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Xander Riggs The Scope Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:26:00 - [31] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. I was as disgusted about the stuff he said as you. Don't get me wrong about that, but i think that justice has been served. You may or may not agree on this. There is no need to go any further imo. It's not a "stuff"! It is a CRIME! A real one! Would you let it go if the person committed suicide? Where is your sense of justice? your sense of basic decency? CCP did not do the right thing. A 30-day ban is hardly a punishment. A real crime was committed, they should have notified the police immediately! Good thing for Gianturco that I cannot read Icelandic, but I'm trying to find the General Prosecutor's contact, I will bring this to their attention. I would let it go. Once someone actively interjects their personal life into the public sector, it's fair game. If someone goes and tells the world that he was born with four *********, he'd better expect to be called quad-core for the rest of his days. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE."
Mass Attack Lightspeed Ship Yards 9	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:26:00 - [32] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. I was as disgusted about the stuff he said as you. Don't get me wrong about that, but i think that justice has been served. You may or may not agree on this. There is no need to go any further imo. It's not a "stuff"! It is a CRIME! A real one! Would you let it go if the person committed suicide? Where is your sense of justice? your sense of basic decency? CCP did not do the right thing. A 30-day ban is hardly a punishment. A real crime was committed, they should have notified the police immediately! Good thing for Gianturco that I cannot read Icelandic, but I'm trying to find the General Prosecutor's contact, I will bring this to their attention. See previous post. If you are not just blowing smoke contact the state in which he resides. As you keep stating it was an actual crime, iceland isn't going to come and pick him up and obviously CCP just wants to put a bandaid on this and hope it goes away.
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:27:00 - [33] - Quote "Guys, its TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE to extend EVE grudges to real life." ~attempts to get a nerd extradited and tried in criminal court over an off-color joke~
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:29:00 - [34] - Quote ~directs IRL threats at a person rather than an EVE character, asserts moral high-ground~
Frederick Sanger GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:29:00 - [35] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. I don't think you know how the legal system works.
Kehro Urgus 255	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:29:00 - [36] - Quote Quote: Good thing for Gianturco that I cannot read Icelandic, but I'm trying to find the General Prosecutor's contact, I will bring this to their attention. You know what you find in a sandbox? Sand and cat poo.
Mass Attack Lightspeed Ship Yards 9	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:30:00 - [37] - Quote ~~~~~ goes crazy with tildes ~~~~~~ am I doing it right ?
Muestereate Two Geezers in Space 34	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:31:00 - [38] - Quote Extradite him, CCP has a duty to not cover up crime, they must inform the proper authorities and begin extradition immediately before he goes underground.
Aylleen Die Hard Carebears 4	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:31:00 - [39] - Quote Mass Attack wrote: Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. I was as disgusted about the stuff he said as you. Don't get me wrong about that, but i think that justice has been served. You may or may not agree on this. There is no need to go any further imo. It's not a "stuff"! It is a CRIME! A real one! Would you let it go if the person committed suicide? Where is your sense of justice? your sense of basic decency? CCP did not do the right thing. A 30-day ban is hardly a punishment. A real crime was committed, they should have notified the police immediately! Good thing for Gianturco that I cannot read Icelandic, but I'm trying to find the General Prosecutor's contact, I will bring this to their attention. See previous post. If you are not just blowing smoke contact the state in which he resides. As you keep stating it was an actual crime, iceland isn't going to come and pick him up and obviously CCP just wants to put a bandaid on this and hope it goes away. I will do just that. Although not sure if a crime perpetrated overseas can be tried at a local US court. But if Iceland banishes him from ever entering the country again, at least he will be unable to get drunk again and engage in this foul behavior.
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:32:00 - [40] - Quote Mass Attack wrote: ~~~~~ goes crazy with tildes ~~~~~~ am I doing it right ? No, you only use one at the beginning of the tilde'd part and one at the end, otherwise you'll appear uncultured.
Aylleen Die Hard Carebears 6	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:32:00 - [41] - Quote Frederick Sanger wrote: Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. I don't think you know how the legal system works. Hmmm and I bet you know?
Mass Attack Lightspeed Ship Yards 10	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:33:00 - [42] - Quote Ganthrithor wrote: Mass Attack wrote: ~~~~~ goes crazy with tildes ~~~~~~ am I doing it right ? No, you only use one at the beginning of the tilde'd part and one at the end, otherwise you'll appear uncultured. I appreciate your constructive feedback and will take this into consideration during all future posting endeavors.
