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Sugar Von MurdererTits Shameless Suicidal Space Barbies 22	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:20:00 - [4411] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Aurora B wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Perhaps those who voted for mittens should be allowed to transfer their votes to the other candidates who stood for the CSM. Eh why? Because it would remove the main plank of the Goons - we have been disenfranchied - complaint, and for the simple reason that it would help give CSM7 more legitimacy. It was Mittens who made a tt of himself in Iceland, (and has been rightly punished) not those who voted for him. The second place winner was a goon alt. Probably half of the rest were as well. The CSM is ***** to be honest. Won't bother voting next year.
Starcaller Dredg 1st Contact Fade 2 Black 9	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:22:00 - [4412] - Quote Anthemius Heb wrote: I didn't read the apology because a few days ago in the thread complaining about his actions he said "deal with it". This was on the first page of the thread when only a handful of people had posted. Now it's become clear that a lot of people are seriously pissed off about his actions his stance on the issue seems to have changed dramatically from "Deal with it" to "I'm ashamed of my actions, i soooooooo sorry". Was it an attack of conscience that made him apologize or was it the realization that so many people were pissed off it might start to affect his chances of remaining head of the CSM and therefore his direct line to influencing CCP's game decisions for the benefit of his friends but at the expense of everybody else? His mentality has been prevalent for a long time. The goons think they are invincible because we allow them to be. http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down to benefit Goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face.
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 152	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:22:00 - [4413] - Quote Anthemius Heb wrote: I didn't read the apology because a few days ago in the thread complaining about his actions he said "deal with it". This was on the first page of the thread when only a handful of people had posted. Now it's become clear that a lot of people are seriously pissed off about his actions his stance on the issue seems to have changed dramatically from "Deal with it" to "I'm ashamed of my actions, i soooooooo sorry". Was it an attack of conscience that made him apologize or was it the realization that so many people were pissed off it might start to affect his chances of remaining head of the CSM and therefore his direct line to influencing CCP's game decisions for the benefit of his friends but at the expense of everybody else? Also he attacked NPC Alts like myself! The outrage!
Sugar Von MurdererTits Shameless Suicidal Space Barbies 22	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:24:00 - [4414] - Quote Jake Warbird wrote: Also he attacked NPC Alts like myself! The outrage! Your face fascinates me.
Anthemius Heb Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:25:00 - [4415] - Quote Jake Warbird wrote: Anthemius Heb wrote: I didn't read the apology because a few days ago in the thread complaining about his actions he said "deal with it". This was on the first page of the thread when only a handful of people had posted. Now it's become clear that a lot of people are seriously pissed off about his actions his stance on the issue seems to have changed dramatically from "Deal with it" to "I'm ashamed of my actions, i soooooooo sorry". Was it an attack of conscience that made him apologize or was it the realization that so many people were pissed off it might start to affect his chances of remaining head of the CSM and therefore his direct line to influencing CCP's game decisions for the benefit of his friends but at the expense of everybody else? Also he attacked NPC Alts like myself! The outrage! I'm not an NPC alt. This is my only character.
