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Klavis lychnuchus
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Posted - 2008.09.04 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Klavis lychnuchus on 04/09/2008 13:20:22
 Originally by: Derek Sigres
ZP has an odd quirk about it. While Yahtzee is certainly cynical in his approach to gaming and tends to err on the side of what a game does wrong rather than what it does right he's almost invariably correct. The aspect of Eve that he experienced - the single player PvE aspect is undeiniably terrible...
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Every single thing the man said about Eve is entirely accurate. All of his gripes are serious concerns that ought to be addressed at some point...
QFT! This guy speaks sense. The Pve system that currently exists within eve IS hopelessly and irredeemably boring, frustratingly so. The reward, if you can deal with the pain of boredom strangely leads to a kind of bloody minded satisfaction. Satisfaction that after six straight hours you have made maybe 300 Million isk ratting, missioning or whatever. Satisfaction that after months of waiting you have that skill or item. Satisfaction that at last you can use some of those painted wonders in the window of the ****ensian toymaker that I've had my nose pressed up against the window for... for yonkers! 
Taunting gits!
But it brings me to this:
Originally by: Gojyu
Ironically, I'm reminded of a point brought up by yahtzee in his halo 3 review. A good game doesn't need to make excuses. If you've got "a good game once you get through all the bad bits" you haven't got a good game, you've got a mediocre game with good aspects weighed down with crap
More truth but it also pretty much manages to describe every other MMO out there, including Eve. None of them has really achieved anything better... yet.
Meanwhile I'll play Eve because it has spaceships and I can blow stuff up and it's the best example of a sci-fi space MMO to date and I kinda like the frustratingly slow pace, despite myself.
So until something 'better' comes along, I'll see you out there.
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HenkieBoy
Enrave
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.04 13:36:00 -
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Well.. most players don't agree with the review BUT they should ask themselfs, what are we (and CCP) doing wrong that gives out that impression? If this is the impression he had of EVE that means alot of new players have the same impression and stop playing it after the trial.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.04 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: HenkieBoy
Well.. most players don't agree with the review BUT they should ask themselfs, what are we (and CCP) doing wrong that gives out that impression? If this is the impression he had of EVE that means alot of new players have the same impression and stop playing it after the trial.
That is because EVE is not the game they are looking for.
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Vayn Baxtor
Fighting While Intoxicated
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Posted - 2008.09.04 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Edited by: Terianna Eri on 03/09/2008 16:46:39
I liked the bestower shooting the dominix.
I liked the dominix... shooting from it's ARSE!  |
Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Revelation Space
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Posted - 2008.09.04 14:28:00 -
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That was a funny review, and if it not been about EVE, I may have managed to laugh.
I did find his insulting sterotypes of the EVE playerbase (whiners notwithstanding, we do whine a lot) as super nerds wrong. Although my missus says she does like EVE, but she finds it too complicated.
I always leave it at that but silently think what's complciated about it? Read about the skills, plan them in EVEmon... then undock, target... F1, F2, F3, F4 etc
How can being in range be complicated? In wow if you're out of range, you cannot hit your target. It's pretty much the same whereever you go.
To say you're avoiding player coprs like the plague... well what is the point of playing a MMO if you're going to avoid player interaction? What would people say if he slammed WoW cos the PVE at level 70 was dull and he didn't want to group to raid Molten Core (or whatever level you can grind to in 14 days)?
It's typical British pseudo humerous cynicism with a light sprinkling of factual fail 
Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |
JadeMotoko
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.04 15:00:00 -
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...and wtf is Tactical Logistics Configuration? lmao.
Oh God, one of his best reviews yet.
-The more you know the shorter your life gets-
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Elrca
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.04 15:06:00 -
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This is the most acurate review about EvE .....
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JadeMotoko
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.04 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: HenkiBoy
Well.. most players don't agree with the review BUT they should ask themselfs, what are we (and CCP) doing wrong that gives out that impression? If this is the impression he had of EVE that means alot of new players have the same impression and stop playing it after the trial.
Oh and CCP, nor anyone else for that matter should take this review seriously, after all, Yahtzee claims almost all the games he has reviewed a shit (with the acception of Portal) becuase people wanna hear it, and it keeps people watching. True EVE has a learning curve but it is not stopping new players joining and loving the game as much as die hard players...Some people were just born with the WoW gene, as much as we hate them we shouldn't. After all you wouldn't hate a kid in a wheelchair.