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:34:00 - [43] - Quote Aylleen wrote: But if Iceland banishes him from ever entering the country again, at least he will be unable to get drunk again Did we reinstate prohibition while I was away?
Mistress Lilu Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 80	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:34:00 - [44] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Nothing like alcohol to expose one's own true self. It is just sad that a person trusted by the community to a position of leadership betrays that trust engaging in downright questionable - if not criminal - behavior. I urge CCP to ban Alex Gianturco from EVE Online FOREVER. A 30-day ban? Really, CCP? A person engages in criminal behavior, and a 30-day ban is the punishment? Where is your moral compass, Hilmar? What if the victim was YOUR daughter? How would you answer that? Once again, CCP stumbles from the righteous road because it lacks a moral compass. Only this time there is no grey scales, a real crime has been committed, and both CCP and Alex Gianturco must answer it accordingly. To keep things in perspective, I just Googled Iceland's Penal Code, and I found this: Quote: Art. 17 A penalty shall be ordered although an offence has been committed under the heavy influence of alcohol or other drugs. A penalty shall, however, not be ordered if the offender was completely unconscious, unless he or she knew in advance, or had full reason to expect, that the offence would be committed under such influence or that the offence would follow from this his/her condition Art. 214 In case a person be conducive to another personGÇÖ;s committing suicide he/she shall be subject to [imprisonment for up to 1 year] 1) or fines. In case this be done for a selfish purpose the penalty shall be imprisonment for up to 3 years. Art. 229 Anyone officially disclosing the private affairs of another without sufficient reasons being at hand to justify the act shall be subject to fines or [imprisonment] 1) for up to 1 year Art. 233 Anyone threatening to commit a punishable act, the threat being apt to arousing fear with another for his/her life, health or welfare or that of others shall be subject to fines ?1) or imprisonment for up to 2 years. A case can be made at Iceland Justice System against Alex Gianturco on account of: a. Gianturco publicly disclosed a personal letter containing sensitive and private information without any sufficient reason. He premeditated the act. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 229 mentione above. b. Gianturco threatened the life of another person by asking the audience to find him and harass him until he killed himself. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 233 mentioned above. If the person actually committed suicide, he would be also indicted on the Art 229. Not much can be said when the legal norm is made clear. I pray that CCP will do the right thing by banning Gianturco from EVE Online, and denounce him to Iceland's General Prosecutor. After all, EVE should be about having fun, not about committing crimes. I endorse this statement. perma ban mitardi.
Aylleen Die Hard Carebears 6	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:34:00 - [45] - Quote Ganthrithor wrote: ~directs IRL threats at a person rather than an EVE character, asserts moral high-ground~ Indeed. That hat perfectly fits The Mittani.
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:36:00 - [46] - Quote This just in: ICC convicts mittani on crimes against humanity charges, sentences him to never getting drunk again.
Win Sui Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 47	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:37:00 - [47] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Sverige Pahis wrote: Thank you for the unneeded reminder that having google doesn't make you versed in a country's law Oh really? My own country has the same laws. If Gianturco did that here I would personally arrest and bring him to a police station, an action that my country's CONSTITUTION condones. Your comment just demonstrates the kind of person you really are. Please shut up, you are bringing shame on yourself. -- Die Hard Carebears You're hilarious.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3831	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:37:00 - [48] - Quote We should just focus on Tenal, stop posting for a while and let the pubbie hivemind inoculate for a while. We'll come back to accusations of war crimes, Al Qaeda connections and other stuff for sure. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Chocko Klimsaa GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:38:00 - [49] - Quote Does University of Phoenix offer a Juris Doctrate?
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:38:00 - [50] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Ganthrithor wrote: ~directs IRL threats at a person rather than an EVE character, asserts moral high-ground~ Indeed. That hat perfectly fits The Mittani. I see what you did there.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3831	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:39:00 - [51] - Quote Chocko Klimsaa wrote: Does University of Phoenix offer a Juris Doctrate? To be fair these days you can pretty much get a JD from a box of Cracker Jacks. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
RougeOperator Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 522	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:39:00 - [52] - Quote Ganthrithor wrote: ~directs IRL threats at a person rather than an EVE character, asserts moral high-ground~ So your talking about Alex? Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish into thin air.