Vampir Draken Street Birds 2	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:27:00 - [4416] - Quote I think the worst or best thing Mittens did here was to demonstrate why other, much more financially successful MMO's don't have a comparable players panel like the CSM Why would I expect the CSM, comprised mainly of those who think miners and industrialists in game are meant to be harassed, bashed and disenfranchised of their own way of playing in the sandbox, to fairly represent all players. Despite many players of the game claiming it is a PVP game it isn't solely that It is as described by CCP a sandbox, that includes PVE and PVP elements. Forcing someone in that sandbox to play the PVP game when they don't wish to is not allowing that PVE player to play in the sandbox the way they wish to CCP run the game and they decide what is going to be or not going to be. These public statements by Mittens have exposed a dark and nasty part of EVE to the spotlight of publicity that can only in my opinion result in the dissolution of the CSM or a loss of future business for CCP Players cannot completely separate their own personalities from the characters they play in game and Mittens has just shown that rather graphically. Either they bring their character personality into RL or they bring their RL character into the game, either way there is a mixture Problem is newer players (hate that noob term, its used as an insult most the time) and prospective new players see this dark side bought out in this way and instead of them being gentled into the game and perhaps later enjoying either the PVE or PVP side, its to hell with that its too ugly I play a MMO to have fun not to be insulted and told to commit suicide. He has told my RL person on twitter to commit suicide and die and I feel that by posting comments like that on twitter even using The Mittani persona he is stepping outside the game into a public arena also, which is why I think this apology is just to save his own ass and that he is insincere. I just gave him back as good as, but I was aware that more sensitive people could have been disturbed by the comments To believe Mittens apology genuine I will have to wait for his return and see if he, as Mittens, moderates his behaviour. But in his own words it is the character he plays that way so I doubt that will happen. So I feel I will continue to believe that his rl person plays out a dark side in game that although hidden perhaps in RL does break through occasionally and is a real part of his RL life
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 152	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:31:00 - [4417] - Quote Anthemius Heb wrote: Jake Warbird wrote: Anthemius Heb wrote: I didn't read the apology because a few days ago in the thread complaining about his actions he said "deal with it". This was on the first page of the thread when only a handful of people had posted. Now it's become clear that a lot of people are seriously pissed off about his actions his stance on the issue seems to have changed dramatically from "Deal with it" to "I'm ashamed of my actions, i soooooooo sorry". Was it an attack of conscience that made him apologize or was it the realization that so many people were pissed off it might start to affect his chances of remaining head of the CSM and therefore his direct line to influencing CCP's game decisions for the benefit of his friends but at the expense of everybody else? Also he attacked NPC Alts like myself! The outrage! I'm not an NPC alt. This is my only character. I meant myself Ofc. Also Sugar,m blushing can you tell?
Velyks Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 6	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:31:00 - [4418] - Quote Starcaller Dredg wrote: http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. Run the Goons out of EVE. The problem with people like you is that you're so jaded on the entire subject that no matter what action he took you wouldn't be satisfied with it. "How dare he simply refuse the chair, he should be kicked off the whole CSM!" "How dare he give up his CSM seat, he should be removed from the game!" "How dare he only remove himself from the game, all of goonswarm should be removed!" ^ You Edit: Page 221 snipz http://i.imgur.com/JyLjl.jpg
Cailais Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance 248	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:34:00 - [4419] - Quote Enyeto Perah wrote: Starcaller Dredg wrote: http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. Run the Goons out of EVE. THIS should be spread! What this business demonstrates is what happens when one psychologically troubled player (the mackinaw player) impacts with another equally troubled player (Alex Gianturco). What is abundantly clear is that Alex is having extreme difficulty differentiating his real life self from his alter ego virtual persona. It is deeply disturbing (to me at least) to see someone who is essentially suffering from what appears to be a form of a mental health disorder - a personality disorder specifically. I would be interested in what plans CCP have to help or offer advice on what support players can receive who are in this unfortunate state of well being. That's not to say that I believe that CCP have an obligation to directly provide such support but alerting players to potential sources of advice would be a 'good thing'. Im equally surprised that those at CCP did not recognise earlier the signs that Alex Gianturco could well be suffering from an over exposure to EVE Online as a product. Immersion is all well and good but in this instance the ramifications of two players both with significant issues with respect to their perception of what is 'real' and has value have been far reaching. I would hope that those who know Alex well, and who count themselves as his friends, will council him to at the very least take a break from EVE and to get a fresh perspective on who he is. C.
