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Haulin Gneiss babymuncho Corp 24	Posted - 2012.03.12 07:03:00 - [1] - Quote cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments.
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 505	Posted - 2012.03.12 07:04:00 - [2] - Quote PvP?
Aiwha 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 189	Posted - 2012.03.12 07:22:00 - [3] - Quote Carriers. Regards, LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter
Sarmatiko 556	Posted - 2012.03.12 07:42:00 - [4] - Quote From the first post it's obvious that you have no idea what WH is. You also missed or failed incursions. You didn't tried lvl 5 missions completion with bombers/or anything. You didnt tried FW missions. "Can fly most ships under carrier" - really makes me laught. You cant actually fly all with 20 mil sp noob character, you only managed to sneak in the ships cargo bay with your capsule. You can jettison your cheap stuff, I dont want it.
Roime Shiva Furnace 273	Posted - 2012.03.12 07:54:00 - [5] - Quote It's sad what the world has come to. Sounds like you want your mother to come and build your sandcastles for you, and bring new, shiny toys. Oh and at 20mil SP you can barely fly some subcaps from one race decently.
baltec1 780	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:00:00 - [6] - Quote I'm well over 50 mil SP and still only sratching the surface. Perhaps you should do what I have done for the past year and master a ship, and by master I mean learning everything about it and how to use it not just train up everything for it to V.
Azure Moonlight Atomic Core Industries and Science 11	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:03:00 - [7] - Quote ONE character with 20mil SP? Pathetic. Then again, more carebear content would be always nice. For your attention! Market order modification fee (anti-botting, more interesting trading) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78351
Takashi Kaeda Perkone Caldari State 17	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:05:00 - [8] - Quote You have literally experienced less than 5% of EVE. bai
Garmon Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 121	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:08:00 - [9] - Quote What makes eve different to other MMOs is that there's so many different possibilities for your end game, it's only limited by your determination By the sounds of things 1. You've lived in highsec all your life, got bored 2. Joined a random 0.0 alliance and didn't like the serious business structure that they had For 1, I think the main purpose highsec has is just to get you used to the game, apart from casual players, a lot of people get tired of highsec eventually, but like I said highsec is great for casual players that just wants to relax after getting home from work And for 2, I understand where you're coming from with this because it's just a game, but for people in nullsec alliances, it's more than just a game, they've worked hard and for years for what they have achieved, it's considered acceptable for them to take things very seriously for these reasons What I'd suggest is, focus on making friends if you haven't already, get your self and your friends excited about the prospect about pvping in low sec / 0.0, maybe even form your own corp with them, and have fun! You could also try some solo pvp out, if you can afford it, learning through pvping in assault frigates will teach you a lot, the ships them selves are very strong now too since crucible 1.1, if you can't afford it, flying frigates will teach you the same lessons There's quite a few options available for you, small AF gangs, t1 cruiser gangs All it takes is some effort, initiative, and most of all, determination, and you're golden Edit : If you tell me where you're specialized in, I could give a few ideas on what you could fly Check out GARMONATION 9 right now! Check out our site for PVP videos, guides and audio commentaries: www.EVEisEASY.com
Momoyo Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension 4	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:21:00 - [10] - Quote Yeh i was gonna say Im at 30 mill SP and while I can SIT in most sub-cap ships that does not equate flying them well at all. If your looking for PVE content you chose the wrong game. 99% of the PVE content is only good when your running it with other people and is painfully boring by yourself. Even then theres more PVE content than what your talking about. They mentioned LV5 missions which can be interesting as they are only in low sec. Theres pirate missions in null which are another beast considering their location though you may want to start another toon for those as they can be very bad for your standing with the empires. Theres also the epic arcs. Theres 6 besides the SOE ones i believe the 4 factions and Gurista and Angel. WH space has a lot to offer but is VERY boring by yourself. Nothing worse than being trapped in a wh for weeks on end. I swear you get cabin fever in there. Also you may not know but there are Landmarks in eve if your the type thats like to travel and see new locations. Theres a website but i cant seem to find it atm.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2354	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:24:00 - [11] - Quote I'm at 21m SP and I can count the number of ships this character can fly well on one hand. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2354	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:28:00 - [12] - Quote scimitar, hurricane, uh... yeah. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 38	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:39:00 - [13] - Quote If you play EVE like your typical MMORPG yes you will indeed get bored after around 6-12 months. If you play EVE like the sandbox no end-game masterpiece that it is, then you will never enjoy another MMORPG again. I suggest joining a corp with some chill people, it will make EVE far more enjoyable. You don't have to PvP even though I highly suggest it, you can spend all of your time doing PvE. Doing L4 missions is hardly scratching the surface of PvE in EVE. EVE is about player interaction and conflict. Other MMORPGs are about running scripted quests and dungeons. PIck one.
Florestan Bronstein United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 443	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:51:00 - [14] - Quote http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 1039	Posted - 2012.03.12 08:56:00 - [15] - Quote Calling bullshit. I've got 28M SP in spaceship command alone and I am barely able to fly most subcaps. Hell, still can't fly Black Ops with Liang. -_- -Liang Ed: Also, this should help you some: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Rek Seven Probe Patrol Project Wildfire 214	Posted - 2012.03.12 09:28:00 - [16] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. Everything you just listed there is a single player scripted activity, yet you are playing an MMO... Perhaps you need to reevaluate your goals.
TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 85	Posted - 2012.03.12 09:41:00 - [17] - Quote 70mil sp char confirming that the game died when I hit 20mil sp, I just keep training because I heard there's a cookie if I get everything to 5
Mike Whiite Progressive State 30	Posted - 2012.03.12 09:41:00 - [18] - Quote Intresting, I've 23 million SP and I can't fly ****, on the otherhand what I can fly I fly rather well. but concerning PVE content, I find probbing site's a rather nice and intresting way to do PvE, especialy when you do them in area's that hold more risk.
TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 85	Posted - 2012.03.12 09:48:00 - [19] - Quote Florestan Bronstein wrote: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png This is worryingly accurate -¼-¼
Obsidian Dagger Nitrus Nine 27	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:01:00 - [20] - Quote I'm homing in on 60 million SP, and still have not anywhere near mastered everything subcap. Or even most. I can get in a lot of HULLS to be sure, but saying you can fly most everything subcap at 20mill SP is just... Daft. I think I have more than 20 mill in just ONE racial hull tree at this point, with a LOT of work still to do on everything. Focus less on choosing hulls, train your support and survivability skills, and spend more than a couple hours doing any one activity before you give up on it! Also, play in groups, it's an MMO after all. Fleets = fun even if all you do it sit around at a safespot and talk about exotic dancers and the Damsel.
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 200	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:03:00 - [21] - Quote Double.. Grrr
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 200	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:05:00 - [22] - Quote Yeah 20mil sp really isn't that much in all honesty.... So you have tons left to do so there is not much to worry about. :) EDIT: Then again, you wont like the costs involved in the 90+ mil clones.
Jose Black Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:31:00 - [23] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: Lvl 4s. mastered You could try running them in groups, for example helping people that did not yet master them. Or you could try running them using cruisers or assault frigates. You're asking why you would want to do that? For fun of course. It's a game after all and thats why fun has to be your first priority. Haulin Gneiss wrote: Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Why not choose to be a less overbearing CEO yourself then? Haulin Gneiss wrote: Can fly most ships under carrier. check. As mentioned multiple times above: you can board them, but actual efficient flying is another story. Haulin Gneiss wrote: SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. It's a sandbox. You have to built your castles yourself. Be creative. Myself I'd hate if they added features and toys every other week. Edit: Confirming for my 80+ million SP char EVE died 4 times already. He has 7 lives though and that's why the story goes on.
Bubanni SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353 132	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:37:00 - [24] - Quote Garmon wrote: What makes eve different to other MMOs is that there's so many different possibilities for your end game, it's only limited by your determination By the sounds of things 1. You've lived in highsec all your life, got bored 2. Joined a random 0.0 alliance and didn't like the serious business structure that they had For 1, I think the main purpose highsec has is just to get you used to the game, apart from casual players, a lot of people get tired of highsec eventually, but like I said highsec is great for casual players that just wants to relax after getting home from work And for 2, I understand where you're coming from with this because it's just a game, but for people in nullsec alliances, it's more than just a game, they've worked hard and for years for what they have achieved, it's considered acceptable for them to take things very seriously for these reasons What I'd suggest is, focus on making friends if you haven't already, get your self and your friends excited about the prospect about pvping in low sec / 0.0, maybe even form your own corp with them, and have fun! You could also try some solo pvp out, if you can afford it, learning through pvping in assault frigates will teach you a lot, the ships them selves are very strong now too since crucible 1.1, if you can't afford it, flying frigates will teach you the same lessons There's quite a few options available for you, small AF gangs, t1 cruiser gangs All it takes is some effort, initiative, and most of all, determination, and you're golden Edit : If you tell me where you're specialized in, I could give a few ideas on what you could fly Garmon is right on this one :) PvP and friends is what makes eve great for long term players like me also lol at OP for saying he can fly everything under carriers :P im at 104mil sp now, and I can finally fly "almost" everything (still dont have black ops 5 or marauders 5, im saving those for last lol)
Samillian Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers. 99	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:39:00 - [25] - Quote Go, now. This game clearly isn't for you since you seem to have no intention of making even the minimal effort required to find something interesting to do.
JitaPriceChecker2 State War Academy Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:39:00 - [26] - Quote People obvious troll is obvious. Although 5/10 for responses he got.
Vaffel Junior Resilience. Pandemic Legion 90	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:44:00 - [27] - Quote Take years to be well skilled now... yes.. but... What will the future of eve bring... ? New chars start with 20m sp ? No need to train skills longer than to lvl4. ? Dumbification of EVE online has started..
JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 200	Posted - 2012.03.12 10:46:00 - [28] - Quote Bubanni wrote: also lol at OP for saying he can fly everything under carriers :P im at 104mil sp now, and I can finally fly "almost" everything (still dont have black ops 5 or marauders 5, im saving those for last lol) I have a strong feeling he might also only be trained into a single race, and not all ships of all races under cap.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1027	Posted - 2012.03.12 11:00:00 - [29] - Quote I have over 60M SP, but I still can't fly half the sub-caps in the game. I'm half decent at logistics and EWAR, and I can do you a good deal on datacores. I can't believe that you've run out of things "worth training" at 20M SP. Liang Nuren wrote: Ed: Also, this should help you some: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5426	Posted - 2012.03.12 11:07:00 - [30] - Quote TheBlueMonkey wrote: Florestan Bronstein wrote: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png This is worryingly accurate -¼-¼ Nah. I'm at 80M SP, and I don't luvs my Nyx. n fact, to continue the trend of GÇ£I'm at X and I can't flyGÇªGÇ¥, I'm at 80M SP and I can just barely fly all sub-BS ships competently. More specifically, I can fly all ships that don't require you to train a battleship skill (except the Rorqual) and fit all the pieces of equipment that could conceivably go on those ships. At 20M SP, I think I had just completed the full set of T2 cruisers for one race, and maybe the Orca as a topper. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Tallian Saotome Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 445	Posted - 2012.03.12 11:18:00 - [31] - Quote Giving this one 8/10, for all the serious responses. And on the off chance its for real, have a tourist guide: http://evetravel.wordpress.com/ Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Lugaedh Bluestar Enterprises The Craftsmen 0	Posted - 2012.03.12 11:39:00 - [32] - Quote I beg your pardon. 20 million SPs and you say you can FLY most subcaps ships in eve? Gunnery, engineering, mechanics are some 20 million alone. And for subcap ships to FLY them all it is MORE then 20 million again. So, to justify your funny claim, you should have proclaimed 40 or even 50 million SPs. Have a nice day, troll elsewhere Luga
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 1219	Posted - 2012.03.12 12:08:00 - [33] - Quote Ive just passed 60 mil (for the second time) and I still have a crapload of stuff I have yet to do. I have dabbled in everything but have yet to actually do a lot of it. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!!
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 427	Posted - 2012.03.12 12:10:00 - [34] - Quote 45 million SP here I can fly about 5 ships but i fly them like a boss. I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Xpaulusx V I R I I Ineluctable. 24	Posted - 2012.03.12 12:16:00 - [35] - Quote 5/10
thecunning mrfox Darwin's response 13	Posted - 2012.03.12 12:25:00 - [36] - Quote Florestan Bronstein wrote: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ItTlNpBRXOA/TcjZWeareOI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cBLzMQJ0lKs/s1600/evefun1.png Brilliant +1 internet cookies to you good sir.
Ira Infernus Praetorium Illegitimus The.Alliance 7	Posted - 2012.03.12 13:15:00 - [37] - Quote 20mil SP and you can fly most racial ships under cap? -I don't think so, unless you only skilled to like l3 on average. at 20 mil SP I was only half way through mastering the amarr battleship and laser systems. at 45 mil SP I am currently well (no where near perfectly) skilled for amarr and minmatar subcaps, including t2. My missile skills are severely lacking, and my drone skills dont extend beyond Hammer II's. In short, your statement is about as false as it gets.
Wacktopia Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 208	Posted - 2012.03.12 13:52:00 - [38] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. Only 20mil SP - are you one of the new Japanese guys? Vote Alekseyev Karrde for CSM7. -áhttp://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=433 Get War Decs, Sov, Low Sec that works.-á
Terminal Insanity Convex Enterprises Unprovoked Aggression 259	Posted - 2012.03.12 13:55:00 - [39] - Quote Eve was never really about the PvE content. Its only there as a side-show and as a way to make money to fund PvP. Eve is about the PvP.
Admiral Rufus Doctrine. FEARLESS. 20	Posted - 2012.03.12 14:09:00 - [40] - Quote Its taken you 3 years to get 20 mil sp? wtf have you been doing, you should have around 20-22mil within 12 months?!
Ptraci StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound. 409	Posted - 2012.03.12 14:25:00 - [41] - Quote 20 million SP is absolutely nothing. If you are bored with EVE, can I have your stuff? Never mind, you probably don't have anything good anyway...
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 363	Posted - 2012.03.12 14:32:00 - [42] - Quote I have 22 million SP and all I've ever done is kill newbies and carebears in highsec and I'm totally happy with my game experience. Also this reminds me I totally need to go set up an armor drake.
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 46	Posted - 2012.03.12 14:36:00 - [43] - Quote baltec1 wrote: I'm well over 50 mil SP and still only sratching the surface. You really don't wanna see what I'm scratching...
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 1225	Posted - 2012.03.12 14:38:00 - [44] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and completely failed, forced back into high sec.. Can board most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Everything> now that the basics are out of the way I have no idea where to begin. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people some help figuring out what we want to do. it's been three years but nobody has offered to tell me what I'm supposed to do next or how to level up from here. Now...insert forum hounds comments. FYP When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point. Also, I can kill you with my brain.
Arrs Grazznic Poena Executive Solutions 9	Posted - 2012.03.12 15:32:00 - [45] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: Now...insert forum hounds comments. These forums seriously need a down vote button. ~130m SP here and there are a bunch of subcap ships I can't fly or barely use and a whole bunch of industrial game related activities that I've not worked through. EVE is purely what you make of it. Sounds like you've hit the limited scope of your imagination.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 408	Posted - 2012.03.12 15:46:00 - [46] - Quote I have nearly 5x your SP and I still haven't scratched the surface. Maybe.. I don't know... try leaving high-sec? Troll 2/10 for making me respond Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
PotatoOverdose Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline. 48	Posted - 2012.03.12 15:56:00 - [47] - Quote Be a man. Go to low or null and shoot another man.
Dragon Outlaw Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 43	Posted - 2012.03.12 16:03:00 - [48] - Quote Before quitting, try RvB...you might get surprised.
