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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2156
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:45:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:You can always petition it under ToS 1:
Speaking of petitions, how did yours go after the Recruitment MOTD scandal? Sorry to tell you that any communications between CCP and a player are not to be published.
Haha you either got ignored or told off. Excellent. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
314
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:45:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Dude you delibaretly targeted ingame someone you where aware was mentally unstable.....
Really
Are you proud of the outcome as well and would do the same thing again ? Are we supposed to go out and get a psych evaluation for each person in-game before we blow up their ship? Keep in mind, the evemail that was published was sent from the miner to Mittens...it's not like we hacked this guy's computer.
SHUT UP WOMAN
ANSWER THE QUESTION HE WHO CALLS HIMSELF MINTANI
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
314
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:53:00 -
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Too late fool.........
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Lord Pestilence
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:55:00 -
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I was present at the alliance panel...and i must say that Mittani totally went overboard on this one.
If i remember correctly he stated: "If you really want this guy to kill himself, go send him a mail...his name is "insert name". ".
I didn-¦t have much respect for the man before that point...but a character that finds this acceptable and funny is irredeemable.
I know eve is all about getting those hatemails and tears which i love too...but pushing a guy with the intent to make him kill himself is just...wow.
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Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
628
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:56:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Forums hosts are considered 'publishing companies' under most countries laws , the same rules would apply as a public letter published in a newspaper.
Also this is one of the main reasons moderation is compulsory as publishing obsence images or selling of illegal goods/services are not looked upon kindly. The thing that stops any of these laws applying, ever, is that they are laughing at and posting mails from a *virtual character.* A virtual character said victimized person can simply disassociate from if he's too thin skinned. Nowhere in any law does it say you can't make up a name for someone and then publish bad things about said made up name. Also there is the fact everything was factually accurate and quoted so any semblance of libel is moot.
The law, however, does have certain things to say about broadcasting threats. Specifically, if someone were to send a threatening letter to the suicidal person in question as a result of that drunken stunt, the sender of that letter (and the people involved in encouraging its sending) is subject to Federal prosecution, which gets the FBI involved and creates a whole galaxy of trouble.
Wheter libel charges are valid or not, it's still under Federal jurisdiction if it's send via inter-state communication.
Personally, I think that encouraging someone to commit suicide is just plain sick. But that's just me. Monoclegate: because calling it 'Doorgate' would just be silly. |
Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
44
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:06:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Forums hosts are considered 'publishing companies' under most countries laws , the same rules would apply as a public letter published in a newspaper.
Also this is one of the main reasons moderation is compulsory as publishing obsence images or selling of illegal goods/services are not looked upon kindly. The thing that stops any of these laws applying, ever, is that they are laughing at and posting mails from a *virtual character.* A virtual character said victimized person can simply disassociate from if he's too thin skinned. Nowhere in any law does it say you can't make up a name for someone and then publish bad things about said made up name. Also there is the fact everything was factually accurate and quoted so any semblance of libel is moot. The law, however, does have certain things to say about broadcasting threats. Specifically, if someone were to send a threatening letter to the suicidal person in question as a result of that drunken stunt, the sender of that letter (and the people involved in encouraging its sending) is subject to Federal prosecution, which gets the FBI involved and creates a whole galaxy of trouble. Wheter libel charges are valid or not, it's still under Federal jurisdiction if it's send via inter-state communication. Personally, I think that encouraging someone to commit suicide is just plain sick. But that's just me.
Mittani for International terrorist?
Not watching any of this crap, but I though this was just more trolling.....
Unlikely there is anything actionable unless they used the guy's real name.
And to not expect the discribed behavior , from a person who aspires to be "King of a Video game" is somewhat naive....
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Kanexus
Blood Bond LLC New Eden Confederacy
5
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:12:00 -
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eve is a game...if someone wants to play it to relief themselves of some actual problems in the world whats wrong with that games is considered a stress relief along with many other things..
now if he wants to play eve as a stress relief and it worked but now people are harrassing him and posted his personal business online etc thats wrong. we are all gamers and all have issues it shouldnt be used to haze someone in real life...
on the flip side...eve is a big universe he could easily not involve himself with idiots and find nice people to play and talk to |
OT Smithers
Cult of Baal
124
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:13:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:
Do you realize how many people have threatened to punch goons at fanfest? It's almost a meme at this point.
But to address you point, no that would not be okay. Real life violence is actually a crime. Also, advocating for RL violence is a bannable offense in Eve Online.
Little head's up for you hon... other than the goons themselves, people don't really care all that much about you or your "elite" raid guild. I have never once heard anyone in game say even a single complimentary word about your skill. Like every other major null sec alliance you are known as carebears. You might be the KING of the carebears, I will give you that much, but I am not really sure that is anything to boast about.
Anyway, I am being nice because you obviously care a great deal about your guild and I don't want to hurt your feelings. Just tone it down.
As for the topic of this thread.... bullying is a real problem and suicide is a bigger one. This incident should be examined by CCP. They need to ensure that this guy is actually okay, and they need to have a little talk with the folks involved. Sometimes we take things too far. |
Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
780
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:16:00 -
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Cyclar
Rustbucket Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:27:00 -
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Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant?
Using your position and a public forum as the Fanfest Alliance Panel to ridicule other characters by name should be beneath you.
Most other players would properly get away with it without anybody raising an eyebrown. But being the CSM chair and having access to a very public platform as the Fanfest Alliance Panel, you should hold yourself to a higher standard. You properly know this, but are too arrogant to admit it.
With succes and power (and congrats to you on that by the way) often comes extreme arrogance. I guess you're it.