Enyeto Perah 3	Posted - 2012.03.29 09:41:00 - [4420] - Quote Cailais wrote: Enyeto Perah wrote: Starcaller Dredg wrote: http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. Run the Goons out of EVE. THIS should be spread! What this business demonstrates is what happens when one psychologically troubled player (the mackinaw player) impacts with another equally troubled player (Alex Gianturco). What is abundantly clear is that Alex is having extreme difficulty differentiating his real life self from his alter ego virtual persona. It is deeply disturbing (to me at least) to see someone who is essentially suffering from what appears to be a form of a mental health disorder - a personality disorder specifically. I would be interested in what plans CCP have to help or offer advice on what support players can receive who are in this unfortunate state of well being. That's not to say that I believe that CCP have an obligation to directly provide such support but alerting players to potential sources of advice would be a 'good thing'. Im equally surprised that those at CCP did not recognise earlier the signs that Alex Gianturco could well be suffering from an over exposure to EVE Online as a product. Immersion is all well and good but in this instance the ramifications of two players both with significant issues with respect to their perception of what is 'real' and has value have been far reaching. I would hope that those who know Alex well, and who count themselves as his friends, will council him to at the very least take a break from EVE and to get a fresh perspective on who he is. C. THIS IS THE BIGGEST BULL I EVER READ! cry troubled player cry F U! RPing?! YEAH SURE... FAMOUS Pooswarrm RP Corp... So what you say is that its CCP's fault and that Mittany is free of any guilt, and that the mackinaw player just should have stayed away from EVE? is THAT it?! WOW... I wonder how many other stupid MORONS are out there... But I am sure, Alex be grateful for your ass kissing...
Beckett Firesnake ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation 4	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:02:00 - [4421] - Quote I hope you are fine Mittany. It was really too much ;-) Like a lot of members of ICE I voted for you. If there were new elections today, I think I would vote for you again.
Enyeto Perah 4	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:03:00 - [4422] - Quote Beckett Firesnake wrote: I hope you are fine Mittany. It was really too much ;-) Like a lot of members of ICE I voted for you. If there were new elections today, I think I would vote for you again. Sure you would... poo sticks with poo
Velyks Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 6	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:06:00 - [4423] - Quote Vampir Draken wrote: I think the worst or best thing Mittens did here was to demonstrate why other, much more financially successful MMO's don't have a comparable players panel like the CSM Why would I expect the CSM, comprised mainly of those who think miners and industrialists in game are meant to be harassed, bashed and disenfranchised of their own way of playing in the sandbox, to fairly represent all players. Despite many players of the game claiming it is a PVP game it isn't solely that It is as described by CCP a sandbox, that includes PVE and PVP elements. Forcing someone in that sandbox to play the PVP game when they don't wish to is not allowing that PVE player to play in the sandbox the way they wish to. He doesn't care if you're a miner or an industralist, he'll harass you as long as you're not blue to him. Its just the miners and industralists like to whine because they can't be bothered or are unwilling to learn how to fight back. As described by CCP, a sandbox means anyone can do anything within the bounds of the game, if you don't like that someones come and kicked over your sandcastle you can either pick up your plastic spade and storm off, or you can throw it at the back of his smug head and do something about it. http://i.imgur.com/JyLjl.jpg
Miranda Etxebarria Hedion University Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:21:00 - [4424] - Quote Kajurei Delainen wrote: I'll admit I watched The Mittani at FanFest CSM panel with disgust - he's a total douche bag. I'm not in his alliance, so I don't follow him. Listening to Mittani on mumble comms tonight, reinforced that Mittani is not a person worth following. Instead of listening to those that told him he is wrong in his personal behavior and treatment of others, firing him from the CSM panel and banning him from the game. He instead makes the decision to lash out at the game, and orders his alliance to attack players in Jita. His actions could cause people to quit eve, as they would think that CCP would allow the game to spiral out of control and allow hundreds of players to destroy everything within reach in the trade hub. If people quit the game - we won't have a game to play, hurting all of us. It's self-destructive behavior - he destroyed his reputation, hurt the reputations of the CSM and CCP, and now looks to hurt the reputation of his own alliance. All of it because he advocated destroying a person through harrassing him to commit suicide. It's not funny, it never was. Don't follow someone off a cliff - as his actions are clearly self-destructive. The Mittani should quit eve, not out of rage, but out of guilt. Goonswarm started playing eve with the intent to wreck it, and they have, just like they did in the last game they set out to wreck. The Mittani has wrecked Eve-online's reputation with his vulgar displays on broadcast TV. He has nothing to be proud of, nothing to show for his self-destructive behavior, absolutely nothing, and will be missed by no one. Are you kidding me? Was the alliance panel awful? Sure. Should The Mittani be punished for his behavior? No doubt. Was his apology sincere? Don't know, don't care. But here you are, in a thread about TOS/EULA violations, already pissing and moaning about perfectly valid in-game behavior. Wait, let me rephrase that, about behavior that makes this game unique among dozens of generic MMO's. So, Mittens threatens to destroy Jita, a hub in high-sec, protected by CONCORD, sec-status hits and used by most pilots in the goddamn game? Then why don't you, rather than whine about people quitting the game, plan to do something about it? I don't have any business with GSF or The Mittani. In fact, I'm a Jita trader, so I stand to lose significantly from any action against the hub. Still, reading some of the comments of people who try to link the alliance panel debacle to perfectly norman (and exciting) in-game behavior makes me an embarrased carebear.