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 432	Posted - 2012.03.12 16:06:00 - [49] - Quote Arrs Grazznic wrote: Sounds like you've hit the limited scope of your imagination. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec
highonpop Void.Tech BLACK-MARK 24	Posted - 2012.03.12 16:11:00 - [50] - Quote Im approaching 30M and I still feel like a noob Maybe you should venture out of that 5-system High sec pocket you call home and you will realize that 20M skill points is PEANUTS in this game
knobber Jobbler Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn 53	Posted - 2012.03.12 16:11:00 - [51] - Quote Confirmed at 20 m sp you can't fly very much. Honestly op, go try pvp or industry, join a new corp.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3407	Posted - 2012.03.12 16:27:00 - [52] - Quote 110 mil point character here, still cant fly everything under cap competently. Evidence is in my montly ship loss in lvl 4s. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 366	Posted - 2012.03.12 17:13:00 - [53] - Quote Damn! Is that why my main sits in a station in Lustrevik all day while I post smarta$$ remarks in the forum?? Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold.
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 427	Posted - 2012.03.12 17:27:00 - [54] - Quote Ira Infernus wrote: 20mil SP and you can fly most racial ships under cap? -I don't think so, unless you only skilled to like l3 on average. at 20 mil SP I was only half way through mastering the amarr battleship and laser systems. at 45 mil SP I am currently well (no where near perfectly) skilled for amarr and minmatar subcaps, including t2. My missile skills are severely lacking, and my drone skills dont extend beyond Hammer II's. In short, your statement is about as false as it gets. This wierd mutant looking chick speaks the truth I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Erin Sil Chemikals Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 0	Posted - 2012.03.12 17:31:00 - [55] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: Can fly most ships under carrier. check. I am assuming you mean all races then? 82mil sp here and I still cannot fly half the ships Eve has to offer. I would suggest a re-train into other races and become uber at those. Then find some good people to fly with an have a ball at small gang PVP - hell I am still rubbish at it but it is good fun.
Ogopogo Mu United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 76	Posted - 2012.03.12 17:37:00 - [56] - Quote Confirming that 20m sp is the hard cap. Raid for purple drops until the Serpentis Unleashed expansion unlocks epic spaceship command skills.
Othran Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 172	Posted - 2012.03.12 17:38:00 - [57] - Quote 62mill here. I can fly any Minmatar ship perfectly (near as makes no odds) up to and including command ships. I can't fly battleships and I can't use large T2 guns. The idea that a 20mill SP character can think they are a great sub-cap character is totally ludicrous
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5439	Posted - 2012.03.12 17:46:00 - [58] - Quote Erin Sil wrote: 82mil sp here and I still cannot fly half the ships Eve has to offer. Pff. N00b. 193 / 250 ships at a similar SP level. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Eso Es War Tribe 7	Posted - 2012.03.12 20:10:00 - [59] - Quote Vaal Erit wrote: If you play EVE like your typical MMORPG yes you will indeed get bored after around 6-12 months. If you play EVE like the sandbox no end-game masterpiece that it is, then you will never enjoy another MMORPG again. I suggest joining a corp with some chill people, it will make EVE far more enjoyable. You don't have to PvP even though I highly suggest it, you can spend all of your time doing PvE. Doing L4 missions is hardly scratching the surface of PvE in EVE. EVE is about player interaction and conflict. Other MMORPGs are about running scripted quests and dungeons. PIck one. Seeing a lot of these "bored of EVE/quitting" threads, and 1 thing they have in common is "I missioned for a year, then I got bored." Well duh, read the above post, reflect on whether not you actually want to add something to this game (stop being a mission robot) and get off ur ass and do it :P EVE does not bring content to you, you have to go get it, so gogo!
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 165	Posted - 2012.03.12 21:12:00 - [60] - Quote My main here has 50m SP, and I feel like a complete newb most of the time.
Seleia O'Sinnor Drop of Honey 184	Posted - 2012.03.12 22:14:00 - [61] - Quote Holy **** there are lvl 4 missions? Thanks for pointing out, now I got a goal in Eve again. Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing.
Kessiaan Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 95	Posted - 2012.03.13 00:09:00 - [62] - Quote I think about 15M was when I decided I didn't want to be a miner anymore. Best decision I ever made in this game! ofc with the way mineral prices are going I might actually undock my Hulk for the first time in years. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 76	Posted - 2012.03.13 00:59:00 - [63] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Like the PVE trailer that recently came out said, mastering PVE isn't end game, if anything it's just the beginning because you've found out a way to efficiently support yourself for what makes EVE EVE, PVP.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 37	Posted - 2012.03.13 01:39:00 - [64] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: Can fly most ships under carrier. check. That's odd. I have about 4 times as many SP as you do (you imply 20 million), and I can only fly Caldari ships. Of course I can fly them well. I'm strongly disinclined to fly a ship before I have a hull skill of 5. And I've got my support skillz to 5 too. Just about all of them. Now I'm maxing out drone skillz, and thinking about trying the Tengu, or Gallente ships. EVE isn't dead for me yet. I haven't been able to play much lately, but thee's plenty left to train for m.
Fishmaskle Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 6	Posted - 2012.03.16 22:47:00 - [65] - Quote At 77Mish SP I still have a ton I neeed to learn. Being a jack of all trades hasn't helped any, but stopping short of cap ships and focusing on getting all the ships below researched, the ability to fit them properly, and even branching out into ther other races (minmitar and caldari mostly, don't have a draw to ammar for some reason). You learn new styles, tactics, and things you didn't know you need to research (Damn Specialization skills for each size). The game offers soo dang much it is unreal and unlike those other games where you hit the skill cap and then just endgame all day, in EVE at 20M to 100M SP, you can have a purpose in PvP as well as make some sort of impact through the entire game, it just takes the right time/place/activity to happen. If I helped you out, Technical Issue,-áenemy gank, popped your poor fit,-áhit the "Like" button.
