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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
28
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:48:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Doddy wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: On top of that you have the following message,
92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, I return from the land of ice, snow, and stupid media hit pieces. While I'm in transit back to Madison, please follow Vile Rat's lead on the political fallout. This is not a 2007 threadnaught and I will never abandon you, so act like men. Jita will still burn, no matter what.
*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
(2:50:01 AM) directorbot: Also, 3 ncdot titans, a 100b scam, and 10k votes? You magnificent bastards. I should leave you for a week unsupervised more often.
*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
So yeah, no surprised that not many people believe his apology was sincere.
What exactly is wrong with the message? Nothing, other then it would suggest that his apology is nothing more then spin and not in the least bit sincere.
In what way? Do you disagree the piece was stupid, or that it was in the media? Does him telling goons not to threadnaught in his support somehow mean he takes back is apology? Does him saying he wont quit game mean he has taken back is apology?
Or is it the fact hedares to congratulate his alliance somehow have something to do with it. Did this ice miner own these NC. titans or something?
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1520
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:49:00 -
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Doddy wrote:[quote=Jade Constantine][quote=Doddy] But you are one of the worst posters eve has ever known and yet you have likes. Because the like system is designed so that more posts = more likes with no quality control. You may pretend its only goons that think your posting is bad but its the same on every forum, a jade post is a self agrandizing post made for some obscure ego reasons. If this forum had dislikes and goons were not allowed to use it you would still be negative. Instead you just jump on bandwagons to farm likes so you can pretend to be important.
Alternatively you could address the substance of the post I made earlier rather than desperately trying to wriggle off the subject. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1013943#post1013943
Go ahead and try to have a mature discussion rather than silly flame freakout. You might like it.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1359
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:50:00 -
[2133] - Quote
TL:DR;
Mittani was somewhat high spirited on spirits and said regrettable things.
Now who here has not ever done that?
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Lorren Canada
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
225
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:50:00 -
[2134] - Quote
adopt wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Orkasm wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Nano V wrote:Mittani has made a sincere apology, this should be the end of the matter. People who continue to drum up hysteria have their own agendas.
Mittani should continue to be the CSM chairman, he's done a great job and one mistake shouldn't undo a whole year of hard work and 10,000 votes. I would agree however the problem is he has created a persona of somebody who is a lying cheating scamming bastard. So with that in mind people are not going to accept his apology so readily. You also have the numerous comments he made before the **** hit the fan and none of them were what you would call apologetic. On top of that you have the following message, 92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, I return from the land of ice, snow, and stupid media hit pieces. While I'm in transit back to Madison, please follow Vile Rat's lead on the political fallout. This is not a 2007 threadnaught and I will never abandon you, so act like men. Jita will still burn, no matter what.
*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***
(2:50:01 AM) directorbot: Also, 3 ncdot titans, a 100b scam, and 10k votes? You magnificent bastards. I should leave you for a week unsupervised more often.
*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored *** So yeah, no surprised that not many people believe his apology was sincere. So because he made an apology, he is no longer allowed to be an alliance leader? Is this what you're saying? You posting skills are pretty bad, I expect a lot better from a Goon. What I am saying is that you can't pretend to be a lying, cheating, scamming pubbie hating bastard for years, make a number of comments which basically translate to **** you, I don't care what you think, and then when the **** hits the fan for people to suddenly believe your apology is sincere. Hes not a good, hes in WIdot. WIdot posting worst posting.
And you're in fucing ENL-I . sup? |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
89
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:50:00 -
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You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
Not for you to go out in a drunked state and harass people in "live" fashion. You've made a mistake and it's good that you've admitted to your error.
But you have not accepted the consequences of your action which will complete your raod to redemption that you are supposedly seeking.
Simply.. Step down.. |
BuckStrider
Hardcore p0wnography
25
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:52:00 -
[2136] - Quote
Quote:I return from the land of ice, snow, and stupid media hit pieces.
