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Mrmuttley	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:01:00 - [91] Originally by: Altai Saker The rule changes were made by BIG simply to further their lottery, it's that simple. Now they claim well everyone wanted us to split the pot, I sure as hell didn't, and judging by this thread I certainly dont see very many people pro this opinion. Well it is Bigs lottery so i guess they can do more or less what they like with it. If you can do a better job go start your own lottery and well take a look. If i like the look of it i will enter. As for people not applauding the changes in this thread well you dont know much about human nature do you. People complain about things they dont like but rarely do the praise even when they feel its due. Ever ring up a company in RL to complain about something? If Chances are high that you have. Ever ring up a company in RL to say wonderful job you guys are doing. I doubt it. If you have then you are one of the few. Trust me I work in customer services for a major UK company. Almost No-one contacts us with praise but we must be doing something right as we have about 2 million customers who could easily go elsewhere. If you're not ever going to enter the lottery then that means the chances of me winning have just gone up a tiny bit ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmmm I need a Sig
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:20:00 - [92] Edited by: TornSoul on 25/05/2004 07:31:41 Originally by: Dobbick Tornsoul, I must applaud you for looking at the sigh BIG picture and making the changes in the lottery that you did. Thank you. And yes - the BIG Picture is what is on my mind indeed. Originally by: Dobbick One sticking point however is that people seem to have a problem with the potential for BIG to take 10% of the pot. Can I suggest you remove this clause in the rules until further notice if you, as I believe will be the situation, do not intend to enact that particular clause? Yes a lot of ppl to seem to get cought up on this one. A (very) few ppl have expressed it would be only fair if BIG collected at least a little amount (maybe not 10%) of ISK for our effort. While I have zero plans of doing this (and most certainly aint allowed to with the 3.8B made of the Imp Apoc draw as per CCP (just) decree), removing it would make it nigh impossible ever putting it back in. I like to keep my options open. Who knows... It might some day cost a small fee to wire ISK (to the winners) or... Who knows... The drama it would create re-introducing it... I'd rather just keep it there, and patiently explain to everyone that we have never made any ISK on the lottery, nor have any plans do do so, every time it's brought up. But (this only just occured to me) maybe simply add a line about us never having envoked this right nor plan to.. hmm I'll think about that one Originally by: Dobbick Furthermore, since everyones 1 million isk gives them 7 chances to win something instead of just the 2 chances to win that were promised, I am at a bit of a loss as to why people have a problem with this. I'm not totally sure here what you mean as it could be interpreted in two ways. But what I think you mean is: A million put into the pot in round 27, will be entered into round 28 and round 29. This is not the case, a million entered into the the pot during round 27, is only used in the drawings 27 and 28. For round 29 everyone will again have to buy tickets. Originally by: Dobbick I would like to ask what will happen to the excess 300 million isk from Imperial Apoc draw, as it is effectively removed from the pot for these 7 draws? That you also ask this, lead be to believe my above interpretation is correct. Every excess (ISK not paid out via prizes) from each round will simply be put toward guranteeing the prizes in the next round. The changes made to teh lottery rules, is in the hopes that the lottery will thusly be able to sustain 1.75B payots indefinatly. Should there not be enough Excess ISK to sustain those prizes, whatever ISK left will be used towards whatever prizes is possible with whats left. Result : The next round would start from scratch (Which history have proven does not attrack a lot of ppl) Should it turn out, that more than 1.75B ISK gets 'generated' each round - The prizes will be increased and/or multiplied. I dont really see this happening though - Over time as interest and awereness declines (we wont make the news every week afterall) I think we will see the pot decreasing and decreasing, back down to more 'normal' levels. I'm hoping this will take sufficiently enough long time that it will be possible to make several (a handfull maybe..?) new EVEian billionaires. EDIT: (edit spured on about the cashflow) Factoid : The BIG Games char is the holder of the lottery ISK and the ISK never enters the corp wallet, until paid out it stays in BIG games personal wallet. Corp economy and lottery economy are two totally distinct and seperated entities. ISK is never transfered from on to the other under any circumstanses. The BIG Games wallet only opens up to lottery winners. BIG Lottery [u
Sabylieen	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:22:00 - [93] Reading all the arguments here I only like to get an answer to one question that has never really been answered, and that is essential for BIG's further trust: Does BIG defend changing the conditions of the lottery after ppl have put money in? I see all the arguments for why it's done, and I believe it will be for the better of the community. But I will not put money in a game where there's a presedence for changing conditions after the round has started, even though it's done without thought of own profit.
