Originally by: Kelli Flay

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Roy Batty68

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Originally by: Tatsujin Koufu

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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But you agree with the part where he said your kind lacks skill correct?

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No, but I would agree that the game that CCP are turning this into requires no skill.

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what part of shooting an unarmed hauler that is afk requires skill exactly?

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What part of actually flying that hauler that is so hard that it requires game changes to rectify it?

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Spoken as someone who has no frigging idea what she's talking about. Tell me: have you ever tried to suicide gank anyone at all?

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Spoken as someone who has no frigging idea what she's talking about. Tell me: have you ever tried to suicide gank anyone at all?

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No but I do know that you can easily catch someone on the other side of a gate. {especially something as slow and aligns like a hauler} and destroy it easily.

This can happen whether the hauler pilot is afk or not.

Which part of this am I wrong about?

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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In practice, properly fit, piloted haulers are only ever killed outside stations.

SKUNK

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Spoken as someone who has no frigging idea what she's talking about. Tell me: have you ever tried to suicide gank anyone at all?

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No but I do know that you can easily catch someone on the other side of a gate. {especially something as slow and aligns like a hauler} and destroy it easily.

This can happen whether the hauler pilot is afk or not.

Which part of this am I wrong about?

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Originally by: Cody Quinn

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Actually thats funny you mention SWG... I quit SWG when they ruined it and joined EVE. They were opposite though, they didn't listen to their majority of the customer base. Here they are listening to both sides... may not seem like it but by the changes they are making you can tell they arn't leaning too far to one side or the other.

Again they just want to find EVE's equilibrium.

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Spoken as someone who has no frigging idea what she's talking about. Tell me: have you ever tried to suicide gank anyone at all?

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No but I do know that you can easily catch someone on the other side of a gate. {especially something as slow and aligns like a hauler} and destroy it easily.

This can happen whether the hauler pilot is afk or not.

Which part of this am I wrong about?

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Spoken as someone who has no frigging idea what she's talking about. Tell me: have you ever tried to suicide gank anyone at all?

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No but I do know that you can easily catch someone on the other side of a gate. {especially something as slow and aligns like a hauler} and destroy it easily.

This can happen whether the hauler pilot is afk or not.

Which part of this am I wrong about?

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Use a transport ship... you know.. the ones designed to TRANSPORT high value goods. You cant be killed.

SKUNK

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Rafau Maco

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Any why would there be any changes like they are making in high-sec in 0.0? Read your posts when you write them. Or at least think them through.

Its so simple it doesn't make sense why people cant figure it out.

If you want to PvE go to high-sec, if you want to PvP go to lowsec or 0.0 and if you cant handle PvPing against players who can actually hurt you back then maybe you should re-think your EVE "profession"

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As I said, little bear, CCP is on your side. The sharding of Eve has begun. High sec will be reserved for PvE and PvP will be regulated to low sec and 0.0. That is, until some of you bears decide that you would like to have a bit of the riches of 0.0. Then CCP will be forced to step in and reduce the risk from 'griefers' again. The result: Two servers. One for PvP and one for PvE. Sounds great on paper, doesn't it?

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Originally by: 5pinDizzy

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Stuff about how hard EVE is
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Does this not make sense?

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Quote:

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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.

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Originally by: Ruze

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However, I think that, with an increase in hisec security, there should be an implemented tax that covers ALL hisec activity, so that those who are relying on NPC's for safety (instead of the safety garnered from their own actions or the actions of teamwork), are in some way paying for that security.

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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In practice, properly fit, piloted haulers are only ever killed outside stations.

SKUNK

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Explain why this is true then? You simply saying so doesn't convince me.

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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So in order to haul anything in high sec, noobs are expected to drop what they are training to train up Transports? {which are like a 2 month train}


edit: i meant high sec, not low....corrected.

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Edited by: Kelli Flay on 02/09/2008 19:56:32

Originally by: Le Skunk

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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AFK or not, it can still be destroyed easily once it jumps a gate.

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Spoken as someone who has no frigging idea what she's talking about. Tell me: have you ever tried to suicide gank anyone at all?

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No but I do know that you can easily catch someone on the other side of a gate. {especially something as slow and aligns like a hauler} and destroy it easily.

This can happen whether the hauler pilot is afk or not.

Which part of this am I wrong about?

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Use a transport ship... you know.. the ones designed to TRANSPORT high value goods. You cant be killed.

SKUNK

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So in order to haul anything in high sec, noobs are expected to drop what they are training to train up Transports? {which are like a 2 month train}


edit: i meant high sec, not low....corrected.