Yeah....He's sorry |
Yeep
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:53:00 -
[2137] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:Yeep wrote: So what you're saying is that its important that we don't have dislikes because otherwise loads of goons people would dislike you and that would be pathetic mean?
fyp
A system where you can only express support skews numbers heavily in favour of people who polarize opinions. If I post something that 100 people love but every single other person who plays EvE hates vehemently I still have 100 likes. If I post something that 50,000 people agree with but only 10 love I have 10 likes. This is clearly broken in the name of not hurting anyone's feelings. |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:55:00 -
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Wow...this conversation has gotten way off-topic while I was sleeping. Reminder time?
What this controversy is not:
- Cyber-bullying
- Character assassination
- Revenge for game nerfs
- Anti-GoonSwarm sensationalism
- Election corruption
- A reason for you to pretend you're a psychologist
- Interesting anymore
What this controversy is:
- Whether or not a person in a position of power suggesting people break game rules (without breaking any himself in the process) is acceptable conduct
- Whether or not a person who said they'd resign from said position of power actually resigns
- Failscading into irrelevant drivel about suicide, bad press, faux legalese, TItans, carebears, and some guy who spends $345 a month to mine ice.
Consider that before you click the POST button on your next bit of "OMG MITTANI R MAEK ATTEMPTD MERDER" text-diarrrhea. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
635
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:57:00 -
[2139] - Quote
Apollo-Moor wrote:You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
Not for you to go out in a drunked state and harass people in "live" fashion. You've made a mistake and it's good that you've admitted to your error.
But you have not accepted the consequences of your action which will complete your raod to redemption that you are supposedly seeking.
Simply.. Step down.. Did you vote for him? |
Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:57:00 -
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Doddy wrote: What exactly is wrong with the message?
[/quote] You don't think there's anything that appears duplicitous? His public apology describes the deep personal shock he underwent in discovering what he had really said when he read the media reports and tells of how deeply ashamed he was by the contents. His message to the guys who are still on the forums claiming he didn't do anything wrong in the first place calls these revelatory media reports 'stupid media hit pieces'. That rather strongly suggests that reading them wasn't quite the humbling experience he claimed.
Then there's the fact that he posted details of his comments on the Eve forums two days before he remembered what happened. Odd that. |
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Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
98
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:58:00 -
[2141] - Quote
Apollo-Moor wrote:You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
And though I don't agree with him much of the time, and thus voted for someone else, he does that job quite well. Further, though I very much doubt 10k *people* actually voted for him (I doubt that many even voted), there's obviously quite a few people who DO agree with the things he pushes for in the game. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
419
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:59:00 -
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Kievan Arakyd wrote:A few comments form around the gaming world: Quote:This game's player base is the pit of the human cesspool. Quote:Not that I'm surprised. Spreadsheets Online: Sociopaths in Space. It's a moral vaccum, basically 4chan with space-ships. Its primary purpose should be to tie up all the detritus of MMO-playing Internet into one condensed wasteland, the hell away from the games played by decent human beings. Quote:This is exact type of person EVE deserves as CSM chairman. No wonder CCP isn't going to ban him and also no wonder game doesn't progress anywhere - it's already perfect as arena for cyber-bullying sociopaths. Quote:With each passing news story on Eve Online, I am LESS interested in trying the game. great publicity there.
The best of it is though, the publicity has happened because of the screaming enemies of The Mittani making a public exhibition of the game. These types fo things happen everywhere and in every walk of life, but they only become an issue when some buthurt small minded person picks it up and runs with it.
Guess what? No one is squeeky clean, if we look closely enough we see the cracks and the ugly truth beneath the veneer of humanity. You, yes YOU, every one of you reading this has thought or said or done things that someone somewhere thinks is abhorant and disgusting. What defines a community is whether it is quietly pointed out, dealt with and apologised for, or whether we allow our hatred to beat up the object of our hate, burn it and kick it to death and drag it though the streets shouting about it.
Take a look at what you have all done here, are you proud? You shouldnt be, you should be ashamed of dragging your community around the streets with a burning tyre around its bloody neck, paraded for the rest of the gaming world to see and hate you for. Because it isnt now Th eMittani they hate, it is this community, your community. Well done. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Anderron Shi
1st MC
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:59:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance.
I didn't know you were such a roleplayer!