Mass Attack Lightspeed Ship Yards 10	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:39:00 - [53] - Quote Aylleen wrote: I will do just that. Although not sure if a crime perpetrated overseas can be tried at a local US court. But if Iceland banishes him from ever entering the country again, at least he will be unable to get drunk again and engage in this foul behavior. I'm no big city lawyer (fiddles with suspenders to make point), but I watch a lot of TV. So of course I know what I'm talking about and not just blowing it out of my ass. I will have to confer with my wife who watches a lot more Judge Judy than I do, but... If this isn't something his home state considers within their pervue, then I think the state where the victim lives probably would. This whole cyber bullying thing is a hot topic right now anyway and a lot of it does not have clear boundaries. Those hacker guys over seas didn't commit their cirmes within the US boarders but they got lit up anyway. This isn't the same thing but you can obviously see where the principles of where the crime originated being less important than where the victim is located come into play. let me further my completely unbacked speculation further with a quick internet search... er never mind. my one layer investigation down that road seems to reveal that the law is built for protecting children (under 18) so obviously this now gets blown into an age discrimination thing and I'm sure al sharpton, the ACLU, southern poverty law center and jesse jackson will get involved and bring us justice.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3831	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:39:00 - [54] - Quote Ganthrithor wrote: Aylleen wrote: Ganthrithor wrote: ~directs IRL threats at a person rather than an EVE character, asserts moral high-ground~ Indeed. That hat perfectly fits The Mittani. I see what you did there. I swear, it's a very strange coincidence - the whole wizard hat thing was premeditated! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 412	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:42:00 - [55] - Quote I propose to ban every person making these terrible, terrible ******* threads for EVER. I'm fairly certain exposing people to these levels of stupid constitutes harassment. --Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK--
Chocko Klimsaa GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:42:00 - [56] - Quote Did Zimmerman act in self defense?
Ganthrithor GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 165	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:43:00 - [57] - Quote Aylleen I have reported your posting to the relevant authorities. I hope to see you tried for crimes against humanity.
Marduk Nibiru Physical Chaos 124	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:45:00 - [58] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Son IamaDerp wrote: Aylleen wrote: Nothing like alcohol to expose one's own true self. It is just sad that a person trusted by the community to a position of leadership betrays that trust engaging in downright questionable - if not criminal - behavior. I urge CCP to ban Alex Gianturco from EVE Online FOREVER. A 30-day ban? Really, CCP? A person engages in criminal behavior, and a 30-day ban is the punishment? Where is your moral compass, Hilmar? What if the victim was YOUR daughter? How would you answer that? Argumentum ad Misercordiam Hardly an appeal to pity! I am not trying to save him. "Do to others as you would have them do to you". That is the context I am referring to. I like to be spanked.
Markus Reese Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION 51	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:46:00 - [59] - Quote I am sure the reason that it is only a 30 day ban is due to the person whom the statements were directed. All things point to he didn't know, wasn't concerned and didn't care. In that case, the aforementioned laws wouldn't be enforceable. A permaban would have most assuredly have happend (IMO) if it actually did cause distress of the aforemented person to whom the comments were directed at.
Miranda Joringer Republic University Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2012.03.29 04:50:00 - [60] - Quote Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Aylleen wrote: Miranda Joringer wrote: Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. I was as disgusted about the stuff he said as you. Don't get me wrong about that, but i think that justice has been served. You may or may not agree on this. There is no need to go any further imo. It's not a "stuff"! It is a CRIME! A real one! Would you let it go if the person committed suicide? Where is your sense of justice? your sense of basic decency? CCP did not do the right thing. A 30-day ban is hardly a punishment. A real crime was committed, they should have notified the police immediately! Good thing for Gianturco that I cannot read Icelandic, but I'm trying to find the General Prosecutor's contact, I will bring this to their attention. I beg to differ on that "crime" part. The person he mentioned is fine, happily playing EvE. I'm not trying to be mean to you, but please dont embarrasse yourself in saying that you will look into that sort of stuff. Its not your place to do such a thing. Its up to the person in question (who is still breathing btw) to make a case about it if he pleases to do so. Im realy only trying to help you. I hope that you will see it that way.

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