Zora'e Nasty Pope 0	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:22:00 - [4425] - Quote Never been much of a Fan of Goons, or any of the other major alliances to be honest. Read this story and my first thought was "dude was wasted, he had to be to say something so messed up". Hey... We all say stupid garbage when we're drunk, however, it doesn't really excuse the behavior because as adults we have to take responsibility for what we do sober or otherwise. That you realized this and took the actions you have, is commendable. I may not agree with game politics, I may even personally think people who take internet spaceships so seriously (even myself when I do it) are being stupidly silly. It's when we cross that fine line between making in game moves against someone or something and start pulling it into the real world and looking for or suggesting real world results from them that we need to step back and take a breath or six (i've done that a few times). Looks to me like you are doing this. That's good enough for me. In EVE Online...-á-áA Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e
Cailais Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance 249	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:29:00 - [4426] - Quote Enyeto Perah wrote: Cailais wrote: Enyeto Perah wrote: Starcaller Dredg wrote: http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. Run the Goons out of EVE. THIS should be spread! What this business demonstrates is what happens when one psychologically troubled player (the mackinaw player) impacts with another equally troubled player (Alex Gianturco). What is abundantly clear is that Alex is having extreme difficulty differentiating his real life self from his alter ego virtual persona. It is deeply disturbing (to me at least) to see someone who is essentially suffering from what appears to be a form of a mental health disorder - a personality disorder specifically. I would be interested in what plans CCP have to help or offer advice on what support players can receive who are in this unfortunate state of well being. That's not to say that I believe that CCP have an obligation to directly provide such support but alerting players to potential sources of advice would be a 'good thing'. Im equally surprised that those at CCP did not recognise earlier the signs that Alex Gianturco could well be suffering from an over exposure to EVE Online as a product. Immersion is all well and good but in this instance the ramifications of two players both with significant issues with respect to their perception of what is 'real' and has value have been far reaching. I would hope that those who know Alex well, and who count themselves as his friends, will council him to at the very least take a break from EVE and to get a fresh perspective on who he is. C. THIS IS THE BIGGEST BULL I EVER READ! cry troubled player cry F U! RPing?! YEAH SURE... FAMOUS Pooswarrm RP Corp... So what you say is that its CCP's fault and that Mittany is free of any guilt, and that the mackinaw player just should have stayed away from EVE? is THAT it?! WOW... I wonder how many other stupid MORONS are out there... But I am sure, Alex be grateful for your ass kissing... No, Im not saying that it is CCPs fault, or that Alex Gianturco is free of any guilt. What I am saying is that this entire storm resulted from the interaction between two players who, as far as we can judge, cant distinguish clearly between reality and an online game of pixels. C.