Ur235 Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 21	Posted - 2012.03.16 23:27:00 - [66] - Quote Dude I have 135 million SP's in a pure pvp spec and I cant fly all sub caps so god knows how you can hmm
Serge Bastana GWA Corp 260	Posted - 2012.03.16 23:41:00 - [67] - Quote Ur235 wrote: Dude I have 135 million SP's in a pure pvp spec and I cant fly all sub caps so god knows how you can Badly would be my guess WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...
Johan Civire Dirty Curse inc. 17	Posted - 2012.03.17 01:25:00 - [68] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. What the h... I got a answer try to stop making threats,, like this one again... You have not tast 1/4 of eve you need to learn allot more.... My answer close this threat and a noob or unskilled player is the same i have 150m sp and even i can not do everything i think you need to use the F12 friend for more inf about the game Have you ever try to make a corp running that will be challenge for you with that kind of low sp :) good luck see you in about 3 years how thats done.
Nick Bison Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd 22	Posted - 2012.03.17 01:48:00 - [69] - Quote Obsidian Dagger wrote: I'm homing in on 60 million SP, and still have not anywhere near mastered everything subcap. Or even most. I can get in a lot of HULLS to be sure, but saying you can fly most everything subcap at 20mill SP is just... Daft. I think I have more than 20 mill in just ONE racial hull tree at this point, with a LOT of work still to do on everything. Focus less on choosing hulls, train your support and survivability skills, and spend more than a couple hours doing any one activity before you give up on it! Also, play in groups, it's an MMO after all. Fleets = fun even if all you do it sit around at a safespot and talk about exotic dancers and the Damsel. Bolded the pure gold advice. Support skills and friends. These sure can and do make the difference. Nothing clever at this time.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 542	Posted - 2012.03.17 02:20:00 - [70] - Quote Ur235 wrote: Dude I have 135 million SP's in a pure pvp spec and I cant fly all sub caps so god knows how you can A friend has 140m and can pilot all ships (including industrials) other than titans, though admittedly he isn't an expert in all of them. It basically came to the point where he had maxed everything in the skills he wanted, and so just trained everything else so that he was training something. He's currently working on all certificates recommended for ships. He really only uses about 3 ships, and has everything related to those maxed.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1013	Posted - 2012.03.17 02:24:00 - [71] - Quote wow no really.. go play wow, I hear their endgame is stellar... but seriously.. I don't think I ever heard someone complain that their 20m sp character is out of stuff to do hell, I don't think I've heard ANYONE complain about lack of endgame in eve at all. welp, at least you posted something original The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Cipher Jones 357	Posted - 2012.03.17 06:30:00 - [72] - Quote Apparently you've got covert trolling up to l5. GZ. 04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.
Merovee Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor 12	Posted - 2012.03.17 06:48:00 - [73] - Quote Khhsss EVE is civilization in space and you are but an actor in a grand drama. PS3 ---> exit stage left.
NeoShocker Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD. 116	Posted - 2012.03.17 07:09:00 - [74] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. From your post, it looks like 80-90% carebearing. Of course you're going to get bored. I'm at 100m+ SP and I still do fun things... By PvPing. There is always something to do since I can do many things in eve. Not bound to just PvP, Industry, and PvE. Since you're a carebear, might as well train for hulks and mining director skills for leadership? While you're there, you might as well train Orca to put them leadership skills to use. Several ways to improve your carebear whoring. Don't forget Tech III or logistic ships and faction story line. Or you can quit eve or retire temporarily. I am willing to take your stuff and put them to good use. :)
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 234	Posted - 2012.03.17 07:20:00 - [75] - Quote NeoShocker wrote: Or you can quit eve or retire temporarily. I am willing to take your stuff and put them to good use. :) I'm sure he spends lots of time in Jita and will double your isk. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 967	Posted - 2012.03.17 07:22:00 - [76] - Quote St Mio wrote: PvP? This. You haven't even mentioned the core of EVE, OP. 35m SP and not even close to thinking EVE is "dead" to me. Also, you DEFINITELY were not flying those ships well at 15m. At 35m I can fly maybe 1/3rd of the subcaps well. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome!
Xarrg Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition 2	Posted - 2012.03.17 08:27:00 - [77] - Quote This game is boring as hell. You have to make your own goals to make it fun someway.
Bad Messenger draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 122	Posted - 2012.03.17 09:45:00 - [78] - Quote with 20m sp you do not have even decent skills for rifter so how your game can be done?