-The more you know the shorter your life gets-
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.04 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: JadeMotoko
Originally by: HenkiBoy
Well.. most players don't agree with the review BUT they should ask themselfs, what are we (and CCP) doing wrong that gives out that impression? If this is the impression he had of EVE that means alot of new players have the same impression and stop playing it after the trial.
Oh and CCP, nor anyone else for that matter should take this review seriously, after all, Yahtzee claims almost all the games he has reviewed a shit (with the acception of Portal) becuase people wanna hear it, and it keeps people watching. True EVE has a learning curve but it is not stopping new players joining and loving the game as much as die hard players...Some people were just born with the WoW gene, as much as we hate them we shouldn't. After all you wouldn't hate a kid in a wheelchair.
Kids in wheelchairs are the best ones to hate. After all, hey, what are they gonna do?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Diarrhea Aguilera
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Diarrhea Aguilera on 04/09/2008 16:23:53
Originally by: Malcanis
Kids in wheelchairs are the best ones to hate. After all, hey, what are they gonna do?
Kick your shin? Oh wait...
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kwa Kaine
He pretty much hit the nail on the head tbh.
This.
To be honest though, he spent 14 days making money and avoiding what the game was completely about (PvP, if you haven't heard) - so, its an incomplete review at best  .
However, who was the idiot that suggested he review us and not tell him to ignore the boring shit and get into combat? *smack*
Football? Hell yes. |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:42:00 -
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Ahahaha, love it
CCP, whenever you think about going mainstream, 'cause you managed to get 50k players addicted enough to start up 2 or 3 alt accounts, watch this and think again
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Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:53:00 -
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Personally, I find that Yahtzee hits the nail on the head when it comes to faults, but where he is *****ing like it's the end of the world, I accept the faults as annoying, but continue to enjoy the game (Ninja Gaiden 2 f.ex).
Anyway, if this review sways people to not sign up then that's probably a good thing. We don't want or need people like that (or more of them anyway ).
As a corp mate of mine said: "He just doesn't get EVE"
And as for if I restarted the game as a new character, I'd still stick it out, as the game is still as it was described to me. Pretty much an MMO version of Elite (For those old enough to have played or even know what Elite was).
Akkarin
I don't mean to sound bitter and twisted, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Sylvie Giovanni
It's hilarious that the developers of the game are endorsing the video, just wow :)
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not agreeing with most of what was said - and consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun, in my experience. Doesn't stop it being funny though, which is what it's for, right?
Yep, humor is the entire purpose of his reviews (I hope). Any gamer who actually makes their decision based on his reviews doesn't deserve to be called a gamer.
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BloodyWomble
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Posted - 2008.09.04 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: BloodyWomble on 04/09/2008 18:33:56
English pompous ***** says some stuff he truly know nothing about supposedly
derived from a 14 day trial.
And no its not becasue he is hitting nails on the head or pointing out awful truths
about the game we so much enjoy.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and that is all I heard.
Michael moores love child ?
To the idiots who said they love his review, Do you aactually agree with the content and if so
why are you still playing the game ?
Or perhaps you get tittalated by a not so well spoken english ***** mixing swears words
into every sentance to force a nonesensical rant.
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: BloodyWomble
To the idiots who said they love his review, Do you actually agree with the content and if so
why are you still playing the game ?
I don't love his review but I think he has some good points. EVE has problems with UI, learning curve, lack of documentation, lag (not everything was mentioned in review). You can't deny it. Heck, even dev's don't deny this.
Fortunately EVE has a lot to offer a player so we still love and play this game. Yahtzee failed to spot those things because he didn't comit to game. He played a week or so, didn't leave NPC corp.
Of course he also got some things completely wrong. Real time skill system in EVE is a lot better than levelling in WoW.
I am happy developers didn't take his review too seriously. You guys are doing good job. Just keep pushing and fix the bugs.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Evil Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:42:00 -
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lol
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Rufus Ionone
Caldari
Disturbing Creations Laboratories Ltd
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:50:00 -
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In the comments section for the video I found a lot of people who took the review seriously and decided that, on Yahtzee's say-so, EVE was thorughly bad.
I seriously love yahtzee but, honestly, who in their right mind would ever take him seriously?
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Niko medes
Gallente
Dark Dominion
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:56:00 -
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lol what a AMAZING REVIEW.
Though i disagree just bc I think eve is awesome. He is so damn right about alot of things lol..
though he did make the mistake to not join a player owned corp and only shot npcs.
