If your PR includes promoting somethin your leader accepts was wrong...

Perhaps you should examine your procedures

Due to an overwhelming response of outrage from eve community, we have decided to open a GSF suicide hotline. Should you need to use such service, please undock in JITA 4-4 and use "THE WIZ" keyword in local.

We will ensure GSF members are always available to assist you at any time should you need our help.

This is a game where players take pride in kicking down sandcastles and stripping their enemies of literally everything they have worked for over years. No part of the game is exempt from this and anybody with serious issues IRL should not be using a game, especially not a cutthroat MMO like EVE to escape them. They should be seeking help and straightening out their priorities.

Do not fall for his serenading apologetic letter to garner vindication of his misconduct and emotional appeal to redeem himself from the "scandal" he has caused.

It has been CLEAR EVER SINCE THE BEGINNING that he never had an ounce of doubt about his misconduct during the Fanfest 2012. He stood firm and resolute in the rightfulness of inciting thousands of players to provoke a mentally unstable player to commit suicide.

These are the responses from Mittani the Great prior to this debacle and public outcry:

"You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything."

"~10,058~"

He even lies to all of us by telling us that he never incited the players to send mails to provoke him to commit suicide when there is a video that clearly shows that he is delusional and a liar: "Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for. "

Him justifying his misconduct by telling all of us that what he did abides by the spirit of EVE Online: "Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself."

Since the beginning, he has seen no error in him inciting thousands of EVE players to provoke an unfortunate guy to commit suicide. He willingly, knowingly, and deliberately showed misconduct because he sincerely believes that there is nothing wrong with doing so. His responses explain his thoughts.

Do not fall for his "apologies." He only wrote this AFTER he got stream of news media covering his misconducts. He was scared of losing the chairmanship, his account, and his leadership over Goons.

Are you guys aware that by repeatedly quoting Wis and making his name and backstory known all over the forums, that you do more to isolate him and drive him over the edge than Mittens could ever have done?
The apology sounded sincere, and I am sure that our beloved chariman will settle the thing with Wis in a private manner, no more publicity needed.
Now, please let this topic die already, there will nothing good come out of it.

we've already established that nobody's life is hanging on the balance here

try to keep up

This guy,
I love you man

Do not fall for his serenading apologetic letter to garner vindication of his misconduct and emotional appeal to redeem himself from the "scandal" he has caused.

It has been CLEAR EVER SINCE THE BEGINNING that he never had an ounce of doubt about his misconduct during the Fanfest 2012. He stood firm and resolute in the rightfulness of inciting thousands of players to provoke a mentally unstable player to commit suicide.

These are the responses from Mittani the Great prior to this debacle and public outcry:

"You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything."

"~10,058~"

He even lies to all of us by telling us that he never incited the players to send mails to provoke him to commit suicide when there is a video that clearly shows that he is delusional and a liar: "Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for. "

Him justifying his misconduct by telling all of us that what he did abides by the spirit of EVE Online: "Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself."

Since the beginning, he has seen no error in him inciting thousands of EVE players to provoke an unfortunate guy to commit suicide. He willingly, knowingly, and deliberately showed misconduct because he sincerely believes that there is nothing wrong with doing so. His responses explain his thoughts.

Do not fall for his "apologies." He only wrote this AFTER he got stream of news media covering his misconducts. He was scared of losing the chairmanship, his account, and his leadership over Goons.

Whilst all very true, the problem is that his comments were made out of game at a official CCP Event.

An Official Event being transmitted live to thousands of people with CCP employees present,

I'm no expert but something tells those people who have millions of dollars invested in CCP would not appreciate the amount of negativity publicity currently on the internet, neither would CCP partners such as Sony and Nvidia, especially considering the topic in question is so prevalent in today's media and with the growing band wagon of people who are trying to blame computer games for kids running riot.

Why do you think CCP has a rule that you can not post kill mails, eve mails and chat logs for the sole purpose to mock and humiliate people?

CCP know there is a line that can not be crossed, unfortunately for Alex he did cross this line.

I do have a lot of sympathy for Alex, He does not deserves the amount of real life vilification he has received. It was a dumb misguided action made worse due to him being drunk.