Mrmuttley	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:29:00 - [94] Originally by: Sabylieen Reading all the arguments here I only like to get an answer to one question that has never really been answered, and that is essential for BIG's further trust: Does BIG defend changing the conditions of the lottery after ppl have put money in? I see all the arguments for why it's done, and I believe it will be for the better of the community. But I will not put money in a game where there's a presedence for changing conditions after the round has started, even though it's done without thought of own profit. Pointless question Move on nothing to see here ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmmm I need a Sig
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:36:00 - [95] Edited by: TornSoul on 25/05/2004 07:37:54 Actually I think its very valid concern. And this concern is excactly why I have timed the rules changes to happen now, as changes where already made (impossed by CCP) Make the neccessary changes in one go and get it over with, so people dont have to worry about the rules changing all the time. As I've stated many times already : Changed rules = upset ppl = bad. So I rather have it done and over with, and deal with the upset ppl only once. BIG Lottery [u
Geller	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:37:00 - [96] Originally by: Dobbick Tornsoul, I must applaud you for looking at the sigh BIG picture I think you unintentionaly hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what they are doing - what is best for BIG. This isn't good for the community - its good for BIG Corp. Originally by: Dobbick Furthermore, since everyones 1 million isk gives them 7 chances to win something instead of just the 2 chances to win that were promised, But it doesn't. It gives us 4 chances to win back about 45% of our money, and then somepeople who haven't paid into the pot get chances to win the other 55%. We initial tick buyers don't even get a chance at over half the money. We are being scammed.
Murikka	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:41:00 - [97] TornSoul...grab your brain and THINK...please..don't be so obsessed about only your view of the issue.. From my point of view, there's only 1 issue here..splitting the money over several weeks.. And the thread, where "lots" of people wanted to split the pot...I counted 9 wanting to split the pot in 1 draw..NOT over several weeks...and 3 people opposing the split, 9 isn't a lot comparing to the whole playerbase. RL example: If I would pay $50 for a lottery ticket to win $100 mill, and few days after I bought the ticket the company holding the lottery would state that the pot is changed to only $50 mill.. (and some of the money I spent would be used in next drawing, for other's pleasure) I would probably sue them... Too bad EVE has no law and justice...
Geller	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:48:00 - [98] Originally by: TornSoul And this concern is excactly why I have timed the rules changes to happen now, as changes where already made (impossed by CCP) One wrong turn deserves another? I don't think you can validly use the fact that a rules change was forced upon you to justify swindling people. The fact are: 1) We all bought tickets given a clear description of how are funds were going to be used. 2) BIG Corporation chose not abide by its own rules and arbitrarily removed 2.1 Billion ISK from the pot. 3) BIG Corporation intend to use the stolen money to fund a future lottery (Round 29). 4) People who put that money into the pot under the understanding that they had a chance at winning it back will have no claims to the money and no chance of winning it unless they pay a further sum of money to BIG. Clearly BIG want to run the BIGgest lottery. The best way to stay ahead of the game in their eyes is to offer the biggest guarenteed payout. In order to do this you need to have the funds to cover events should the lottery pool fall short of the payout. BIG do not have sufficient funds to do this, so they have stolen sufficient funds from their customers. Geller
Keldon	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:49:00 - [99] ok lets get this straight, when we all entered the lottery we never knew we were going to win 3bio isk, i DONT agree with the change, i would pay out 3 1bio prizes and 1 smaller prize BUT i respect the change, Big are NOT making a profit <from this enterprise> and i have played the lotto with them for some time, BUT afaik whining about it on these forums aint gonna change there opionion <and it shouldnt> and i know someone will say it already did, but no it didnt it let them see that splitting it is a better idea, If u win 1bio isk will u still complain? I dont think u will so just get a grip and move on [whine] i only get 45% of what i entered[/whine] Hmmm i didnt see any 500k prizes?