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Tam Althor
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
3
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:31:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:It's pretty funny that you have people watching a TV stream who have never been to Fanfest trying to wag their fingers and cluck as if this is Hello Kitty Online. This is EVE, and Fanfest is a drunken, shambolic revel - it always has been, if you've been to one.
Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself.
:) oh the drinking... none of this too early to drink **** at fanfest, show up grab a beer and listen to whats coming up in the game. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:38:00 -
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OT Smithers wrote:Little head's up for you hon... other than the goons themselves, people don't really care all that much about you or your "elite" raid guild.
All these wonderful threads about us say otherwise.
Quote:I have never once heard anyone in game say even a single complimentary word about your skill. Like every other major null sec alliance you are known as carebears. You might be the KING of the carebears, I will give you that much, but I am not really sure that is anything to boast about.
Yes, we care a great deal about how random pubbies view our skill level.
Quote:Anyway, I am being nice because you obviously care a great deal about your guild and I don't want to hurt your feelings. Just tone it down.
lol guild
Quote:As for the topic of this thread.... bullying is a real problem and suicide is a bigger one. This incident should be examined by CCP. They need to ensure that this guy is actually okay, and they need to have a little talk with the folks involved. Sometimes we take things too far.
It's not CCP's responsibility to ensure the mental health of every single person who logs in to their game.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:39:00 -
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Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant?
You have no idea.
Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1013
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:46:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant? You have no idea. Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself.
I have this image in my head of some 13 year old boy fapping three times a day to pictures of Mittani whenever I read one of your posts.
Make it stop, for the love of God!
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:48:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant? You have no idea. Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself. I have this image in my head of some 13 year old boy fapping three times a day to pictures of Mittani whenever I read one of your posts. Make it stop, for the love of God! Mr Epeen
Some people send fake threats of suicide and others sign their posts. Either way they can be safely disregarded.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:49:00 -
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Look at me, I'm posting a thread pretending to be indignant about something so that I can get "E-Rep"! Also I hate the Mittani watch me blow everything he says out of proportion in a comically over the top way! |
Lord Pestilence
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:54:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant? You have no idea. Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself.
So you feel he is entitled to do whatever he likes, with any amount of collateral damage, because was on the CSM when CCP was doing badly? |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:57:00 -
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So was the guy at fanfest or just people mocking him while they're at fan fest? Cause if he was there why not punch said dicks in the face? I mean that's the beauty of real life... Especially at fan fest, you would actually get the opportunity (might not be legal, but opportunity non the less) to punch internet though guys in the face. |
adopt
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
291
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Posted - 2012.03.25 19:58:00 -
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ITT: Buttmad politically correct morons who were obviously beaten as children. Most of the people in this thread are what's ruining the world with your "you can't do this because of feelings" or "that's mean". HTFU Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled.
FREE XOLVE ~ THE HERO TEST NEEDS |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
167
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:14:00 -
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adopt wrote:ITT: Buttmad politically correct morons who were obviously beaten as children. Most of the people in this thread are what's ruining the world with your "you can't do this because of feelings" or "that's mean". HTFU
No its not that. They're just doing it for fun. Not one of these people actually gives a **** about whatever is being discussed here. Pretending to take something seriously so that other folks will pay attention to them on the internet. Also taking digs at The Mittani because its super edgy! |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:19:00 -
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Lord Pestilence wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant? You have no idea. Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself. So you feel he is entitled to do whatever he likes, with any amount of collateral damage, because was on the CSM when CCP was doing badly?
No of course not. But he didn't do anything illegal or immoral. He made fun of some aspie miner and it was hilarious. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3398
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:21:00 -
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the dude just had this to say:
"I think if they are going to talk about someone at fanfest they should pay for them to go to fanfest :)" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Cyclar
Rustbucket Industries
1
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:21:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant? You have no idea. Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself.
Indeed he is. If you had quoted my entire post, you would have noticed that I congratulated him on just that. But feeling good about yourself is not the same as being arrogant.
Its the other way around mate. Being a succesful CSM chair is not a license to be arrogant on the public channels. Just the opposite. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3398
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:22:00 -
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Tell me more about being a successful CSM chair, Cyclar "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:23:00 -
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Cyclar wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant? You have no idea. Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself. Indeed he is. If you had quoted my entire post, you would have noticed that I congratulated him on just that. But feeling good about yourself is not the same as being arrogant. Its the other way around mate. Being a succesful CSM chair is not a license to be arrogant on the public channels. Just the opposite.
Mittens feeling good about himself is not the same thing as being arrogant like you keep insisting. And even if it was there's nothing wrong with being arrogant...you seem to think it's against the law or something.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Mukuro Gravedigger
Republic University Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:30:00 -
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Take away the game and how arrogant is Mittani as a person in real life? I am curious for curiosity sake is all since I never met him in real life. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
315
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:31:00 -
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No thats the real him according to him.. no RP involved
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2158
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:33:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:no RP involved
Not true. Mittens is a LARPer.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
315
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:36:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:no RP involved Not true. Mittens is a LARPer.
Thats not what he says..... would you like me to search his posts and quote your Fuhrer to you?
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Lord Pestilence
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.03.25 20:44:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Lord Pestilence wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Cyclar wrote:Mittani, could you possibly be more arrogant? You have no idea. Then again he did lead the most effective and successful CSM in history so maybe he's entitled to feel good about himself. So you feel he is entitled to do whatever he likes, with any amount of collateral damage, because was on the CSM when CCP was doing badly? No of course not. But he didn't do anything illegal or immoral. He made fun of some aspie miner and it was hilarious.
Do you even know what immoral means?
Just to remind you about what he said:
From memory it was: "If you really want this guy to kill himself, go send him a mail...his name is "insert name". ".
How can you not find this immoral? |
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