I have no sympathy for CCP as I can not believe that somebody didn't think of just giving the presentation slides a quick once over just to make sure they were no crossing any lines, considering the reputation that some of the alliance members leaders have and also that they were stinking drunk as well.

Not really, it often happens when least expected. His distress seemed genuine something like that doesn't just disappear overnight.

Hey Z

Hows tricks

Unfortunatly the cat is out the bag now and in the public domain, the number of gaming sites that almost instantly covered the story, that may not be the end of this

There's no way to know how far such a 'viral' effect will have just now, because the infection has just started to spread as it where,

1000's of players ranting on facebook, twitter, no-one sure how 'high' up the publicity ladder this is going to climb, what Sony's reaction will be regarding this scandal regarding a comapny they are 'in bed with'

Thats why I warned the goons

Other people than CCP may forensically examine this incident, only time will tell the overall outcome, we are now at day 2 of the 'Mittani incident'

At least he has finally and defenatly sealed his entry into the history of New Eden

If your PR includes promoting somethin your leader accepts was wrong...

Perhaps you should examine your procedures

Do you even read what is going on here? The slide is not the issue as the victim was nameless in the slide. The issue comes later, at the end of the presentations during Q&A when someone asks The Mittani a question about it and then the Mittani makes a joke in poor taste. The end, nothing to see here, move along. The Alliance Panel was full of horrible words (and some funny ones), but none of them are the hated The Mittani, are they?

you are a special snowflake - fighting the good fight - keep up the good work defending the weak and vunerable all around the world - you might want to start by looking around are realising that in this ****** world we live in people get kurb stomped all day every day in rl - i dont see you running arund worried about them - you just seem a little obbsesed with throwing dirt around

once again - i ask you to show us on the doll where the mittani touched you

Go red the chatlogs of someone telling him about this today. He's fine, and apparently thought the video was funny.

No one who knows about this seems to care less than the supposed 'victim'.

you are a special snowflake - fighting the good fight - keep up the good work defending the weak and vunerable all around the world - you might want to start by looking around are realising that in this ****** world we live in people get kurb stomped all day every day in rl - i dont see you running arund worried about them - you just seem a little obbsesed with throwing dirt around

once again - i ask you to show us on the doll where the mittani touched you

Good that Mittani apologized. and good think that guy in mackinaw is OK. Its the good part of the story.

But we have rules co called "EULA" and I think that law can't be broken. We are not using RLife names for a reason. So there need to be consequences. Its the sad part of the game when computer pixels are meeting Real Life.

Alliance panel was the worst part of the fan fest - and guys - You are not rock stars you are nothing you are just players like others - grow up and do not act like "Kardashians" .

I think that CCP need to think about "Celebrities" of eve... Its maybe too much..

Anyone can feel on top on the world while drunk, but it takes real balls to own up to it and write an apology like that. That is a commendable act

Do not fall for his serenading apologetic letter to garner vindication of his misconduct and emotional appeal to redeem himself from the "scandal" he has caused.

It has been CLEAR EVER SINCE THE BEGINNING that he never had an ounce of doubt about his misconduct during the Fanfest 2012. He stood firm and resolute in the rightfulness of inciting thousands of players to provoke a mentally unstable player to commit suicide.

These are the responses from Mittani the Great prior to this debacle and public outcry:

"You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything."

"~10,058~"

He even lies to all of us by telling us that he never incited the players to send mails to provoke him to commit suicide when there is a video that clearly shows that he is delusional and a liar: "Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for. "

Him justifying his misconduct by telling all of us that what he did abides by the spirit of EVE Online: "Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself."

Since the beginning, he has seen no error in him inciting thousands of EVE players to provoke an unfortunate guy to commit suicide. He willingly, knowingly, and deliberately showed misconduct because he sincerely believes that there is nothing wrong with doing so. His responses explain his thoughts.

Do not fall for his "apologies." He only wrote this AFTER he got stream of news media covering his misconducts. He was scared of losing the chairmanship, his account, and his leadership over Goons.

Go red the chatlogs of someone telling him about this today. He's fine, and apparently thought the video was funny.

No one who knows about this seems to care less than the supposed 'victim'.

Its not about this poor guy anymore its about rules. Rules are Rules you should't be breaking EULA.

Have done, means nothing