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:59:00 - [100] Originally by: Geller Originally by: Dobbick Tornsoul, I must applaud you for looking at the sigh BIG picture I think you unintentionaly hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what they are doing - what is best for BIG. This isn't good for the community - its good for BIG Corp. Care to back that up with nothing but statements? Originally by: Geller Originally by: Dobbick Furthermore, since everyones 1 million isk gives them 7 chances to win something instead of just the 2 chances to win that were promised, But it doesn't. It gives us 4 chances to win back about 45% of our money, and then somepeople who haven't paid into the pot get chances to win the other 55%. We initial tick buyers don't even get a chance at over half the money. We are being scammed. You as one ticket buyer would never even have gotten half the ISK - At most the first prize of 1 billion. You are furthermore given 2 extra chances at winning 'something'. I do not understand this obsessiveness with the full pot that no single person could get regardless of it's size. Thus no single person is beeing cheated/scammed out of a potential larger prize. So what is the problem. I do not get it. Lets see here: If we pay out one prize of 1 Billion, or if we pay out two prizes of 1 Billion or if we pay out three prizes of 1 billion or if we pay out three 1 billion prizes and one 800M prize or.. The top prize is capped at 1 billion - You would still only be able to win 1 Billion ISK as top prize, regardless of the total sum of prizes paid out. So what is it you are beeing cheated of that you would otherwise have gotten - I do not get it. 1 billion is max - No matter what. You are even given 2 extra chances at winning, that you did not have before the rule changes. BIG Lottery [u

TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 08:07:00 - [101] Originally by: Geller One wrong turn deserves another? Did I say that? No. I said - Lets get any changes over with, so it can settle down again - By doing all changes in one go, it will keep confusion (and anger) 'isolated' timeframe-wise. Doing it once (rule changes) is bad enough, as we can all see - Doing it twice.... For (most of) the rest of your post - Throwing accusations around wont get you a decetn answer. BIG Lottery [u
Geller	Posted - 2004.05.25 08:25:00 - [102] Edited by: Geller on 25/05/2004 08:26:57 Originally by: TornSoul I do not understand this obsessiveness with the full pot that no single person could get regardless of it's size. Thus no single person is beeing cheated/scammed out of a potential larger prize. So what is the problem. I do not get it. Lets see here: If we pay out one prize of 1 Billion, or if we pay out two prizes of 1 Billion or if we pay out three prizes of 1 billion or if we pay out three 1 billion prizes and one 800M prize or.. The top prize is capped at 1 billion - You would still only be able to win 1 Billion ISK as top prize, regardless of the total sum of prizes paid out. Okay - assuming pot of 3.8B isk Which means there should be 38M tickets One Payout of 3.8B ISK -> average payout per ticket 1000 ISK Three Payments of 1B ISK and One Payment of 800M ISK -> average payout per ticket 1000 ISK One Payment of 2B ISK, One Payment 1.2B Isk, and One Payment 600M ISK -> average payout per ticket 1000 ISK Thirty Eight Payments of 100M Isk -> average payout per ticket 1000 ISK But One Payment of 1B ISK, One Payment 500M and one Payment 250M -> average payout per ticket 460 ISK I can spot a good deal, and I can spot a rotten deal.The true value of our tickets has dropped from 1000 ISK to 460 ISK. This to me sounds like a rotten deal. The fact that the outstanding 2.1 Billion is going to be used to finance a future round doesn't change the fact that it is not BIGs money to use this way. I like the idea of BIG using 2.1 Billion to finance a lottery round and if you had the money I'd say go for it, but you dont own that money. Not unless you steal it anyway. I doubt there is much we can do to stop you, but I feel its important the communitee realises that this is precisiely what you are proposing. Geller
Dracoform	Posted - 2004.05.25 08:26:00 - [103] TornSoul, I don't think you get it... what people are complaining about. It's not about the cap on 1bil, it's about the total payout of the potmoney from the 27 drawing!!! The ticket bougth for that drawing should be valid until ALL the potmoney has been payed out. Doesn't matter if it's in one prise for 3,8 bil in one drawing or 10 prises with a total of the same amount in one drawing.... or if you make several drawings over some weeks. As long as the tickets bought for the 27 drawing is valid until all the money in that pot (3,8bil) is payed out. Otherwise it's clearly a scam, no mather what you are saying.