Get some! |
Prince Kobol
366
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Posted - 2012.03.27 15:59:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Doddy wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: On top of that you have the following message,
[i]92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, I return from the land of ice, snow, and stupid media hit pieces. While I'm in transit back to Madison, please follow Vile Rat's lead on the political fallout. This is not a 2007 threadnaught and I will never abandon you, so act like men. Jita will still burn, no matter what.
What exactly is wrong with the message? Nothing, other then it would suggest that his apology is nothing more then spin and not in the least bit sincere. In what way? Do you disagree the piece was stupid, or that it was in the media? Does him telling goons not to threadnaught in his support somehow mean he takes back is apology? Does him saying he wont quit game mean he has taken back is apology? Or is it the fact hedares to congratulate his alliance somehow have something to do with it. Did this ice miner own these NC. titans or something?
Whether I agree the stories that have been reported is stupid or not has no relevance. The fact is the story has been reported and that after what should of been a great Event for CCP from a media point of view, is now ironically a clusterfuck lol.
When you say stupid media hit - people will assume that he thinks the stories are stupid and he doesn't think he has done anything wrong.
Then he tells everybody to follow Vile's Rat lead which then makes you think that everything he has said since is nothing more then spin in order to get out of the situation he finds himself in.
What I would worry about more is the fact that some goons appear to be leaking information out there. |
Skogen Gump
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:00:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Wow...this conversation has gotten way off-topic while I was sleeping. Reminder time? What this controversy is:
- Whether or not a person in a position of power suggesting people break game rules (without breaking any himself in the process) is acceptable conduct
- Whether or not a person who said they'd resign from said position of power actually resigns
- Failscading into irrelevant drivel about suicide, bad press, faux legalese, TItans, carebears, and some guy who spends $345 a month to mine ice.
Consider that before you click the POST button on your next bit of "OMG MITTANI R MAEK ATTEMPTD MERDER" text-diarrrhea.
You're missing a fundamental thing here about what this is:
He incited harassment of someone to the end that said harassment might cause suicide.
It's there in black and white; whether illegal or not - it is immoral, heinous and against the TOS and quite frankly a sad kick in the face to CCP after all the goodwill of the Fanfest.
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ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
473
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:00:00 -
[2146] - Quote
Standard ex-laywer "I dun goofed" response. Nice to see a crack in the flawless Mittani facade, though
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
blackpatch
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:01:00 -
[2147] - Quote
yo whats up
i wanted to mention that jade constantine has pretty much the worst avatar i've ever seen, it looks like a disfigured anime waifu with a couple of black eyes
well, seeya |
Aldarica
Spinal Discipline
14
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:02:00 -
[2148] - Quote
Interesting how reasonable calls for Mittens to act like a grown man (for a change), take responsibility for his actions and honorably resign in order to lessen pressure from bad publicity CCP and EVE are right now receiveing worldwide is regarded by Goons like someone wants to "hurt" them or their leader. Even if that might be true in case of some posters here, it's not really important - EVE is. Point is that this game, or more precisely our playerbase, already has ****** reputation in general gaming public, as it's being too often recognized as place of highest possible concentration of psychopats and all sorts of human filth. Leaving Mittens unscratched certainly won't help CCP to change this black picture. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
635
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:02:00 -
[2149] - Quote
Skogen Gump wrote:It's there in black and white; whether illegal or not - it is immoral, heinous and against the TOS and quite frankly a sad kick in the face to CCP after all the goodwill of the Fanfest.
The TOS does not apply to fanfest / outside the game. Did you even read the TOS? Let me answer that for you. No, you didn't. |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
90
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:03:00 -
[2150] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
Not for you to go out in a drunked state and harass people in "live" fashion. You've made a mistake and it's good that you've admitted to your error.
But you have not accepted the consequences of your action which will complete your raod to redemption that you are supposedly seeking.
Simply.. Step down.. Did you vote for him?
Does that matter? Cause no I didn't..