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Originally by: Granmethedon III

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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So in order to haul anything in high sec, noobs are expected to drop what they are training to train up Transports? {which are like a 2 month train}


edit: i meant high sec, not low....corrected.

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Who on earth wants to suicide gank a noob?

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Originally by: Granmethedon III

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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So in order to haul anything in high sec, noobs are expected to drop what they are training to train up Transports? {which are like a 2 month train}


edit: i meant high sec, not low....corrected.

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Who on earth wants to suicide gank a noob?

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Originally by: Shodowcrow

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As a new starter I have found it impossible to play this game in any zone. I wanted to play and mine a bit for cash.
Because you are not safe minning anywhere because there is no safezone. Everytime I get 6000m3 in a can along comes a gang takes it and says please shoot us so we can have your ship too. they dont even take it they just recan it so if I am moving it I became the the theif!?!?!? Any logic in the world says thats an exploit. There are so many people doing this the only way to mine is in a dam badger or as part of a gang. The gang idea is impossible because THERE ARE NO OTHER NEW PLAYERS because so many people are stealing.

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Originally by: Lucyfear

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Edited by: Lucyfear on 02/09/2008 20:01:57
Don't mind getting killed if I do something but I am not sure that minning should be such a crime against the game. Ever noticed that the only way to mine these days is with a Badger because so many people re-can your can to try and gank you.

As a starter it forces you to go somewhere you can use a lockable can, all great. Are the gankers running out of us newbies to gank/rob and so the few joining are feeling hard done by and quiting?#


Making this game like WOW would be a mistake but keeping it so hard on new player will cause economic issues for all?

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Originally by: Roy Batty68

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Pretty much all of it.


But whatever. You are the new face of Eve. The "I Know It Alls Cause teh FOREMS told me so" crowd. The "I Knows Just what needs to be Nerfed!"

Thanky CCP! Thanky for lookin out for my FAIR. Cause teh bad old gankers on the forums needed a spankin any old way.

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Originally by: Granmethedon III

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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So in order to haul anything in high sec, noobs are expected to drop what they are training to train up Transports? {which are like a 2 month train}


edit: i meant high sec, not low....corrected.

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Who on earth wants to suicide gank a noob?

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Originally by: Ruze

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Originally by: Cody Quinn

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Actually thats funny you mention SWG... I quit SWG when they ruined it and joined EVE. They were opposite though, they didn't listen to their majority of the customer base. Here they are listening to both sides... may not seem like it but by the changes they are making you can tell they arn't leaning too far to one side or the other.

Again they just want to find EVE's equilibrium.

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Actually, considering I played SWG from live and still do, off and on, let's be honest.

SOE listened to it's playerbase when creating the NGE. Application failed, no doubt, and many were betrayed. But the forums were FULL of complaints about unbalanced combat mechanics, FOTM class combinations, etc, etc.

The simple truth is, SOE tried to listen to everyone, and left their original concept behind. Will CCP do that? I don't think so, at least in such a broad and broken manner. I don't think we'll ever get levels and such here. But the more subliminal message about the SWG Pub9/CU/NGE/CH4 lessons is that when you betray your original game principles, you can't go back. No amount of fixes will draw those scorned back for more than a month.

It was a sandbox there, and it has been a sandbox here. But listening to the larger playerbase, the majority, and dropping basic principles of the game ...

You lose just 20k players (gaining 40k in return) through this sharding concept, and that's 20k players roaming other games and boards, telling how horrible EvE is, how bad it is. And another 10k still in game, complaining about the good old days and the CCP betrayal, steadily pushing new players away.

Your game doesn't recover from that.

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Granmethedon III

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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So in order to haul anything in high sec, noobs are expected to drop what they are training to train up Transports? {which are like a 2 month train}


edit: i meant high sec, not low....corrected.

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Who on earth wants to suicide gank a noob?

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"noob" was wording it badly. Another way to put it is in order to move things around in high sec, everyone should have Transports trained? I don't think that was the dev's intentions.

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Originally by: c4 t

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wow after reading what grey said about war deccing being pay to greif and then reading somebody say that what he described was exactly what mercs do i was deeply saddened.


**** i hope they dont ruin this game.

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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Originally by: Granmethedon III

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Originally by: Kelli Flay

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So in order to haul anything in high sec, noobs are expected to drop what they are training to train up Transports? {which are like a 2 month train}


edit: i meant high sec, not low....corrected.

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Who on earth wants to suicide gank a noob?

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"
"noob" was wording it badly. Another way to put it is in order to move things around in high sec, everyone should have Transports trained? I don't think that was the dev's intentions.

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