sableye	Posted - 2004.05.25 08:27:00 - [104] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Geller Originally by: Dobbick Tornsoul, I must applaud you for looking at the sigh BIG picture I think you unintentionaly hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what they are doing - what is best for BIG. This isn't good for the community - its good for BIG Corp. Care to back that up with nothing but statements? Originally by: Geller Originally by: Dobbick Furthermore, since everyones 1 million isk gives them 7 chances to win something instead of just the 2 chances to win that were promised, But it doesn't. It gives us 4 chances to win back about 45% of our money, and then somepeople who haven't paid into the pot get chances to win the other 55%. We initial tick buyers don't even get a chance at over half the money. We are being scammed. You as one ticket buyer would never even have gotten half the ISK - At most the first prize of 1 billion. You are furthermore given 2 extra chances at winning 'something'. I do not understand this obsessiveness with the full pot that no single person could get regardless of it's size. Thus no single person is beeing cheated/scammed out of a potential larger prize. So what is the problem. I do not get it. Lets see here: If we pay out one prize of 1 Billion, or if we pay out two prizes of 1 Billion or if we pay out three prizes of 1 billion or if we pay out three 1 billion prizes and one 800M prize or.. The top prize is capped at 1 billion - You would still only be able to win 1 Billion ISK as top prize, regardless of the total sum of prizes paid out. So what is it you are beeing cheated of that you would otherwise have gotten - I do not get it. 1 billion is max - No matter what. You are even given 2 extra chances at winning, that you did not have before the rule changes. the point is before the rule change we had a share of winning 3.5 billion now we have a share of winning 1.75 billion and our share will get worse as more tickets are bought since no further money will be added to the pot.
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 08:50:00 - [105] @Geller You failed to answer my question, my only question. So what is it you are beeing cheated of that you would otherwise have gotten - I do not get it. I'm not going to quote my full post where I asked this, and where the context makes it clear why I'm asking. I'm sure you can find it and thus answer my question. --------------- And you dont have to keep repeating the math about avr value per ticket. In a lottery with a fixed payout it makes no sense. One of the rule changes is that we are having fixed payouts - ie. they are not 'directly proportional' to the amount of tickets sold. With such a setup, you have no way of making that calculus until after the fact. A setup we had 'in reverse' with our 50M ISK minimum guarantee. Where noone complained that in some rounds the avr value of a ticket was lower (which is basically what you are complaining about now) in some rounds than others. Noone complained about the 'avr value of tickets' varying -noone. In all the time we've done the 50M ISK gurantee you could not be sure of the 'avr value of a ticket' when entering into the lottery. It's the same now. We then took the full risk on our shoulders of the minimum not beeing met (and paid regardless). Now we swing it the other way - and all hell breaks loose. Even though it potentially will benefit more ppl over time. BIG Lottery [u
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 08:57:00 - [106] Originally by: Dracoform TornSoul, I don't think you get it... Thats what I keep saying... Originally by: Dracoform what people are complaining about. It's not about the cap on 1bil, it's about the total payout of the potmoney from the 27 drawing!!! I know it's not the cap (directly). Originally by: Dracoform The ticket bougth for that drawing should be valid until ALL the potmoney has been payed out. Doesn't matter if it's in one prise for 3,8 bil in one drawing or 10 prises with a total of the same amount in one drawing.... or if you make several drawings over some weeks. As long as the tickets bought for the 27 drawing is valid until all the money in that pot (3,8bil) is payed out. Otherwise it's clearly a scam, no mather what you are saying. This is what I dont understand. Regardless how it's done - You can as an individual as a maximum win 1B (becuase if the cap) So if the maximum you can win is 1B - Why does it matter This is what I do not get BIG Lottery [u
FraNtik	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:06:00 - [107] So far only 12 guys are against new pot split rules. So 12 out of >4,000 ticket buyers , what are your odds? ---------------------------------- FA's Bloodhound "You can warp, but you can't hide"