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 427	Posted - 2012.03.17 10:12:00 - [79] - Quote 20m sp is kinda meh for the game. You're on the cusp of having much more flexibility pertaining to ships you can use, roles you can fulfill. With that said... Could I offer you the opportunity to try w-space again? I can offer you a cooperative experience in w-space. While I'm not keen on giving away the kitchen sink in the form of roles that circumvent good security practices, I do go to extraordinary lengths to support my members' goals. So, if you might be interested, please Eve-mail me. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Mashie Saldana Veto. Veto Corp 427	Posted - 2012.03.17 10:22:00 - [80] - Quote Tippia wrote: Erin Sil wrote: 82mil sp here and I still cannot fly half the ships Eve has to offer. Pff. N00b. 193 / 250 ships at a similar SP level. 146 ships @ 120M SP 174 ships @ 118M SP 173 ships @ 116M SP 16 ships @ 13M SP I'm clearly doing it wrong Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes
Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. 97	Posted - 2012.03.17 11:36:00 - [81] - Quote I've kinda stuck to one race with 23m SP and I'm starting to get the hang of it. I am nowhere near perfect with flying the Gallente race perfectly. By perfectly, I mean everything you need to fly and fit a gallente ship to 5. I'm almost capable of flying a carrier. I can fly the gallente ahac tomorrow. I fly one pirate frig. I got the t2 mods now. I think once I have my carrier, can jump it the 50 bazzillion light years for one isotope, I might be willing to learn to fly amarr next. But like I said, I want to be perfect with gallente before I go branching out to other races. I am kind of wanting to skip destroyers though. I really hate flying destroyers. While I see the use of the bubbles, I just can't find any motivation to fly that ship.
Name Family Name Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2012.03.17 12:09:00 - [82] - Quote Funny - I started an alt I afk train to have some fun later this year and I came up with a basic skillplan I am currently training that gives the char decent fitting, support, drone and gunnery support skills before training any specific ship or gunnery skills. It's far from being all V, includes no drones bigger than t2 scouts, no ewar, RR/energy transfer skills or subsystems - just a reasonable plan for a future frig/cruiser pilot. The plan ends at around 21 mill SP, which is when I start to train some basic frigs and guns. I'm not recommending doing that for newbs and yes - you can be effective with really low SP, but the funny bit is that the op feels his eve-life is ending at 20 mill SP because he's seen it all, whereas my alts eve life just starts at that number.
Ellendras Silver Jovian Legacy Jovian Empire 10	Posted - 2012.03.17 12:33:00 - [83] - Quote PVP 0 sec SOV war 0 sec fun in general lvl 5 missions doing what you do now with other races/weapons
Ellendras Silver Jovian Legacy Jovian Empire 10	Posted - 2012.03.17 12:37:00 - [84] - Quote Name Family Name wrote: Funny - I started an alt I afk train to have some fun later this year and I came up with a basic skillplan I am currently training that gives the char decent fitting, support, drone and gunnery support skills before training any specific ship or gunnery skills. It's far from being all V, includes no drones bigger than t2 scouts, no ewar, RR/energy transfer skills or subsystems - just a reasonable plan for a future frig/cruiser pilot. The plan ends at around 21 mill SP, which is when I start to train some basic frigs and guns. I'm not recommending doing that for newbs and yes - you can be effective with really low SP, but the funny bit is that the op feels his eve-life is ending at 20 mill SP because he's seen it all, whereas my alts eve life just starts at that number. QFT
Tobiaz Spacerats 23	Posted - 2012.03.17 12:49:00 - [85] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. if you can fly most non-cap ships with only 20 SP you're obviously not going to be very useful in most of them. How about solo-ing W-space, or trying your hand at Incursions. Or how about turning 180 degrees and going for piracy, FW or joining RvB? Or perhaps trying your hand in the rather vicious arena of EVE-PvP called 'market&industry'? How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures!
seany1212 eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred 108	Posted - 2012.03.17 13:54:00 - [86] - Quote JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: People obvious troll is obvious. Although 5/10 for responses he got. 5/10? More like 10/10, this crap has been going on for 5 pages and OP never even posted a second response
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 884	Posted - 2012.03.17 16:06:00 - [87] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. Fly each Assault /heavy assault? -you don't Fly each and every EAF? -you don't Fly each and every SB? -you don't Fly each and every Dictor/Hictor? -you don't Fly each and every Recon/logistics? -you don't Fly each and every Command ship? -you don't Fly each and every Marauder? -you don't Fly each and every Black Ops? -you don't (well Sin doesn't count anyway) Fly each and every Pirate ship? - you don't Can you fully use a drone ship with T2 Ogres or Sentry? - you don't Do you have all support gunnery skills at 5 and specs at 4? -you don't Do you have all your support missiles at 5 and specs at 4? -you don't Do you have all Core skills at 5? -you don't Do you have all starter professions Elite certificates?- you don't I'm sure I forgot some stuff but then you can always target for Sancha carrier, looks like funny training.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5644	Posted - 2012.03.17 16:13:00 - [88] - Quote seany1212 wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: People obvious troll is obvious. Although 5/10 for responses he got. 5/10? More like 10/10, this crap has been going on for 5 pages and OP never even posted a second response I don't know. I think it accidentally turned into a nice GÇ£what can you do with your SPGÇ¥ discussion, ruining the troll somewhat. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 177	Posted - 2012.03.17 17:15:00 - [89] - Quote OP is accurate, at least in the title. 20 mill is around 8 to 10 months and after that you begin to see what we see on the forums. All the "oh but" but, but, but plug excuses and justifacations for failure. I have SP, I have ISK, I have Ships, "You are doing it wrong". You always have to do "other stuff". The poin the OP is trying to make is, after 8 to 10 months the core mechanical barriers melt away and the but plug excuses kick in and you never get over those barriers to move forward in EVE.