Isabella300 FinFleet Raiden. 6	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:30:00 - [4427] - Quote Enyeto Perah wrote: Cailais wrote: Enyeto Perah wrote: Starcaller Dredg wrote: http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. Run the Goons out of EVE. THIS should be spread! What this business demonstrates is what happens when one psychologically troubled player (the mackinaw player) impacts with another equally troubled player (Alex Gianturco). What is abundantly clear is that Alex is having extreme difficulty differentiating his real life self from his alter ego virtual persona. It is deeply disturbing (to me at least) to see someone who is essentially suffering from what appears to be a form of a mental health disorder - a personality disorder specifically. I would be interested in what plans CCP have to help or offer advice on what support players can receive who are in this unfortunate state of well being. That's not to say that I believe that CCP have an obligation to directly provide such support but alerting players to potential sources of advice would be a 'good thing'. Im equally surprised that those at CCP did not recognise earlier the signs that Alex Gianturco could well be suffering from an over exposure to EVE Online as a product. Immersion is all well and good but in this instance the ramifications of two players both with significant issues with respect to their perception of what is 'real' and has value have been far reaching. I would hope that those who know Alex well, and who count themselves as his friends, will council him to at the very least take a break from EVE and to get a fresh perspective on who he is. C. THIS IS THE BIGGEST BULL I EVER READ! cry troubled player cry F U! RPing?! YEAH SURE... FAMOUS Pooswarrm RP Corp... So what you say is that its CCP's fault and that Mittany is free of any guilt, and that the mackinaw player just should have stayed away from EVE? is THAT it?! WOW... I wonder how many other stupid MORONS are out there... But I am sure, Alex be grateful for your ass kissing... Ass kissing ? .. you didn't really understand a single word he wrote did u ?! Please read again and ask for translation if you dont know the meaning of his words.
Jita Alt666 975	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:38:00 - [4428] - Quote Momoyo wrote: 07 Mittani Also I'm not sure but this is the longest thread I've ever seen here. Wonder if its a record breaker. Biggest thread in new forum. The previous record was the WIS thread which took approximately 3 months to reach 200 pages, this thread took 3 days to pass that mark. Space Drama >>> Space Dress Up.
Jita Alt666 975	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:40:00 - [4429] - Quote This thread has degenerated into Bob vs Goons terrible posting competition 2012
Jita Alt666 975	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:41:00 - [4430] - Quote Cultural victory goes both ways.
Enyeto Perah 7	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:41:00 - [4431] - Quote Isabella300 wrote: Enyeto Perah wrote: Cailais wrote: Enyeto Perah wrote: Starcaller Dredg wrote: http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down because it would benefit goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face. Run the Goons out of EVE. THIS should be spread! What this business demonstrates is what happens when one psychologically troubled player (the mackinaw player) impacts with another equally troubled player (Alex Gianturco). What is abundantly clear is that Alex is having extreme difficulty differentiating his real life self from his alter ego virtual persona. It is deeply disturbing (to me at least) to see someone who is essentially suffering from what appears to be a form of a mental health disorder - a personality disorder specifically. I would be interested in what plans CCP have to help or offer advice on what support players can receive who are in this unfortunate state of well being. That's not to say that I believe that CCP have an obligation to directly provide such support but alerting players to potential sources of advice would be a 'good thing'. Im equally surprised that those at CCP did not recognise earlier the signs that Alex Gianturco could well be suffering from an over exposure to EVE Online as a product. Immersion is all well and good but in this instance the ramifications of two players both with significant issues with respect to their perception of what is 'real' and has value have been far reaching. I would hope that those who know Alex well, and who count themselves as his friends, will council him to at the very least take a break from EVE and to get a fresh perspective on who he is. C. THIS IS THE BIGGEST BULL I EVER READ! cry troubled player cry F U! RPing?! YEAH SURE... FAMOUS Pooswarrm RP Corp... So what you say is that its CCP's fault and that Mittany is free of any guilt, and that the mackinaw player just should have stayed away from EVE? is THAT it?! WOW... I wonder how many other stupid MORONS are out there... But I am sure, Alex be grateful for your ass kissing... Ass kissing ? .. you didn't really understand a single word he wrote did u ?! Please read again and ask for translation if you dont know the meaning of his words. Isabella, I clearly understood what he said: One player has psychological problems and should get help, and Mittani also has problems (however not psychological) (equally does NOT imply that he has also psychological, but also as big problems as the other one, be it from family, or just because he was drunk or whatever). Alex has trouble with distinction between real-life and alter ego. HOWEVER: CCP should have recognised that, so in the end, it's CCPs fault, because they should have regognized it. OK, he does not believe CCP has an obligation, but he is surprised that CCP didnt tell Alex that he has problems. So not Alex' fault, but CCP, they should have told him! He wishs Alex the best anyway. So what he says is: POOR POOR Alex, BAD BAD CCP and the Mackinaw player is a psychologically troubled person.
