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Shira d'Radonis
The Amarr Mission
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Posted - 2008.06.06 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 06/06/2008 01:28:59
http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2079&tid=4
I suppose it's been a long time coming now. Midular's policies have clearly been very unpopular and divisive. I just hope that this change in government will bring renewed unity to the Minmatar people. I do fear for the continued peace between the Amarr and the Minmatar though. Given what has transpired recently, a shift in foreign policy will likely mean war. But I suppose the Republic has for some time now been moving in its own direction in spite of her efforts. A collision of civilizations seems unavoidable now. My God have mercy on us all...
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ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
"Our histories, one day, will absolve me..."
- Shira d'Radonis
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Daro Con
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Posted - 2008.06.06 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Daro Con on 06/06/2008 01:33:24
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Shakor, a long-time rival of the prime minister, is considered a primary candidate to replace her in a general election. The capsuleer is known for being the most vocal hawk in the Minmatar Republic, demanding a "zero-tolerance" policy of slavery towards Amarr. !
I have nothing more to say.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.06 01:47:00 -
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Becq Starforged's words cannot be heard over the sounds of celebration in the background...
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.06 02:17:00 -
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Freedom is the most valued gift one can give to his people.
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Vladimir Titov
Knights of the Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2008.06.06 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Vladimir Titov on 06/06/2008 02:49:43
Will UK reconsider its self-imposed exile now that Midular will no longer be at the helm?
Oh and a proper link to the news Midular Ousted
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Kudon Astraisx
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.06.06 02:52:00 -
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The 17th (and I expect the majority of EM) will follow the duly-chosen policies of the Republic, no matter what individual leads Parliament.
Given the recent difficulties that Midular has faced, it would have been surprising for the vote to fail. I, and my fellow pilots in the 17th, await our new instructions with anticipation.
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Hae t'Redd
Ishukone Black Watch
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Posted - 2008.06.06 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Hae t''Redd on 06/06/2008 03:23:44
I am somewhat saddened by this. Midular kept peace with the Amarr, when hotheads would have plunged the Republic into war. Unfortunately, the hotheads won out this time, even though she was doing the right thing by her people and opening talks with the Ammatar and the Empire. I only hope that the Minmatar people try to pursue peaceful negotiation and elect a leader as wise as Midular.
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Chungito
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.06 04:14:00 -
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Now you will remember why you fear the dark.
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Micia
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.06 05:12:00 -
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The Republic is finally growing some stones, eh? |
Nachshon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.06 05:20:00 -
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YES!
I have long questioned Karin Midular's strength to lead. Now her resignation seems likely. I await stonger leadership in the future.
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Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
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Shern
Delictum 23216
San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chungito
Now you will remember why you fear the dark.
Are some tribals *proud* to be savages ? Do you *want* the justify the fear that the amarr have of us ? You actually *want* to be the monsters they say we are ?
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Makta Gulat
Boosh Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:13:00 -
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In my humble opinion, this is more than a good thing. We must never forgive the Amarr for what they have done, and still to this day do to our people.
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Makta Gulat
Boosh Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shern
Are some tribals *proud* to be savages ? Do you *want* the justify the fear that the amarr have of us ? You actually *want* to be the monsters they say we are ?
God save the matari people. I pray every day for cooler, wiser heads in the north to pull you back from the brink.
The time for diplomacy is over. They are the ones playing the victims here, they are the oppressors, they are the ones who enslave our people ship them across the verse in shackles. I weep for them when I see this. We are not savages. The Amarrs ways are outdated and crude. They are the savages. Not I.
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Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:39:00 -
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Midular is not "gone" yet. I know that reading is a difficult task for those who'd rather see all of our people enslaved instead of only a third, so let me highlight it for you: Although largely symbolic
I'm looking forward to hear Midular's position.
But come what may, I will follow my Republic.
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Pezzle
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Chungito
Now you will remember why you fear the dark.
Are you a moron?
Nevermind.
As predicted the matar will usher in the violence. We shall see if the level of destruction required falls short of plunging this cluster into a new time of darkness.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kudon Astraisx
The 17th (and I expect the majority of EM) will follow the duly-chosen policies of the Republic, no matter what individual leads Parliament.
And so the tribals admit they are blind followers, I applaud you.
