There is NOTHING he could have said or done, short of severing his own left hand in penance, that would have satisfied you.

You voluntary give up that aspect of your anonymity when you register yourself for a CSM run. Its a big step for some people and has disuaded them from trying for CSM in the past - but really, you need to be made of pretty stern stuff to run for internet spaceship government.

But he isnt on the CSM right? So no one should be using his real name.

Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go.
CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion.

Nothing like alcohol to expose one's own true self.

It is just sad that a person trusted by the community to a position of leadership betrays that trust engaging in downright questionable - if not criminal - behavior.

I urge CCP to ban Alex Gianturco from EVE Online FOREVER. A 30-day ban? Really, CCP? A person engages in criminal behavior, and a 30-day ban is the punishment? Where is your moral compass, Hilmar? What if the victim was YOUR daughter? How would you answer that?

Once again, CCP stumbles from the righteous road because it lacks a moral compass. Only this time there is no grey scales, a real crime has been committed, and both CCP and Alex Gianturco must answer it accordingly.

To keep things in perspective, I just Googled Iceland's Penal Code, and I found this:


A case can be made at Iceland Justice System against Alex Gianturco on account of:

a. Gianturco publicly disclosed a personal letter containing sensitive and private information without any sufficient reason. He premeditated the act. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 229 mentione above.

b. Gianturco threatened the life of another person by asking the audience to find him and harass him until he killed himself. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 233 mentioned above. If the person actually committed suicide, he would be also indicted on the Art 229.

Not much can be said when the legal norm is made clear. I pray that CCP will do the right thing by banning Gianturco from EVE Online, and denounce him to Iceland's General Prosecutor.

After all, EVE should be about having fun, not about committing crimes.

I did agree with this, "Let it go". My opinion changed after considering the premeditation of the presentation drunkenness not withstanding and....AND....AND Mitten's post-fiaco posts on various forums which indicate that he isn't sorry and that in fact he'll turn this into a boon for goons. It smacks of disingenuous recriminations, "I'm sorry because I got caught", [PeeWee voice] "I'm NOT sorry! Hahaha" and that the apology was merely a calculated action to mitigate any potential repercussions.

All the trolling about his ego, I begin to believe are actually true. A person such as this will do whatever to cover his own ass going so far as to post public apologies while privately never actually considering that what he did was wrong and that if dire consequences resulted in bodily harm to someone else, self inflicted or not, it would be their "own damned fault". That pretty much meets the definition of sociopathic.

Nothing like alcohol to expose one's own true self.

It is just sad that a person trusted by the community to a position of leadership betrays that trust engaging in downright questionable - if not criminal - behavior.

I urge CCP to ban Alex Gianturco from EVE Online FOREVER. A 30-day ban? Really, CCP? A person engages in criminal behavior, and a 30-day ban is the punishment? Where is your moral compass, Hilmar? What if the victim was YOUR daughter? How would you answer that?

Once again, CCP stumbles from the righteous road because it lacks a moral compass. Only this time there is no grey scales, a real crime has been committed, and both CCP and Alex Gianturco must answer it accordingly.

To keep things in perspective, I just Googled Iceland's Penal Code, and I found this:


A case can be made at Iceland Justice System against Alex Gianturco on account of:

a. Gianturco publicly disclosed a personal letter containing sensitive and private information without any sufficient reason. He premeditated the act. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 229 mentione above.

b. Gianturco threatened the life of another person by asking the audience to find him and harass him until he killed himself. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 233 mentioned above. If the person actually committed suicide, he would be also indicted on the Art 229.

Not much can be said when the legal norm is made clear. I pray that CCP will do the right thing by banning Gianturco from EVE Online, and denounce him to Iceland's General Prosecutor.

After all, EVE should be about having fun, not about committing crimes.

He served on the CSM. He made himself a public figure. You never stop being a public figure after that.

Its what he signed up for.

Fortunately, we are just about at that tipping point where people that continue to milk this thing for all it's worth are going to start annoying the community in general... to the point where it becomes quite apparent what an ass they are making of themselves.

Hell no, he should have been banned indefinitely. Don't you think hangmen at the gallows would say sorry if they thought it would get them off the block?

I think for many this is a chance to see if goons can take it as well as they dish it out.

I dont see anyone using two step or Darius III's real name

You do realize Mittens has numerous accounts, and access to enough ISK to buy himself another character whenever he pleases right?

Ban 'The Mittani' and he will be just as infamous on a different character.

I dont see anyone using two step or Darius III's real name

He's organized his goons to throw a massive fit in Jita now, so that does undermine him a bit too.

Clearly, you don't know their history.

Think i even heard Mittani briefly mention something about possibly working on their public image if anti-goon sentiment continues to rise, in that state of the Goonion thing.

Heya Kidd.

You might check some of those sources again before changing your mind about the apology. In every source I've seen the one constant out of this is his stance that all else aside his apology to The Wis was sincere.

Granted, there may be things that have surfaced I haven't seen yet (I have to sleep sometime).

He may be a jerk, he may be mouthy, he may manipulate, he may be irritated at how things transpired, but he has never said he seriously wanted the man to actually come to harm... and has maintained that stance even when his fellow goons told him he was a wuss for apologizing in the first place.

Granted I didn't listen all that closely, but I don't recall hearing anything like this. Got a timestamp?

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