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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
205
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:50:00 -
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Pedro Chang wrote:Voith wrote:Pedro Chang wrote:Pretty sure any not-major-CEO-and-or-EVE-historical-figure would have been banned for such actions. Double standard much? Pretty sure random people harass other random people 24/7 in Eve. They call it "playing Eve". Pretty sure most don't go to real life events and represent the game company (+ the community for that matter), while making fun of someone openly who may or may not be suicidal. Any "non-major-player" would be banned immediately. People get banned for way less than that. In game is one thing. IRL is another entirely...
Hasn't CCP already banned people just for saying "Kill yourself" in forums to someone? So, he's going to get away with encouraging thousands of people to "make this guy kill himself" via griefing? Frankly if he is NOT banned, it's a complete hypocrisy on CCP's part, as well as not-so-subtle official condonation of what he did. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
425
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:51:00 -
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Roffle Lawler wrote:If The Mittani doesn't resign I am literally going to kill myself.
And my cat.
Edit: IRL
Can I be your second? |
de4deye
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
35
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:51:00 -
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Xython wrote:Aineko Macx wrote:I have exactly 0 reasons to believe shittens means the apology. It's just a calculated maneuver to reduce the chance of reprisals. Shittens. DOH HO HOHO, YOU SIR, ARE THE EPITOME OF WIT.
... "Deal with it" |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
101
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:52:00 -
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Kel hound wrote:Apology accepted. Inebriated or not what you said was beyond ****-move. That said, goon or not this was a heart-felt apology.
You better not be still gunning for chairman after a cluster-**** like this though! I mean **** dude, apology or not what you said (drunk or not) was tantamount to political suicide.
No Troll (and probably the only post I've made so far I can say that honestly to): He's trying to pass the Chairmanship off but more than one person has refused it. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
398
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:52:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:de4deye wrote:de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. It is very stange how some would openly allow and feel no remorse for this sick and sadistic behavior exhibited by Mittani. Monsters will be monsters, I suppose. Would that be be the poor suicidal person that joked about his "I want to die after my divorce statement"? Or the poor suicidal person who was completely unaware that he was supposedly being "cyber bullied", and could care less about all this nonsense?
Weather or not the person was suicidal is completely irrelevant to the argument from both a legal and PR standpoint. rembourcer ou vous ne pourez plus miner en paix !!-ánous n'aimons pas les pirate !!-áno rembource mi declare war for you |
Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:53:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Kel hound wrote:Apology accepted. Inebriated or not what you said was beyond ****-move. That said, goon or not this was a heart-felt apology.
You better not be still gunning for chairman after a cluster-**** like this though! I mean **** dude, apology or not what you said (drunk or not) was tantamount to political suicide. No Troll (and probably the only post I've made so far I can say that honestly to): He's trying to pass the Chairmanship off but more than one person has refused it.
He just doesn't want to give it to Trebor or Darius, cause that'd be a disaster. |
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
220
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:53:00 -
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The condeming evidence that doesn't allow Mittens to pull the 'I was drunk' card is the fact that he had the slide, etc organised prior to FF, which makes the comments a pre-meditated act.
From CCP's perspective I don't see how they can come to any other conclusion from their investigation other than the Mittani had pre-organised to make the comments that he did. And any media outlet is going to burn CCP at the stake if they ignore this fact in their PR damage control.
Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:53:00 -
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Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here. |
Aargolos
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:53:00 -
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I think it may have gone a bit too far.