Alxea The Army of The Ori 61	Posted - 2012.03.17 19:56:00 - [90] - Quote [quote=Haulin Gneiss]cosmos missions: 84% don Lvl 4s. mastere Exploration missions: don Mining missions: don Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. [/quote If you get tired of eve, then you know nothing about eve! I been playing for 5 years, theres still a lot left to do. You need to stop asking for your hand to be held every step of the way in the game by the missions. Do pvp and be somebody When you can think outside the box and be whatever you want then you can have the most fun in this game. I use to solo pirate in lowsec and small gang pirate for most of 2011, lived in w-space too mostly for the pvp. Was the most fun I had in the game. Wish I had more time to but real life gets in the way. But that just makes months of training time go faster and makes me more isk faster in a way. I build and trade. I haven't touched a mission in 2 years and I have ten's of billions Your giving up prematurely on eve when you have nothing. I have like 83 million sp and have mastered most sub caps on every race. That means specialization on every weapon at 4 everything else on level 5, tanking is all maxed out to what matters, I have over 20 million sp in just ships. But I have about 30 million sp in all weapon systems to back it up with as well as tank and core skills. There is so much for you to do still. The best part of eve is pvp, too bad you don't do that. The game is pvp driven. Once you find a role for yourself the game will be so much more fun I chose a path on the dark side of the force. Why have I been playing eve for 5 years? Because there is always something new to do, always a new goal to get to, and always something new added into the game. If you can't play eve for free by now, your doing it all wrong. Eve is free for me. I have nothing to complain about. I don't pay a sub while I become more skilled in ships. I also have flied most ship in the game into pvp. I am not the best by far, there are 5000 people who are better then me who have 10,000 kills. I just have a little over 1000, but you could be somebody one day too just like that After college I will prob play eve like I use to. lol Until then I become richer! XD
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 222	Posted - 2012.03.17 20:09:00 - [91] - Quote Anyone notice that the OP hasn't responded in this thread to these replies? Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Theodoric Darkwind PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 120	Posted - 2012.03.17 20:11:00 - [92] - Quote EVE is a sandbox, 20mil SP is a good time to leave highsec and jump into said sandbox. Try some pvp, if you dont like wspace then try lowsec piracy, or FW, or maybe find a less srs bsns null alliance (not all null alliances are the srs bsns type), hell maybe even try wardeccing some mission runner corps
VaMei Meafi Corp 101	Posted - 2012.03.17 20:18:00 - [93] - Quote 74Msp (on my main) and 6 years in, every time I reach what I thought would be my 'end game', all I see is doors opening to larger things.
Haulin Gneiss babymuncho Corp 25	Posted - 2012.03.18 03:24:00 - [94] - Quote So part of me is impressed at the professionalism of the vets that posted a " you can do it" attitude. Shite can you haters. My vent was more for the lack of compelling high sec content to bridge the player to more complex play styles involving low/null encroachments. Recent I threw my tenge to the wind and hit null space for some looksee and liked the experience. Thanks for the posts and feedback.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc 45	Posted - 2012.03.18 03:46:00 - [95] - Quote Andski wrote: scimitar, hurricane, uh... yeah. 28 mil SP - scorpion, retriever OP, I don't know what you aren't seeing, but if you have only 20 mil SP, then there's a lot left for you to do, even training-wise. I just did a neural remap at almost 28 mil SP, after having finished a year of training up all of the intelligence and memory skills that I was interested in. I actually cut the list short so I could hurry up and start training perception skills. I'm planning my skill training carefully, and I have a higher average SP/day than at least 90% of active EVE main characters. And I'm just getting started. I've got my leadership/trade skills remap, and then I'm thinking I'll put myself back at even attributes or close for the higher capital skills or whatever else I want. That's a good 2 years or more remaining in my training plan, and that's just a foundation. From there, I'll branch out and learn to do everything in EVE at least once. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens
Jastra Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 4	Posted - 2012.03.18 15:36:00 - [96] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. sitting on 50m skillpoints and cannot think of one ship I can fly perfectly, never mind "most ships" LOL, having skillpoints in spaceship command means nothing Epic Mission Arcs Pirate Mission Arcs Incursions Trading Manufacturing Contract whoring Salvaging Griefing and more importantly , the 50 things I havent though of and you could, it's a sandbox, make castles of your own... or find 50 other guys and go to Null and mess up someone elses
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 887	Posted - 2012.03.18 16:00:00 - [97] - Quote Henry Haphorn wrote: Anyone notice that the OP hasn't responded in this thread to these replies? He's either a very good troll or so ashamed of himself he just killed him self irl for posting that crap. I'd say 10/10 for the first one.
Korsiri Mousetrap Building Inc. 14	Posted - 2012.03.18 18:14:00 - [98] - Quote hrm believe OP is troll - check enjoyed other comments regarding individual experience with SP - check! Experience makes a huge difference, I started a combat alt and he's already flying better than my main toon could at that point, simply because I knew how to concentrate on his skills, and what I'd decided to try out, etc. My first toon has 34mil and skills all over the damn place. Which'll prolly be great when I decide wtf I want to do with him! But really hinders overall. oh yeah and to feed the troll: PI :P
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 222	Posted - 2012.03.18 18:31:00 - [99] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Henry Haphorn wrote: Anyone notice that the OP hasn't responded in this thread to these replies? He's either a very good troll or so ashamed of himself he just killed him self irl for posting that crap. I'd say 10/10 for the first one. Look three posts above yours. He sounds like a good sport. Now, to school him on the following: 1. Trade scamming 2. Contract Scamming 3. Can flipping tricks 4. Ganking haulers 5. Ganking miners and the science behind it 6. Surviving gankers 7. Market manipulation and cornering 8. Competing as a miner against another miner for control of a belt 9. Circumventing the entire New Eden cluster 10. Ganking L4 mission runners and more... Never grow bored again. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Qvar Dar'Zanar EVE University Ivy League 5	Posted - 2012.03.18 19:18:00 - [100] - Quote I've always said that introducing a ranked pvp system gives a game +50% on retaining old players.