Geller	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:14:00 - [108] Originally by: TornSoul So what is it you are beeing cheated of that you would otherwise have gotten - I do not get it. A fair payout on the lottery I paid my money into, based on the rules which were in force when I entered the lottery. I do not care if the maximum payout is reduced, so long as the probability is increased in line. For example if you split the pot in half (offering two prizes) the payout halves but the probability doubles. Originally by: TornSoul @Geller And you dont have to keep repeating the math about avr value per ticket. In a lottery with a fixed payout it makes no sense. Two issues here. Yes I do need to explain the math behind it, because you don't seem to grasp it. You seem to be totally unaware of the fact that you are stealing peoples money. You appear to be oblivious to the implications of what you are doing. The other issue - I did not sign up to a lottery with a fixed payout, and I have no intent to do so. The math is however still correct - although it was based on the assumption that you didnt sell a signle additional ticket. In actually fact every ticket sold devalues every existing ticket which was sold in round 27 because the payout remains the same whilst the probability of winning drops. Geller
Dracoform	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:19:00 - [109] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Dracoform TornSoul, I don't think you get it... Thats what I keep saying... Originally by: Dracoform what people are complaining about. It's not about the cap on 1bil, it's about the total payout of the potmoney from the 27 drawing!!! I know it's not the cap (directly). Originally by: Dracoform The ticket bougth for that drawing should be valid until ALL the potmoney has been payed out. Doesn't matter if it's in one prise for 3,8 bil in one drawing or 10 prises with a total of the same amount in one drawing.... or if you make several drawings over some weeks. As long as the tickets bought for the 27 drawing is valid until all the money in that pot (3,8bil) is payed out. Otherwise it's clearly a scam, no mather what you are saying. This is what I dont understand. Regardless how it's done - You can as an individual as a maximum win 1B (becuase if the cap) So if the maximum you can win is 1B - Why does it matter This is what I do not get I would say it matters if you have one chance of winning 1/.5/.25 bil or if you have two chances on the same amounts wich would be the case if your tickets would be valid in both 28 and 29 drawings. Surely you must get that? Anyway it's just a lottery inside a game, not a BIGdeal
Murikka	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:23:00 - [110] Edited by: Murikka on 25/05/2004 09:25:44 Originally by: Dracoform The ticket bougth for that drawing should be valid until ALL the potmoney has been payed out. Doesn't matter if it's in one prise for 3,8 bil in one drawing or 10 prises with a total of the same amount in one drawing.... or if you make several drawings over some weeks. As long as the tickets bought for the 27 drawing is valid until all the money in that pot (3,8bil) is payed out. Otherwise it's clearly a scam, no mather what you are saying. Originally by: TornSoul This is what I dont understand. Regardless how it's done - You can as an individual as a maximum win 1B (becuase if the cap) So if the maximum you can win is 1B - Why does it matter This is what I do not get Why does it matter...Trying to explain here: I don't like giving my money to other people..thats the point here.. After this split it would be the same thing if I would have given 500k donation to round 29, and bought 500k worth of tickets for round 28...poorly said, but thats the point..

Yuna	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:23:00 - [111] I think this way is totally fair. And it makes it much more attractive to enter with several chances to win as well. And I don't see what you all are arguing about the money you put into #27 it was only 1M and if you where stupid enuf to put in more well that's your own fault. Read the rules next time.
Mrmuttley	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:29:00 - [112] If you dont like giving your money away why did you enter a lottery. No one here has even a good chance of winning. Your chances of winning (regardles of prize size ) is terrible. as its set up under the new rules your chances of winning something are better than they were before the introduction of this change. @ Dracoform Seconded! Remeber boys and girls this is just a game. I know a lot of people spend 27 hours a day 9 days a week in the universe of Eve and therefore may mistake it for RL but trust me it is a game. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmmm I need a Sig
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:31:00 - [113] Originally by: Geller Originally by: TornSoul So what is it you are beeing cheated of that you would otherwise have gotten - I do not get it. A fair payout on the lottery I paid my money into, based on the rules which were in force when I entered the lottery. I've long ago acknowledged the fact that we changed the rules 'half ways' Originally by: Geller Yes I do need to explain the math behind it, because you don't seem to grasp it. I understand the math perfectly, thank you very much. Originally by: Geller The other issue - I did not sign up to a lottery with a fixed payout, and I have no intent to do so. Fair enough. As already acknowledged numerous times, we did change the rules. Originally by: Geller The math is however still correct I have not disputed the math of your recent post. BIG Lottery [u