That's all I have to say about that. |
Lorren Canada
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
220
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:54:00 -
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de4deye wrote:Xython wrote:Aineko Macx wrote:I have exactly 0 reasons to believe shittens means the apology. It's just a calculated maneuver to reduce the chance of reprisals. Shittens. DOH HO HOHO, YOU SIR, ARE THE EPITOME OF WIT. ... "Deal with it"
:cripes: |
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YuuKnow
157
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:54:00 -
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1000 + replies in less than 5 hours. That has to be some sortof record.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
101
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:54:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:de4deye wrote:de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. It is very stange how some would openly allow and feel no remorse for this sick and sadistic behavior exhibited by Mittani. Monsters will be monsters, I suppose. Would that be be the poor suicidal person that joked about his "I want to die after my divorce statement"? Or the poor suicidal person who was completely unaware that he was supposedly being "cyber bullied", and could care less about all this nonsense? Weather or not the person was suicidal is completely irrelevant to the argument from both a legal and PR standpoint.
Actually from a Legal standpoint it matters quite a bit.
PR... you are correct. |
Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:54:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:de4deye wrote:de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. It is very stange how some would openly allow and feel no remorse for this sick and sadistic behavior exhibited by Mittani. Monsters will be monsters, I suppose. Would that be be the poor suicidal person that joked about his "I want to die after my divorce statement"? Or the poor suicidal person who was completely unaware that he was supposedly being "cyber bullied", and could care less about all this nonsense? Weather or not the person was suicidal is completely irrelevant to the argument from both a legal and PR standpoint.
Except that this is a video game environment we're talking about. A video game where murder, backstabbing, stealing, conning, killing and every other base action of the human race is not only acceptable, but encouraged. Par for the course. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1275
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:55:00 -
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Roffle Lawler wrote:If The Mittani doesn't resign I am literally going to kill myself.
And my cat.
Edit: IRL
FOR GODS SAKE, SPARE THE CAT! When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:55:00 -
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Xython wrote:Aineko Macx wrote:I have exactly 0 reasons to believe shittens means the apology. It's just a calculated maneuver to reduce the chance of reprisals. Shittens. DOH HO HOHO, YOU SIR, ARE THE EPITOME OF WIT. Actually, unlike your head honcho I don't claim fame for other peoples work. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:55:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here.
You do realize he's just resigning the chair right?
And that he can only do so on the suffrage of the other CSM members? |
Shogun Archer
26
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:55:00 -
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Way to man up and apologize.
I know I just gained a lot more respect for you and your alliance. It's easy to hate the Goons if you aren't a Goon, and you guys propogate that, but thank you for doing the right thing.
Shogun If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror. |
Kai Tel
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:56:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here.
You know? Rick James?
"Crack *******, man. It's a helluva drug." |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:56:00 -
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Kel hound wrote:Apology accepted. Inebriated or not what you said was beyond ****-move. That said, goon or not this was a heart-felt apology.
How exactly do you know it was a heart-felt apology?
And I don't mean that like a Goon would. You know, demanding college degrees in psychology and knowing the person for decades and nonsense like that.
I mean in the "have you personally talked with this guy before or after he gave the apology" sense. As in, do I have any reason to believe you or place any credibility in what you have said? |
Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:56:00 -
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Aineko Macx wrote:Xython wrote:Aineko Macx wrote:I have exactly 0 reasons to believe shittens means the apology. It's just a calculated maneuver to reduce the chance of reprisals. Shittens. DOH HO HOHO, YOU SIR, ARE THE EPITOME OF WIT. Actually, unlike your head honcho I don't claim fame for other peoples work.
Please, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD list all of the accomplishments Mittens has taken from other people. |
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Clark Derden
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:56:00 -
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Okay for all the sack of **** people who think Mittani should resign I say to you is take your white ass hats off and get the **** over it. **** was said and **** nothing is going to change it so deal with it. Move on for Christ sake. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
426
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:57:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here.
Me too~! |
Fenris Deka
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:57:00 -
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When I used to fly as Madam Squishy, and sat in 6vdt for 16+ hours in the name of TEST, flying with the WIdot flag with Goon leadership in that war, I can honestly state that Mittens is not what people saw in that fanfest panel. I don't know him on a personal level, but I know that he isn't that evil of a man, he merely portrays one in a video game.
Listen, the man made a mistake, owned up to it, and apologized privately with the guy he was talking about, and publicly to all of us. I think he fulfilled his societal obligation and should be left alone to carry on with everyday life and gaming within Eve.
