Destruction of evidence basically.

Which in itself is more damning.

You imply that a crime was commited, when in fact one was not.

Evidence is only "evidence" if there is an investigation. Otherwise it's just ****.

You take a video game far too seriously.

You do know you can use the term DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE outside of legal reasons or investigation or a crime.

It literally was destruction of evidence showing his behavior and character as a person. It doesn't only apply to legal usage.

Holy crap no one can be this dumb.

By your definition, anybody who ever deletes an internet video has destroyed evidence.

That means that anybody who's ever deleted an internet video is also obviouly more damned than they were before the internet videos were deleted.

Because you never know why somebody would destroy some evidence...

Yes, apparently somebody is just this dumb.

You're so cool. You shiptoasted in a thread where the OP has no ability to retort, along with thousands of other chowderheads all frothing at the mouth over somebody whose playstyle they didn't like!!

Well.

I do not like people telling other people to go kill themselves at parties, at a gym, in a bus, on IRC, on Google+, on the streets. Does that mean I take parties, gyms, buses, IRC, G+ and streets "too seriously"? Why would a videogame environment be any different than any of the other places? It is, after all, just like you like to say, "just a game". It is just a thing I do in my life, for my pastime. Why would I not want the same standards of behavior from random strangers in it that I want in other pastimes?

Let me counter this: what makes this game so serious for you that you think it should be the exception to normal standards of behavior between adults? If it is "just a game", should we all not behave like we were, well, just playing a game, instead of making serious business about offending as many people as possible?

Because EVE is a culture,. EVE has its own vernacular, its own behaviors, and even its own music. What other people see as terrible griefing actions, like scamming, we proudly beat our chests to and claim that its amazing player-made content.'

EVE even has its own Morality. It has been philosophized that morality is not a static entity, but one that changes with time, location, culture, and individuals for thousands of years, and yet people still seem stuck in the idea of "My morality is the only morality".

Vulgarity is part of EVE's culture. CCP, to a degree, accepts this. The player base accepts this. Even some of the media accepts this. So here's a question for you: Why can't you?

Not to mention that the original comment in question was about actions in the context of a Role Playing Game.

Prove he meant otherwise.

Prove he meant it in the context of a Role Playing Game.

~Roleplayers~ never break character.

Done.

~Roleplayers~ never break character.

Done.

Prove he meant it in the context of a Role Playing Game.

I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude.

/relevant

Prove he meant it in the context of a Role Playing Game.

This thread is now about Tropic Thunder. I thought it was pretty bad.

It was... ok I suppose.

Anyway, While I agree that EVE and games in general in fact bring their own behavious and players can do what they chose to do, the way I see it, poeple put real money into playing this game (subscription costs) and deserve a little respect. Now if you scam someone iin game or smacktalk with them fair enough, but when they are clearly taking it hard out of game, then back off a bit. Taking the p*** out of them in public like that is immature and irresponsible and thats that.

On top of this, the CSM is supposed to be made of the people that we trust to keep eve progessing. You lot (goons) may want some massively elitist enviroment where you do what you want, but all you are doing is making sure new players don't want to stick around. We need new players to keep the game growing and stop it from stagnating, so a CSM leader that alienates and harrasses new players is definitely not what I want to see.

You were doing so well until the second paragraph.

Would you like to expand on that in any way?
Or is it just "I feel your point is inalid and must be right as I much like Mittani like to abuse noobs"

I have to say too by the way - If the mittani was like

EPIC STORY ...and that is how I scammed 30 billion isk from a massive corporation and brought them crying to their knees!

I'd be like... Nice!

but hes done the equivalent of

NOT SO EPIC STORY ...and that's how I mugged an old lady for her bus fare as she was having an asthma attack in the street.

Its not exacly a challenge to scam noobs and make them cry.

22 macks - same dude. The story's pretty freaking epic. This guy was no noob.

Comparing that to mugging an old lady?

Priceless.

Would you like to expand on that in any way?

Any chance of this entire topic just dying out any time soon? ****...as much as I love to hate on Goons and especially Mittani, this is just getting old. Nobody is going to change opinions in this thread. That much is clear. If God himself came down and made a declaration one way or the other, everybody would still firmly believe whatever they want.

yes....

smoke screen

The part where you said that Goons do nothing to help new players. The CFC, and Goons and TEST especially, love new players. The CFC is pretty much the opposite of what you described. Generally the people who get scammed or blown up by "Goons and Friends" are actually people who have played the game for years.

Also, Mittens did tell the epic story of how he scammed billions of ISK, at fanfest. More precisely, he gave a shout out to a Goon who sold 7 Supers that didn't exist.