GallowsCalibrator GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 35	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:42:00 - [4432] - Quote Miranda Etxebarria wrote: Kajurei Delainen wrote: I'll admit I watched The Mittani at FanFest CSM panel with disgust - he's a total douche bag. I'm not in his alliance, so I don't follow him. Listening to Mittani on mumble comms tonight, reinforced that Mittani is not a person worth following. Instead of listening to those that told him he is wrong in his personal behavior and treatment of others, firing him from the CSM panel and banning him from the game. He instead makes the decision to lash out at the game, and orders his alliance to attack players in Jita. His actions could cause people to quit eve, as they would think that CCP would allow the game to spiral out of control and allow hundreds of players to destroy everything within reach in the trade hub. If people quit the game - we won't have a game to play, hurting all of us. It's self-destructive behavior - he destroyed his reputation, hurt the reputations of the CSM and CCP, and now looks to hurt the reputation of his own alliance. All of it because he advocated destroying a person through harrassing him to commit suicide. It's not funny, it never was. Don't follow someone off a cliff - as his actions are clearly self-destructive. The Mittani should quit eve, not out of rage, but out of guilt. Goonswarm started playing eve with the intent to wreck it, and they have, just like they did in the last game they set out to wreck. The Mittani has wrecked Eve-online's reputation with his vulgar displays on broadcast TV. He has nothing to be proud of, nothing to show for his self-destructive behavior, absolutely nothing, and will be missed by no one. Are you kidding me? Was the alliance panel awful? Sure. Should The Mittani be punished for his behavior? No doubt. Was his apology sincere? Don't know, don't care. But here you are, in a thread about TOS/EULA violations, already pissing and moaning about perfectly valid in-game behavior. Wait, let me rephrase that, about behavior that makes this game unique among dozens of generic MMO's. So, Mittens threatens to destroy Jita, a hub in high-sec, protected by CONCORD, sec-status hits and used by most pilots in the goddamn game? Then why don't you, rather than whine about people quitting the game, plan to do something about it? I don't have any business with GSF or The Mittani. In fact, I'm a Jita trader, so I stand to lose significantly from any action against the hub. Still, reading some of the comments of people who try to link the alliance panel debacle to perfectly norman (and exciting) in-game behavior makes me an embarrased carebear. A good post, from a Jita trader? The wonders never cease.
Kai Tel State War Academy Caldari State 85	Posted - 2012.03.29 10:48:00 - [4433] - Quote You know? Darius III (aka D3?) He's a CSM in good standing. Mittani? He is just a step shy of perma-banned and ranting madly to his dog at home about the death of Jita and taking vengance on carebears and CCP.... Who would have thought? You see before the election i took bets on who would go batshit crazy first and I got it wrong.
Rrroot DerpWaffe Unprovoked Aggression 0	Posted - 2012.03.29 11:12:00 - [4434] - Quote So he got drunk and said something stupid, if people were going to get upset they shouldn't have let him take the stand to begin with. A lot of posters seem more concerned with hurting goons than actually feeling sorry for the emo kid. Its an mmo guys you're going to hear drunk people talk get over it. I only hope this incident doesn't bring about a Blizzard like level of PC enforcement.