To be honest, everyone says something really stupid, or even evil. I myself made some very bad comments about the Arabic community of Earth whlie drunk (I had served in the Army and in Iraq for over 10 months) but that's not who I am while in a sane state. Alcohol is not the scapegoat.
At any rate, Mittens probably doesn't remember me or even cares to know who I am, but I know he still has my support within Eve because I believe in the guy. He's a good level headed dude, and has earned my respect. |
Pedro Chang
Scorpus Legion
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:57:00 -
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Azahni Vah'nos wrote:The condeming evidence that doesn't allow Mittens to pull the 'I was drunk' card is the fact that he had the slide, etc organised prior to FF, which makes the comments a pre-meditated act.
From CCP's perspective I don't see how they can come to any other conclusion from their investigation other than the Mittani had pre-organised to make the comments that he did. And any media outlet is going to burn CCP at the stake if they ignore this fact in their PR damage control.
See, that's the problem I have with it. This guy, who is representing both CCP and the entire EVE community, decided way before alcohol was involved to harass this guy IRL. When your in-game character spills that much into RL, it's time for CCP to give you a break. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
230
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:57:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:de4deye wrote:de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. It is very stange how some would openly allow and feel no remorse for this sick and sadistic behavior exhibited by Mittani. Monsters will be monsters, I suppose. Would that be be the poor suicidal person that joked about his "I want to die after my divorce statement"? Or the poor suicidal person who was completely unaware that he was supposedly being "cyber bullied", and could care less about all this nonsense? Weather or not the person was suicidal is completely irrelevant to the argument from both a legal and PR standpoint. oh i remember now, cipher jones, you're that moron who was like "all forms of ganking is griefing, which is considered a bannable offense eula etc, and CCP Y U NO enforce your own rules" a while back wis shall not be a cesspool of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, bunch of dudes emoting each other, devoid of gameplay and consequnces. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
426
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:57:00 -
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Aineko Macx wrote:Xython wrote:Aineko Macx wrote:I have exactly 0 reasons to believe shittens means the apology. It's just a calculated maneuver to reduce the chance of reprisals. Shittens. DOH HO HOHO, YOU SIR, ARE THE EPITOME OF WIT. Actually, unlike your head honcho I don't claim fame for other peoples work.
Back in your cave, Sockpuppet. |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:58:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Amity Lane wrote:Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here. You do realize he's just resigning the chair right? And that he can only do so on the suffrage of the other CSM members? Interesting how now it's just "resigning the chair", and not his CSM position.
I guess since he wasn't explicit earlier this isn't technically revisionism, but I think to pretty much everyone it was implied that he was going to be resigning his CSM position.
We've been lawyer'd, it seems. Interesting. |
de4deye
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
37
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:58:00 -
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Azahni Vah'nos wrote:The condeming evidence that doesn't allow Mittens to pull the 'I was drunk' card is the fact that he had the slide, etc organised prior to FF, which makes the comments a pre-meditated act.
From CCP's perspective I don't see how they can come to any other conclusion from their investigation other than the Mittani had pre-organised to make the comments that he did. And any media outlet is going to burn CCP at the stake if they ignore this fact in their PR damage control.
Very good point |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
207
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:58:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here.
Regardless of which "side" you are on in this, "people" or "goon", everyone can agree that Alex, tbp The Mittani, screwed up. Even The Mittani agrees with that. See his above apology. Now it's a matter of damage control.
For Alex to leave with any sort of honor, he must resign from the CSM, and soon.
For CCP to get out of this with any sort of honor, they must ban him, because what he did was proveably premeditated, and far exceeds behaviour that CCP has banned people over in the past. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |
Roffle Lawler
Elitist Oops
25
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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:59:00 -
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Guys I'm not joking if The Mittani and Goons don't leave Eve: Online I am gonna start cutting myself. I have the knife. |
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