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:45:00 - [114] Edited by: TornSoul on 25/05/2004 09:46:54 Originally by: Murikka Why does it matter...Trying to explain here: I don't like giving my money to other people..thats the point here.. After this split it would be the same thing if I would have given 500k donation to round 29, and bought 500k worth of tickets for round 28...poorly said, but thats the point.. If thats how it makes you feel than I cant blame you. But the math behind it is different. If you only had 500K in round 28, you'd have only half the chance at the top prize of 1B... Regardless that not the full pot is paid out in 28 you still have the excact same chance at winning the 1B. Everyone else is in the same boat - no odd's of winnning the top prize has changed. But the size of the top prize has changed. and uhm... 2 more prizes have been introduced - giving you an extra chance at winning something (ie. giving you better overall odds at actually striking it lucky (as opposed to only having one prize), but for lower prizes, as these has been capped) BIG Lottery [u
Arch Gabriel	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:46:00 - [115] Only thing i want to know is: DO we - ticket buyers from round #27 - get a chanse off winning in round #28 AND #29? => which would be a GRAND TOTAL POT off 3.8B isk. OR only a chanse in round #28? => which would make a POT off 1.75B isk This seems to be the major problem with the "NEW" rules
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:51:00 - [116] Getting lost in all the math here again. The main goal and the reason for making this change : For the long term betterment of the community - As this change hopefully will mean huge prizes to be paid for some time to come. Thats the only reason for doing this. Thats the only reason why I've spend an entire night and then some, trying to explain why (I believe) this change is a Good ThingÖ BIG Lottery [u
Murikka	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:57:00 - [117] I give up...nothing a poor minority player can do...I did buy tickets for the full amount of 1 mill..and 2 extra millions from my alts..but still I feel I'm being ripped off.. Hopefully I will just win something.. What can you do...if it's not the government ripping you off..then it's someone else :/ I'll have to see if I feel any better in 2 weeks..but for now..this is my last post about this issue..
N00N	Posted - 2004.05.25 09:58:00 - [118] Here's how I view BIGs lottery situation: 1. I participated in an Imp. Apoc-drawing which was free, for that I am grateful. 2. I payed 1M isk to participate in a standard BIG 100% payout lottery. 2.b BIG makes a decision and keeps appr. 550k of my money while still holding 1000 tickets for a lottery where chances are the same for all players paying the same amount as I. This means no difference in odds from my perspective, but 550k of my money has been forfeit. 3. BIG holds a lottery with 3 prizes in which I participate. 4. I cut my losses and do not participate in any more lotteries from BIG
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.05.25 10:01:00 - [119] Originally by: Arch Gabriel Only thing i want to know is: DO we - ticket buyers from round #27 - get a chanse off winning in round #28 AND #29? => which would be a GRAND TOTAL POT off 3.8B isk. OR only a chanse in round #28? => which would make a POT off 1.75B isk This seems to be the major problem with the "NEW" rules Indeed thats seems to be the core of it. Ticket buyers of round 27 do not get entered into round 29 - Sorry (that was not the answer you where hoping for) Regardless how much I try - Those opposing this seems solely focussed on this one fact and this one fact alone. They dont care one bit about the BIGger picture - ie. the future potential lottery billionaires the changes makes possible. Fine - I accept you feal cheated in some way (but disagree this is fact). Only a very few have been able to get over this - and look at the BIGgger picture and accept, that regardles of 'personal' feelings, it's probably for the best for the community as a whole. Kudos to those few who has done this. BIG Lottery [u
Arch Gabriel	Posted - 2004.05.25 10:11:00 - [120] Edited by: Arch Gabriel on 25/05/2004 10:27:07 Originally by: TornSoul Indeed thats seems to be the core of it. Ticket buyers of round 27 do not get entered into round 29 - Sorry (that was not the answer you where hoping for) Regardless how much I try - Those opposing this seems solely focussed on this one fact and this one fact alone. They dont care one bit about the BIGger picture - ie. the future potential lottery billionaires the changes makes possible. Fine - I accept you feal cheated in some way (but disagree this is fact). Only a very few have been able to get over this - and look at the BIGgger picture and accept, that regardles of 'personal' feelings, it's probably for the best for the community as a whole. Kudos to those few who has done this. Well i feel a little bit dissapointed. But on the otherhand i can get the 'BIG'ger picture. I still hope to win one off these loterys (never have any luck, even in RL ), but i do like the new rules. 1B pot every 2 weeks would be a good deal - providing that there is a cap. It would be a shame if U BIG'ers let people buy 20k tickets. I (well an alt anyway) bought for 1 mill tickets and i still have a chanse off multiplying it with 250% (after missing out on the Imp Apoc), so thats a good thing. Keep up the good work BIG



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