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Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:59:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself.
You're confusing in-game grief with RL grief.
That reflects a serious error in judgment on your part. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2012.03.27 06:11:00 -
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Regarding whether Mitten's behavior was acceptable, it does not matter if the guy really meant to off himself or if he does that. It also does not matter if Mittani really wanted him to die or not. His using his reputation and the Fanfest event to call for the harassment of an individual player would have been out of line even if the guy had never mentioned anything beyond not particularly liking being harassed by Goonies. Most bullying is meant as a joke by the bully. That does not make it alright.
The outrage is not about pity towards someone who has trouble dealing with Goonies in the game. The outrage is about someone abusing a position of trust to "play" against other players in such a way that is intended to cause bad feelings. |
Producilla
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.27 06:51:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:deal with it~
Sounds you need some quality time in Alaska to figure a few things out in life
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WarriorKoragg
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:48:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Andski wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Andski wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:In another PVP MMO I play, GMs took very permanently serious account decisions when similar situations happened.
Being psychologically weak to the point of risking suicide is not a joke, I had a guild mate (in that MMO) committing suicide just 2 months ago. It was not pretty.
There should be a thresold where being a d!ck in EvE should stop.
Sad to see some don't. I suppose it's the same group claiming that they RP being a d!ck in EvE but are the perfect man IRL. okay I'll pretend to be depressed so that anybody who violences my ships gets banned from the game Cool jokes about peoples dead freinds.. sure your ma's very proud of you fella If you're "psychologically weak to the point of risking suicide" you should not be playing EVE, period. Why exactly , high sec is a very peaceful and calming place, you ,as all you PVP addicts, seem to think evrbody plays the same way as you and you need to be some intraweebs tough guy (RE Goons - Hard men are you? yes? no your pathetic bullies) , get over it you fool.
Well ,it seems they completely forgotten about Hi-Sec and players in it,because they focused for one objective that they cannot obtain in real life mostly.People can have fun with PVP i aggree with that because game allows that,when you kill someone in-game it feels like you are powerful but if that enjoyment turns into an addiction,it's a real problem.Because they have not seen a war,fight or any kind of REAL violence in their real life,so they cant know the meaning of some words and values belongs to real life.Mittens is a true evidence of that,because if you are getting drunk you should stop drinking |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:19:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:See the thread Fanfest Alliance Panel Disgusting.
See in particular post #68, in which someone's in game eve mail is posted to the forums.
If this is what these people actually did and said at the panel, this is so totally disgusting and sadistic that it can't be accepted.
I don't care about what happens in the game, since I can't do anything about it.
Holding someone up to PUBLIC ridicule in real life and following it up by encouraging people to continue this behavior on the forums, by posting the guy's eve mail to the forums, is not acceptable behavior by a human being.
You should read the thread if you want background. The quick version is that this person was apparently very rich in the tears that these plays love so much. He is referred to as depressed and suicidal. If the thread is accurate, our CSM chair encouraged people to get in touch with this guy and harass him further and gave out his name at the panel. Someone followed this up by posting one of the guy's eve mails to the forums.
These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted. deal with it~
What I like here is how he says later he didnt know what people were talking about. Yet right there in the post he responded too is what he claims he didnt know.
He is a liar at this point.
A person that called for others to drive someone to death. And inciter of violence.
Im drunk and it was just a joke dont fly. Cause others might have taken it as gospel. Especially in the face of the illogical goon fanaticism we are seeing that support murder as just another laugh to be had. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:21:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Regarding whether Mitten's behavior was acceptable, it does not matter if the guy really meant to off himself or if he does that. It also does not matter if Mittani really wanted him to die or not. His using his reputation and the Fanfest event to call for the harassment of an individual player would have been out of line even if the guy had never mentioned anything beyond not particularly liking being harassed by Goonies. Most bullying is meant as a joke by the bully. That does not make it alright.
The outrage is not about pity towards someone who has trouble dealing with Goonies in the game. The outrage is about someone abusing a position of trust to "play" against other players in such a way that is intended to cause bad feelings.
Read this goons.
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Sirion Fujiwara
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:29:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:See the thread Fanfest Alliance Panel Disgusting.
See in particular post #68, in which someone's in game eve mail is posted to the forums.
If this is what these people actually did and said at the panel, this is so totally disgusting and sadistic that it can't be accepted.
I don't care about what happens in the game, since I can't do anything about it.
Holding someone up to PUBLIC ridicule in real life and following it up by encouraging people to continue this behavior on the forums, by posting the guy's eve mail to the forums, is not acceptable behavior by a human being.
You should read the thread if you want background. The quick version is that this person was apparently very rich in the tears that these plays love so much. He is referred to as depressed and suicidal. If the thread is accurate, our CSM chair encouraged people to get in touch with this guy and harass him further and gave out his name at the panel. Someone followed this up by posting one of the guy's eve mails to the forums.
These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted. deal with it~
Guess you changed your tune a bit didn't you? Lol! I feel sorry for you. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:48:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:PUBLIC ridicule in real life [...] eve mail to the forums There is your contradiction. Kids have to be protected from bullies in school because they are force to go to this dreadful place by law. Folk have to be protected from mobbing in the office because they are forced by society to go to this dreadful place. Nobody is forced to play EVE. And if you send an eve mail to a goon that can be used against you, you deserve to be taught a lesson.
Nobody is forced to live.. Well there are some laws against self-harm/suicide.. But what they gonna do ressurect you and send you to prison ???
Your argument is invalid.
Either way, if i agree with someone behaviour or not is my own damn thing. And your stance is yours. If you are willing to encourage suicide fine. But dont try to discuss an "moral" stance about such. Sure morals differs by the region/environment you live.
Live itself is meaningless, that is well known fact. Price on life is ZERO. Still people seems to prefer living, why i dont know, and i dont care i let them live, not that i actually can do something about that, mind you. But still.
His show was pathetic but it was an show. So assuming he was an actor/director whatever of his own show i cant make charges against his acting. Sure some people find it too troubling that something like that happens, but common its out there on daily basis, be it in game or in life. You either ignore it or you try to prove your "moral" superiority by voicing your opinion. In the end it is just opinion and it is not yours. You are inclined in such, but fact is your views has been created, and because you dont have to questions such morals you gonna stick with them. If you try to question it you will come to simple conclusion. It is not worth it. Life is not worth living. Everythign which ever lived, die. Everything which ever been built, will crumble, There is no future, There is no past, And the presence is just your abstraction of "given" perception of "reality".
Well if it does not make any sense, good for you. |
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