Daemeon Fyral Kinda'Shujaa 12	Posted - 2012.03.18 19:21:00 - [101] - Quote Yeah, OP, I have to call total BS. I'm at 27mil and there are only maybe 4 or 5 ships that I'd consider myself able to fly "well" and only another 2 or 3 that I'd consider myself "passable" at (I'd take them out in a fleet if we DESPERATELY needed it but otherwise avoid them till I get better) If your bored of what your doing, try doing something else, look into the market, that alone could take years of study in order to master (and i'm not talking skill training here) or set a goal for yourself (mine is to be able to manufacture every ship and fitting that I fly) Or start up your own POS. start a corp, pvp, the opportunities in this game are endless. Hell if your really that bored become a jita scammer, I hear you can make good money at that.
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 13	Posted - 2012.03.18 19:21:00 - [102] - Quote Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote: I've always said that introducing a ranked pvp system gives a game +50% on retaining old players. We have ranked pvp. It's called a killboard.
Aston Martin DB5 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.03.18 19:24:00 - [103] - Quote EVE is dead from 1sp - 10millionsp as well .... looks like 10-20million is the best time to play EVE.
Meryl SinGarda Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team 354	Posted - 2012.03.18 19:34:00 - [104] - Quote What do you mean? I'm pretty close to 20m SP and I've just opened a second account. I've lived in WH space, nullsec and empire. I've done Incursions, suicide ganking, missions, mining, manufacturing, pvp roaming, exploration, and... there are other things, but I still feel as though I've only just scratched the surface and I've been here for about 3 years or so (multiple characters, mind you). Oh, and there are only 1 or 2 ships I can really utilize to their fullest. Fly Safe, Die Hard
Daniel L'Siata Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies. 89	Posted - 2012.03.18 21:14:00 - [105] - Quote In this topic - OP thinks he can fly Carrier at 20 Mil SP, proves not worth a valid response.
Luba Cibre 70	Posted - 2012.03.18 21:35:00 - [106] - Quote Daniel L'Siata wrote: In this topic - OP thinks he can fly Carrier at 20 Mil SP, proves not worth a valid response. My alt can fly a carrier pretty good at 20m SP.
Cipher Jones 363	Posted - 2012.03.18 23:16:00 - [107] - Quote Aston Martin DB5 wrote: EVE is dead from 1sp - 10millionsp as well .... looks like 10-20million is the best time to play EVE. 1-10mil is some of the best times. 04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed.
Ioci Bad Girl Posse 98	Posted - 2012.03.18 23:29:00 - [108] - Quote Luba Cibre wrote: Daniel L'Siata wrote: In this topic - OP thinks he can fly Carrier at 20 Mil SP, proves not worth a valid response. My alt can fly a carrier pretty good at 20m SP. It's more than possible to undock a carrier at 20 mill. It's even possible to use them for what they are good for. Sure, I can spider tank 3 Carriers to infinite rep but they will still die to blobs. Just like your 20 mill Alt. Blob Rules EVE. 20 mill, 200 mill. Blob Rules EVE. I play EVE solo. I learned how to do one thing well, the only thing I need to do solo. Evade PvP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk Save Derpy!
Haulin Gneiss babymuncho Corp 25	Posted - 2012.03.19 18:34:00 - [109] - Quote Thanks for the 10/10 troll ranking. This wasn't a troll and frankly I was on the beach for spring break so there's your lack of responses. I also noticed that I accidently typed carrier when I should have said command ships...sorry. I've decided to look into a corp for 0/0 or Wspace activities. If anyone has any ideas on a chillax corp please evemail. Thank you ladies and gents for your support and always flattering forum flames.
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 1123	Posted - 2012.03.19 19:43:00 - [110] - Quote At 20 million SP, you can't fly "most" of anything. I'm well over 30 million SP and still need to train minmatar cuiser V and medium projectile V along with a few T2 skills to be able to fly everything smaller than a battleship. In maybe six months I'll be able to claim to actually fly them all properly. I've got a few million SPs in industry, but even without those it's still going take me at least 35 million SP to achieve what the OP claims, short of Black Ops and Marauders. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you.
Metal Icarus xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire 103	Posted - 2012.03.19 19:50:00 - [111] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: cosmos missions: 84% done Lvl 4s. mastered Exploration missions: done Mining missions: done Experimented with wspace and null space. check and pushed overbearing napoleonic dictators. Can fly most ships under carrier. check. SO what's next? Nothing> for me there's nothing left. I think this is where the problem lies. Give us 20 Mil sp people something to hang on to. it's been three years of development but nothing has really been added for us guys. Now...insert forum hounds comments. just got 20 mil sp @20 mil sp, eve online is just starting to get interesting.
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 17	Posted - 2012.03.19 19:51:00 - [112] - Quote Must be a Troll so full of wrong ?? Tal
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 763	Posted - 2012.03.20 12:02:00 - [113] - Quote I'm on 160M SP, and there's still stuff that I've not tried. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

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