Don't test me goon. |
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Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
482
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:04:00 -
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Rocky McMiner wrote:My question is, if it was not intended to say these things, why have the convo with the miner saved? may I interest you in my very own mittani thread?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87117&find=unread
all "these things" were already said and posted 5 months ago
the mittani's role in the scam itself was extremely limited (he was sent the protection money) and the evemail conversation was stored/published by the goon who did all the legwork back in October/November. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
635
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:05:00 -
[2152] - Quote
Apollo-Moor wrote:Karadion wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
Not for you to go out in a drunked state and harass people in "live" fashion. You've made a mistake and it's good that you've admitted to your error.
But you have not accepted the consequences of your action which will complete your raod to redemption that you are supposedly seeking.
Simply.. Step down.. Did you vote for him? Does that matter? Cause no I didn't.. Don't test me goon. So you're projecting on what those people want including myself. At least 6000 of those voters wanted Mittani to represent them. We've already done our exit poll which we've counted how many have given their vote. 3 of my votes are for Mittani. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
683
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:10:00 -
[2153] - Quote
Post. |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
90
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:10:00 -
[2154] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:Karadion wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
Not for you to go out in a drunked state and harass people in "live" fashion. You've made a mistake and it's good that you've admitted to your error.
But you have not accepted the consequences of your action which will complete your raod to redemption that you are supposedly seeking.
Simply.. Step down.. Did you vote for him? Does that matter? Cause no I didn't.. Don't test me goon. So you're projecting on what those people want including myself. At least 6000 of those voters wanted Mittani to represent them. We've already done our exit poll which we've counted how many have given their vote. 3 of my votes are for Mittani.
I'm not projecting anything. I said if the guy was really accepting any type of redemption he would step down. He's spent more than enough time in CSM. Had his gaming celebrity fun and all but dude just messed up. It's okay, it happens but just because it happens doesn't mean he's cool..
Weather he's in or not doesn't really effect my day to day gameplay, it's other peoples concious that have to deal with it. Even if they choose to sale themselves out 3 times over.. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:11:00 -
[2155] - Quote
Apollo-Moor wrote:Karadion wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
Not for you to go out in a drunked state and harass people in "live" fashion. You've made a mistake and it's good that you've admitted to your error.
But you have not accepted the consequences of your action which will complete your raod to redemption that you are supposedly seeking.
Simply.. Step down.. Did you vote for him? Does that matter? Cause no I didn't.. Don't test me goon.
Watch out, we've got a badass over here. |
Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:11:00 -
[2156] - Quote
EnderCapitalG wrote:Post.
Confirming that this is a post. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
125
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:12:00 -
[2157] - Quote
Kallynda Nai wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:Post. Confirming that this is a post.
Confirming the confirmation of a post is a post. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
636
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:12:00 -
[2158] - Quote
Apollo-Moor wrote:Karadion wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:Does that matter? Cause no I didn't..
Don't test me goon. So you're projecting on what those people want including myself. At least 6000 of those voters wanted Mittani to represent them. We've already done our exit poll which we've counted how many have given their vote. 3 of my votes are for Mittani. I'm not projecting anything. I said if the guy was really accepting any type of redemption he would step down. He's spent more than enough time in CSM. Had his gaming celebrity fun and all but dude just messed up. It's okay, it happens but just because it happens doesn't mean he's cool.. Weather he's in or not doesn't really effect my day to day gameplay, it's other peoples concious that have to deal with it. Even if they choose to sale themselves out 3 times over.. Really?
Quote:People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game. I certainly did and this does not change my vote. Projecting. |
Magnus Orin
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
95
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:13:00 -
[2159] - Quote
Would demanding Seppuku at this point be too ironic? |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
90
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:13:00 -
[2160] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:Karadion wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:You should step down. You have viloated the position you were granted as CSM. People choose you to speak for what the things they wanted in game.
Not for you to go out in a drunked state and harass people in "live" fashion. You've made a mistake and it's good that you've admitted to your error.
But you have not accepted the consequences of your action which will complete your raod to redemption that you are supposedly seeking.
Simply.. Step down.. Did you vote for him? Does that matter? Cause no I didn't.. Don't test me goon. What happens if he does? Yeah, I want to know that too!
Can't ask someone to step down thats not in a position. So I guess some of the post of him leaving would stop. I don't know what you quoters are trying to get from me.
Being yourselves will give you the answer you need.. I don't have to time to find your answers for you.. |
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