republic government.
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ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
"Our histories, one day, will absolve me..."
- Shira d'Radonis
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