For example I saw they were going to try to get a mechanic in null sec where people can fly smaller ships. Well they already have that mechanic in eve, but it remains broken and abandonned. Faction War plexxing is a mechanic that if it was fixed correctly would allow players to fly all sorts of small ships in very small groups and be effective for a larger end. Its all set and ready to go it just needs some fixing. This would be much more important to me than tweaking ship stats.

That is the stuff I would like to see the CSM push for in EXPANSIONS - stuff "that cuts across every corner of EVE."

The rebalancing/nerfing/patching/fixing issues need to be reserved for in-between expansion actions.

I would really like to see the CSM press for some immediate patching/balancing implementations, freeing up the winter expansion for something that benefits all of EVE and does not mainly focus on NULL. Frankly, all of the sandbox is hungry for new toys to play with in the sandbox!!! Don't let the winter expansion be just you about the NULL boys and girls.

If null requires an entire expansion, as does low, let it come later. This next expansion needs to be a broad reaching expansion to score some points with their entire player base.

Dex was here.

Rebalancing/patching/fixing would be something for between the releases if there were not some core mechanics that are broken and whose fixes didn't require more time than is available between the releases. Ie, fixes become part of the content, unfortunately.

That said, to people who say it's out of self-interest we focussed on null the limited resources available, that's not true. I live in lowsec, I do mostly small/medium gang PvP and industry. The truth is, large conflicts fuel many things: player movement, ship/module needs (so industrialist have someone to sell their stuff to), they fuel also the player enthusiasm of players, their activity. Right now the decrease in activity in 0.0 is very severe, so things need to be adressed there. And in the meantime we'd like to provide something for industrialists who've been confined forever in highsec something else to look forward to. A shot at gaining more for a bit more risk, something PvEers and PvPers already possess.

Once the most pressing issues on that front are resolved, then I'd like to see lowsec addressed, for instance, and if new content can come, that'd be very welcome too (and by new content I mean adding to what already exists, but in depth, not in breadth).

No offense I like where this is going, but its just another bone being thrown to us without actually anything concrete being said.

That is the stuff I would like to see the CSM push for in EXPANSIONS - stuff "that cuts across every corner of EVE."

The rebalancing/nerfing/patching/fixing issues need to be reserved for in-between expansion actions.

I would really like to see the CSM press for some immediate patching/balancing implementations, freeing up the winter expansion for something that benefits all of EVE and does not mainly focus on NULL. Frankly, all of the sandbox is hungry for new toys to play with in the sandbox!!! Don't let the winter expansion be just you about the NULL boys and girls.

If null requires an entire expansion, as does low, let it come later. This next expansion needs to be a broad reaching expansion to score some points with their entire player base.

Dex was here.

I think the 0.0 changes coming are more needed that low sec, not because I'm in a 0.0 but because I have a reasonable understanding that 0.0 has a fairly hefty impact on empire and lowsec. I agree low sec needs a dam good boost but at a time when 0.0 is being devastated by (retrospectively) bad moves from CCP (Supercaps, Sov Mechanics etc) and a significant chunk of players are rapidly losing interest on both sides.

0.0 might not be important to you individually but if it doesnt get the viagra it needs then the bulk of players will get bored (you only have to look at the 'DRF wars' both sides are bored stupid of the same ending to a battle - except the Russian alliances, they are just in it for the bots), once they start to drop out it starts impacting what happens out there which then filters down and starts damaging empire ice mining, production, research, PI etc. Yes thats probably looking further ahead than Winter, but its better to start fixing those potential problems than 'waste' the effort buffing something that to be quite frankly doesn't have that big an impact on the overall running of Eve.

I will await the general flaming from low sec residents - but I will point out that I agree lowsec does need a overdose of viagra in the near future.

At least they are telling us that stuff is happening. I find it irritating when stuff happens and we hear nothing from CCP or CSM.

Hopefully we'll see more messaging from CSM and CCP in the future. Where messaging basically means "telegraphing our activities" without necessarily "narrating our activities". People who engage in hand-to-hand combat such as boxing, Karate or Tae Kwon Do will understand the difference between "telegraphing" and "narrating". It's the same principle as using your indicators when driving a car: you're not actually telling people where you're going, just that you're turning left.

So while "we're having a meeting" might not mean much in the grand scheme of things, it is a start.

At least they are telling us that stuff is happening. I find it irritating when stuff happens and we hear nothing from CCP or CSM.

Hopefully we'll see more messaging from CSM and CCP in the future. Where messaging basically means "telegraphing our activities" without necessarily "narrating our activities". People who engage in hand-to-hand combat such as boxing, Karate or Tae Kwon Do will understand the difference between "telegraphing" and "narrating". It's the same principle as using your indicators when driving a car: you're not actually telling people where you're going, just that you're turning left.

So while "we're having a meeting" might not mean much in the grand scheme of things, it is a start.

CSM, please don't forget bug stomping as something on the priority list.
Closer to the top than the bottom.
(Seleene, you'll get my vote if you run again on the "Iterations" platform.)

The paper cuts this week have been getting pretty deep.

e.g.,
- my drones still don't work consistently correctly (the little bastards)
- last night, I couldn't even consistently get Projectile ammo type loaded/switched
- my cargo hold window behavior is less satisfying than it was a week ago
- I've now gotten into the habit of constantly checking that all my modules are still online
- windows won't consistently dismiss when the close control is clicked

Yes, there are work arounds to all these. The point is that I'm now spending a significant amount of game time hitting 'paper cut' bumps and doing the work around rather than straight line playing. It breaks the game-play flow and creates frustration.

Just some irritations from the last couple of days.
The full list is immense.

So far we have Meissa, Mittani, Two Step, and a few other CSM delegates (sorry -- can't be bothered to gather all the names) claiming to have had a meeting with one CCP manager, and claiming that good stuff was talked about, and claiming that we'll hear about it, eventually, maybe. 138 posts and 7+ hours later, and not a single CCP person has chimed to confirm even the most basic of facts; like even the meeting occurred, much less that anything substantial was discussed or that anything will be the result of it or even the vaguest of indications when. I predict that none will be forthcoming in the next several days either, seeing as CCP is incapable of staffing for the weekend.

Face it CSM: CCP has absolutely no respect for you, and by extension no respect for the players. They're just trolling you. Quelle surprise

MDD

While I agree with you maybe he is busy writing a devblog so it can be published this weekend As CCP has a one DevBlog a day policy we might see some more devblogs over the weekend that might answer some of the pressing questions

And Seleene please ask about the Dev answers every question. The tread has not been added to the new forums and we need a update

like even the meeting occurred

I trust the CSM will represent the eve players' views to the best to their ability.

I also wrote a quick blog about the events of today to try and put everything in one place: Minutes & Meetings