Midular was the greatest asset of the tribal authority. From here, matters for them will only get worse.
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Pezzle
Originally by: Chungito
Now you will remember why you fear the dark.
Are you a moron?
Nevermind.
As predicted the matar will usher in the violence. We shall see if the level of destruction required falls short of plunging this cluster into a new time of darkness.
No a moron would have to ask if someone else is a moron.
Lets see, slave driving race, still slave driving.... Slave driving race, 'reclaiming' minmatar citizens still.... Slave trading race pulling a psychotic commander out of the bleaks.... yes because a war to free enslaved minmatar people is totally our fault for having the audacity to want to be free and to free our brothers and sisters.
CVA used to have a little bit more dignity... pity.
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:13:00 -
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As arkady already said, Midular is not ousted yet. A vote of no confidence is not removal from power. Its formal notice that your parliament no longer believes you are fit to rule. It remains to be seen if Midular resigns or if the parliament is forced to remove her or if the minmatar even wish to retain parliamentary systems. I wait to see how this falls out.
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Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:24:00 -
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Hmm interesting development, lets see how Midular responds to this first.
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Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:28:00 -
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For the sake of all Matar, I hope that, if Midular is to be replaced, that the new government does not attempt to incite hostilities against the Amarr. I bet they're just itching for a reason to launch a merciless crusade against your people.
It's a shame you're horrible at picking allies.
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Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
For the sake of all Matar, I hope that, if Midular is to be replaced, that the new government does not attempt to incite hostilities against the Amarr. I bet they're just itching for a reason to launch a merciless crusade against your people.
It's a shame you're horrible at picking allies.
I believe the minmatar people will do fine without the need to implant behaviour control chips in their heads.
Also i doubt that Sanshas Nation and its lackeys is the ally they need.
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Myyona
Ataraxia Pharmacies
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:36:00 -
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I fear this was a turn for the worse for the Matari people.
Midular did have her faults but keeping peace and progress to the Republic was not one of them. If the hot-heads and warmongers get it their way I fear the days of an united Republic will be over.
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Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.06.06 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
For the sake of all Matar, I hope that, if Midular is to be replaced, that the new government does not attempt to incite hostilities against the Amarr. I bet they're just itching for a reason to launch a merciless crusade against your people.
It's a shame you're horrible at picking allies.
I believe the minmatar people will do fine without the need to implant behaviour control chips in their heads.
Also i doubt that Sanshas Nation and its lackeys is the ally they need.
Such narrowminded prejudice from your kind is exactly why we're no longer assisting you against the Amarr. We risked countless ships in skirmishes with Empire loyalists in defence of our so-called allies within the Republic, yet what did we get to show for it? Nothing but baseless contempt and hostility, and not even so much as a thankyou.
It's no wonder the Republic is so divided. They have trouble even accepting their own kind.
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Dionisius
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
For the sake of all Matar, I hope that, if Midular is to be replaced, that the new government does not attempt to incite hostilities against the Amarr. I bet they're just itching for a reason to launch a merciless crusade against your people.
It's a shame you're horrible at picking allies.
I believe the minmatar people will do fine without the need to implant behaviour control chips in their heads.
Also i doubt that Sanshas Nation and its lackeys is the ally they need.
Such narrowminded prejudice from your kind is exactly why we're no longer assisting you against the Amarr. We risked countless ships in skirmishes with Empire loyalists in defence of our so-called allies within the Republic, yet what did we get to show for it? Nothing but baseless contempt and hostility, and not even so much as a thankyou.
It's no wonder the Republic is so divided. They have trouble even accepting their own kind.
I have been in Stain and in True Power Corporation stations Miss Cristina, and i have seen what happens to the ones you " help " with your chips.
I believe that the Minmatar people haven't been fighting one kind of slavery for all these centuries just to throw themselves in to another one.
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Major Death
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:13:00 -
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Don't be surprised if Midular is assassinated after leaving office.
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Redbad
TSL Wolfpack
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
Originally by: Kudon Astraisx
The 17th (and I expect the majority of EM) will follow the duly-chosen policies of the Republic, no matter what individual leads Parliament.
And so the tribals admit they are blind followers, I applaud you.
Midular was the greatest asset of the tribal authority. From here, matters for them will only get worse.