A prime example of a true carebear.
Dark Dominion |
s33ker
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:20:00 -
[170]
TBH I'm offended by this guy... not because of what he's saying... that part is all good and true... rather because he thinks he can just come out and say, after a 14 day trial, what I have spent 3 years figuring out... 
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Minami Sayuri
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:33:00 -
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As much as I love EVE, that was the brutal truth... ^^;;
Thought it may be the truth, I'm going to keep playing EVE and keep kicking those NPC's in the shins.
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TimMc
Gallente
SolaR KillerS
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Posted - 2008.09.05 14:05:00 -
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Going to try to make a quote-worthy statement here...
FPS games are Kill Bill
World of Warcraft is Lord of the Rings movies
and Eve Online is Citizen Kane
Most people want their wasted time back, but those who get it claim it to be the best.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.05 14:09:00 -
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I actually find that while his reviews are over the top in style, I would agree with a more serious restatement of almost every one of the ones which are on games I have played.
I would trust his reviews over most the crap on the Internet, accounting for his style of course.
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mishkof
Caldari
Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.09.05 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: mishkof on 05/09/2008 14:39:23
His reviews are entertainment, and they are entertaining.
His opinions however, are to be taken with a grain of salt.
He reviewed Halo 3 and purposely left out the multiplayer portion of it...umm yeah; it will get bad reviews if you do that.
Again, not participating in player run corps cuts you off from a sizable portion of the game.
He is right about a lot of things however, mainly if you have no direction then the game(Eve) is EXTREMELY boring.
I own a T2 BPO and Capital alt, therefor all of my views will be pro-Capital Alt/T2 BPO orientated. Please pick one of the following settings for your response.
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Lord Regulus
Aurora Acclivitous
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.05 15:10:00 -
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Well, I can't really find a logical flaw in anything he said. I've often felt like the only reason I play Eve instead of, I don't know, making actual, real-life money is that I'm a goddamn idiot (when asked what it was all about at PAX, I replied "Eve is BDSM in space. Eve will swallow you whole, s**t you out and sell you for a pack of smokes, and you will come crawling back because you like it.").
Sure, opting out of a player corp is like showing up at an orgy and sitting in the corner the whole time, but then again, no one wants that many STDs (metaphorically, in this case, the responsibilities of corp membership...? Or would that be the equivalent of getting some chick knocked up? And do I have to sleep with my corpmates?). Glorified social-networking chat client edition of Excel in space, now with added pixel shaders, anyone?
Plus, my understanding is that Croshaw's a Goon, so brownie points for going against the grain on that one.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.05 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Regulus
Edited by: Lord Regulus on 05/09/2008 15:19:56
Well, I can't really find a logical flaw in anything he said. I've often felt like the only reason I play Eve instead of, I don't know, making actual, real-life money is that I'm a goddamn idiot (when asked what it was all about at PAX, I replied "Eve is BDSM in space. Eve will swallow you whole, s**t you out and sell you for a pack of smokes, and you will come crawling back because you like it.").
Sure, opting out of a player corp is like showing up at an orgy and sitting in the corner the whole time, but then again, no one wants that much VD (metaphorically, in this case, the responsibilities of corp membership...? Or would that be the equivalent of getting some chick knocked up? And do I have to sleep with my corpmates to complete the analogy?). Glorified social-networking chat client edition of Excel in space, now with added pixel shaders, anyone?
Plus, my understanding is that Croshaw's a Goon, so brownie points for going against the grain on that one.
On a scale from one to sauce, this review is f**king ravioli. 26 out of 10, would watch again.
If I was allowed to use missile launchers in real life I wouldn't play EvE.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
5pinDizzy
Amarr
Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.09.05 16:33:00 -
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Better Review that made me laugh harder when I saw it to be honest.
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Joxxy
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Posted - 2008.09.05 19:51:00 -
[178]
I simply love his reviews !
If you bother to watch Smash Mario Bros ( or whatever its called ) that he did and reply to hate mail he did 2 weeks later the man himself stated - Im a critic, its my job.
That being said - I loved the review
They are allaways funny a full of PWNAGE and WIN !
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Huggs
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.09.05 20:11:00 -
[179]
Great review!
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JackTheRipper21
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Posted - 2008.09.06 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: JackTheRipper21 on 06/09/2008 05:09:31
lol it looks like EVE took its ad off the Escapist Site
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