Aurora B FinFleet Raiden. 4	Posted - 2012.03.29 11:13:00 - [4435] - Quote Quote: Isabella, I clearly understood what he said: One player has psychological problems and should get help, and Mittani also has problems (however not psychological) (equally does NOT imply that he has also psychological, but also as big problems as the other one, be it from family, or just because he was drunk or whatever). Alex has trouble with distinction between real-life and alter ego. HOWEVER: CCP should have recognised that, so in the end, it's CCPs fault, because they should have regognized it. OK, he does not believe CCP has an obligation, but he is surprised that CCP didnt tell Alex that he has problems. So not Alex' fault, but CCP, they should have told him! He wishs Alex the best anyway. So what he says is: POOR POOR Alex, BAD BAD CCP and the Mackinaw player is a psychologically troubled person. You can always blame someone else if your ****** enough.
Christine Peeveepeeski Killing With Kindness The Obsidian Front 64	Posted - 2012.03.29 11:14:00 - [4436] - Quote You know what's wrong about all this? The political BS, if anyone here cared about the suicidal guy, that's using him to bash the goons with then you'd have dealt with this without spreading it all over the internet. I am not condoning what Mittani did, stepping down was the right thing to do but let's be clear. the over reaction against him has also been just as damaging as his actions. I believe the ends (Mittani's removal from office) does not justify the means (dragging eve through the gutter in the gaming press). If you find yourself saying 'well goons would have done it so we did it to them' then ask yourself who's won EVE ;)
Enyeto Perah 8	Posted - 2012.03.29 11:15:00 - [4437] - Quote Ferocitane wrote: At current date there is no implant to filter all traffic between brain and mouth. Noone intended incidents like this to happen, but it will happen again in the future on "Polarbeer" Fanfests again in the future. I support the 1 month ban and being kicked from CSM the remaining period. But the next period too is a bit drastic. Poster rage is non constructive for CSM. Right, next period is really a drastic reduce of what it should be. A person as this should NEVER EVER be allowed to be let anywhere NEAR Fanfest, CSM, ISD or whatever! http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. He didn't step down because of his actions. He stepped down to benefit Goonswarm. He didn't apologize because he meant it. He apologized to save face.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence 106	Posted - 2012.03.29 11:23:00 - [4438] - Quote Rrroot wrote: So he got drunk and said something stupid, if people were going to get upset they shouldn't have let him take the stand to begin with. A lot of posters seem more concerned with hurting goons than actually feeling sorry for the emo kid. Its an mmo guys you're going to hear drunk people talk get over it. I only hope this incident doesn't bring about a Blizzard like level of PC enforcement. "I killed a guy but i was drunk so it was okay"
Cailais Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance 250	Posted - 2012.03.29 11:26:00 - [4439] - Quote [quote=Enyeto Perah Isabella, I clearly understood what he said One player has psychological problems and should get help, and Mittani also has problems (however not psychological) (equally does NOT imply that he has also psychological, but also as big problems as the other one, be it from family, or just because he was drunk or whatever) Alex has trouble with distinction between real-life and alter ego. HOWEVER: CCP should have recognised that, so in the end, it's CCPs fault, because they should have regognized it. OK, he does not believe CCP has an obligation, but he is surprised that CCP didnt tell Alex that he has problems. So not Alex' fault, but CCP, they should have told him He wishs Alex the best anyway So what he says is: POOR POOR Alex, BAD BAD CCP and the Mackinaw player is a psychologically troubled person [/quote Erm, yeah pretty much what I wasnt saying but you know whatever. [:=d C.
Velyks Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 7	Posted - 2012.03.29 11:29:00 - [4440] - Quote Enyeto Perah wrote: Ferocitane wrote: At current date there is no implant to filter all traffic between brain and mouth. Noone intended incidents like this to happen, but it will happen again in the future on "Polarbeer" Fanfests again in the future. I support the 1 month ban and being kicked from CSM the remaining period. But the next period too is a bit drastic. Poster rage is non constructive for CSM. Right, next period is really a drastic reduce of what it should be. A person as this should NEVER EVER be allowed to be let anywhere NEAR Fanfest, CSM, ISD or whatever! Thank god fanatics such as yourself arn't in decision making positions. http://i.imgur.com/JyLjl.jpg

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