I shall not deny some of the Clans are deeply divided on certain subjects, so followers? I doubt it. You will know that tribal decisions still outweigh any Republic decisions.
The Republic is a project of the majority of the Tribes to create a political body outside our tribal bonds for more structured diplomatic relations with our friends and even our enemies; and a succesfull, however demanding, project it has been for the years that lie behind us. The Republic was always there when Tribal Honour and Bonds were not enough to ***** some hard nuts; It was there to carry a stern message to all who would stand in the way of Freedom of our people; in words or in force. Rapid growth, success and ofcourse time has understandably blurred its focus for some time.
Now the time has come for the Tribes to test the Republic once again to regain its focus. A Republic that will once again forcibly stand for the Freedom for our People.
I agree with you that matters seem to get worse, but how much worse, will depend on the understanding of Imperial decisionmakers that few options are left for our People, due to the recent events outside the Republic.
I know the Empire and the Mandate have faith in their God, I can only respect that, but the decision to choose the path is for man to take. Choose wisely.
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Rathera D'Sarth
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:49:00 -
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*Rathera sighs and leans back in her chair*
However unfortunate for peace this may be, it was rather inevitable. More than ever, events of the past few weeks have shown how little actual control Prime Minister Midular had over her own forces. I would also imagine the fact the Chamberlain of the Amarr Empire making a public statement regarding the apparent resurfacing of the Starkmanir tribe, several days before Minister Midular had done so, probably caused more than a few of her remaining staunch supporters to question her.
As likely as it is that the new Republic Prime Minister is to be someone with a decidedly more aggressive outlook on current matters, the sad truth is that Prime Minister Midular can no longer be considered a viable leader, and someone capable of actually leading should replace her.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.06 09:59:00 -
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It is not a secret that I am a supporter of the current government, including our Ray of Matar's stance of peace. I believe that without the remarkable capability that the Republic has demonstrated for moderation and co-operation ever since its beginning, we would have all been lost years ago, even before most of us in capsules today were born.
I have, so far, always believed that despite the vocal pro-war propaganda among capsuleers and root-level populations elsewhere, our government has seen this wisdom. It is extremely disappointing and alarming to find out this is not so. That the Defiants and Ushra'Khan would throw away all we have to die gloriously in a war where they risk not only their own freedom but that of everyone - that is nothing new. If the leaders of the four tribes would do the same - I have no words to describe how that makes me feel.
That said, I believe in the Republic more than I believe in the government. Whatever happens, the tribes that are united must remain united. That, more than the question of when to fight, is the one thing that separates my stance from that of the terrorists'.
I remain loyal.
May the ancestors watch over us all.
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Redbad
TSL Wolfpack
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Posted - 2008.06.06 10:20:00 -
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Your words of wisdom are as always an enrichment for our Republic, lady Rhiannon.
Moderation and co-operation have been fruitfull indeed. The Republic is, despite the hard political endeavours it faced, a strong entity and vehicle for our Tribes. Karin Midular did well, she has laid down an example of how the Republic can be run in days where trust in our friends and competitors is obvious.
However, it is outside factors that calls for a fundamental stance where moderation and co-operation can only be fruitfull with mutual trust.
The question the Tribes, the Republic and all the other empires have to answer the coming days is whether that spark of mutual trust is still there.
I fear the worst,
RB
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Taradis
The Imperial Assassins
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Posted - 2008.06.06 10:25:00 -
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*Taradis takes a sip of his tea as he switches off the Holo News Channel* With Prime Minister Midular the Republic has been at relative peace with the Empire and now it seems that the Republic will prove to the rest of New Eden what Primitive Savages they are. I have both Matari and Gallente friends, I feel for them in these dark times with the unrest in the State and Federation and the show of force by Republic and Thukker tribe ships in Yulai. I would hope that cooler heads will prevail in this day and age but I may be wrong about that. But I for one will not let the unlightened savages of the Minmatar Republic threaten the Empire. I hear the beat of the tribal war drums in my head as I lay awake at nights stareing at the ceiling and pondering to myself what the future now holds. Those Savages that are a part of this ouster of Prime Minister Midular have all but sealed their fates they will tremble at the site of the golden fleet approaching. I just hope that my Matari and Gallente friends do not get caught up in this.
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